Re: EMASS Girls Hockey 2011-2012
posted at 3/2/2012 1:32 PM EST
In Response to Re: EMASS Girls Hockey 2011-2012
[QUOTE]Ouch this is a sticky one, since it could also be used for setting precedents in related cases. When does cheering for your team tilt over the edge to taunting the other team. I think we can all agree that in the most serious cases it is clear when that line is crossed, but there is a world of grey in between. Witness the whole Super Bowl fiasco when the runner raised his arm on the way to scoring. There was NO concensus about that one, but the on field call stood, which affected the final outcome. In this case, the only fault I can obviously see is that as soon as the pointer was observed that the person using it needed to either have the item confiscated (for later return after the game) or be immediately ejected, and not to wait until it became a bigger issue like it seems to become. Punishing the team for an action of an adult in the stands is touchy. What if the team he is allegedly supporting (due to where he lives) is not the team he wants to win. grudge against the coach for example. Just read the papers these days about how many coaches are leaving jobs where the only real issue that can be discerned is clashes with some parents. So now the MIAA would need to question motive as well as action. Someone on the team or the coaching staff pulls a stunt like that, and boom, out of there. Someone in the stands? Disgruntled student who got cut from the team? Wanting to "punish" those who made it instead of them. Slippery slope. So while it seems a little wishy washy at some levels, I have to agree with the MIAA on this point, there is no game action to be done.
Posted by PetefromNorthofBoston[/QUOTE]
Great Point.. touchy yes, I see what you mean. Then the only real fair thing to do, if you side with both situations is to fully replay the game. At minimum the MIAA can make that call.
However, I feel its cut and dry, and as was the case with the football call, the rule states if you taunt and are thrown out, you forfeit the next game (player, coach, or spectator, - its written that way). In the football case, they enforced the rule, didn't ignore it. Since this is the tournament, if they can't forfeit the game played already, they forfeit their spot in the tournament for the next game. Or maybe at minimum suffer a loss or 2 to start the season 2012-13. But don't just brush it off, and figure it goes away, as does everything with the MIAA. We as parents, players and coach's need to make them more accountable to the rules they create, enforcement is hardly there and when it is, its usually rediculous.
The bottom line, whether he did it as revenge, or just to give W/L an advantage doesn't really play in here. He did it, they saw it, they removed him from the rink. Its an infraction that needs to be dealt with. At least have a hearing on it.
And not for nothing, as I stated before, the parents, teachers, coach's, AD's cause many things to happen to a team that stinks for the girls who did nothing. Its part of life, in a team sport. Remember when the teacher would take away recess for the entire class because one kid got in trouble? Why would this be different. It is horrible, I think there are many girls in WL that don't deserve it, but I also think the girls on Watertown/Melrose didn't deserve to have 2 hard fought wins taken away cause someone didn't check a report card (allegedly). Its a rule, rules are to be followed according to the MIAA and since they don't bend, they need to inforce what is written, not just say "he was removed and there's nothing we can do".
Did anyone hear the W/L guy say its the "goalie's fault cause she should have had her head up not down".. I mean really, what is wrong with that? Why not just say, hey, we'll replay it, we all want it. The W/L superintendant says "i think its aweful and I'm looking into criminal charges, but the win should stand". Why keep insulting the situation?
Just replay the game and everyone's happy right..... do the right thing here, that's all Medway is asking, and thats a fair request.