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#1 Defense NE Patriots

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    The last bastion of a fool; Can't take me on with football talk dumbkoff, so try the age and religion bashing defense. You're a joke around here.

    I keep telling you dumbkoff, the "voices" aren't posters on the board, just like your fake accounts aren't.

     

    There isn't a single real person here who can stand you troll.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    I'm not HW...and you should go drink some warm milk and get ready for bed...you are becoming hysterical....attacking with ad hominum attacks because your football knowledge is lacking..sad

     
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    Right, because when injuries happen and teams don't have the quality depth to to use as replacements it doesn't matter. If you want to have a discussion about the topic fine. If you are just going to be a d*ck then just don't respond. You are suppossedly 60+ years old stop acting like your 12.

     

     

     

     

     



    If you expect to be treated like a person making mature and sensible points, you should try making a mature and sensible point.

     

     

     

     

     

    I do find it humerous that somebody responds to sarcasm by calling someone a d*ick and a 12 year old. I would offer that the one escalating simple sarcasm into name calling is the one who needs to grow up. LMAO (after all, I didn't actually use the S-word!)

    I don't know how to explain to you that the backups aren't as important as the starters or that no team has good enough backups to generally fill the void left by the loss of a quality starter. If you don't get that, then you never will get anything.

     

     

     

     



     I really don't care what you think of me or how you percieve me or if you ever respond to me. 

     

     

     



    Actually Ghost, I wouldn't belittle YOU. As far as I can tell, you're a good guy and a good fan.

     

    I will definitely belittle your characterizing the backup roster spots or late round draft picks as being important in the big picture though. That's just not so.

     



    That is fine we can agree to disagree on that point. My point is the NFL season is a battle against attrition where depth matters. I think the disconnect between our viewpoints is that I think guys like Cannon, Fletcher, Edelman, Bolden, Thompkins, Buchanan etc... are important to be able to survive that attrition.

     
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    I'm going to go out on a limb here and say, health provided, this defense could finish the season as the top ranked defense in the NFL.

    Major factors; Adrian Wilson, Tommy Kelly, Talib, Armond Armstead, Collins and a couple others draftees who will make the squad, as well as the jump made by the second year players.  

    We will jump from 15th in sacks, where we've ranked for a while up into the top 3 thanks to additions at DT.  

    Linebacker has never been this deep and the defensive backfield has always intercepted the ball regardless how "bad" this defense was perceived to be.

    High expectations? Yeah, but history is on our side.



    Unless Seattle loses several starters on their D your prediction doesn't stand a chance in hell.

    It does look like a much better D but even on that I'd wait and see what happens when they are playing a decent offense better than the 3 they've played so far.

     
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    Unless Seattle loses several starters on their D your prediction doesn't stand a chance in hell.

    It does look like a much better D but even on that I'd wait and see what happens when they are playing a decent offense better than the 3 they've played so far.



    If they end up ranked #2 then our #1 ranked offense by season's end will offset the difference, Pats over Seahawks in the Superbowl.  I can live with being wrong.

     
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    Currently ranked #2 in the NFL in points per game allowed and 3rd in total points allowed.

    Believe that if we could get some help from the offense in the way of more consistency, converting first downs, staying on the field with time of possession, that our sacks would be higher, we'd have more INTs and forced fumbles and that we'd likely be ranked #1.

    Just saying...

     

     
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    Currently ranked #2 in the NFL in points per game allowed and 3rd in total points allowed.

    Believe that if we could get some help from the offense in the way of more consistency, converting first downs, staying on the field with time of possession, that our sacks would be higher, we'd have more INTs and forced fumbles and that we'd likely be ranked #1.

    Just saying...

     



    so far so good. havent played but one good offense, but numbers are numbers. They have exceeded my expectations so far. I wouldnt get too excited as the Browns are also a top D. Means nothing if your GM gutted your whole offense...  Lets see where we rank after week 12. Right now it looks like that game would set us back to # 10....lol

     
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    so far so good. havent played but one good offense, but numbers are numbers. They have exceeded my expectations so far. I wouldnt get too excited as the Browns are also a top D. Means nothing if your GM gutted your whole offense...  Lets see where we rank after week 12. Right now it looks like that game would set us back to # 10....lol

    So Atlanta was good prior to us playing them but aren't after we beat them... ok?

    This is the NFL, there are no easy games.  

     
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    so far so good. havent played but one good offense, but numbers are numbers. They have exceeded my expectations so far. I wouldnt get too excited as the Browns are also a top D. Means nothing if your GM gutted your whole offense...  Lets see where we rank after week 12. Right now it looks like that game would set us back to # 10....lol

     

     

    So Atlanta was good prior to us playing them but aren't after we beat them... ok?

    This is the NFL, there are no easy games.  




    Listen man, Theres a lot of posters here. Go back and read what I said about Atlanta. I said Cincy would be the real test. Atlanta was one dimensional and we still couldnt stop one guy in Tony G. I gave them credit, but Atlanta S*x if you havent noticed.

     
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    I will wait to see their performance against NOS before getting overly up or down about the Pats D.

     
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    Currently ranked #2 in the NFL in points per game allowed and 3rd in total points allowed.

    Believe that if we could get some help from the offense in the way of more consistency, converting first downs, staying on the field with time of possession, that our sacks would be higher, we'd have more INTs and forced fumbles and that we'd likely be ranked #1.

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    so far so good. havent played but one good offense, but numbers are numbers. They have exceeded my expectations so far. I wouldnt get too excited as the Browns are also a top D. Means nothing if your GM gutted your whole offense...  Lets see where we rank after week 12. Right now it looks like that game would set us back to # 10....lol

     

     



    "gutted our WHOLE offense"

     

    This is the second line from you in 48 hours which is incorrect. You also said "Edelman dropped a 'fade' route in the end zone" yesterday.

    The board has to watch Shizzles for his lies.




    Do you care to refure my facts or are you just gonna try and discredit me without proof in hopes people will think YOU are right? Maybe 2 years ago. Now everyone know you are crazy.

    Yes Edleman dropped a pass in the endzone. When you get 2 hands on it and try to trap it to your hip and it falls to the ground, yes that is a drop. If you choose to say it was a pass defensed by pac man, so be it. I dont see how it matters either way. Whats your point again?

    Welker, Lloyd, Woodhead, Gronk, Hernandez. branch not playing.He is throwing to ALL NEW PEOPLE.  Thats practically the whole offense outside of Edleman who wasnt counted on last year expect for week 1 when they thought he could replace wes. He has done a fine job but he is no wes welker.

     
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    The #1 D allowed Andy Dalton to drive 93 yards for a TD.

    That includes allowing a 1stD on a 3rd and 15 from the Bengals 2.

    It took Dalton long enough to realize that its better to throw to your secondary and tertiary targets covered by Kyle Arrington, rather than force the ball to AJ Green (covered by Talib). I expect Brees to pick on Arrington this Sunday.

     

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    harv , whats up?? go easy , if you've been watching sports for 30 years you know prosperity doesn't last for ever , you need to humble yourself a little!!

     
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    Good lord this place is troll central.

    Geno Smith is certainly an upgrade over Sanchez. Beyond a shadow of doubt. 

    Look at each team's records in the second halves of the last 3 seasons, though.

    Jets 11-13

    Patriots 27-1

    First half of the season:

    Jets 14-11

    Patriots 16-8

    Pretty clear which team gets better as the year goes along, particularly on offense, where the Patriots have started out fairly slow 2 of those years (came out swinging in 2011, and kept it going after that), and finished as the best offense in the league those years.

    With the young receiving corps, any sensible fan would have known that these growing pains were coming. The writing was on the wall. However, I'm confident that by week 9 or 10, this will be a well oiled machine, particularly with Gronk getting some game action.

    The Jets? Who knows. Geno has been very Jekyll and Hyde-ish. O TD's and 3 INT's one week, 3 TD's and 0 INT's the next. Those are the growing pains you have to expect out of a rookie.

    I've been one to defend Brady over the years whenever the offense flounders, but I'm not defending him right now. He's missing wide open receivers. Are they where he expects them to be? Maybe not, but they're open, and he needs to hit them. Dobson and Thompkins have the ability to get open, more than any other young receivers in New England that I've seen since Deion Branch. Edelman is working the slot really well, and once Amendola comes back and Gronk gets in his groove, and the RB's get healthy, this offense will be a great ball control offense who will be able to put up some points.

     
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    The #1 D allowed Andy Dalton to drive 93 yards for a TD.

    That includes allowing a 1stD on a 3rd and 15 from the Bengals 2.

    It took Dalton long enough to realize that its better to throw to your secondary and tertiary targets covered by Kyle Arrington, rather than force the ball to AJ Green (covered by Talib). I expect Brees to pick on Arrington this Sunday.

     

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    The #1 D was also on the field for 34 minutes after creating 2 turnovers, numerous sacks, etc, because their QB was being not so #1 for 4 qtrs, unable to cross midfield.

     

    Owned and Bludgeoned, CUban Pete.

    You're a moron if you don't think you're not watching, by far and away the best defense in the AFC, if not the league.

    2nd in points allowed in the league with a struggling offense of their own. Case closed on that.

    I haven't checked yet, but they're probably near or at the top in turnovers created again, too, 4th year in a row for that in the AFC.



    I don't think they've forced that many turnovers...I think KC leads the league in that. They've just been outright forcing punts and turnovers on downs.

    If they can keep the Saints below 28 points, I'd feel pretty confident about them moving forward. That Saints offense has torched even the best defenses in the league the last few years.

     
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