#2 Run Blocking Line

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    #2 Run Blocking Line

    Guess who?

    http://www.patspulpit.com/2010/5/16/1474180/on-behalf-of-the-new-england
     
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    We are a very overrated team. 
     
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    I am not sure where or how they come up with that info, but I just dont see it in games.  When I see a real running team it is totally different than our team running.  Guess that is why I am not a pro coach.
     
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    Well, the line may be allowing the RBs to get back to line of scrimmage, but does that mean that holes are created big enough for the RBs to go through for yards gained AFTER reaching the line of scrimmage? Or is it just because of an infererior RB corp when it comes to running the ball?
     
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    I look at it like this... The line has done a decent job as a group but individually there is room to improve. Mankins is a stud and run blocks and pass protects equally well. Neal is the same as long as he is healthy, I just hope we can replace him with a stud or he has one more good year left in him because Koppen is a weak link and needs stud OG's to make up for his troubles against NT's and strong DT's. Light is ok but Vollmer makes the Line tougher then the question is is Light able to play at RT if we keep him over Kaczur or does Vollmer play RT for a year and you let Light finish out his contract at LT?
    The RB's are the issue overall. I don't count Faulk in the group because he is a specialist so he should do ok with all the screens etc. but we are going to have to get more out of the Maroney/Taylor/Morris etall group.  
     
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    russ... very well put...basicly what I was fumbling around to say.
     
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    Well, I have to do a recant. 

    http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?archive=false&conference=null&role=TM&offensiveStatisticCategory=OFFENSIVE_LINE&defensiveStatisticCategory=null&season=2009&seasonType=REG&tabSeq=2&qualified=true&Submit=Go

    We're number three according to the NFL.  My guess is that if the OL is ranked so high our RBs have got to down right stink.  This makes me wonder even more why we didn't pick one up during the draft.  But we would have missed out on something else if the Pats had done that.

    Some stats that may surprise.  The Pats were #10 in rushing attempts last year.  #12 in total rushing yards.  Click on the catagories and have some fun. 

     
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    Our line was never built for smash mouth between the tackles running.  We are built to pull to get out on screen passes.  BB prefers the more athletic OLs to the massive straight line blockers.  When we had a power back like Dillion we were able to run straight ahead but Maroney being the dancer that he is doesn't hit the holes that are there quick enough and those holes quickly close.  So, I think it is a combination of smaller OL types that can't dominate at the point of attack against teams with big DLs like BAL, NYG, etc and not having a powerful back that can make his own holes or widen existing holes.

    Taylor/Morris when healthy can fight for the tough yard but they will both go down this season as always so we will feature a lot of Faulk on screens.  Hopefully Hernandez will be used a lot as an H back on sweeps and out of the backfield to at least keep the defense honest. 
     
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    In Response to Re: #2 Run Blocking Line : I am as hard as anyone on Maroney, but to be fair, I really feel it's the one dimensional offense that hurts him.  He does tap dance, yes. If he would just be used as a blocker at times and a pass catcher (and not drop it), he'd be even better. It's the same deal with why the Pats hammer bad Ds and struggle against good ones, AND why fans are focusing on the O LIne all the time. Balance. D's have been doubling Moss and selling out on the pass rush since SB 42. It's their only chance. This is the same O Line that dominated in 2007, did pretty good in 2008 for Cassel and then had a myriad of injuries (Light , Neal AND Koppen for the first time I can remember) last year. To be fair, you have to take this into account. Health and Scarnecchis'a guidance WITH a balanced offense, makes them and the running game a very strong unit.  It is  a concern (health and age), but I also think it's an overrated issue. Next to BB, Scarnecchia is their best coach. Light is underrated, in my opinion. He uses his savvy experience to offset any talent issues when facing dominant edge rushers.  He was hurt last year. So was Koppen and Neal. That will hammer any O Line. Neal is also very underrated. Again, health for him. I think it;s one of the best O Lines in football when healthy and the offense is clicking. Vollmer is a great move from last year and I wouldn't mind seeing Kazcur get looks at RG in case Neal has a problem.  BB does not want to move Light, which is fine by me. Why move a veteran now? Just show teams you will run it if they sell out on the pass and get back to a 50/50 game call, depending upon match ups and how the game goes.  Teams simply did not respect it by stacking the box in 3rd and short and doubling Moss or even Welker on the 3rd and shorts. It's been 60/40 pass or even in some cases, 70/30.
    Posted by russgriswold


    A lot gets posted about the offense being one dimensional and there is some truth to that perhaps.  You have to think that with no threat at the 3rd WR and TE spots the opposition only had to worry about Moss, who played injuried, Welker and the RB of choice at the time.  With limited weapons you are going to look one dimensional.  With the fixes to TE and WR we should look a bit different this year.  The running game will be what it is until we get some fresh legs in here. 

    It was hard getting a read on the OL last year.  Light and Neal were out.  The good thing was it got Vollmer on the field.  Light is very serviceable.  He is contract friendly as well.  He might be here for a while which is a tab bit of a shame because it blocks Vollmer from that spot.  However, having Vollmer at RT keeps that leaking sieve that's Kaczur off the field.  I don't know if Kaczur ever got a look at playing guard or not.  My thinking is no but it's something to look out for.  The other thing is Kaczur might be the odd man out because the Pats are loaded at guard right now.  I agree with you on Neal being under rated.  I wonder if being injury prone keeps him from recognition.  The only guy that I have a beef with is Koppen.  Everybody started doing that copycat thing with the 3/4 and the next thing you know Koppen is asked to do something that he's not built to do.  I have a hard time shaking off the SB loss against the Giants.  Koppen just looked so lost.  I lost confidence in him after that game and he hasn't seemed right since to me.-
     
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    Our line was never built for smash mouth between the tackles running.  We are built to pull to get out on screen passes.  BB prefers the more athletic OLs to the massive straight line blockers.  When we had a power back like Dillion we were able to run straight ahead but Maroney being the dancer that he is doesn't hit the holes that are there quick enough and those holes quickly close.  So, I think it is a combination of smaller OL types that can't dominate at the point of attack against teams with big DLs like BAL, NYG, etc and not having a powerful back that can make his own holes or widen existing holes. Taylor/Morris when healthy can fight for the tough yard but they will both go down this season as always so we will feature a lot of Faulk on screens.  Hopefully Hernandez will be used a lot as an H back on sweeps and out of the backfield to at least keep the defense honest. 
    Posted by Faucetman


    I know what you're saying here but I don't really see too many screens.  Are we going zone blocking?  I can't ever tell the difference and may explain why Koppen looks lost at times either because he doens't know what to do or somebody else blew an assignment leaving him hanging.

    I'm not going to hold my breath on the H-back thing.  Remember when we drafted Mills?  I never understood that pick and complained about it a bunch.  He was going to be used as an H-back was the reply.  What pick has ever been used as an H-back with any frequency?

    Looking forward to next years draft discussions.  That was truly great.  Especially with all the whining that was going on at the time.  It was an oasis.
     
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