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    I can't think of any season in the Goodell era, where 20 points was regularly a winning point total for an NFL team.

     

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    Well, the O would have had 26 points if we didn't miss the 48 yard FG and then be forced by the D collapse to go for a TD at the last minute instead of kicking a short FG to win.

    Isn't that right? Would 26 points have been enough for you on the road against a bitter rival who is desperate to make the playoffs?

     

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    Yes.  We need to score more than 20 points in any game in this league. It'a an offensive league.

    Why is this so difficult?  I don't think the offense should be off the hook because they can't score more than 20 points barring a pick 6 or STs TD by our D.

     

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    So, SPECIAL TEAMS held us to the 20. Not the offense. We would have conceivably scored 26 and won if he didn't miss that FG.

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    No. We were 1/4 in the red zone without the missed 48 yarder.  A 48 yarder is not a gimme either.

    The D held to 17 and our offense did nothing in the 3rd qtr and into the mid 4th.  That's way too many drives in a row of not moving the sticks in a game where your only behind by 1 score or down by 4.

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    The third quarter consisted of 2 whole possessions which the O had the ball for 10 minutes of it.  How many drops in the ez today to compliment the missed FG?  3????

    Imagine if they didn't.  The D would have given up another 14 with 2 more possessions.

    Wonder why the Pats O is always high in drops and the D is always bottom of the league in every category?

    Need a new GM.  Dented can groceries aint cutting it any more.

    Thank God for TB, growing his own groceries with all that fertilizer.

     
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    I am watching Pitt's offense shred Cincy's D. Pitt's offense sucks. Even Big Ben and Haley's awful relationship can't stop crap Pitt from moving the chains and popping in TDs.

    Offensive era.  It is for everyone except for us, with our lead er Brady under Center.

    Great season for comebacks and late surges, but that won't cut it in the postseason.

    24-0 now thorough 10 minutes of the 1st half. 

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    Are you actually watching that game?  Because the 24 points Pitt has put up has VERY little to do with their O.

    Fumbled punt gave them the ball on the Cinci 1, a 67-yard punt return gave them another TD, and the offense's only actual TD drive saw them start in tremendous field position at the Cinci 47.

    Pittsburgh's tremendous offense has put up a grand total of 136 yards through the first 25 minutes to get those 24 points.  They're really shredding the Bengals D.

     
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    I am watching Pitt's offense shred Cincy's D. Pitt's offense sucks. Even Big Ben and Haley's awful relationship can't stop crap Pitt from moving the chains and popping in TDs.

    Offensive era.  It is for everyone except for us, with our lead er Brady under Center.

    Great season for comebacks and late surges, but that won't cut it in the postseason.

    24-0 now thorough 10 minutes of the 1st half. 

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    Are you actually watching that game?  Because the 24 points Pitt has put up has VERY little to do with their O.

    Fumbled punt gave them the ball on the Cinci 1, a 67-yard punt return gave them another TD, and the offense's only actual TD drive saw them start in tremendous field position at the Cinci 47.

    Pittsburgh's tremendous offense has put up a grand total of 136 yards through the first 25 minutes to get those 24 points.  They're really shredding the Bengals D.

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    Well he has no trouble making statements without seeing the Pats game. Why would you expect anything diferrent about the Steelers game.

     
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    I am watching Pitt's offense shred Cincy's D. Pitt's offense sucks. Even Big Ben and Haley's awful relationship can't stop crap Pitt from moving the chains and popping in TDs.

    Offensive era.  It is for everyone except for us, with our lead er Brady under Center.

    Great season for comebacks and late surges, but that won't cut it in the postseason.

    24-0 now thorough 10 minutes of the 1st half. 

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    Are you actually watching that game?  Because the 24 points Pitt has put up has VERY little to do with their O.

    Fumbled punt gave them the ball on the Cinci 1, a 67-yard punt return gave them another TD, and the offense's only actual TD drive saw them start in tremendous field position at the Cinci 47.

    Pittsburgh's tremendous offense has put up a grand total of 136 yards through the first 25 minutes to get those 24 points.  They're really shredding the Bengals D.

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    Stop using sense and logic!   That can't be tolerated.  And why are you watching the game?   Everyone knows it's the person who doesn't watch the game and lacks a fundamental understanding of its principles is far better equipped to analyze the goings on.

     
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    Looks like this moron doesn't quite grasp the idea of point differential.  Miami gave up about their point avarage today.  Prior to the last drive, Brady had a 100+ rating against a very good defense.  The Dolphins are the 20th ranked offense in points, the Pats D gave up more points to that offense than their average.  Tannehill had a rating of 120.  Three TDs and ZERO picks.  Where were all those "forced turnovers" you were bragging about?  Yep, blame Brady for Tannehill's career day.

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    Some "career" day. Everyone somehow has a career day but those same QBs struggle to get to 17 points against our Ds all day long unless we turn it over on offense or literally don't both the ball an entire qtr with 2 minute drives.

    How convenient.

    Miami's D is not that good either.  Patterson was a big loss for them out from last week.

    Their Safety, Jones, I don't think practiced my all week, but we end up 1/4 in the red zone, giving away field position, momentum.

    Same old story for our underachieving offense, Bustchise.

    Your Jets D is far worse.  Far worse and healthy, too. lmao

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    Did you look up what career day means yet, moron.  I'll help you out, it doesn't mean 300 yards.   But let's look at his day.  67% completion rate, 3 TDs, ZERO picks (where were those forced turnovers you brag about?) 312 yards and a rating of 120+.  

    Wow!  Now that was a career day.

     
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    Ben Roethlisberger is 13/15. He is shredding the D and the run game is running on them, too.

    Yes, I am watching the game and no, I am not counting the punt return TD.  

    I am mocking you idiots who don't think other teams or other games feature teams who move the ball down the field.

    From there, it's about points.  If the point total allowed matches the yards gained, then that is poor D. If it doesn't match, then it isn't.

    Dalton has also not turned it over to hurt his D like Brady has been prone to do to hurt ours, especially in title games.

    Pitt is driving again, with ease.  You're welcome to join the game thread on that one, pinkies.

     

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    Is this another claim that it was Brady's turnovers today that made the D give up 3 passing TDs?  Oh my, what a fool.

     
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    I can't think of any season in the Goodell era, where 20 points was regularly a winning point total for an NFL team.

     

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    Well, the O would have had 26 points if we didn't miss the 48 yard FG and then be forced by the D collapse to go for a TD at the last minute instead of kicking a short FG to win.

    Isn't that right? Would 26 points have been enough for you on the road against a bitter rival who is desperate to make the playoffs?

     

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    Yes.  We need to score more than 20 points in any game in this league. It'a an offensive league.

    Why is this so difficult?  I don't think the offense should be off the hook because they can't score more than 20 points barring a pick 6 or STs TD by our D.

     

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    So, SPECIAL TEAMS held us to the 20. Not the offense. We would have conceivably scored 26 and won if he didn't miss that FG.

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    No. We were 1/4 in the red zone without the missed 48 yarder.  A 48 yarder is not a gimme either.

    The D held to 17 and our offense did nothing in the 3rd qtr and into the mid 4th.  That's way too many drives in a row of not moving the sticks in a game where your only behind by 1 score or down by 4.

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    ^ What does all this gibberish matter?

    If we hit the FG we would have scored 23. If we hit that FG we wouldn't have needed a TD to overcome Miami's lead at the end and could have kicked an easy FG for 26 points.

    Why is it so hard to admit that if the FG wasn't missed we would have very likely scored 26 points instead of 20?

    Is it impossible for you to blame anybody other than Brady (or the O) for a loss?

     

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    I agree. It would have been nice if he hadn't missed a makeable kick on the road.  I am just tired of looking at these long, long stretches of the game where the offense is abysmal in general while the D is doing its job.

     

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    TD, TD, FG, punt, TD in the last 5 possessions is doing it's job?  You do know they're not supposed to let them score 24 points on the last 5 drives, right?

    Hmmmm... maybe you don't?  Maybe you just don't know better.  Maybe you actually have the O and D confused.

    The O is the one that scores most (not all) of the points.

    The D can also score points but must prevent the other team from scoring more, to win.

    Got it?

    What's the average score per team in the Nfl, including offensive, defensive and ST scores?  Do I have to remind you, again?

     
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    Looks like this moron doesn't quite grasp the idea of point differential.  Miami gave up about their point avarage today.  Prior to the last drive, Brady had a 100+ rating against a very good defense.  The Dolphins are the 20th ranked offense in points, the Pats D gave up more points to that offense than their average.  Tannehill had a rating of 120.  Three TDs and ZERO picks.  Where were all those "forced turnovers" you were bragging about?  Yep, blame Brady for Tannehill's career day.

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    Some "career" day. Everyone somehow has a career day but those same QBs struggle to get to 17 points against our Ds all day long unless we turn it over on offense or literally don't both the ball an entire qtr with 2 minute drives.

    How convenient.

    Miami's D is not that good either.  Patterson was a big loss for them out from last week.

    Their Safety, Jones, I don't think practiced my all week, but we end up 1/4 in the red zone, giving away field position, momentum.

    Same old story for our underachieving offense, Bustchise.

    Your Jets D is far worse.  Far worse and healthy, too. lmao

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    Did you look up what career day means yet, moron.  I'll help you out, it doesn't mean 300 yards.   But let's look at his day.  67% completion rate, 3 TDs, ZERO picks (where were those forced turnovers you brag about?) 312 yards and a rating of 120+.  

    Wow!  Now that was a career day.

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    Rating of 120 and the last TD do not exist of NE's offense was inept at times or 1/4 in the red zone.

    Get it, dummy?

    No one cares about the bottom stat line for a QB. It's how the QB plays overall and manages the game.

    For example, today, Brady had nice stats. His fantasy owners loved him today, but for large chunks of the game, real Pats fans were disappointed with his performance overall. Audibling and failing or not audilbing on 3rd and 1 is sad.   Pathetic and sad for such a supposed great QB like him.

    Sad when casual fans in a car say to me "What is wrong with him?"  

    It has always been about how a QB manages a game and runs the offense. It's why Jeff Hostetler has a SB ring.  

    It's why your Jets haven't had one since the NFL merger and as long as Woody Johnson owns that team, you will NEVER see it.

    Get it?  lmao

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    Bwahhahahahahahhhahahahaha!! What a loser.  Usually, you just like eliminate particular quarters or halfs, but I see you've moved on to pretending that certain plays didn't happen.  What a fool you are.  The Dolphins got juiced out of even more points and plays and you want to pretend a late TD didn't happen?  Oh my!

     
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    Ben Roethlisberger is 13/15. He is shredding the D and the run game is running on them, too.

    Yes, I am watching the game and no, I am not counting the punt return TD.  

    I am mocking you idiots who don't think other teams or other games feature teams who move the ball down the field.

    From there, it's about points.  If the point total allowed matches the yards gained, then that is poor D. If it doesn't match, then it isn't.

    Dalton has also not turned it over to hurt his D like Brady has been prone to do to hurt ours, especially in title games.

    Pitt is driving again, with ease.  You're welcome to join the game thread on that one, pinkies.

     

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    Is this another claim that it was Brady's turnovers today that made the D give up 3 passing TDs?  Oh my, what a fool.

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    No, actually it isn't.  I also don't want Marquice Cole on Mike Wallace either.  Again, no offense can score 20 points and win a game in this league on a regular basis.

    Look at our offense last week with Gronk for most of the game, Bustchise.

    STL just beat New Orleans. 27-16. Saints scored 16. Loss.

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    Offense.

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    Tell me loser, what team gan give the opposing QB a rating of 120 (on a regualar basis) and win.  

    But to dispute your idiotic claim.  The Seahawks have scored 20 or less four times and won three of them.  Why?  Their D doesn't blow.

     
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    Seems to me we still have some rubes in here who think this is enough to win games in this league.

    I can't think of any season in the Goodell era, where 20 points was regularly a winning point total for an NFL team.

    Brady sure made some fantasy owners happy today, though, didn't he?  Fantasy owners happy, diehard fans? Not so much.

    NEWSFLASH: We ain't winning postseason games with just 20 points. It has to be more than that.

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    It's really too bad that the Patriots used to be known for awesome defense, and now their #1 Cheerleader even admits that the odds are good that they'll give up at least three touchdowns per game.

    I wish the GM had done a better job with free agent signings, trades and drafting.

     
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    All I know is the Saints scored 16 points today on the road to the Rams, gave up 27 and lost.

    This league is about offense. If your offense can't produce and be consistent, you don't succeed in this league.

    Brady can pad those fantasy stats with Amendola and Edelman spoiling him to the moon and back with his addiction, but if you don't run it and stay with the run, avoiding red zone whiff jobs, you can't win in this league.

    That was Miami's SB right there.  

    I'll take your wager for next week. Put up or shut up time, Pezzy. Take the challenge, you coward.

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    How much more of Brady's act do you figure BB will tolerate?   I mean, every man has a limit, right?  Does he bench Brady ala Shanahan in favor of Mallett?

     

     
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    I am talking about how people think our D should focibly be held to a standard of 19 points allowed our less when our offense only score 20.  It's lunacy.

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    It's really amazing that Tom Brady is surrounded by such poor options that 30 points isn't a lock every week.

     
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    Ben Roethlisberger is 13/15. He is shredding the D and the run game is running on them, too.

    Yes, I am watching the game and no, I am not counting the punt return TD.  

    I am mocking you idiots who don't think other teams or other games feature teams who move the ball down the field.

    From there, it's about points.  If the point total allowed matches the yards gained, then that is poor D. If it doesn't match, then it isn't.

    Dalton has also not turned it over to hurt his D like Brady has been prone to do to hurt ours, especially in title games.

    Pitt is driving again, with ease.  You're welcome to join the game thread on that one, pinkies.

     

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    Is this another claim that it was Brady's turnovers today that made the D give up 3 passing TDs?  Oh my, what a fool.

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    No, actually it isn't.  I also don't want Marquice Cole on Mike Wallace either.  Again, no offense can score 20 points and win a game in this league on a regular basis.

    Look at our offense last week with Gronk for most of the game, Bustchise.

    STL just beat New Orleans. 27-16. Saints scored 16. Loss.

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    Offense.

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    So, are you saying that 16 is the same as 20 or are you trying to claim that the Saints three turnovers had nothing to do with their low point total? Maybe you missed the 4 sacks on Brees?  

    One similarity, Kellen Clemmens had a Tannehill kind of day, 2 TD no picks, 120+ rating.  Yep, tough to win when the opposing QB puts up those numbers.  Why can't the Jets get a guy like that?

    Did you notice Seattle only scored 23 today? Somehow they won by 23.  Strange.

     
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    I can't think of any season in the Goodell era, where 20 points was regularly a winning point total for an NFL team.

     

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    Well, the O would have had 26 points if we didn't miss the 48 yard FG and then be forced by the D collapse to go for a TD at the last minute instead of kicking a short FG to win.

    Isn't that right? Would 26 points have been enough for you on the road against a bitter rival who is desperate to make the playoffs?

     

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    Yes.  We need to score more than 20 points in any game in this league. It'a an offensive league.

    Why is this so difficult?  I don't think the offense should be off the hook because they can't score more than 20 points barring a pick 6 or STs TD by our D.

     

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    So, SPECIAL TEAMS held us to the 20. Not the offense. We would have conceivably scored 26 and won if he didn't miss that FG.

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    No. We were 1/4 in the red zone without the missed 48 yarder.  A 48 yarder is not a gimme either.

    The D held to 17 and our offense did nothing in the 3rd qtr and into the mid 4th.  That's way too many drives in a row of not moving the sticks in a game where your only behind by 1 score or down by 4.

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    ^ What does all this gibberish matter?

    If we hit the FG we would have scored 23. If we hit that FG we wouldn't have needed a TD to overcome Miami's lead at the end and could have kicked an easy FG for 26 points.

    Why is it so hard to admit that if the FG wasn't missed we would have very likely scored 26 points instead of 20?

    Is it impossible for you to blame anybody other than Brady (or the O) for a loss?

     

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    I agree. It would have been nice if he hadn't missed a makeable kick on the road.  I am just tired of looking at these long, long stretches of the game where the offense is abysmal in general while the D is doing its job.

     

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    TD, TD, FG, punt, TD in the last 5 possessions is doing it's job?  You do know they're not supposed to let them score 24 points on the last 5 drives, right?

    Hmmmm... maybe you don't?  Maybe you just don't know better.  Maybe you actually have the O and D confused.

    The O is the one that scores most (not all) of the points.

    The D can also score points but must prevent the other team from scoring more, to win.

    Got it?

    What's the average score per team in the Nfl, including offensive, defensive and ST scores?  Do I have to remind you, again?

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    All I know is the Saints scored 16 points today on the road to the Rams, gave up 27 and lost.

    This league is about offense. If your offense can't produce and be consistent, you don't succeed in this league.

    Brady can pad those fantasy stats with Amendola and Edelman spoiling him to the moon and back with his addiction, but if you don't run it and stay with the run, avoiding red zone whiff jobs, you can't win in this league.

    That was Miami's SB right there.  

    I'll take your wager for next week. Put up or shut up time, Pezzy. Take the challenge, you coward.

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    What does that gibberish mean?  The Ram's D is better than the Pat's D?  Is that what you mean? 

    Ya, you'd be correct,  The Rams D held the high scoring Saints to 16 and the Pats D held the bottom 10 Fins O to 24 and is giving up 28 points a game since the bye.

    What's the average points per team again?  Can you please tell me?

     
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    How stupid.

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    OK.  I take it you didn't like my book suggestion.  Too many pages?

    Maybe a video is more up your alley ... this one is highly rated on YouTube

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pr7Pu-Zw0Ow

    Again - Glad to Help!

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    I've read more football books than you could ever dream of and recommended many to this board here many times.

    You're a simpleton who thinks our great QB leading our offense can win postseason games with 20 points on the scoreboard. lol

    I am watching Pitt's offense shred Cincy's D. Pitt's offense sucks. Even Big Ben and Haley's awful relationship can't stop crap Pitt from moving the chains and popping in TDs.

    Offensive era.  It is for everyone except for us, with our lead er Brady under Center.

    Great season for comebacks and late surges, but that won't cut it in the postseason.

    24-0 now thorough 10 minutes of the 1st half.

     

     

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    Did you check out the video yet?    Like I said, it's highly rated and very instructive.

     
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    Rusty you do realize the Pats are 5th in the NFL in pts per game........stop acting like they are not doing thier job....... The D is the problem..... Period!!!!!

     
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    I am watching Pitt's offense shred Cincy's D. Pitt's offense sucks. Even Big Ben and Haley's awful relationship can't stop crap Pitt from moving the chains and popping in TDs.

    Offensive era.  It is for everyone except for us, with our lead er Brady under Center.

    Great season for comebacks and late surges, but that won't cut it in the postseason.

    24-0 now thorough 10 minutes of the 1st half. 

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    Are you actually watching that game?  Because the 24 points Pitt has put up has VERY little to do with their O.

    Fumbled punt gave them the ball on the Cinci 1, a 67-yard punt return gave them another TD, and the offense's only actual TD drive saw them start in tremendous field position at the Cinci 47.

    Pittsburgh's tremendous offense has put up a grand total of 136 yards through the first 25 minutes to get those 24 points.  They're really shredding the Bengals D.

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    I'd be surpised if you get a responce

     
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