2010 Mock Rounds 1-6

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    I too have to say that most of the contributors have really done their homework. I am only  a casual reader of  the draft tout sheets . that being said I am now in favor of the Mouncey pick in round 1 I have to ask why is Corey Wooten  DE Northwestern not a consideration for a second round consideration? He appearrs to have Seymour size and speed. He must  be smart ... Northwestern! Also I really think Jimmy Graham TE miami at 6ft 7 in  would fill the bill at TE ( do we have any TEs?)..would he be available with our 4th and is he worth the  53rd , the best ive seen him rated is 81.
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    I'm sure that the guys you are mentioning are on BB's draft board somewheres,as for the knowledge displayed here on this board you can tell where the true passion is amongst sports fans of New England,and with the advent of the internet we have all increased or own capacities for obtaining information. I believe the guy you want the Patriots to take in the first round is Maurkice Pouncey the C-G from Florida as for Graham and Wooten they are liked but to what degree and not just by us fans but more importantly by BB and his crew...
     
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    I saw Wootten listed at 270, which is a little light for a 3-4 DE in Seymour's place. From watching some clips he also looks a little stiff, which can be expected for a guy that's 6'-6". Seymour moves extremely well for such a tall and big guy. 

    I agree that Pouncey seems like a very safe pick, and I'm one that thinks Koppen kills at least 2-3 plays a game when he gets blown off the ball. I think a more stout player would help the interior run game. 

    That being said I'm not backing down from B Graham at 22 (or trading up to get him). He just seems like a special pass rusher, and that's what the Pats need the most. LB is a more risky pick than OL, but you can find a center later in the draft that could be an adequate starter. 

    I like Faucet's draft, but replace Kindle with Graham. There's no way they get Graham, Spikes, Alualu with their first three picks though. I would be thrilled with those picks.

    And I know I know...Graham's too short. Belichick always does the unexpected, so I'm hoping he does the unexpected and picks Graham?


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    I too have to say that most of the contributors have really done their homework. I am only  a casual reader of  the draft tout sheets . that being said I am now in favor of the Mouncey pick in round 1 I have to ask why is Corey Wooten  DE Northwestern not a consideration for a second round consideration? He appearrs to have Seymour size and speed. He must  be smart ... Northwestern! Also I really think Jimmy Graham TE miami at 6ft 7 in  would fill the bill at TE ( do we have any TEs?)..would he be available with our 4th and is he worth the  53rd , the best ive seen him rated is 81.
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    faucet,

    if we got Gresham, Spikes, Alualu and Gerhart I would be more than thrilled...I can realistically see Gresham, ALualu and Gerhart, but don't think like you said, SPikes will slip to us at 45. But, what happens if we reversed the order a bit...say take Spikes at 22, and then Gresham with our 2a/2b?....could you see Gresham falling farther than Spikes based on teams picking in late first/early 2nd?

    So, it might be like this...
    1 -Spikes
    2a - Gresham
    2b - Alualu
    2c - WR?/OL?/OLB Misi
    4th - Decker
    5th (trade back into) - BTate

    Assuming the above happened in some form, I would then pick up Decker or another WR in Round 4, trade some of my 7th's/6ths to jump back into 5, and pick up Ben Tate if I did not get Gerhart in round 2. Personally, I although I like Gerhart, I think I would use a later round pick on my RB (use the 2c on a WR or OL or possibly Misi), and then use a high pick next year to draft my RB of the future in like an Ingram or someone like that. I would however use one of my late round picks this year on someone like Tate. Imagine BTate & Ingram in the backfield. We could then let Maroney walk and the the over 30 guys. 


     
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    faucet, if we got Gresham, Spikes, Alualu and Gerhart I would be more than thrilled...I can realistically see Gresham, ALualu and Gerhart, but don't think like you said, SPikes will slip to us at 45. But, what happens if we reversed the order a bit...say take Spikes at 22, and then Gresham with our 2a/2b?....could you see Gresham falling farther than Spikes based on teams picking in late first/early 2nd? So, it might be like this... 1 -Spikes 2a - Gresham 2b - Alualu 2c - WR?/OL?/OLB Misi 4th - Decker 5th (trade back into) - BTate Assuming the above happened in some form, I would then pick up Decker or another WR in Round 4, trade some of my 7th's/6ths to jump back into 5, and pick up Ben Tate if I did not get Gerhart in round 2. Personally, I although I like Gerhart, I think I would use a later round pick on my RB (use the 2c on a WR or OL or possibly Misi), and then use a high pick next year to draft my RB of the future in like an Ingram or someone like that. I would however use one of my late round picks this year on someone like Tate. Imagine BTate & Ingram in the backfield. We could then let Maroney walk and the the over 30 guys. 
    Posted by PatsLifer


    Mayock moves Sean Lee ahead of Spikes, does he know something we don't?

    http://www.nfl.com/draft/story?id=09000d5d816d2ea9&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true
     
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    I saw Wootten listed at 270, which is a little light for a 3-4 DE in Seymour's place. From watching some clips he also looks a little stiff, which can be expected for a guy that's 6'-6". Seymour moves extremely well for such a tall and big guy.  I agree that Pouncey seems like a very safe pick, and I'm one that thinks Koppen kills at least 2-3 plays a game when he gets blown off the ball. I think a more stout player would help the interior run game.  That being said I'm not backing down from B Graham at 22 (or trading up to get him). He just seems like a special pass rusher, and that's what the Pats need the most. LB is a more risky pick than OL, but you can find a center later in the draft that could be an adequate starter.  I like Faucet's draft, but replace Kindle with Graham. There's no way they get Graham, Spikes, Alualu with their first three picks though. I would be thrilled with those picks. And I know I know...Graham's too short. Belichick always does the unexpected, so I'm hoping he does the unexpected and picks Graham? In Response to Re: 2010 Mock Rounds 1-6 :
    Posted by Rockdog1293000


    Here's my problem with Pauncey, the Pats picked last year Bussey and the coaches are extremely high on the kid.  He is very smart and can play, he was on IR last year so in essence this is his rookie year.  They also have Connoly who I believe will start at center and Ohr who saw playing time last year but might be a bit too light for the job.  I think picking up a guard/center does not make since regardless if the pick is a safe one. 
     
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    Pats,

    I don't know why Mayock moved Lee over Spikes...perhaps it has to do with combine results....Looking at Lee, I don't know where he would fit into our defense...he is too small to play OLB, and I think a bit too light to play ILB. They got him at 6'2", 236lbs....He's kind of somewhere between a big safety and a small LB. 

    If I had to choose Lee or Spikes, the simple choice to me is Spikes. He's an inch taller, 20lbs heavier and is better suited to play inside for us than Lee. He next to Mayo would be scary. Run stopping instantly improves, especially if we also got Odrick or Alualu to play end.

    In terms of Bussey and Ohrenberger i tend to agree. I do believe having depth at the various OL positions is necessary, this is why I suggested waiting until later rounds to draft an OL and using our 1st and 2nds on playmakers. 


     
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    Pats...

    Plus, if you look at Mayock's other rankings...he has Kindle, Daryl Washington, Sean Weatherspoon over Jerry Hughes, which is a head scratcher, and Earl Thomas over Eric Berry which i don't understand either. 

    I like Mayock and feel he is one of the better analysts, but don't agree on the above nor Lee over Spikes.
     
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    Pats, I don't know why Mayock moved Lee over Spikes...perhaps it has to do with combine results....Looking at Lee, I don't know where he would fit into our defense...he is too small to play OLB, and I think a bit too light to play ILB. They got him at 6'2", 236lbs....He's kind of somewhere between a big safety and a small LB.  If I had to choose Lee or Spikes, the simple choice to me is Spikes. He's an inch taller, 20lbs heavier and is better suited to play inside for us than Lee. He next to Mayo would be scary. Run stopping instantly improves, especially if we also got Odrick or Alualu to play end. In terms of Bussey and Ohrenberger i tend to agree. I do believe having depth at the various OL positions is necessary, this is why I suggested waiting until later rounds to draft an OL and using our 1st and 2nds on playmakers. 
    Posted by PatsLifer


    I agree on Spikes, he is not only what you mentioned but a vocal high motor guy who would finish games.  He has been sliding maybe he can be had in the 2nd round, he and Mayo in the middle would be a scary.  McKenzie is a good tackler good in coverage and has played as a strong side LB before, if Spikes is drafted could McKenzie move to the outside on the weakside?  Take over for AD?

    The only OL position I would look at drafting in the 2nd round is a tackle be the RT of the future when ML leaves and Voll moves to LT.  We don't have that RT on the team yet and need to bring one in.  I would look at someone like Calloway, Veldheer or in later rounds I really like Will Baker Virginia OT.
     
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    faucet, if we got Gresham, Spikes, Alualu and Gerhart I would be more than thrilled...I can realistically see Gresham, ALualu and Gerhart, but don't think like you said, SPikes will slip to us at 45. But, what happens if we reversed the order a bit...say take Spikes at 22, and then Gresham with our 2a/2b?....could you see Gresham falling farther than Spikes based on teams picking in late first/early 2nd? So, it might be like this... 1 -Spikes 2a - Gresham 2b - Alualu 2c - WR?/OL?/OLB Misi 4th - Decker 5th (trade back into) - BTate Assuming the above happened in some form, I would then pick up Decker or another WR in Round 4, trade some of my 7th's/6ths to jump back into 5, and pick up Ben Tate if I did not get Gerhart in round 2. Personally, I although I like Gerhart, I think I would use a later round pick on my RB (use the 2c on a WR or OL or possibly Misi), and then use a high pick next year to draft my RB of the future in like an Ingram or someone like that. I would however use one of my late round picks this year on someone like Tate. Imagine BTate & Ingram in the backfield. We could then let Maroney walk and the the over 30 guys. 
    Posted by PatsLifer


    Lifer,

    Based on my analysis of team needs (and I'm sure this could be flawed), here's where I see Gresham and Spikes potentially going.

    For Gresham

    #22 NE
    #26 ARI (higher needs are QB, OT, OLB)
    #28 SD (higher needs are RB, DT, CB, S)
    #32 NO (higher needs are OT, OLB but this team is stacked and at #32, Gresham would be a great value pick.  This is the first place besides us at #22 that I think he could go)
    #44 DEN (assuming they trade Marshall, they would need a WR, NT/DT, ILB before they would take a TE.  But if they get a first for Marshall, they could have addressed NT and WR before this point and would be a real risk to take Gresham.  In fact any team operating under BPA principles between say 30-44 are at risk to take him.  I have Gresham at #24 overall on my board)
    #45 NE

    For Spikes

    Although you have the Giants and Tenn at 15 and 16 needing ILB help, I think both go different directions.

    #22 NE
    #23 GB (bigger needs are OT, CB, OG)
    #24 PHI (bigger needs are OG, CB, FS)
    #25 BAL (bigger needs are CB, C, DE) They might take Pouncey if he's still there.
    #27 DAL (bigger needs are OT, OG, DE)
    #28 SD (bigger needs are RB, DT, CB, S)
    #30 MIN (bigger needs are CB) first real threat to take Spikes
    #36 KC (bigger needs are OT, S, DT, CB, WR, OLB) but they have 3 picks in first 2 rounds
    #38 CLE (bigger needs are OG, OT, WR) major treat to take Spikes. This is their second pick and the good OTs and OGs would be gone by here and there are plenty of WR options throughout the draft but the talent falls off at ILB after Spikes.
    #44 DEN (assuming they trade Marshall, they would need a WR, NT/DT).  I believe they take Dan Williams at #10.  If they take McClain instead, they won't take Spikes.  But if they take Williams, Spikes is likely their target.  There will be many talented WRs available in the 3rd.
    #45 NE

    I have Spikes rated at 34.  I'd feel better about our chances to get him if it wasn't for Denver sitting at 44 and having a bunch of picks.
     
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    I think there a lot of options at LB especially if you consider the current roster.

    in a 3-4...we could have Mayo/McKenzie inside, and Crable/Guyton/Woods/TBC outside. If all stayed healthy, and all played decently, that line up is not so bad...not optimal, but not bad..

    I think with a guy like McKenzie he could play outside but lacks the length. I think he is only listed at 6'1"-2" and about 245lbs. 

    If we drafted Spikes, could we move him inside with Mayo, and use Crable/Guyton/Mckenzie outside with TBC coming in on passing downs? possibly. 

    I still think we need someone at the OLB spot regardless of McKenzie. In our defense, I think McKenzie's natural spot is next to Mayo, but I also think Spikes is an upgrade over McKenzie and can play all 3 downs. Perhaps use McKenzie for depth inside and see if he can play the OLB spot. He has the same physical makeup of other highly touted OLB's in this year's draft like Weatherspoon, etc.

    Lots of questions. if i could read the crystal ball and it said Crable would play this year and contribute significantly, then I'm less worried about the outside position.
     
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    In Response to Re: 2010 Mock Rounds 1-6 : Lifer, Based on my analysis of team needs (and I'm sure this could be flawed), here's where I see Gresham and Spikes potentially going. For Gresham #22 NE #26 ARI (higher needs are QB, OT, OLB) #28 SD (higher needs are RB, DT, CB, S) #32 NO (higher needs are OT, OLB but this team is stacked and at #32, Gresham would be a great value pick.  This is the first place besides us at #22 that I think he could go) #44 DEN (assuming they trade Marshall, they would need a WR, NT/DT, ILB before they would take a TE.  But if they get a first for Marshall, they could have addressed NT and WR before this point and would be a real risk to take Gresham.  In fact any team operating under BPA principles between say 30-44 are at risk to take him.  I have Gresham at #24 overall on my board) #45 NE For Spikes Although you have the Giants and Tenn at 15 and 16 needing ILB help, I think both go different directions. #22 NE #23 GB #24 PHI #25 BAL #27 DAL #28 SD #30 MIN #36 KC #38 CLE #44 DEN #45 NE I have Spikes rated at 34.  I'd feel better about our chances to get him if it wasn't for Denver sitting at 44 and having a bunch of picks.
    Posted by Faucetman


    I don't think we trade for marshall, the two teams right now in the run the seahawks and Jets are said to have a 1st round offer to them.  Sorry Jets are internally talking about it but it would be for their 1st round pick.

    I don't think the 44th will be enough to get marshall and honestly even if it was I don't really want that guy on the team who's trying to get back to humble pie eating players.  Yes he's a great talent but a bigger pain.

    I rather take take Demaryius Thomas from Tech or Damian Williams from SC.
     
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    In Response to Re: 2010 Mock Rounds 1-6 : I don't think we trade for marshall, the two teams right now in the run the seahawks and Jets are said to have a 1st round offer to them.  Sorry Jets are internally talking about it but it would be for their 1st round pick. I don't think the 44th will be enough to get marshall and honestly even if it was I don't really want that guy on the team who's trying to get back to humble pie eating players.  Yes he's a great talent but a bigger pain. I rather take take Demaryius Thomas from Tech or Damian Williams from SC.
    Posted by Pats7393

    I wasn't suggesting we trade for Marshall.  I was suggesting that Denver is shopping him for a 1st and Seattle is one team interested.  I was saying if Denver trades Marshall to someone, they made it clear they want a first.  They would then have a major need at WR.
     
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    Just a suggestion for all of you posting mock drafts for the Patriots go to NationalFootballPost.com and use their charts to see what type of player the Scouts actually think the player you are projecting as a possible pick for the Patriots. Scouting ratings are ranks from 8 to 5 with 8 being the best you could possibly hope for and 5 being nothing but a wasted pick,the charts they have on this site tells you what each players grade is according to the scouts who work for the NFL. I find this site very insightful and it lists each player available for each position. Well keep the thread going and I'll enjoy reading all the ideas everyone here has to offer.Happy St.Patrick's Day to all of you in New England.
     
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    I think there a lot of options at LB especially if you consider the current roster. in a 3-4...we could have Mayo/McKenzie inside, and Crable/Guyton/Woods/TBC outside. If all stayed healthy, and all played decently, that line up is not so bad...not optimal, but not bad.. I think with a guy like McKenzie he could play outside but lacks the length. I think he is only listed at 6'1"-2" and about 245lbs.  If we drafted Spikes, could we move him inside with Mayo, and use Crable/Guyton/Mckenzie outside with TBC coming in on passing downs? possibly.  I still think we need someone at the OLB spot regardless of McKenzie. In our defense, I think McKenzie's natural spot is next to Mayo, but I also think Spikes is an upgrade over McKenzie and can play all 3 downs. Perhaps use McKenzie for depth inside and see if he can play the OLB spot. He has the same physical makeup of other highly touted OLB's in this year's draft like Weatherspoon, etc. Lots of questions. if i could read the crystal ball and it said Crable would play this year and contribute significantly, then I'm less worried about the outside position.
    Posted by PatsLifer


    Getting Spikes at #45 is a pipe dream.  We could have him at #22 which a few months ago a lot of people would have been very satisfied with.  Obviously OLB is a bigger need for us.  The buzz is we are interested in Kindle and Graham.  It would not shock me if we took one of them.  There are other options later in besides Odrick to replace Seymour so I don't think they would go DL at #22 unless Williams was there.  So, it really comes down to Kindle/Graham or Gresham with Pouncey being a safe and solid pick but much less immediate need.  The other options would be playmakers like Best/Tate/D. Thomas.  The Pats typically don't take those types early in the draft.
     
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    I just saw a mock on Walterfootball that has us getting Dez Bryant...How cool would that be. 
     
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    In Response to Re: 2010 Mock Rounds 1-6 : I wasn't suggesting we trade for Marshall.  I was suggesting that Denver is shopping him for a 1st and Seattle is one team interested.  I was saying if Denver trades Marshall to someone, they made it clear they want a first.  They would then have a major need at WR.
    Posted by Faucetman


    With the 44th thought you were talking trading that pick, thought the Pats have the 44th and 48th?
     
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    Armanti Edwards QB Appalachian State 6'0" 190 4.51 40

    Has worked out for some teams as a WR and returner, anyone heard the Pats looking at this kid?  Late round projection 5th to 7th.

    "Edwards, an electric dual threat QB, is perhaps the best known player in the FCS. He rushed 193 times in 13 games for 1169 yards, lost 228 on sacks and other attempts for 941 yards, 4.9 per carry 11 scores and a longest of 76 yards, with these gaudy passing stats a 170.19 QB Rating, 2,902 passing yards in 2008 and 30 TDs also in his career 7,101 Yards and 62TDs. Despite the fact that he is known as a runner his completion %s: 60.9, 66.7 and 64.1 and while he has passed for 62 scores he has only thrown 26 picks."
     
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    In Response to Re: 2010 Mock Rounds 1-6 : Mayock moves Sean Lee ahead of Spikes, does he know something we don't? http://www.nfl.com/draft/story?id=09000d5d816d2ea9&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true
    Posted by Pats7393


    That happened a while ago. I had posted that here as well as saying I have ALWAYS heard negative things about spikes.

    Todays pro day will answer some questions for us all.

    His production has gone down every year over the last three seasons. He has questions of range due to his speed.

    None of this is new, but most of it is more guessing and unknowns which cause his stock to go down because he hasn't run his 40. He also did not wow anyone at the combine apparently.

    I have always said his stock was not as high this year as most on this board have always thought. I think people never let go of last seasons expected/projected draft value or something.

    I do not even claim that it was "my" eyes telling me this. Simply perceived momentum from following everything written about the player.

    That's why I have always stated Spoon would go first from way back . How it will unfold who knows. Again, todays pro day could do a lot for Spikes. As of this moment, however, my original perceived momentum was accurate as Spoon is the higher rated LB currently.
     
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    Armanti Edwards QB Appalachian State 6'0" 190 4.51 40 Has worked out for some teams as a WR and returner, anyone heard the Pats looking at this kid?  Late round projection 5th to 7th. "Edwards, an electric dual threat QB, is perhaps the best known player in the FCS. He rushed 193 times in 13 games for 1169 yards, lost 228 on sacks and other attempts for 941 yards, 4.9 per carry 11 scores and a longest of 76 yards, with these gaudy passing stats a 170.19 QB Rating, 2,902 passing yards in 2008 and 30 TDs also in his career 7,101 Yards and 62TDs. Despite the fact that he is known as a runner his completion %s: 60.9, 66.7 and 64.1 and while he has passed for 62 scores he has only thrown 26 picks."
    Posted by Pats7393



    Yes the Patriots have been linked to his name for some time now. Folks on here were complaining and pleading "No not another QB to WR convert. Get a real WR" lol

    He's a great athlete.
     
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    Yet another one of this boards original favorites that I was not high on might be moving down even further. Talk of Dwyer in the 3rd round now. 

    http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-draft/09000d5d816f7a12/Georgia-Tech-Pro-Day

    Again keep reading this RB draft class is not very strong. Beats me. Most of these RB's look pretty good to me.

    I think if a guy like Dwyer ends up in the 3rd round it's just because some other positions depth has pushed some RB's down the board. 
     
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    In Response to Re: 2010 Mock Rounds 1-6 : Yes the Patriots have been linked to his name for some time now. Folks on here were complaining and pleading "No not another QB to WR convert. Get a real WR" lol He's a great athlete.
    Posted by Low-FB-IQ


    If the kid can play why not, QBs converted have a different feel for the game and how to run routes.  If he is quick not just fast and can play I say go for it.  He also rushed for more yards than some RBs coming out.  He's not big enough to be an every down back but could be turned into a 3rd down back who can be motioned into the slot ect.  If he's that versatile and can catch the ball yes take him in the 6th.  We are all calling for dexter to be drafted well not all but a good number of us, this guy ran a good 40 is bigger than dex.
    As a QB he will also understand how blitzes are coming if you line him up as a RB.
     
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    In Response to Re: 2010 Mock Rounds 1-6 : That happened a while ago. I had posted that here as well as saying I have ALWAYS heard negative things about spikes. Todays pro day will answer some questions for us all. His production has gone down every year over the last three seasons. He has questions of range due to his speed. None of this is new, but most of it is more guessing and unknowns which cause his stock to go down because he hasn't run his 40. He also did not wow anyone at the combine apparently. I have always said his stock was not as high this year as most on this board have always thought. I think people never let go of last seasons expected/projected draft value or something. I do not even claim that it was "my" eyes telling me this. Simply perceived momentum from following everything written about the player. That's why I have always stated Spoon would go first from way back . How it will unfold who knows. Again, todays pro day could do a lot for Spikes. As of this moment, however, my original perceived momentum was accurate as Spoon is the higher rated LB currently.
    Posted by Low-FB-IQ


    I'll only speak for myself, but my argument has never really been who is rated higher, it's that Spikes is a better fit in NE as a 3-4 ILB.
     
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    Yet another one of this boards original favorites that I was not high on might be moving down even further. Talk of Dwyer in the 3rd round now.  http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-draft/09000d5d816f7a12/Georgia-Tech-Pro-Day Again keep reading this RB draft class is not very strong. Beats me. Most of these RB's look pretty good to me. I think if a guy like Dwyer ends up in the 3rd round it's just because some other positions depth has pushed some RB's down the board. 
    Posted by Low-FB-IQ

    Iknow this is ESPN rumors but I tend to agree with this one, I see his college position as not been such a negative.  He played 2 yards back fromt he QB and he didn't have much time to look and analyze what the D was doing now he'll have the time and be able to hit the hole at full speed.

    Will Dwyer crack the first round?

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    A borderline first-round prospect -- given the lowered emphasis NFL teams are placing on backs given the running-back-by-committee revolution -- Georgia Tech standout Jonathan Dwyer did not do himself any favors by running the 4.6s in the 40-yard dash at the combine.

    ESPN's Bruce Feldman discussed why Dwyer is a polarizing figure following the combine, noting that "the frenetic nature of the triple option scheme he played in at Tech" might be the cause of all the hype. Dwyer was at the Yellow Jackets' pro day on Tuesday, and did drop his 40 time a bit. Is it enough to get back into the first round? For a quick take on that, here's Steve Muench of Scouts, Inc.:


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    "Jonathan Dwyer appeared to be in excellent shape and ran the 40-yard dash in the 4.52-second range, which is a considerable improvement over the 4.6s he ran at the combine. Dwyer's new time should help stabilize his stock but don't expect him to get back into the best-back-in-the-class discussion. Clemson's C.J. Spiller, Fresno State's Ryan Mathews and California's Jahvid Best ran so well at the combine that Dwyer can't catch up at this point, and Dwyer is a second-round pick at this point."

     
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    Re: 2010 Mock Rounds 1-6

    I just read Jon Gruden spent a day with Tebow to work on his throwing motion ect.  I have never heard of so many NFL coaches, trainers spending so much time on one guy.

    Yes some of these guys are paid but others are helping a kid who they think deserves to be in the league and get a chance.  I have been one to say I don't want him drafted but goodness does this kid just says winner and makes everyone gravitate towards him. 

    Although I don't think we can afford to spend a 2nd on him I do wish he gets a shot in the pros and makes it as a starter someday.  If anything it will be a great example of what you can do if you do things right and work hard.

    http://www2.tbo.com/content/2010/mar/04/050910/gruden-spends-day-tutoring-nfl-hopeful-tebow/sports/

     
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    Re: 2010 Mock Rounds 1-6

    In Response to Re: 2010 Mock Rounds 1-6:
    In Response to Re: 2010 Mock Rounds 1-6 : I'll only speak for myself, but my argument has never really been who is rated higher, it's that Spikes is a better fit in NE as a 3-4 ILB.
    Posted by mbeaulieu07


    I would probably agree with you as well mbeau. 

    What I have started to question however is if the Patriots really use the 3-4 in the same manner as they used before the rule changes and the proliferation of the pass.

    The Patriots are in nickel so much of the time now I am not sure the TJ role is as big a deal for them anymore.


     
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