Re: 2010 Mock Rounds 1-6
posted at 3/20/2010 10:31 PM EDT
In Response to Re: 2010 Mock Rounds 1-6
Guys, I love a spirited debate but it seems some get defensive when views differ. Let's all celebrate and remain optimistic that we are going to have one heck of a great draft and put a team out there in 2010 that is much better than the team we fielded in 2009. We all remember how pathetic we were in 2006 with no receivers, right? We still went to the AFC Championship game and should've beat the Colts if the refs and flu didn't kill us. We then went out and got Moss, Stallworth, and Welker. Thomas aside, those three offensive weapons added in the off season sparked a 16-0 season and record setting offense that may not be matched in our lifetimes. This year we have 4 of the top 53 picks in a loaded draft. I have stated repeatedly that we can win in this league by blowing people out and having just an average defense. We were 12th last year on D so our D is really close to top third. The Colts have won that way for years. We won that way in 2007. We don't have to find a great DE in the draft. I read that we signed Wilfork, Bodden, Neal and TBC for less than the Bears paid to get Peppers. Who is the smarter team? Our defense is young. Assuming Springs and Thomas leave we would have just TBC over 30 years old and he just turns 30 before the season starts. I say, plug one hole on D, be it 34 DE or OLB with a premium pick and get some play makers with the other 3. It was so much fun blowing the doors off people in 2007. I would like to see it again.
Posted by Faucetman
Faucet no worries, I would not have ever sent you a message about contributing to our website if I had issues with your work or opinions even if disagreed with from time to time.
Here again I think you are misremembering 2007.
2007 - Not only did Brady have some new Weapons Moss and Welker (he had them last year too but I understand your point, no real 3rd receiver option) BUT it was the first year of the Spread offense BB started incorporating after spending time with his body Myers down in Florida.
Lets set the stage shall we.
AFC east in 2007 was a complete joke.
The addition/unveiling of the spread and how they used their new receiving weapons in 2007 was akin to a rookie QB having have a decent rookie year and taking a step back his sophomore year as teams develop a "book" on him.
Once the Patriots hit the half way mark at week 8 in 2007 they weren't blowing anyone out except the truly pathetic teams. Of the final 8 games in regular season the Patriots...
week 9 beat Indy by only 4 points in a very tough close game.
week 10 Bye
week 11 Blow out pathetic Buffalo (buffalo lost 6 of its final 8 and the two wins against helpless 1-15 Miami)
week 12 barely beat Philly by 3 points
week 13 barely beat Baltimore by 3 point
week 14 solid win over Pitt by 21 points (Steelers were ok that year 10-6 and in battle with cleveland for division. No Palomalu and I think it was the game some no name DB was filling in for one of their starting DB's not palomalu and had mouthed off in thee week leading up to the game and Brady torched him all day)
week 15 beat the lowly jets by 10 points
week 16 beat 1-15 miami by 21 points
week 17 beat giants by 3 points
If you look at the season objectively the games got tougher and tighter as the teams got a book on the new offense and its weapons. Especially playing anyone decent and not total scrubs. We certainly did not just blow right through any opponent week after week.
Move to the post season.
Jaguars game. They bafflingly decide to lay back and bring no pressure the whole game and Brady picked them apart. Pats win by 11 but again not a blow out.
Chargers. Pats could have lost that game easily if it weren't for Maroney. He was unstoppable and covered for Brady's many INT's and poor day. Pats win by 9 and only score 21 points.
Giants and super bowl we all know what happened the offense that really wasn't blowing anyone out for most of the 2nd half of the season and who barely beat the chargers put up a pathetic 14 points in the super bowl.
That was the 2nd fewest points scored in a super bowl by an offense since 1994.
In 2007 the defense was ranked 4th in the NFL in total defense.
I don't think going all offense in the draft would do anything for us. Nothing special at all and we certainly would not go through the league blowing anyone out.
People are well documented now on the Patriots spread offense. They are also well documented on how to deal with Moss. You are not going to take anyone by surprise for the 1st half of the season and any rookie coming in still has some learning curve. Even the quickest learners have some.
In the 2007 high powered offense post season we went 31 - 21 - 14 in points scored. Each game scoring less.
In 2006 by contrast, the year you said we were awful cause we had only Reche caldwell. (I agree we were undermanned at WR but not awful as a team)
2006 post season we went 37 - 24 - 34 in points scored.
We scored more points in the post season with reche caldwell as our #1 then we ever have with Randy Moss as our #1.
In short no thank you to the idea of going all offense and we will just blow every one out every game. imo.