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    Bill normally hasnt gotten the chance because OLBs like that are usually off the board when the Pats select. If Quinn falls into their laps theirs only 1 way they could pass on him and thats if he completely bombs their interview and thats doubtful dude fits what the pats love in players
     
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     I like Jonathan Brewer WR from Pitt with Oaklands pick. He's 6'5"-6'6" 230lbs. They say he runs a 4.37 but we will see at the combine, if he comes out he's a junior. He has a 42" vertical leap, and great hands. He attacks the ball and catches it at its highest point. He can stretch the field, but not afraid to go over middle. He is also a workout warrior. He works out and runs routes relentlessly. I was reading some articles about him, the Pitt DB's can't cover him in practice, he's a beast. He's having to adjust to a new QB this year, so his numbers may be down slightly.
     
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    You mean Baldwin? Theres no player that goes to Pitt named Jonathan Brewer lol.


     
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    Here's a little research I did for another post on another thread.  I will try to break down each position historically and provide an update later to see if there are other trends to give us insight into the mind of Mr. Belichick.

    BB doesn't like to draft RBs or WRs for that matter.  He's made 101 selections during his tenure but has only drafted 6 RBs and 8 WRs.  That's 13.8% of the choices on these skilled positions although these positions typically account for 18.9% of the usual number of spots on the 53 man team.

    Of these 14 picks only 1 has been in the first round, Maroney in 2007.  The rounds in the draft where he took these selections starting from 2010 and working back to 2000 are as follows:

    WR: 3, 3, 7, 2, 5, 2, 2, 7
    RB: 6, 1, 4, 7, 3, 7

    I'm not saying he won't spend draft picks on the RB position.  I'm saying he prefers to get his RBs and WR via trades or free agency.  RB in particular he's used late picks in rounds 6 and 7 for half of his selections.

    In fact if you look at RBs and WRs we picked up via trade or as free agents between 2001 and 2009 you will see that this is the route BB usually takes to land this talent.  Below is the list of noteworthy RBs and FA acquired this way in two fewer years.  There are plenty of others at these positions who were not noteworthy.  The below list contains 18 players as compared to the 14 drafted and again half of those drafted players were late round picks that didn't stick.

    WR: David Patton, Tim Dwight, Reche Caldwell, Jabar Gaffney, Randy Moss, Wes Welker, Donte Stallworth, Kelley Washington, Sam Aiken

    RB:  Antowain Smith, Marc Edwards, Larry Centers, Corey Dillon, Heath Evans, LaMont Jordan, Sammy Morris, Ben Jarvis Green-Ellis, Fred Taylor

    The lesson here is don't count on BB taking a WR or RB in the first round.  It is twice as likely that BB will take a WR in the first 3 rounds compared to the chance he will take a RB that high.  To put it another way...

    Only 2% of our picks since 2000 were spent on RBs taken within the first 3 rounds.  Only 5% of our picks during the same period were used on WRs taken in the first three rounds.  That's a pathetic combined 7 premium picks out of 101 used on those two skill positions which normally account for 19% of roster spots.  So, BB will go after free agents nearly twice as often as he will drafting RBs or WRs.
     
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    You mean Baldwin? Theres no player that goes to Pitt named Jonathan Brewer lol.
    Posted by Pancakespwn

    Alright I'll take your guy Jonathan Baldwin instead, but if a 6'6" WR from Pitt named Jotnathan Brewer ever comes out, I'm all over it.
     
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     I like Jonathan Brewer WR from Pitt with Oaklands pick. He's 6'5"-6'6" 230lbs. They say he runs a 4.37 but we will see at the combine, if he comes out he's a junior. He has a 42" vertical leap, and great hands. He attacks the ball and catches it at its highest point. He can stretch the field, but not afraid to go over middle. He is also a workout warrior. He works out and runs routes relentlessly. I was reading some articles about him, the Pitt DB's can't cover him in practice, he's a beast. He's having to adjust to a new QB this year, so his numbers may be down slightly.
    Posted by dfitzp


    Sorry man but I just don't see Baldwin as a top 15 WR. I think he's going to be a late 1st round pick, comparable to Thomas this past year. His biggest issue is his lack of burst in cuts and his inability to create seperation, again like Thomas. He's a large body right now that uses his size to make catches but that might not translate into the pro's. There's a large number of sizable WR's picked in the 1st who just couldn't cut it in the NFL do to the lack of seperation and route running. You also exaggerated his speed. From most reports I see he has slightly above average speed (~4.5) but can't use it to gain separation and doesn't stretch the field as well as one would hope. He's big but can be covered 1v1. Essentially he's a bigger but slower version of Tate without the cutting ability. I'd rather see what Price and Tate can do and fix the D or the Oline before taking a WR high.

    Now if you are talking about James Brewer the RT from Indiana projected to go late 2nd then I'm all for it. Having him and Vollmer ancher the corners of the Oline would be great.
     
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    In Response to Re: 2011 Draft : Hi Nate, Missed your call on him, he looks like a prototypical OT.  This is what I'm thinking on an OT, Voll is almost a lock at move to LT right?  I don't see BB spending a 1st rounder on a RT and if he keeps playing well and does well as expected in offseason workouts he will probably be a top 20 pick because of the lack of elite OTs in this draft. RTs are 2nd and 3rd rounds. Guy in that area I like is Gabe Carimi 6'7" 322. Pass blocking: Has the elite agility and nimble feet to protect the quarterback's blindside. Very difficult to turn the corner against because of his lateral movement and solid footwork. Also protects the inside lane well. Delivers a strong hand punch capable of knocking back an opponent, and is able to recoil and extend again. Uses his length to block his man with one hand and knock an edge blitzer off his path with the other. Quick to cut on bubble screens and reverses, though he could get more of his man's legs to be truly effective. Bends at the waist while engaged; usually holds on to prevent secondary rush but will also end up on the ground too often. Run blocking: Known as an athletic pass protector, but is a strong blocker for the Badger run game. Has strong upper and lower body builds despite his height. Plays with leverage against stout defensive ends and tackles on the edge, can get under their pads and churn his legs to move them down or off the line. Effective combo blocker, gets a hand on a tackle and still manages to push ends out of the play on strong-side runs. Leans or bends at the waist to latch on at times, will get shed and lose his balance. Pulling/trapping: Usually not asked to pull or trap from the outside, but down-blocks often and has the quickness and footwork to move behind the line. Gets his quick hands out in front to get a piece of inside defenders before moving to the MIKE linebacker. Can sustain blocks in space because of his length and nimble feet. Initial Quickness: Elite first step in his kick slide and lateral movement, does not get beat off the edge very often. Also explodes off the ball on run plays, is capable of driving his man back a few yards. Defenders will take advantage of the quickness to take him upfield or knock him off balance, however. Downfield: Excellent footwork and agility to get downfield. Reaches linebackers at the second level and defensive backs further downfield equally well. Knows the proper angle to cut off defenders from the ballcarrier. Good lateral movement once engaged, gives effort to sustain against smaller defenders. Tends to bend at the waist and punch instead of moving after initial contact. Intangibles: Solid player with strong work ethic, as well as football and general intelligence. Received multiple Academic All-American and All-Big Ten awards. Missed three games in 2008 with right MCL sprain, but played through maladies in 2009: slight tear in right MCL scarring, left AC joint (shoulder) sprain, H1N1 virus. Fasted for 24 hours before 2008 game against Iowa in observance of Yom Kippur.
    Posted by Pats7393


    Yeah i had solder on my wish list when he was a projected 2-3 round pick. Gabe Carimi sounds pretty good as well. when is he porjected to be taken?
     
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    Why do we want peterson he is good but im tired of investing top picks on cbs.
    Also we SHOULD NOT draft pouncey he cant shotgun snap for his life and his brother is struggling for the steelers
     Id love
    1st-Aj Green
    1st= Robert Quinn or Von Miller
    2nd- Jared Crick
    2nd. Gabe Cameri
    3rd-K State rb
    3rd- John Moffit
    4th-James Rodgers or the stanford FB

     
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    In Response to Re: 2011 Draft : Yeah i had solder on my wish list when he was a projected 2-3 round pick. Gabe Carimi sounds pretty good as well. when is he porjected to be taken?
    Posted by natesubs


    most places has him as a 2nd rounder, seen some into the 3rd.  With OL and it is true for all possitions but OL can change almost week to week.  You can have a guy who looks great for 5 weeks then faces a pro type DE/DTs and gets burned and that game will be reviewed more than others with lower level competition.  Right now there are probably 10 guys who are going to continue to move up and down in the first 3 rounds

    Sherrod 6'5" 305 Miss. State Top 20?
    Castonzo 6'7" 308 BC Top 20?
    Solder 6'8" 315 Colorado 22-35?
    Love 6'5" 315 Arkansas 22-35?
    Pinkston 6'4" 308 Pitt 2nd Rnd
    Cannon 6'5" 358 TCU 2nd Rnd
    Carimi 6'7" 322 Wis 2nd Rnd
    Brewer 6'6" 334 Indiana 2nd Rnd
    Gilbert 6'5" 320 Florida late 2nd/early 3rd
    Carpernter 6'5" 300 Alabama 3rd

    I think 3 of these guys will go round 1, and the other will be in round 2.  Also think there will be a run of OTs in the 2nd.  There's a big drop once you get into later rounds so I can see 4 or 5 OTs in the 2nd maybe even some reaching happening.

    I would pick Solder with the 2nd of the 1st rnd picks although if he does as well as expected in combine and workouts he probably breaks the top 20.

     
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    Why do we want peterson he is good but im tired of investing top picks on cbs. Also we SHOULD NOT draft pouncey he cant shotgun snap for his life and his brother is struggling for the steelers  Id love 1st-Aj Green 1st= Robert Quinn or Von Miller 2nd- Jared Crick 2nd. Gabe Cameri 3rd-K State rb 3rd- John Moffit 4th-James Rodgers or the stanford FB
    Posted by Bspikes55


    I don't think Peterson will be available anywhere close to the Pats 1st pick but if he is he's the pick. 
    BB on McCourty

    "I think Devin's ability to help the team on four downs, it's hard for me to picture a player who can do more than that. There aren't many players who can really impact the game on first, second, third and fourth downs. I think he can be a player that can contribute in all four of those areas, and I think that gives him a lot of versatility and a lot of value."

    If he's there he'll be the pick but chances of he getting out of the top 5 is 0, he would need to have a terrible rest of the year and I don't see that happening or have an injury which will keep him out of 2011 other than he's locked right now.

    A WR won't be picked that high, Faucet I believe has a great breakdown of WR and RB draft history.

     
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      B.B. should draft best available, even a top rated Q.B. dink and dunk is set up by play action passes and without a feared RB there's no hesitation by the D. we need a an olineman and a running back. 
        I like the branch pick up, we went from randy the businessman to deion the people champ. ask him how his pay day turned out?
     
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    A QB? that is a total waste of a pick.  He will be on his second contract before playing a snap with TB here. 
     
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    In regards to the receiver talk, there are some supremely talented kids (with height) available in this class however it must be noted that BB generally drafts WR's that are fast, quick in short in the short area/in and out of breaks and have good lateral agility, this historically has translated into smaller WR's.  This skill set fits well with their preferred offensive philosophy to work the underneath and intermediate part of the field while occasionally take a shot at the homerun ball.

    It would't suprise me at all if he passes on AJ Green/Julio Jones/Michael Floyd/Jonathan Baldwin assuming any are available when NE picks.

    A kid to keep an eye (especially those who wanted Dexter McCluster last year) on is Jacquizz Rodgers (5-7 190 RB/WR) from Oregon State, he's only a junior but the kid is electric with the ball in his hands.  He's a versatile (Primarily a RB, but has 100+ receptions in his career and looks comfortable running rountes.  He won't be a fulltime RB in the NFL though he could be a valuable 3rd down back as well.) and produtive, has elite quickness, is tough and extremely competitive with a little of that small man syndrome/chip on his shoulder type attitude.  Personally, I like that in a player.
     
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    mb - I think I'd like to see more of Woodhead before looking at another 3rd down receiving back. If Woodhead continues to progress I don't think a smaller change of back is needed.

    Provided Woodhead continues to prove a decent change of pace back I think we need a bruiser back to soften up the defense, goal line situations, and works as a FB blocker when needed.
     
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    I think it will at one Crimson Tide player drafted by us RB Mark Ingram or  WR Julio Jones or DE Marcell Dareus
     
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    mb - I think I'd like to see more of Woodhead before looking at another 3rd down receiving back. If Woodhead continues to progress I don't think a smaller change of back is needed. Provided Woodhead continues to prove a decent change of pace back I think we need a bruiser back to soften up the defense, goal line situations, and works as a FB blocker when needed.
    Posted by PatsEng


    PE,
    I like what I've seen to this point from Woodhead but my point was, they could utilize his (Rodgers) versatility and athleticsim (a la Edelman), put him in the slot, maybe split out wide, use him out of the backfield.  BB likes them quick and this kid is as quick as they come. 

    To your other point, I've been vocal in my belief that they need and upgrade at RB (dating back to the 2010 draft) and would love someone that brings the power game (Ingram) as well as a pure FB (Marecic) to add value to said power game.
     
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    In Response to Re: 2011 Draft : PE, I like what I've seen to this point from Woodhead but my point was, they could utilize his (Rodgers) versatility and athleticsim (a la Edelman), put him in the slot, maybe split out wide, use him out of the backfield.  BB likes them quick and this kid is as quick as they come.  To your other point, I've been vocal in my belief that they need and upgrade at RB (dating back to the 2010 draft) and would love someone that brings the power game (Ingram) as well as a pure FB (Marecic) to add value to said power game.
    Posted by mbeaulieu07


    There in lies the problem of adding to many people to the pot. If you are thinking about adding to the slot and letting him work out of the back field from time to time where are you going to squeeze him in between Welker, Branch, Tate, Edelman, Price, and Hernandez? Essentially that's Edelmans role right now.

    Also for the RB core I think the only reason we carried 5 backs going into the season was over concerns of the health of Maroney, Morris, and Taylor. They were pretty much justified as we have 3 active and 4 on the roster right now.  I think with a bunch of younger backs we will only need to carry 4 going forward. BJGE is finally starting to show flashes of a RB maturing so you aren't about to cut him lose or drop him to 4th in the depth chart. Woodhead seems like an ideal replacement for Faulk so as of right now you aren't going to dump him either. That leaves 1 player if you only dress 3 and have the 4th as depth on the 53 man roster. A elite back just doesn't fit if you want a FB in a role (which with our O I'm not sure a pure FB would justify the roster spot). That's why I'm not looking him for a #1 type back but more of a complimentary back that can fill the FB role but also the short yard back and the bruiser to soften up the defense type of back.
     
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    In Response to Re: 2011 Draft : There in lies the problem of adding to many people to the pot. If you are thinking about adding to the slot and letting him work out of the back field from time to time where are you going to squeeze him in between Welker, Branch, Tate, Edelman, Price, and Hernandez? Essentially that's Edelmans role right now.Also for the RB core I think the only reason we carried 5 backs going into the season was over concerns of the health of Maroney, Morris, and Taylor. They were pretty much justified as we have 3 active and 4 on the roster right now.  I think with a bunch of younger backs we will only need to carry 4 going forward. BJGE is finally starting to show flashes of a RB maturing so you aren't about to cut him lose or drop him to 4th in the depth chart. Woodhead seems like an ideal replacement for Faulk so as of right now you aren't going to dump him either. That leaves 1 player if you only dress 3 and have the 4th as depth on the 53 man roster. A elite back just doesn't fit if you want a FB in a role (which with our O I'm not sure a pure FB would justify the roster spot). That's why I'm not looking him for a #1 type back but more of a complimentary back that can fill the FB role but also the short yard back and the bruiser to soften up the defense type of back.
    Posted by PatsEng


    So you're telling me they are set at receiver and no one else can/would be brought in? 

    I'm also not ready to crown BJGE and Danny Woodhead as the future at their respective positions based on one game against Miami.  Both have looked good, but there are certainly upgrades available via the draft.

    To take it a step further, they currently have 5 backs on the roster, Taylor, Morris, BJGE, Woodhead and Thomas Clayton.  IMO, there's a good chance Taylor won't be back and Clayton appears to be roster depth at this point.  That leaves you BJGE, Morris and Woodhead, none of which I'd want as my fulltime #1, though BJGE might ultimately find a home as the #2.  Of those three, Morris has injury risks and hasn't seen the ball much and could conceivably be gone as well.  Either way, there should be room on the roster for an upgrade (draft or FA) and/or additional headcount. 

    A kid like Rodgers (and FB/LB Marecic) is valuable to a roster, especially a BB roster because of his versatility, his ability to contribute at multiple positions.
     
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    In Response to Re: 2011 Draft : Hey MB, Belicheck has passed on some pretty good RB over the years. Part of that is that they changed thier offensive phylosophy (after the downfield contact rules got enforced and morphed into a finesse team. The other is especially in the 1st 2 rounds he drafts "everydown players". Most young running backs struggle with learning thier pass protection responsibilities and thus are relagated to 1st and 2nd downs and 3rd and short. To me the issue with the Pat's running game starts with the personnel upfront. They've gone away from the punch you in the mouth ball control offense of the championship years with Smith and Dillion running behind some pretty nasty guys, grinding teams and killin the clock. Today they employ the spread offense with zone blocking scemes, dictating that we draft and develop a more athletic skill set and mobility from our OL guys, not unlike the style employed by Shanahan. The difference is Shanahan is commited to the run, Belicheck uses the short passing game (bubble screens etc). I think the chances of us drafting a RB in the 1st round is very low (unless a can't miss I don't belive he dropped this far type falls in our lap with our pick...the 2nd round he's more likely to, if there's a player on the board that fit's the criteria above.
    Posted by Beantowne


    Beantowne,
    I'm not sure I agree that they've changed their personnel philosophy when it comes to OL as most of their main guys joined the team prior to the 2007 remolding into a pass first/spread offense.  I also don't see a reason why Vollmer or the rest of their OL couldn't succeed in either scheme (pre/post 2007).

    Light- 10 years
    Mankins- Would be his 6th year
    Koppen- 8 years
    Neal- 9 years
    Kaczur- 6 years

    Also, the trading of Moss signifies a shift away from the circus offense and back to their ball control offense in which they spread the ball around, work the short, underneath and intermediate parts of the field while mixing in the run to balance things off.
     
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    In Response to Re: 2011 Draft : So you're telling me they are set at receiver and no one else can/would be brought in?  I'm also not ready to crown BJGE and Danny Woodhead as the future at their respective positions based on one game against Miami.  Both have looked good, but there are certainly upgrades available via the draft. To take it a step further, they currently have 5 backs on the roster, Taylor, Morris, BJGE, Woodhead and Thomas Clayton.  IMO, there's a good chance Taylor won't be back and Clayton appears to be roster depth at this point.  That leaves you BJGE, Morris and Woodhead, none of which I'd want as my fulltime #1, though BJGE might ultimately find a home as the #2.  Of those three, Morris has injury risks and hasn't seen the ball much and could conceivably be gone as well.  Either way, there should be room on the roster for an upgrade (draft or FA) and/or additional headcount.  A kid like Rodgers (and FB/LB Marecic) is valuable to a roster, especially a BB roster because of his versatility, his ability to contribute at multiple positions.
    Posted by mbeaulieu07


    Yes I'm saying they are currently set at the WR position. At least set enough to not want to spend a 3rd or higher pick on another player.

    They currently have 5 rb's 2 of which are Morris and Taylor. Taylor is currently hurt so I'm not counting him as part of the active roster just as a guy taking up a roster slot. Both of those guys are injury prone so yes you do need to have 2 players as insurance in case one gets hurt. What I'm saying is that if you didn't need 2 players but 1 player then you could add depth to say CB, Oline, LB, DL or maybe have a 3rd QB on your team. It's hard to argue that any of those couldn't use an extra guy verse the extra spot slotted for a RB.

    As for Woodhead and BJGE I'm not basing it off 1 game. BJGE has been progressing over the last couple seasons and his progression is very evident. You are right he'll never be a #1 but he'll be a damn good #2 which means you just need a complimentary back next to him not a true #1.

    With Woodhead I'm still in a wait and see mode. He's looked good and I'd like to see a full season before making a judgement but if he continues the way he's played the last 2 games I don't see why he couldn't be Faulk's replacement after this year.

    All I am saying is look at the current roster and rosters in the past. The only time in the entire BB era there has been a true #1 back that carried for over 1000yrds was the first year with Dillion. Now he was very effective but I think our O will be more effective with 3 500-800yrd backs and spending high picks on the lines then picking up another slot receiver and RB early.
     
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    Oakland's first rounder, hopefully in the top 5 or 6, goes to the baddest pass rusher available.  No way they take a RB there.   Maybe a corner or oline with the second first rounder.
     
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    I have been getting yelled at for two years calling for more touches for BJGE, I see a lot of good things when he touches the ball.  I honestly think with reps he will develop into a starting back, a work horse.

    mb I don't know there's a need to draft a FB this is why:
    Eric Kettani, will finish his military commitment next offseason.

    A Navy back in the 2009 NFL Draft? You bet! Eric Kettani started all of the Midshipmen's thirteen games in 2006 as a fullback, where he rushed for 229 yards on 53 attempts (4.3 avg) with a TD. In 2007, Kettani started five of thirteen games for Navy. He rushed for 880 yards on 152 carriers (5.8).

    Good frame, although he needs to add more weight and upper body strength. Powerful legs. Great leg drive. Tough to bring down. Runs with passion and determination. Find spaces between the tackles. A willing blocker who likes contact. Good set of soft hands. Slow (4.6). Limited athletic ability. Although he has good hands, his route running skills are underdeveloped. Needs more time in the weight room.

    Kettani is not as strong or physically impressive as other fullback prospects, but he has determination and runs very hard. Plus, he does have one of the softer sets of hands in the nation. A willing player, he will do anything to make a roster. He will probably www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/profile_display.cfm?prospect_id=1587#" class="GVAdLink">start off as a special teamer, but he has a future in the offensive backfield. Kettani has a chance to be selected late in the Draft. Even if he is by-passed, he will make an NFL roster because of his heart and desire.


     
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    I have been getting yelled at for two years calling for more touches for BJGE, I see a lot of good things when he touches the ball.  I honestly think with reps he will develop into a starting back, a work horse. mb I don't know there's a need to draft a FB this is why: Eric Kettani, will finish his military commitment next offseason. A Navy back in the 2009 NFL Draft? You bet! Eric Kettani started all of the Midshipmen's thirteen games in 2006 as a fullback, where he rushed for 229 yards on 53 attempts (4.3 avg) with a TD. In 2007, Kettani started five of thirteen games for Navy. He rushed for 880 yards on 152 carriers (5.8). Good frame, although he needs to add more weight and upper body strength. Powerful legs. Great leg drive. Tough to bring down. Runs with passion and determination. Find spaces between the tackles. A willing blocker who likes contact. Good set of soft hands. Slow (4.6). Limited athletic ability. Although he has good hands, his route running skills are underdeveloped. Needs more time in the weight room. Kettani is not as strong or physically impressive as other fullback prospects, but he has determination and runs very hard. Plus, he does have one of the softer sets of hands in the nation. A willing player, he will do anything to make a roster. He will probably www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/profile_display.cfm?prospect_id=1587# " class="GVAdLink" /> start off as a special teamer, but he has a future in the offensive backfield. Kettani has a chance to be selected late in the Draft. Even if he is by-passed, he will make an NFL roster because of his heart and desire.
    Posted by Pats7393


    Unlike most, I'm not as optimistic on BJGE as a long term solution as he's extremely limited as a player.  While he may provide value to the team as a complimentary RB, I don't see him as their #1. 

    Good call on Kettani though, It'll be interesting to see if there's a place for him in Foxboro.  Like Marecic, he's the kinda throw back player that I like.
     
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    In Response to Re: 2011 Draft : Unlike most, I'm not as optimistic on BJGE as a long term solution as he's extremely limited as a player.  While he may provide value to the team as a complimentary RB, I don't see him as their #1.  Good call on Kettani though, It'll be interesting to see if there's a place for him in Foxboro.  Like Marecic, he's the kinda throw back player that I like.
    Posted by mbeaulieu07


    He could be a nice addition in both the running game and another pass catcher.  He's a guy who would fit the direction the team is going.  young and fit that leader type Patriot way.  can't wait to see what he can do and if he makes enough of an impression to get on the roster.  i think if he does he'll get some touches and open holes for the RBs.
     
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    Re: 2011 Draft

    i'm not a big fan of breaking things down like that. These stats are too arbitrary and have nothing to be compared to. In general, I am of the belief that BB will take the player he feels will help the team the most. If it's a CB like Patrick Peterson, Prince Amukamara, or Brandon Harris, a RB, Ingram, or someone in the front 7 or WR. Who projected that the Pats would take Devin McCourty in the past draft? I for one was shocked and confused by the pick. Now though we would be in so much trouble without him.

     
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