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    Thanks guys.  I appreciate all the kind words.  A few observations...

    I've watched a ton of Auburn football this year as I'm sure most draftnicks have.  It is hard not to be blown away by Cam Newton.  Pay for play aside, why wouldn't he be considered the #1 pick?  I hope he goes to CAR number 1 because I don't want to face him twice a year.  BUF could take him, they signed TO afterall.  Newton is instant offense and just scary good.

    Lee Ziemba is a better LT than people give him credit.  Maybe he'd be a nice option in the 3rd, move him to RT and Vollmer to LT. 

    I have only seen part of one Baylor game.  Anyone have an opinion if LT Danny Watkins, 6-4, 310, 5.17 would be a nice candidate for LG, assuming Mankins leaves?  BB loves versatile linesmen.  Watkins has the perfect size for a BB guard and he is fast!!  I'm still high on Moffitt and Schilling for LG, just looking for other options.  Watkins might be around in the 3-4 round.
     
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    Hey guys.  New to site, great draft info. here!  Just wanted to chip in on Titus Young.  I live in the NW, and see quite a few BSU games.  This kid is worth taking a shot on, preferably 3rd round or later.  Top end speed, seems to run soild routes, and has shown great hands.  Plays bigger than his small frame.
    Posted by Wazzu-wheatfarmer

    Titus Young has been getting a lot of play here.  He is a talent, but Mb pointed out he has some off-the-field issues, unsure how serious they are.  Seems to me this draft could be loaded with WR talent.  If Broyles comes out as rumored he would have to be considered a first round talent.  If Blackmon, Green, Jones, Floyd and Baldwin all declare this would be a sick draft for WRs.
     
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    Hey guys.  New to site, great draft info. here!  Just wanted to chip in on Titus Young.  I live in the NW, and see quite a few BSU games.  This kid is worth taking a shot on, preferably 3rd round or later.  Top end speed, seems to run soild routes, and has shown great hands.  Plays bigger than his small frame.
    Posted by Wazzu-wheatfarmer


    Welcome to the thread.
     
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    Faucet .. your info continues to amaze me....thanks   Mex you are absolutely right about Fairly as dirty as they come... a ton of late hits too. Newton is a beast. The good news to me is that he has to have moved up in the draft and pushed Watt down one place maybe we have a shot at him , it is goin to be close. How did Watt play Sat?
     
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    I am really hoping every good QB comes out that can this year.  There are a ton of QB needy teams, as usual, and that can push several great players in our direction. 

    The more I see of Kerrigan OLB, the more and more I like him.  The more I also think we will need to use the Oak pick on him. Obviously it depends on how they finish out the season, but I dont think our pick will land him anymore. 
     
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    Agree with Faucet on assessment of Newton with one caveat you can't run draws and option plays all day against a good NFL defense. Also agree with the potential for this to be a good year for WRs if some players declare. I could see the Pats take Floyd with the high 2nd. We had plenty of love for Golden Tate last year, Why no love for Floyd this year ? (pro-style offense etc......)

    Appreciate all Faucet and MB and others have done. Still hoping for an SD blowout versus Raiders and subsequent collapse (6-10, 7-9). Really like the 2nd round Panther pick (OT or OG or WR).
     
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    Agree with Faucet on assessment of Newton with one caveat you can't run draws and option plays all day against a good NFL defense. Also agree with the potential for this to be a good year for WRs if some players declare. I could see the Pats take Floyd with the high 2nd. We had plenty of love for Golden Tate last year, Why no love for Floyd this year ? (pro-style offense etc......) Appreciate all Faucet and MB and others have done. Still hoping for an SD blowout versus Raiders and subsequent collapse (6-10, 7-9). Really like the 2nd round Panther pick (OT or OG or WR).
    Posted by JohnHannahrulz


    JHr,
    I, for one, like Floyd a lot as a player, he's big, good hands, has some decent quicks (though BB generally prefers elite speed, quickness and agility in his WR's) and speed, will go over the middle, good ball skills and will provide a red zone presence, has some big play ability, will get dirty as a blocker and will take a team on his shoulders.  I think he's an option for them in Rds 2 or 3 assuming he declares.  He's at the very least a good possession guy at the NFL level, IMO.

    I just think there's more love for Julio at this point, for good reason.
     
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    Agree with Faucet on assessment of Newton with one caveat you can't run draws and option plays all day against a good NFL defense. Also agree with the potential for this to be a good year for WRs if some players declare. I could see the Pats take Floyd with the high 2nd. We had plenty of love for Golden Tate last year, Why no love for Floyd this year ? (pro-style offense etc......) Appreciate all Faucet and MB and others have done. Still hoping for an SD blowout versus Raiders and subsequent collapse (6-10, 7-9). Really like the 2nd round Panther pick (OT or OG or WR).
    Posted by JohnHannahrulz

    Hog,

    I think Newton in Buffalo with CJ Spiller could be scary.  I agree he won't be running as many draws or options in the NFL but when you're the 25th ranked offense a 6-5, 250 lb QB that can throw and run the way Newton does can make an immediate impact.  Newton is pretty much the whole Auburn offense.

    Buffalo is also last in stopping the run which would make a case for Fairley.  Fairley is a dirty player, no doubt about it, but I don't think it affects his draft status.  Rodney Harrison was considered a dirty player too but we still love him. 
    Talking about WR, I was a bit surprised Julio Jones wasn't a finalist for the Belinikoff Award.  The three finalists are:  Ryan Broyles - Oklahoma,  Alshon Jeffery - South Carolina, and Justin Blackmon - Oklahoma State.  I can understand Green not being a finalist since he missed 4 games. 
     
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    Faucet .. your info continues to amaze me....thanks   Mex you are absolutely right about Fairly as dirty as they come... a ton of late hits too. Newton is a beast. The good news to me is that he has to have moved up in the draft and pushed Watt down one place maybe we have a shot at him , it is goin to be close. How did Watt play Sat?
    Posted by max5344

    Thanks Max.  Wisconsin didn't play, they don't have a title game.  They won their conference based on their BCS standing winning the three-way tie with Ohio State and Michigan State.  They are off until the Rose Bowl where they will face TCU.

    I watched the Nebraska/Oklahoma game yesterday and here are my observations.

    OKLAHOMA
    Jeremey Beal - I didn't see much of anything out of him.  He was often doubled when lined up as DE.  I wasn't keying on him, just didn't hear his name called or see him in on many plays.

    Ryan Broyles- 3 catches for 61 yards including a nice crossing route that he nearly took to the house getting past Hagg.  He was quiet in the punt return game due in large part to Henery's booming punts.

    DeMarco Murray- 17/68 a 4.0 average with a long of 12.  Murray was best when running the ball to the outside.  It seemed like every time he tried to take it inside he was immediately stuffed.  As a receiver he was 5/60 with a long of 19.  Again, I think Murray translates as a 3rd down back in the NFL.  He isn't going to give you much pounding the rock.  He is dangerous out of the backfield and can be successful on sweeps and draws as a runner.  To me, this makes him a 2nd round pick, at best.

    NEBRASKA
    Roy Helu, Jr.- He started strong with a 66 yard TD scamper in the first.  After that he was 10/25 and was a non factor.

    Ricky Henry- He missed several blocks today, either missing his man completely or getting to the block late in the run game.  In the pass game, Martinez was under duress the whole second half and Henry was often pushed back into the QB.  I was not impressed with him or the Nebraska OL today.  In fairness though, Martinez held the ball too long, too often as he really struggled finding people open.  He cleared missed Niles Paul.

    Jared Crick- He had a really nice game.  He got a sack and several hurries that I saw.  He was often doubled and when he wasn't he usually beat the LG and came through and was disruptive. There was a stretch late in the game when Nebraska was trying to get the ball back down 3 where Crick on three straight plays came up big forcing a punt.

    Prince Amukamara- I was a bit disappointed with his play today.  Nebraska had Oklahoma with a 3rd and 24 and Amukamara gave up a 23 yard reception to Cameron Kenney - who doesn't have a future in the NFL.  This enabled OKLA to go for it on 4th down and Kenney again caught a pass against Amukamara.  I think Kenney caught three balls in a row against Prince.  Prince did have a couple of nice hits.  Prince is a solid tackler and is 5th on his team but he doesn't have an interception this year so I'm not so sure why all the hype for this kid.  Yes he is tall, and tough but not particularly fast from what I saw and his coverage skills were lacking in this game.

    Alex Henery- I know we don't need a kicker, assuming Gostkowski fully recovers from his injury but this kid is impressive.  Virtually every kick off was a touch back.  He was 2/2 on FG with a long of 53.  His long of the season is 57 and he is 18/19 which is among the best percentages in college football.  Henery is also the punter.  He ranks 24th in the country with a 43.86 average.  I don't have anything that suggests his hang time but he booms his punts.  Broyles had 5 punt returns for just 22 yards with a long of 17 meaning 4 punts were returned an average of 1 yard.  I have no doubt this kid could be the K and P for some team saving them a roster spot.





     
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    I'd trade the Oakland pick for Drew Bledsoe.
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    I was very impressed with Jeffery from S Carolina but havent seen too much about him as far as where he would go.
     
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    Every player the Patriots picked were mentioned on these Patriots' draft threads. Some even predicted the McCourty pick.
     
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    In Response to Re: 2011 Patriots Draft Options ***UPDATED WITH MOCK V1*** : And how much bandwidth does it take to mention ALL of them?
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    In Response to Re: 2011 Patriots Draft Options ***UPDATED WITH MOCK V1*** : What don't you UNDERSTAND about these sentences: "I don't do wet chemistry.  I don't work with chemicals.  I don't work in a wet chemical lab."?
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    People here disagree with that
     
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    In Response to Re: 2011 Patriots Draft Options ***UPDATED WITH MOCK V1*** : Titus Young has been getting a lot of play here.  He is a talent, but Mb pointed out he has some off-the-field issues, unsure how serious they are.  Seems to me this draft could be loaded with WR talent.  If Broyles comes out as rumored he would have to be considered a first round talent.  If Blackmon, Green, Jones, Floyd and Baldwin all declare this would be a sick draft for WRs.
    Posted by Faucetman

    Titus Young was suspended for most of the season 2 years ago during his sophmore year. It was unclear what the reason was. The team was pretty tight lipped about it. I don't think he has had any major issues since. But it will all be fully investigated before the draft.
     
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    2011 NFL Draft Order

    The 2011 NFL Draft Order page is updated after each week of the NFL season until the 2011 NFL Draft.

    Updated 2011 NFL Draft Order after Week 12 of the 2011 NFL Season. Ties are broken based on weaker strength of schedule.

    1. Carolina Panthers (1-10)
    2. Detroit Lions (2-9)
    3. Cincinnati Bengals (2-9)
    4. Buffalo Bills (2-9)
    5. Arizona Cardinals (3-8)
    6. Dallas Cowboys (3-8)
    7. Denver Broncos (3-8)
    8. San Francisco 49ers (4-7)
    9. Minnesota Vikings (4-7)
    10. Cleveland Browns (4-7)
    11. St. Louis Rams (5-6)
    12. Oakland Raiders (NWE) (5-6)
    13. Seattle Seahawks (5-6)
    14. Washington Redskins (5-6)
    15. Tennessee Titans (5-6)
    16. Houston Texans (5-6)
    17. San Diego Chargers (6-5)
    18. Indianapolis Colts (6-5)
    19. Miami Dolphins (6-5)
    20. Jacksonville Jaguars (6-5)
    21. Kansas City Chiefs (7-4)
    22. New York Giants (7-4)
    23. Tampa Bay Bucs (7-4)
    24. Philadelphia Eagles (7-4)
    25. Green Bay Packers (7-4)
    26. New Orleans Saints (8-3)
    27. Chicago Bears (8-3)
    28. Baltimore Ravens (8-3)
    29. Pittsburgh Steelers (8-3)
    30. New York Jets (9-2)
    31. Atlanta Falcons (9-2)
    32. New England Patriots (9-2)

     
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    Some has earned a spot on ignore, anyone care to guess who?  If they stop channeling Leon let me know and I will return to reading what they have to say.
     
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