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when i first came out with my analysis of the patriots and their needs after teh loss to ny, after dumping obrian, the top need i had was pass rush (including de and olb). my recommendation was robert quinn or dareus (in a fantasy world both) . as olb can give us somewhat better pass rush, though i advocated then de first in importance, i think our first move should be to move up and get the guy at olb who will help us change the game. bb probably can steal a gem
at de later, who hopefully will be an "a" talent.
now my idea of quinn was shot down by many here (and nobody till more recently spoke up for quinn). some cited him (and an evaluator who did the same) as a 4th round prospect. hey i'm not an expert. i go by what is see and feel. however many evaluators including a guy who scouted for kansas city, philly, washington and prime sports has quinn as belonging with his ability in the top 6. bunting has him aas teh 5th best player an 8.0 (only 3 rated as 8.5 peterson, greene and jones), and as the clear best pass rusher in the draft.
"Possesses a tall, long-armed frame with good overall muscle tone and girth through his lower half. Coils up well into his stance and does a good job maximizing his first step off the football up the field. At times doesn't sit into his stance as well as he could, but got the most part plays with good bend. Get his hands up very quickly off the snap and knows how to use his length to initially slip blocks on contact. However, he looks much more natural at this stage using his hands to shed blocks in the pass game than vs. the run.
In the pass game, he does a great job working a jab step inside and instantly exploding toward the outside edge, maintaining his balance and accelerating toward the quarterback as well as any pass rusher in college football. Showcases impressive natural body control when asked to flatten out around the corner and looks natural dropping his shoulder and working a powerful and compact swat to keep himself clean. Has a good -not great- first step that allows him to consistently threaten the outside and turn the corner. Is very efficient and savvy when asked to change directions and work the inside stunt. However, he needs to do a better job getting off the snap count on time, as he too often is the last defensive lineman moving off the ball — that should improve with more experience. Even so, the guy plays with a motor that runs non-stop, and because of his range and length, he rarely stays blocked for long.
Against the run game, he needs to do a better job playing with a lower pad level initially off the snap since he too often gets high out of his stance and can be jolted backward on contact. However, because he's so long and sudden, he consistently is able to slip the block and close on the football after the initial jolt. He also needs to continue to work on
his hand placement vs. the run game, especially when asked to set the edge. Although he does, for the most part, do a pretty good job remaining disciplined and staying at home with backside contain, he struggles to consistently gain initial leverage on contact when asked to take on blocks. His hands end up on the outside shoulders of opposing linemen
where he can be steered away from the ball. But he does work hard to fight his way off blocks and has the kind of range to close from the backside and consistently make plays in pursuit.
Missed the 2010 season for his involvement in the agent scandal, accepting illegitimate gifts on his behalf. Also, underwent brain surgery as a senior in high school for a benign tumor and made a full recovery and is a two-time defending state champ in wrestling.
Impression: Simply put was the best pass-rushing defensive end I saw in the country in 2009. Needs to check out from a character standpoint, but all the tools are there for him to mature into one the best pass rushers to come out of this class and an impact guy off the edge if he can put 2010 behind him and develop."
at our position of the worst need, we can afford to use a few valuable bullets to get the #1 need filled by a game-changer (and a few other game-changers for that matter, we have 9 bullets, plus next years if necessary). and by the end of the draft we can get all the players we need now (so they can gain experience enough to try for a couple super bowls in the next 3 years-while brady is still at the top of his game).
this was my analysis on doomsday (much more detailed though).
in the past week alone, i have heard patriots analysts and non-analysts when mocking the draft make the same comments with a question as to whether they (patriots) will do it (draft up for the game-changer they need in the first).
if not quinn,
aldon smith is the next most devastating pass rusher rated by many (i know faucet has miller, and maybe he is, but i have heard and read analysts say he was neutralized by better tackles easily/dominated)
bunting on smith: 8th best player 7.5 rating
A tall, extremely long-armed defensive lineman with an athletic-looking frame and impressive explosion in all areas of his game. Possesses natural bend when asked to sit into his stance, coils up well and consistently takes a positive first step off the line and does a nice job keeping his pad level down off the football. Is a bit inconsistent extending his arms into blocks when run at and at times seems content to simply drop his shoulder and drive his way toward the football. However, seems to really have good instincts when asked to find the football and is very violent with his arms when asked to shed blocks. At times will allow defenders to gain leverage under him and can be initially driven off the ball. But, fights hard in order to disengage, uses his length and violent hands well to shed and possesses impressive closing range in pursuit. Is also very sudden and fluid for his size and has the footwork/balance to cleanly side step defenders who are trying to get into his frame, keep himself clean and close quickly on the ball carrier. Breaks down well in space and uses his long pterodactyl-like arms to wrap on his man.
Is a gifted pass rusher who fires off the snap quickly and has a real savvy about his game getting after the quarterback. Plays from both a three- and four-point stance and does a great job quickly getting into the pad level of opposing linemen in the bull rush and initially driving them into the backfield. Allows his pad level to rise, which negates some of his strength when trying to finish, but is long enough to shed. Does a nice job using his long arms and violent hands in order to keep himself clean, loves to work the club to the outside, slowly playing it off the snap before accelerating past the tackle. He also has impressive lateral fluidity in balance working the inside arm over and club off his speed rush in order to cleanly side step blocks and accelerate toward the quarterback. Allows his pad level to get upright again once he gains a step and can be slowed through contact, but the motor seems to run well all the time. Has the ability to drop his pad level when flattening out around the edge once he gains a step, but doesn't often simply work the speed rush to the corner, likes to change gears and directions in order to reach the QB.
Also, is a bear to block inside as a down defensive tackle, played some three-technique and has the first step to shoot gaps inside, but it's his lateral suddenness and length that allows him to consistently slip blocks inside and accelerate toward the quarterback.
Missed some time in 2010 with a fractured fibula in a non-weight bearing bone in his leg and will need to check out medically.
Impression: A downright dominant defensive lineman with an impressive physical skill set and great length. Showcases impress savvy, fluidity and violence as a pass rusher and should be able to further develop in the run game and mature into a potential Pro Bowl-caliber NFL defensive lineman.
interestingly bunting has jordan as the 10th best player; 7.5 and much better than watt at de 27th best player 7.0 and behind heyward, clayborn and bowers (who he has 16th)