Re: 2011 Patriots Draft Options ***WITH NEW MOCK***
posted at 1/14/2011 10:04 AM EST
In Response to Re: 2011 Patriots Draft Options ***WITH NEW MOCK***
[QUOTE]I assume this post was aimed at a comment I made? My point was we are the best team in football. We have a pretty stable roster already for 2011 with Mankins and Light the only big question marks. Could we improve the team, absolutely but I'd bet we'd be pretty competitive next year even if we didn't have a draft. " We aren't drafting for need, we're drafting for depth" Who is our starting right OLB ? Cunningham backed up by TBC Who is our Starting DL besides Vince W ? Ty Warren and Deaderick. We may resign G. Warren too if we don't draft anyone. How many of our RB will be back next year ? Woodhead and BJGE are locks to be back. Faulk thinks he's coming back but he likely be forced into retirement as will Taylor. Morris might have a year left. In a limited role he held up this season. I look for us to add a F/A RB or draft one in round 3 or later. In any event, Woody and BJGE will get the bulk of the carries. I don't see any reason to change it. How many OL will be back next year ? This is the million dollar question. I think Mankins will be tagged and hopefully a long term deal can be reached. If not, he will be tagged and traded if possible, if not possible, tagged and played for one more year. I don't see the Pats just letting him walk without some kind of fight or compensation. If Mankins is tagged, Light would be the odd man out unless he is happy for a 1-2 year deal in the $4-5MM range. If the answers of those questions does not make you feel THE URGENT NEED TO IMPROVE THIS TEAM AT SOME KEY POSITIONS... i don´t know what will. Yes, the pats won 14 games in the regular season, and maybe they will win it all this year... but that does not hide the reality at some positions... We still haven´t found nobody that can generate some decent Pass Rush... BJGE & WOODY are great, but are they the 1-2 punch to build around ? The Dline lacks of playmakers (besides VW) In my opinion WE NEED to get this: #1.- DL (Draft pick) #2.- LB (FA or trade) #3.- RB (Draft pick & FA or trade) #4.- OL (Draft pick & FA or Trade) #5.- CB (FA or trade) #6.- WR (FA or trade) I really like the Wisniewski pick somewhere in the 17-33 range. He solves all of our interior OL issues for years to come. If Mankins leaves after this season, we plug and play him at LG. If Mankins stays, he battles Connolly for the RG spot. Both Connolly and Koppen are set to be free agents after the 2011 season so Wisniewski won't have to wait long to get a starting job as there are multiple doors that could open for him. He'd also be the first off the bench of our interior line stays the same for 2011. If we miss out on him, than I think we are looking at a pure OG somewhere at or after pick 64. Yes, I do like the idea of DL with one of those top 3 picks. There are a ton of options that make sense, Watt, Jordan, Heyward, Ballard, Wilkerson, Clayborn, etc, but I also think there is a big possibility that BB doesn't take any with his top 3 picks. I say that because we have a lot of young players at the position. We are already carrying 1 more than normal. With Ty coming back, we will either have to say goodbye to G. Warren, Mike Wright or one of the young players. I was surprised we didn't address the position last year until the 7th round given the depth in the draft and the loss of Seymour so nothing would surprise me. I think Safety is a huge need area and I would put WR up there too but there is a lot of decent talent later on the board at WR. There are no elite safeties. Maybe one sneaks into the first round but I think round 2 is the place to look.
Posted by Faucetman[/QUOTE]
I agree with most of this post...tons of questions along both the OL and DL. I was pleasantly surprised how GWarren played this year. I wonder if he has another good year or two left in him? If so, I would extend him immediately. I'm good with GWarren, VW and TWarren as our 3-4 line. I like it alot in fact. After that, you have Brace (which i think he is showing signs of possibly a good player to be), Pryor (like him in our 4 man line, good penetration and plays with aggression), Love (no opinion on him yet) Mike Wright (good role player), Deaderick (showed signs of potential, especially as a 7th round pick)...
If I am missing someone, please let me know...but, based on the above, I still think there is a spot for a DL to be drafted high, regardless of whetehr or not GWarren comes back. In fact, I would carry 1 more DL than normal, and only carry 3-4 RB's to make room. If GWarren is signed, I would either let Deaderick or Love go, probably Deaderick because Love can spell VW at NG in a pinch and is bit more versatile for me. Same can be said of GWarren..can play DE and NT.
How about this going into next season (8 DL)
GWarren, VW, TWarren (starters)
Brace, Cameron Jordan/JJ Watt, Pryor, Wright, Love
I like the possibilitites and versatility with the above group. We can mix it up effectively with both 3 and 4 man lines, decent depth at all positions....
on the RB situation....Count me as one sold on BJGE and Woodhead as the 1-2 punch. Keep Morris because he has ST and provides depth, let Taylor walk, Faulk...not sure just yet, and I would draft a later round RB with size/bulk who can pound it on short down and distance and with good ST value...
Has anyone seen any RB's that could go in round 3-4 with good size (north of 230) and are ST aces?