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    I live out in CA now, how is Mark Herzlich looking?  From what I read he's back physically.  If he has a great season and there is no fear of the cancer returning I'd consider him in the late 1st or early 2nd.  He was a beast as a sophomore.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: 2011 Patriots Draft Options : i don't think we'd draft a QB in the first roound, they would want playing time instead of being an understudy. guys like Locker, Mallett and even Luck are ready to come in next year and start, like Ryan did in Atlanta. But one of these days BB will have to draft someone to replace TB in 4 years.
    Posted by kansaspatriot[/QUOTE]

    Did you read my post or jump to conclusions?  My hopes were for a couple of QBs to go high where QB hungry teams would draft them pushing high picks down giving the Pats more of a selection.
     
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    I actually like Julio Jones. The thing I can't get out of my head is how much Peterson owns him. It's part testament to Peterson, but I wonder what he would look like against NFL elite corners then. It makes me not want to spend such a high selection on him. If NE trades down and he is hanging around, it would be more attractive. 

    I think Cameron Heyward might be "that guy." He looks a little thin to me. But 6'5" 290 is impressive with his speed/athleticism. He can really rush the passer, I just wonder how he could anchor a tackle and guard if he needed to.

    At the same time, NE won't get a crack at him, but he could be the best option up top if he is there for some reason. 
     
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    Another guy worth thinking about is Christian Ballard. He could be a swing pick on the edge of the second and first. His size is almost ideal. 
     
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    [QUOTE]Now down to business.  I didn't read every post on this thread but skimmed every one.  Our biggest needs IMO heading into 2011 are:  #1 OLB   We have nothing here.  Cunningham was a 4th round talent that we reached for.  Ninkovich is a back up.  TBC is a 3rd down pass rushing specialist and Crable can't find his way out of the infirmary.  Dane Fletcher has more upside than any of these guys, IMO.  But can anyone argue this isn't our top need?
    Cunningham 4th round talent?  I didn't see that way.  A low 2nd rounder to high 3rd but not a 4th rounder.  Regardless of how I disagree with you on Cunningham the Pats need help here and still should rank as a #1 overall need making my little rant moot.
    #2 RB   We don't have anyone signed past 2010.  Taylor and Faulk will likely retire.  Morris could re-sign but he can't stay healthy.  BJGE will be restricted so he's the only safe bet to return.  That said, don't bank on BB taking a RB in the first round.  The only time he did was Maroney and that didn't work out too great.  Still if Ingram declares and is sitting there with that Raider pick, it would sure be tempting.
    I don't see why one fail would scare BB off.  The Oakland pick will be probably used on a defensive player.  Outside of Ingram right now I'm not familiar with the RBs in the draft. 
    #3 OG   Mankins is gone, Neal is signed thru 2011 but is a threat to retire or get injured.  Connolly looks ready to fill one of the guard spots.  Ohrnberger can't be impressing because he was waived then resigned to the PS.  Ojinnaka was just waived so we have no depth here.  A C/OG like Pouncey, as many have suggested on this thread, is not a bad idea with our #1 or the CAR high 2nd.
    I don't see this as a high need.  I say put Kaczur at guard.  He was terrible at OT.  Koppen is playing well but I do see a need in the future for an atheletic center that can take on those NTs.  It's just not high on my list at this time.
    #4 OT   Matt Light is a free agent and will want a raise.  Can't see it, he's already the third highest paid player behind Brady and Moss.  Vollmer can move to LT once Kazcur returns but we have zero depth behind them.  I really like Vollmer on the right side so finding a stud LT could be a first round consideration in 2011.
    Although I think Light will resign this is a need.  Very thin here and I don't want Kaczur playing OT any more. 
    #5 DE   Ty Warren making a full recover is key.  Ron Brace is starting to flash a little at the position but if the next Richard Seymour can be found I wouldn't hesitate pulling the trigger early in the draft.  Everything starts up front.  G. Warren is a F/A, Pryor, Wright and Deaderick?  Don't see any Pro Bowls in their futures.
    I'm in a quandary here.  My thinking is with the two Warrens and Wilfork the front three don't look too shabby but with the Oakland pick and the high number of DEs I can't help but think this is where we are going. 
    #6 WR   If Moss leaves, our need at WR could move up but the Pats just don't draft WR often and seldom high.  In the end I think Moss stays.  The team loves him, he loves the team and Brady.  If he stays he could break some records some though impossible, like 197 TD (Rice).
    I would like to see Moss stay but I wonder where the Pats are on this.  Is Moss wanting too much money forcing the Pats to look elsewhere?  A couple of real nice WRs in Green and Jones will be tempting I'm sure.
    #7 S   McGowan's future is uncertain.  Meriweather lost his starting job (last week).  Sanders is far from great.  Chung is starting to look like the real deal.  A solid FS is needed. We have 7 picks in the top ~ 122, 4 in the top 54.  So, we can address each of the above needs before getting out of the 4th round. I'm not listing CB as a top need at this point.  I think Bodden/McCourty make a solid pair.  Spending a high pick on a CB I would only consider if Peterson is still on the board at #5.  Right now I have Patrick Peterson ranked #2 in the draft.  I am not suggesting, as others have, that Peterson is the next Darrelle Revis, he's 2 inches shorter but getting him would certainly give us a very deep and talented secondary.
    A 220lb+ CB would be nice to have.  But like the DE it's not a top need but you know that's where BB will probably go.  I hate the thought of going after a safety.
    I'll be back soon with my way-too-early mock. 
    Posted by Faucetman[/QUOTE]

    My list of needs are OLB, RB and OT. 



     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: 2011 Patriots Draft Options : Pats, I would love to take a stud DE/DT type if we're at 5 or in the top 10.  I considered Kerrigan with our pick ~22 but not sold on him as an OLB.  Keep your eyes on Akeem Ayers out of UCLA if he declares.  I think Kerrigan is a 43 DE.  I'm not sure he can drop into coverage.  Patrick Peterson is the only defender I'm sold on for sure in the top 10.  Cameron Heyward, maybe.  Most of the DL types worthy of top 10 consideration are 43 ends like Bailey, Bowers and Clayborn.  That is why I went to the offensive side of the ball. Again, Juniors might not come out given the labor status.  That would really hurt the draft.  We can forget about Ingram too if that happens.  I'd almost rather have DeMarco Murray if we are taking a RB that high anyway.  Murray is an every down back.  I don't think Ingram can hold up carrying the ball 20 times.  I would then go after Noel Devine a little later on as our 3rd down back.  He could be had with our CAR pick or hopefully our own 2nd.  There are a couple of OTs that will emerge that we should consider.  If we lose Light, we'd be pretty thin there.
    Posted by Faucetman[/QUOTE]

    Faucet,
    Welcome back, man.  I've read some good press on Ayers as a versatile player that is instinctive, strong at the POA, effective off the edge, vs the run and has experience in coverage .  He also has the size/length (6-4 255) that BB places value in.

    As far as RB goes I disagree with your assessment of Ingram.  Ingram is a proven commodity as both an between the tackles hammer and catching the ball out of the back field.  He also has multiple 50+ yard TD's to his credit which shows some big play explosiveness to his game. 
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: 2011 Patriots Draft Options : Faucet, Welcome back, man.  I've read some good press on Ayers as a versatile player that is instinctive, strong at the POA, effective off the edge, vs the run and has experience in coverage .  He also has the size/length (6-4 255) that BB places value in. As far as RB goes I disagree with your assessment of Ingram.  Ingram is a proven commodity as both an between the tackles hammer and catching the ball out of the back field.  He also has multiple 50+ yard TD's to his credit which shows some big play explosiveness to his game. 
    Posted by mbeaulieu07[/QUOTE]

    I like Ayers too, but in round 2. I've actually seen him line up as an OLB, ILB and DE in UCLA's various schemes. Good ability to set edge, drop into coverage and shed blocks. 

     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: 2011 Patriots Draft Options : I like Ayers too, but in round 2. I've actually seen him line up as an OLB, ILB and DE in UCLA's various schemes. Good ability to set edge, drop into coverage and shed blocks. 
    Posted by PatsLifer[/QUOTE]

    PL,
    I've actually read a reputable draftnik that thinks he could be "one of if not the first backer selected in the 2011 draft."

    I actually just watched some tape on Ayers (from last season), kid lines up all over the field (in the slot, off tackle, in the middle).  He played almost exclusively from a two point stance showing the ability to set the edge vs run, stack and shed his man to make a play as well as some decent awareness in coverage though he did get sucked into the flow of the play on a couple of occassions instead of staying home resulting in some decent gains for the offense.  Overall, he looks like an active player with good speed and athleticism for the postion. 
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: 2011 Patriots Draft Options : Faucet, Welcome back, man.  I've read some good press on Ayers as a versatile player that is instinctive, strong at the POA, effective off the edge, vs the run and has experience in coverage .  He also has the size/length (6-4 255) that BB places value in. As far as RB goes I disagree with your assessment of Ingram.  Ingram is a proven commodity as both an between the tackles hammer and catching the ball out of the back field.  He also has multiple 50+ yard TD's to his credit which shows some big play explosiveness to his game. 
    Posted by mbeaulieu07[/QUOTE]
    Hi Mb,

    I usually just post on draft related topics rather than the every day stuff.  I'm a huge Ingram fan and would be delighted but shocked if we took him assuming he declares.  Taking a RB high just hasn't been something BB does.

    I have to say watching Woodhead the last two games I'm starting to wonder if he's our next Faulk.  He's more like a Welker coming out of the back field.  I like the way BJGE is running too.  He's decisive, hits the hole and moves the pile.  Perhaps we pick up a F/A or two next year to pair with these two guys and don't draft a RB high at all.  That has seemed to be our tendancy.

    What worries me most as I've stated is most junior won't declare given the uncertain labor situation.  The deadline to declare is when, Feb/Mar?  A new CBA won't likely happen until much closer to the start of the season if it happens before the season.  Since so many talented juniors came out last year and few will likely come out this year, it could be a very weak draft made up mostly of seniors who stayed in.  Even if there is a rookie cap, it might be wise to trade back and out a bit again. 
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: 2011 Patriots Draft Options : Hi Mb, I usually just post on draft related topics rather than the every day stuff.  I'm a huge Ingram fan and would be delighted but shocked if we took him assuming he declares.  Taking a RB high just hasn't been something BB does. I have to say watching Woodhead the last two games I'm starting to wonder if he's our next Faulk.  He's more like a Welker coming out of the back field.  I like the way BJGE is running too.  He's decisive, hits the hole and moves the pile.  Perhaps we pick up a F/A or two next year to pair with these two guys and don't draft a RB high at all.  That has seemed to be our tendancy. What worries me most as I've stated is most junior won't declare given the uncertain labor situation.  The deadline to declare is when, Feb/Mar?  A new CBA won't likely happen until much closer to the start of the season if it happens before the season.  Since so many talented juniors came out last year and few will likely come out this year, it could be a very weak draft made up mostly of seniors who stayed in.  Even if there is a rookie cap, it might be wise to trade back and out a bit again. 
    Posted by Faucetman[/QUOTE]

    I agree that it could be a weaker draft than people think but also that the CBA will get resolved over the summer.

    No Ingram is no biggie IMO if we get a solid FA as you said. I like the idea of signing DeAngelo Williams or Jamaal Charles.

    They both have that big play ability Green-Ellis may lack. BB loves to ride one back for an entire series and then switch to another. I can see BJGE moving that pile a workmanlike 5 yards at a time one series while Williams or Charles may mostly avg 3-4 yards, but bust out a 12-18 yard run 1-2x a game and a nice 30+ run every other game.

    Woodhead can replace Faulk as a shifty runner from the backfield and Hernandez as that safety blanket pass catcher who will always get you the qucik 5 yard out, and if a slow LB is on him, turn it into a dozen.

     
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    [QUOTE]I agree with a lot of the posts, But I would be kind of bummed if the Pats Pass on Ingram if he is still available with their first pick..
    Posted by reegz04[/QUOTE]


    not that i want the pats to take a rb before their second 2nd rounder, but if they do take an rb, i'd rather have james from oregon. he has the shiftiness to make a lot of guys whiff, enough power to break tackles in the nfl and speed of a consistent homerun threat.  oh did i mention fearless? if you like jackson of STL, i think this guy is better.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: 2011 Patriots Draft Options : I agree that it could be a weaker draft than people think but also that the CBA will get resolved over the summer. No Ingram is no biggie IMO if we get a solid FA as you said. I like the idea of signing DeAngelo Williams or Jamaal Charles. They both have that big play ability Green-Ellis may lack. BB loves to ride one back for an entire series and then switch to another. I can see BJGE moving that pile a workmanlike 5 yards at a time one series while Williams or Charles may mostly avg 3-4 yards, but bust out a 12-18 yard run 1-2x a game and a nice 30+ run every other game. Woodhead can replace Faulk as a shifty runner from the backfield and Hernandez as that safety blanket pass catcher who will always get you the qucik 5 yard out, and if a slow LB is on him, turn it into a dozen.
    Posted by rameakap[/QUOTE]
    A CBA getting done next summer is still after the draft in April and long after the deadline for juniors to declare which I learned is Jan 15.  In talking to some people, most think the CBA won't affect too many juniors wanting to declare so maybe the draft will be deep.  I agree with everything else you said.

    For everyone, now that Moss is gone, my idea of taking a tall WR at the Raider's spot looks more possible.  We should be able to land AJ Green or Julius Jones if the Raiders continue to struggle.  I would take either in a heartbeat.


     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: 2011 Patriots Draft Options : not that i want the pats to take a rb before their second 2nd rounder, but if they do take an rb, i'd rather have james from oregon. he has the shiftiness to make a lot of guys whiff, enough power to break tackles in the nfl and speed of a consistent homerun threat.  oh did i mention fearless? if you like jackson of STL, i think this guy is better.
    Posted by seattlepat70[/QUOTE]

    sp70,
    James (only a sophmore) is electric with the ball in his hands and a threat to score from anywhere on the field,  but he's only listed at 5-9 185, which means he's probably smaller than that while Steven Jackson is a legit 6-1+ and 235 pounds.  I don't see James having a career as a between the tackles back in the NFL, legit change of pace/homerun potential though.
     
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    Steven jackson could be a FA this year.
    according to his contract:

    8/21/2008: Signed a six-year, $44.805 million contract.

    The deal contains $20.5 million guaranteed, including an $11.395 million signing bonus.

    Another $4.495 million is available through incentives. He must average 1,200 yards rushing and 400 yards receiving over the first four years to void the final two seasons on his contract.

    2009: $5.5 million,
    2010: $6.105 million,
    2011: $7.2 million,
    2012-2013: $7 million (Voidable Years),
    2014: Free Agent.

    Cap charge: $7.4 million (2009).

    if he gets healthy and hits 1200 yards we could be able to bring him in.  james looked pretty good but he wasn't too good against OSU last year in the bowl game.  Ingram, devine, or Murrey look great.
     
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    [QUOTE]Steven jackson could be a FA this year. according to his contract: 8/21/2008: Signed a six-year, $44.805 million contract. The deal contains $20.5 million guaranteed, including an $11.395 million signing bonus. Another $4.495 million is available through incentives. He must average 1,200 yards rushing and 400 yards receiving over the first four years to void the final two seasons on his contract. 2009: $5.5 million, 2010: $6.105 million, 2011: $7.2 million, 2012-2013: $7 million (Voidable Years), 2014: Free Agent. Cap charge: $7.4 million (2009). if he gets healthy and hits 1200 yards we could be able to bring him in.  james looked pretty good but he wasn't too good against OSU last year in the bowl game.  Ingram, devine, or Murrey look great.
    Posted by natesubs[/QUOTE]
    It's a tough call on RB.  I think BB would prefer to bring in a vet but not one looking for a huge pay day.  More likely it will be a guy in the twilight of his career or a guy looking for a second chance.  Examples include, Antowain Smith, Corey Dillon, Sammy Morris, and Fred Taylor.  None of this guys made bank with Dillon's cap number the highest at $2.6 MM in 2006.  He drafted Maroney in the first, true but I think it was more about Maroney's perceived value at the location in the draft than it was a desire to take a RB in the first round.

    Steven Jackson, IMO, would be far too expensive.  Given our number of premium picks I would not rule out us taking one of the three stud RBs you mention.  To me, we could wait on Devine until the 2nd while Murray and Ingram would likely need to be taken with the Raiders' pick.

     
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    Watching the Cincy/Louisville game tonight and the back from Louisville looks impressive. Bilal Powell, 6-0 215 senior, he runs with good power, vision and burst  (3 70+ yd TD runs on the year) and has gone for 209 yards and 2 TDs on the night (his second consecutive 200+ yd game), he also looks pretty good catching the ball out of the backfield and ran some "Wild Card".  IMO, he's someone to keep any eye on as a mid-late round option at RB.

    Overall, he's really come on this year under the new coaching staff under HC Charlie Strong (former DC at Florida) and has gone for 898 yds and 9 TDs on 115 carries (7.8 ypc).

    As an NFL comparison, he reminded me a bit of Frank Gore both in looks and running style.
     
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    2011 MOCK V1 (Rounds 1-4) 

    I’m looking for BB to continue his roster overhaul adding even more talent, speed, intelligence, versatility and character to their roster.  Below is my first attempt at predicting what direction they may go:   

    Rd 1 (Raiders) – Prince Amukamara (6-0 203 CB Nebraska)- Senior:  An elite talent, great size, speed combo for a CB, shut down potential, scheme diverse, solid/secure tackler, great instincts and recognition skills, excellent ball skills.  He could immediately push Bodden for a starting position opposite McCourty. 

    Rd 1 (Assigned) – Ryan Kerrigan (6-4 263 OLB/DE Purdue) – Senior:  Ideal size with good instincts with ability to get after the QB, pressure the pocket and make plays behind the LOS.  He’s also shown the ability to set the edge vs. the run and didn’t look out of place when asked to drop into coverage.  He was the team MVP for the 2009 season, is a captain in 2010 and is a two-time Big Ten All-Academic recipient. 

    Rd 2 (Panthers) – Gabe Carimi (6-7 318 OT Wisconsin )- Senior:  A big, tough, strong, nasty, smart.  He’s the typical blue-collar type OT that BB generally targets.  He could be the eventual starter at RT assuming Vollmer moves to LT. 

    Rd 2 (Assigned) - Christian Ballard (6-4 296 DE Iowa) – Senior:  Possesses the size and length that BB covets in his 5-techs.  He’s smart, versatile, and stout at the POA, has the ability to get after the QB and has the Iowa/Ferentz pedigree.  He may get some 1st round consideration. 

    Rd 3 (Vikings) - Robert Sands (6-5 220 S WVU) - Junior:  Great size/speed combo, good instincts and ball skills, aggressive yet secure tackler.  He could be the long term compliment to Chung in the NE secondary.

    Rd 3 (Assigned)- Jacquizz Rodgers (5-7 190 RB/WR Oregon State)- Junior:  Tough as nails, plays with a chip on his shoulder, elite speed and quickness, electric with the ball in his hands, would provide a ton of value/versatility/big play ability to the offense.  

    Rd 4- (Broncos)-***TRADED TO SEATTLE FOR BRANCH*** 

    Rd 4- (Assigned)- Bilal Powell (6-0 215 RB Louisville)- Senior:  A relative unknown at this point, he possesses a great combo of power, burst and vision, shows some big play ability (3 70+ yd TD runs in 2010) and reminds me of Frank Gore in both looks and running style.  He would bring an upgrade of youth and talent to the NE backfield allowing BJGE to move back to a #2 or #3 back which I think better fits his skill set. 
     
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    Carimi is the surest bet at OT in my opinion,solid run and pass.He has the ability to be a long time starter at RT for the Pats.Physically gifted,smart,tough with a terrific work ethic.Also,Sands has imposing size and surprising speed and is a more skilled a cover safety than some give him credit for being.the only question is with with our current starting safeties and Page and Barrett behind them(Barrett was the Pats stealth grab this year..out this season but a big time talent)do you take a safety this high.I'd take rodgers or powell,but not both.Poweel would be my pick on the fourth as Woodhead may not be much behind rodgers,if at all,let's see what he does during this season and if they can re-sign him.Prince will play big time CB in the NFL but is there is a way to get Peterson,go for it,he is simply superb.Kerrigan and Ballard are B.B.kind of guys....Very nice job!
     
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    [QUOTE]2011 MOCK V1 (Rounds 1-4)   I’m looking for BB to continue his roster overhaul adding even more talent, speed, intelligence, versatility and character to their roster.   Below is my first attempt at predicting what direction they may go:      Rd 1 (Raiders) – Prince Amukamara (6-0 203 CB Nebraska)- Senior :   An elite talent, great size, speed combo for a CB, shut down potential, scheme diverse, solid/secure tackler, great instincts and recognition skills, excellent ball skills.   He could immediately push Bodden for a starting position opposite McCourty.   Rd 1 (Assigned) – Ryan Kerrigan (6-4 263 OLB/DE Purdue) – Senior :   Ideal size with good instincts with ability to get after the QB, pressure the pocket and make plays behind the LOS.   He’s also shown the ability to set the edge vs. the run and didn’t look out of place when asked to drop into coverage.   He was the team MVP for the 2009 season, is a captain in 2010 and is a two-time Big Ten All-Academic recipient.   Rd 2 (Panthers) – Gabe Carimi (6-7 318 OT Wisconsin )- Senior :   A big, tough, strong, nasty, smart.   He’s the typical blue-collar type OT that BB generally targets.   He could be the eventual starter at RT assuming Vollmer moves to LT.   Rd 2 (Assigned) - Christian Ballard (6-4 296 DE Iowa) – Senior :   Possesses the size and length that BB covets in his 5-techs.   He’s smart, versatile, and stout at the POA, has the ability to get after the QB and has the Iowa/Ferentz pedigree.   He may get some 1 st round consideration.   Rd 3 (Vikings) - Robert Sands (6-5 220 S WVU) - Junior :   Great size/speed combo, good instincts and ball skills, aggressive yet secure tackler.   He could be the long term compliment to Chung in the NE secondary. Rd 3 (Assigned)- Jacquizz Rodgers (5-7 190 RB/WR Oregon State)- Junior :   Tough as nails, plays with a chip on his shoulder, elite speed and quickness, electric with the ball in his hands, would provide a ton of value/versatility/big play ability to the offense.    Rd 4- (Broncos)-***TRADED TO SEATTLE FOR BRANCH***   Rd 4- (Assigned)- Bilal Powell (6-0 215 RB Louisville)- Senior :   A relative unknown at this point, he possesses a great combo of power, burst and vision, shows some big play ability (3 70+ yd TD runs in 2010) and reminds me of Frank Gore in both looks and running style.   He would bring an upgrade of youth and talent to the NE backfield allowing BJGE to move back to a #2 or #3 back which I think better fits his skill set.  
    Posted by mbeaulieu07[/QUOTE]

    i like carimi. as i said in that other draft thread, i was pretty impressed with the wisconsin o-line. i think the center was #66. he fell flat on his back once during teh game last week, but through the rest of the game he was solid. #74 was also did well in both pretection and run blocking. heyward disappeared in that game.


     
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    Was crackin' up while checkin' out Walterfootball.com's Mock 2nd Round selections, because when it became NE's projected 2nd selection for Round #2, all it said was this (I love how simply matter-of-fact the final line is stated):


    New England Patriots: Curtis Brown, CB, Texas
    First-round pick Devin McCourty is playing very well thus far, but all of New England's other cornerbacks are struggling. If this continues, Bill Belichick will look to upgrade the position with one of his 50,000 draft picks come April.
     
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    1a. Adrian Clayborn, DE, (Iowa) or Prince Amukamara CB (Nebraska)

    1b. Nate Solder OT (Colorado) 6-9, 305, 4.84

    2a. DeMarco Murray, RB (Oklahoma), 6-0, 214, 4.49

    2b. JJ Watts, DE/DT (Wisconsin)

    3a. Robert Sands S, (WVU) 6-5 220 or Clint Boling, OG (Georgia) 6-5, 310, 5.16

    3b. Chimdi Chekwa, CB (Ohio State), 6-0, 190, 4.42

    4. Owen Marecic, FB (Stanford)

    6. Ugo Chinasa, OLB (Oklahoma State)

    6-7? (Comensatory) Bilal Powell RB, (Louisville) 6th-7th round

     
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    I think Kerrigan, Solder and Carimi go higher than what people expect.
     
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    I've seen a bunch of top notch RB's and though Powell is a solid back if you've got a shot at either Murray or Ingram you have to take it,as for DE/OLB's Kerrigan and Clayborn are studs but if the two guys from the left coast Carter or Ayers are still available The patriots could certainly use them. DB's I don't have a feel for them at this point in time,and you know that they always try and find a new toy for Dante each year. My personal favorite is AJ Green but then again he is a bit tall for a WR in the BB midget-flex WR scheme!!!
     
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    1a. Prince Amukamara CB 6-0 200 another McCourty type CB, 4 down player has great ball skills.  It gives a new look to NE CBs, taller bigger. 

    1b. Jeremy Beal OLB 6'3" 260 I'm not convinced we'll need to spend a high pick on a OLB, watch Cunningham and Nink the rest of the year.  If there's a need to get a stud I think Beal could be that guy.
     
    2a. Matt Reynolds OT 6'6" 325 (Junior) He may be a 1st rounder but I would not mind him slipping if there's a run on D players or QBs.  A few places has him ranked as the top Junior tackle in the country.

    2b.  Kenny Tate FS 6'4" 220 (Junior) converted WR, only 3 years of S experience but looks and plays the part.  He's a Junior and might now declare but he's stock is on the rise.  Another 4 down player.

    3a. Jarvis Jenkins DT/DE 6'4" 315 Very agile for a 315 pounder, could help at DE although Deadrick might proof to be a starter yet. 

    3b. John Moffitt G/C 6'5" 320 Will add depth and give BB another versitile inside guy.  Has played both guard and center

    4 Brandon Saine RB 6'0" 220 speedy RB who will deliver a hit on tacklers.  Can be spread out wide and has the speed to move with CBs and beat LBs.

    6 Kris Adams WR 6'3" 195 player to develop, probably a PS for a year or two.  Needs to polish routes.
     
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    In Response to Re: 2011 Patriots Draft Options ***UPDATED WITH MOCK V1***:
    [QUOTE]Was crackin' up while checkin' out Walterfootball.com's Mock 2nd Round selections, because when it became NE's projected 2nd selection for Round #2, all it said was this (I love how simply matter-of-fact the final line is stated): New England Patriots: Curtis Brown, CB, Texas First-round pick Devin McCourty is playing very well thus far, but all of New England's other cornerbacks are struggling. If this continues, Bill Belichick will look to upgrade the position with one of his 50,000 draft picks come April.
    Posted by LazarusintheSanatorium[/QUOTE]

    Saw that myself, good stuff, ha.
     

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