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2011 Patriots Draft Options ***THANKS TO ALL WHO CONTRIBUTED!***

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    In Response to Re: 2011 Patriots Draft Options : I agree that it could be a weaker draft than people think but also that the CBA will get resolved over the summer. No Ingram is no biggie IMO if we get a solid FA as you said. I like the idea of signing DeAngelo Williams or Jamaal Charles. They both have that big play ability Green-Ellis may lack. BB loves to ride one back for an entire series and then switch to another. I can see BJGE moving that pile a workmanlike 5 yards at a time one series while Williams or Charles may mostly avg 3-4 yards, but bust out a 12-18 yard run 1-2x a game and a nice 30+ run every other game. Woodhead can replace Faulk as a shifty runner from the backfield and Hernandez as that safety blanket pass catcher who will always get you the qucik 5 yard out, and if a slow LB is on him, turn it into a dozen.
    Posted by rameakap

    A CBA getting done next summer is still after the draft in April and long after the deadline for juniors to declare which I learned is Jan 15.  In talking to some people, most think the CBA won't affect too many juniors wanting to declare so maybe the draft will be deep.  I agree with everything else you said.

    For everyone, now that Moss is gone, my idea of taking a tall WR at the Raider's spot looks more possible.  We should be able to land AJ Green or Julius Jones if the Raiders continue to struggle.  I would take either in a heartbeat.


     
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    In Response to Re: 2011 Patriots Draft Options : not that i want the pats to take a rb before their second 2nd rounder, but if they do take an rb, i'd rather have james from oregon. he has the shiftiness to make a lot of guys whiff, enough power to break tackles in the nfl and speed of a consistent homerun threat.  oh did i mention fearless? if you like jackson of STL, i think this guy is better.
    Posted by seattlepat70


    sp70,
    James (only a sophmore) is electric with the ball in his hands and a threat to score from anywhere on the field,  but he's only listed at 5-9 185, which means he's probably smaller than that while Steven Jackson is a legit 6-1+ and 235 pounds.  I don't see James having a career as a between the tackles back in the NFL, legit change of pace/homerun potential though.
     
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    Steven jackson could be a FA this year.
    according to his contract:

    8/21/2008: Signed a six-year, $44.805 million contract.

    The deal contains $20.5 million guaranteed, including an $11.395 million signing bonus.

    Another $4.495 million is available through incentives. He must average 1,200 yards rushing and 400 yards receiving over the first four years to void the final two seasons on his contract.

    2009: $5.5 million,
    2010: $6.105 million,
    2011: $7.2 million,
    2012-2013: $7 million (Voidable Years),
    2014: Free Agent.

    Cap charge: $7.4 million (2009).

    if he gets healthy and hits 1200 yards we could be able to bring him in.  james looked pretty good but he wasn't too good against OSU last year in the bowl game.  Ingram, devine, or Murrey look great.
     
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    Steven jackson could be a FA this year. according to his contract: 8/21/2008: Signed a six-year, $44.805 million contract. The deal contains $20.5 million guaranteed, including an $11.395 million signing bonus. Another $4.495 million is available through incentives. He must average 1,200 yards rushing and 400 yards receiving over the first four years to void the final two seasons on his contract. 2009: $5.5 million, 2010: $6.105 million, 2011: $7.2 million, 2012-2013: $7 million (Voidable Years), 2014: Free Agent. Cap charge: $7.4 million (2009). if he gets healthy and hits 1200 yards we could be able to bring him in.  james looked pretty good but he wasn't too good against OSU last year in the bowl game.  Ingram, devine, or Murrey look great.
    Posted by natesubs

    It's a tough call on RB.  I think BB would prefer to bring in a vet but not one looking for a huge pay day.  More likely it will be a guy in the twilight of his career or a guy looking for a second chance.  Examples include, Antowain Smith, Corey Dillon, Sammy Morris, and Fred Taylor.  None of this guys made bank with Dillon's cap number the highest at $2.6 MM in 2006.  He drafted Maroney in the first, true but I think it was more about Maroney's perceived value at the location in the draft than it was a desire to take a RB in the first round.

    Steven Jackson, IMO, would be far too expensive.  Given our number of premium picks I would not rule out us taking one of the three stud RBs you mention.  To me, we could wait on Devine until the 2nd while Murray and Ingram would likely need to be taken with the Raiders' pick.

     
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    Watching the Cincy/Louisville game tonight and the back from Louisville looks impressive. Bilal Powell, 6-0 215 senior, he runs with good power, vision and burst  (3 70+ yd TD runs on the year) and has gone for 209 yards and 2 TDs on the night (his second consecutive 200+ yd game), he also looks pretty good catching the ball out of the backfield and ran some "Wild Card".  IMO, he's someone to keep any eye on as a mid-late round option at RB.

    Overall, he's really come on this year under the new coaching staff under HC Charlie Strong (former DC at Florida) and has gone for 898 yds and 9 TDs on 115 carries (7.8 ypc).

    As an NFL comparison, he reminded me a bit of Frank Gore both in looks and running style.
     
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    2011 MOCK V1 (Rounds 1-4) 

    I’m looking for BB to continue his roster overhaul adding even more talent, speed, intelligence, versatility and character to their roster.  Below is my first attempt at predicting what direction they may go:   

    Rd 1 (Raiders) – Prince Amukamara (6-0 203 CB Nebraska)- Senior:  An elite talent, great size, speed combo for a CB, shut down potential, scheme diverse, solid/secure tackler, great instincts and recognition skills, excellent ball skills.  He could immediately push Bodden for a starting position opposite McCourty. 

    Rd 1 (Assigned) – Ryan Kerrigan (6-4 263 OLB/DE Purdue) – Senior:  Ideal size with good instincts with ability to get after the QB, pressure the pocket and make plays behind the LOS.  He’s also shown the ability to set the edge vs. the run and didn’t look out of place when asked to drop into coverage.  He was the team MVP for the 2009 season, is a captain in 2010 and is a two-time Big Ten All-Academic recipient. 

    Rd 2 (Panthers) – Gabe Carimi (6-7 318 OT Wisconsin )- Senior:  A big, tough, strong, nasty, smart.  He’s the typical blue-collar type OT that BB generally targets.  He could be the eventual starter at RT assuming Vollmer moves to LT. 

    Rd 2 (Assigned) - Christian Ballard (6-4 296 DE Iowa) – Senior:  Possesses the size and length that BB covets in his 5-techs.  He’s smart, versatile, and stout at the POA, has the ability to get after the QB and has the Iowa/Ferentz pedigree.  He may get some 1st round consideration. 

    Rd 3 (Vikings) - Robert Sands (6-5 220 S WVU) - Junior:  Great size/speed combo, good instincts and ball skills, aggressive yet secure tackler.  He could be the long term compliment to Chung in the NE secondary.

    Rd 3 (Assigned)- Jacquizz Rodgers (5-7 190 RB/WR Oregon State)- Junior:  Tough as nails, plays with a chip on his shoulder, elite speed and quickness, electric with the ball in his hands, would provide a ton of value/versatility/big play ability to the offense.  

    Rd 4- (Broncos)-***TRADED TO SEATTLE FOR BRANCH*** 

    Rd 4- (Assigned)- Bilal Powell (6-0 215 RB Louisville)- Senior:  A relative unknown at this point, he possesses a great combo of power, burst and vision, shows some big play ability (3 70+ yd TD runs in 2010) and reminds me of Frank Gore in both looks and running style.  He would bring an upgrade of youth and talent to the NE backfield allowing BJGE to move back to a #2 or #3 back which I think better fits his skill set. 
     
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    Carimi is the surest bet at OT in my opinion,solid run and pass.He has the ability to be a long time starter at RT for the Pats.Physically gifted,smart,tough with a terrific work ethic.Also,Sands has imposing size and surprising speed and is a more skilled a cover safety than some give him credit for being.the only question is with with our current starting safeties and Page and Barrett behind them(Barrett was the Pats stealth grab this year..out this season but a big time talent)do you take a safety this high.I'd take rodgers or powell,but not both.Poweel would be my pick on the fourth as Woodhead may not be much behind rodgers,if at all,let's see what he does during this season and if they can re-sign him.Prince will play big time CB in the NFL but is there is a way to get Peterson,go for it,he is simply superb.Kerrigan and Ballard are B.B.kind of guys....Very nice job!
     
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    2011 MOCK V1 (Rounds 1-4)   I’m looking for BB to continue his roster overhaul adding even more talent, speed, intelligence, versatility and character to their roster.   Below is my first attempt at predicting what direction they may go:      Rd 1 (Raiders) – Prince Amukamara (6-0 203 CB Nebraska)- Senior :   An elite talent, great size, speed combo for a CB, shut down potential, scheme diverse, solid/secure tackler, great instincts and recognition skills, excellent ball skills.   He could immediately push Bodden for a starting position opposite McCourty.   Rd 1 (Assigned) – Ryan Kerrigan (6-4 263 OLB/DE Purdue) – Senior :   Ideal size with good instincts with ability to get after the QB, pressure the pocket and make plays behind the LOS.   He’s also shown the ability to set the edge vs. the run and didn’t look out of place when asked to drop into coverage.   He was the team MVP for the 2009 season, is a captain in 2010 and is a two-time Big Ten All-Academic recipient.   Rd 2 (Panthers) – Gabe Carimi (6-7 318 OT Wisconsin )- Senior :   A big, tough, strong, nasty, smart.   He’s the typical blue-collar type OT that BB generally targets.   He could be the eventual starter at RT assuming Vollmer moves to LT.   Rd 2 (Assigned) - Christian Ballard (6-4 296 DE Iowa) – Senior :   Possesses the size and length that BB covets in his 5-techs.   He’s smart, versatile, and stout at the POA, has the ability to get after the QB and has the Iowa/Ferentz pedigree.   He may get some 1 st round consideration.   Rd 3 (Vikings) - Robert Sands (6-5 220 S WVU) - Junior :   Great size/speed combo, good instincts and ball skills, aggressive yet secure tackler.   He could be the long term compliment to Chung in the NE secondary. Rd 3 (Assigned)- Jacquizz Rodgers (5-7 190 RB/WR Oregon State)- Junior :   Tough as nails, plays with a chip on his shoulder, elite speed and quickness, electric with the ball in his hands, would provide a ton of value/versatility/big play ability to the offense.    Rd 4- (Broncos)-***TRADED TO SEATTLE FOR BRANCH***   Rd 4- (Assigned)- Bilal Powell (6-0 215 RB Louisville)- Senior :   A relative unknown at this point, he possesses a great combo of power, burst and vision, shows some big play ability (3 70+ yd TD runs in 2010) and reminds me of Frank Gore in both looks and running style.   He would bring an upgrade of youth and talent to the NE backfield allowing BJGE to move back to a #2 or #3 back which I think better fits his skill set.  
    Posted by mbeaulieu07


    i like carimi. as i said in that other draft thread, i was pretty impressed with the wisconsin o-line. i think the center was #66. he fell flat on his back once during teh game last week, but through the rest of the game he was solid. #74 was also did well in both pretection and run blocking. heyward disappeared in that game.


     
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    1a. Adrian Clayborn, DE, (Iowa) or Prince Amukamara CB (Nebraska)

    1b. Nate Solder OT (Colorado) 6-9, 305, 4.84

    2a. DeMarco Murray, RB (Oklahoma), 6-0, 214, 4.49

    2b. JJ Watts, DE/DT (Wisconsin)

    3a. Robert Sands S, (WVU) 6-5 220 or Clint Boling, OG (Georgia) 6-5, 310, 5.16

    3b. Chimdi Chekwa, CB (Ohio State), 6-0, 190, 4.42

    4. Owen Marecic, FB (Stanford)

    6. Ugo Chinasa, OLB (Oklahoma State)

    6-7? (Comensatory) Bilal Powell RB, (Louisville) 6th-7th round

     
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    I think Kerrigan, Solder and Carimi go higher than what people expect.
     
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    I've seen a bunch of top notch RB's and though Powell is a solid back if you've got a shot at either Murray or Ingram you have to take it,as for DE/OLB's Kerrigan and Clayborn are studs but if the two guys from the left coast Carter or Ayers are still available The patriots could certainly use them. DB's I don't have a feel for them at this point in time,and you know that they always try and find a new toy for Dante each year. My personal favorite is AJ Green but then again he is a bit tall for a WR in the BB midget-flex WR scheme!!!
     
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    1a. Prince Amukamara CB 6-0 200 another McCourty type CB, 4 down player has great ball skills.  It gives a new look to NE CBs, taller bigger. 

    1b. Jeremy Beal OLB 6'3" 260 I'm not convinced we'll need to spend a high pick on a OLB, watch Cunningham and Nink the rest of the year.  If there's a need to get a stud I think Beal could be that guy.
     
    2a. Matt Reynolds OT 6'6" 325 (Junior) He may be a 1st rounder but I would not mind him slipping if there's a run on D players or QBs.  A few places has him ranked as the top Junior tackle in the country.

    2b.  Kenny Tate FS 6'4" 220 (Junior) converted WR, only 3 years of S experience but looks and plays the part.  He's a Junior and might now declare but he's stock is on the rise.  Another 4 down player.

    3a. Jarvis Jenkins DT/DE 6'4" 315 Very agile for a 315 pounder, could help at DE although Deadrick might proof to be a starter yet. 

    3b. John Moffitt G/C 6'5" 320 Will add depth and give BB another versitile inside guy.  Has played both guard and center

    4 Brandon Saine RB 6'0" 220 speedy RB who will deliver a hit on tacklers.  Can be spread out wide and has the speed to move with CBs and beat LBs.

    6 Kris Adams WR 6'3" 195 player to develop, probably a PS for a year or two.  Needs to polish routes.
     
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    Was crackin' up while checkin' out Walterfootball.com's Mock 2nd Round selections, because when it became NE's projected 2nd selection for Round #2, all it said was this (I love how simply matter-of-fact the final line is stated): New England Patriots: Curtis Brown, CB, Texas First-round pick Devin McCourty is playing very well thus far, but all of New England's other cornerbacks are struggling. If this continues, Bill Belichick will look to upgrade the position with one of his 50,000 draft picks come April.
    Posted by LazarusintheSanatorium


    Saw that myself, good stuff, ha.
     
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    I think Kerrigan, Solder and Carimi go higher than what people expect.
    Posted by garytx


    Kerrigan in particular could work his way into the top 10-15 or so the rise in his draft stock would indicate.

    Carimi is a kid I watched some tape on last night (then added him to my mock).  Played with great aggression, moved his feet well, showed the ability to effectively block at the 2nd level, drives his man off the ball, sometimes 10 yards down field etc.  With an apparent down year for OT's he could certainly rise if he maintains his level of play.
     
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    In Response to Re: 2011 Patriots Draft Options ***UPDATED WITH MOCK V1*** : i like carimi. as i said in that other draft thread, i was pretty impressed with the wisconsin o-line. i think the center was #66. he fell flat on his back once during teh game last week, but through the rest of the game he was solid. #74 was also did well in both pretection and run blocking. heyward disappeared in that game.
    Posted by seattlepat70


    Indeed, he has a lot of measurables/intangibles that fit well with BB's draft philosophy.
     
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    In Response to Re: 2011 Patriots Draft Options ***UPDATED WITH MOCK V1*** : Kerrigan in particular could work his way into the top 10-15 or so the rise in his draft stock would indicate. Carimi is a kid I watched some tape on last night (then added him to my mock).  Played with great aggression, moved his feet well, showed the ability to effectively block at the 2nd level, drives his man off the ball, sometimes 10 yards down field etc.  With an apparent down year for OT's he could certainly rise if he maintains his level of play.
    Posted by mbeaulieu07


    I don't think so with Kerrigan (no opinion on the rest). Kerrigan is playing himself up draft boards. His problem will be with measurables. At 6'4, 265, he's got the size. 4.8+ 40 will be a big turnoff. For the Patriots and 3-4 teams, he's a 2nd round pick, maybe 3rd or 4th. For a 4-3, he could be taken at an end spot. Then he has a better chance of getting picked in the first round, but still late first round, unless the Jags take him.
     
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    Peterson has greatness in his game and when you have a shot at a CB like this you take it(but Oakland's pick has to be in the third or fourth in the the first).Carimi is the OT who I believe fits the Pats perfectly and the RB's that best fits their need is either Murrey from Oklahoma(and he could be there early to mid second)or you wait until their second third round pick wait until the fourth rounde(if he  slips),Powell out of Louisville.They may be looking for a tall WR and I'm not sure use a first round selection to grab one or an OLB,depending on how Cunningham and Nink perform or even a DE,depends on what happens with Deaderick(you know I really think he  can play at this level and play well as I have said since before the draft.If they draft a safety it should be late as they have Page(who has proven he can play in this league)and Barrett(and he is a player lest anyone forget).they do need to draft a guard smoewhere along the line but i"m torn as to which rounds.The intereting thing is that Watson could bring a fifth round compersatory pick maybe that's where the guard comes on board.
     
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    Carimi is the surest bet at OT in my opinion,solid run and pass.He has the ability to be a long time starter at RT for the Pats.Physically gifted,smart,tough with a terrific work ethic.Also,Sands has imposing size and surprising speed and is a more skilled a cover safety than some give him credit for being.the only question is with with our current starting safeties and Page and Barrett behind them(Barrett was the Pats stealth grab this year..out this season but a big time talent)do you take a safety this high.I'd take rodgers or powell,but not both.Poweel would be my pick on the fourth as Woodhead may not be much behind rodgers,if at all,let's see what he does during this season and if they can re-sign him.Prince will play big time CB in the NFL but is there is a way to get Peterson,go for it,he is simply superb.Kerrigan and Ballard are B.B.kind of guys....Very nice job!
    Posted by kebbe


    kebbe,
    Thanks!  I had the same dicussion about Jacquizz/Woodhead with another poster and I can't disagree at this point, though there is always room for versatile offensive playmakers.  The tough part is trying to identify 7 players (assuming they make all 7 picks) to draft.  I may end up adding in another lineman (OG or C) before all is said and done.

    IMO, Meriweather isn't in the long term plans so it would make sense for them to draft/develop another young safety.  Josh Barret would be in his 3rd season and hasn't shown to be anything more than roster depth at this point and Sanders/Page haven't shown much in the way of coverage.  Page is still new to the system and could develop but I think an influx of youth and talent (preferably with the ability to cover/make plays) at S is still a need.
     
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    In Response to Re: 2011 Patriots Draft Options ***UPDATED WITH MOCK V1*** : I don't think so with Kerrigan (no opinion on the rest). Kerrigan is playing himself up draft boards. His problem will be with measurables. At 6'4, 265, he's got the size. 4.8+ 40 will be a big turnoff. For the Patriots and 3-4 teams, he's a 2nd round pick, maybe 3rd or 4th. For a 4-3, he could be taken at an end spot. Then he has a better chance of getting picked in the first round, but still late first round, unless the Jags take him.
    Posted by KyleCleric2



    He has the roughly the same measurables and 40 time as Cunningham (6-4 266 4.86) and Cunningham was taken 53rd overall. Both were/are DE's in college though Kerrigan is a lot higher rated player coming into this draft than Cunningham was leading up to the 2010 draft.
     
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    In Response to Re: 2011 Patriots Draft Options ***UPDATED WITH MOCK V1*** : He has the roughly the same measurables and 40 time as Cunningham (6-4 266 4.86) and Cunningham was taken 53rd overall. Both were/are DE's in college though Kerrigan is a lot higher rated player coming into this draft than Cunningham was leading up to the 2010 draft.
    Posted by mbeaulieu07

    that doesn't change what i said. players with those measurables don't usually do better than the second round
     
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    1a. Prince Amukamara CB 6-0 200 another McCourty type CB, 4 down player has great ball skills.  It gives a new look to NE CBs, taller bigger.  1b. Jeremy Beal OLB 6'3" 260 I'm not convinced we'll need to spend a high pick on a OLB, watch Cunningham and Nink the rest of the year.  If there's a need to get a stud I think Beal could be that guy.   2a. Matt Reynolds OT 6'6" 325 (Junior) He may be a 1st rounder but I would not mind him slipping if there's a run on D players or QBs.  A few places has him ranked as the top Junior tackle in the country. 2b.  Kenny Tate FS 6'4" 220 (Junior)  converted WR, only 3 years of S experience but looks and plays the part.  He's a Junior and might now declare but he's stock is on the rise.  Another 4 down player. 3a. Jarvis Jenkins DT/DE 6'4" 315 Very agile for a 315 pounder, could help at DE although Deadrick might proof to be a starter yet.  3b. John Moffitt G/C 6'5" 320 Will add depth and give BB another versitile inside guy.  Has played both guard and center 4 Brandon Saine RB 6'0" 220 speedy RB who will deliver a hit on tacklers.  Can be spread out wide and has the speed to move with CBs and beat LBs. 6 Kris Adams WR 6'3" 195 player to develop, probably a PS for a year or two.  Needs to polish routes.
    Posted by Pats7393


    I have not seen his tema's games so I some 2009 videos of Jenkins on youtube...if he's consistent at playing as shown on those videos, man he would be a good catch. before seeing that I was skeptical because has a bit of a midsection hanging. he moves thought.
     
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    In Response to Re: 2011 Patriots Draft Options ***UPDATED WITH MOCK V1*** : Kerrigan in particular could work his way into the top 10-15 or so the rise in his draft stock would indicate. Carimi is a kid I watched some tape on last night (then added him to my mock).  Played with great aggression, moved his feet well, showed the ability to effectively block at the 2nd level, drives his man off the ball, sometimes 10 yards down field etc.  With an apparent down year for OT's he could certainly rise if he maintains his level of play.
    Posted by mbeaulieu07



    I guess that's what I'm getting at.  There aren't a lot of tackles that are listed high in the draft for some reason.  DEs seem to dominate the landscape.  I don't see how Carimi escapes the top 15.
     
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    2011 MOCK V1 (Rounds 1-4)   I’m looking for BB to continue his roster overhaul adding even more talent, speed, intelligence, versatility and character to their roster.   Below is my first attempt at predicting what direction they may go:      Rd 1 (Raiders) – Prince Amukamara (6-0 203 CB Nebraska)- Senior :   An elite talent, great size, speed combo for a CB, shut down potential, scheme diverse, solid/secure tackler, great instincts and recognition skills, excellent ball skills.   He could immediately push Bodden for a starting position opposite McCourty.   Rd 1 (Assigned) – Ryan Kerrigan (6-4 263 OLB/DE Purdue) – Senior :   Ideal size with good instincts with ability to get after the QB, pressure the pocket and make plays behind the LOS.   He’s also shown the ability to set the edge vs. the run and didn’t look out of place when asked to drop into coverage.   He was the team MVP for the 2009 season, is a captain in 2010 and is a two-time Big Ten All-Academic recipient.   Rd 2 (Panthers) – Gabe Carimi (6-7 318 OT Wisconsin )- Senior :   A big, tough, strong, nasty, smart.   He’s the typical blue-collar type OT that BB generally targets.   He could be the eventual starter at RT assuming Vollmer moves to LT.   Rd 2 (Assigned) - Christian Ballard (6-4 296 DE Iowa) – Senior :   Possesses the size and length that BB covets in his 5-techs.   He’s smart, versatile, and stout at the POA, has the ability to get after the QB and has the Iowa/Ferentz pedigree.   He may get some 1 st round consideration.   Rd 3 (Vikings) - Robert Sands (6-5 220 S WVU) - Junior :   Great size/speed combo, good instincts and ball skills, aggressive yet secure tackler.   He could be the long term compliment to Chung in the NE secondary. Rd 3 (Assigned)- Jacquizz Rodgers (5-7 190 RB/WR Oregon State)- Junior :   Tough as nails, plays with a chip on his shoulder, elite speed and quickness, electric with the ball in his hands, would provide a ton of value/versatility/big play ability to the offense.    Rd 4- (Broncos)-***TRADED TO SEATTLE FOR BRANCH***   Rd 4- (Assigned)- Bilal Powell (6-0 215 RB Louisville)- Senior :   A relative unknown at this point, he possesses a great combo of power, burst and vision, shows some big play ability (3 70+ yd TD runs in 2010) and reminds me of Frank Gore in both looks and running style.   He would bring an upgrade of youth and talent to the NE backfield allowing BJGE to move back to a #2 or #3 back which I think better fits his skill set.  
    Posted by mbeaulieu07


    I do like Carimi and think he blend in nicely as a RT.

    I don't however think spending a top 10 pick on a cb is way to soon for this team. You still have Bodden locked up for 3 more years and you aren't about to move him to nickel. McCourty looks like the real deal and you won't be moving him to nickel either. Drafting a CB that high means someone's playing nickel and being wasted. If it's a top 10 pick I expect then to fortify their lines first both adding depth to a second unit in the nickel.

    I like Kerrigan but not that early. As a OLB right now he's a mid 2nd to 3rd, his value is higher for a 43 DE though. That could change but I still like Beal over Kerrigan. Beal seems more like the prototypical rusher who has a ton of experience in the 2 point and better overall size and atheletism.

    You know my feelings on Woodhead. I don't want to use a pick on another player similiar to him, Rodgers.   But another line player like Boren would be great in that pick.

    I do like Powell and plan to continu watching him. His size speed and between the tackels running style seems to fit perfectly with BJGE and Woodhead. I would love to have him on the team.
     
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    Re: 2011 Patriots Draft Options ***UPDATED WITH MOCK V1***

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    In Response to Re: 2011 Patriots Draft Options ***UPDATED WITH MOCK V1*** : I do like Carimi and think he blend in nicely as a RT. I don't however think spending a top 10 pick on a cb is way to soon for this team. You still have Bodden locked up for 3 more years and you aren't about to move him to nickel. McCourty looks like the real deal and you won't be moving him to nickel either. Drafting a CB that high means someone's playing nickel and being wasted. If it's a top 10 pick I expect then to fortify their lines first both adding depth to a second unit in the nickel. I like Kerrigan but not that early. As a OLB right now he's a mid 2nd to 3rd, his value is higher for a 43 DE though. That could change but I still like Beal over Kerrigan. Beal seems more like the prototypical rusher who has a ton of experience in the 2 point and better overall size and atheletism. You know my feelings on Woodhead. I don't want to use a pick on another player similiar to him, Rodgers.   But another line player like Boren would be great in that pick. I do like Powell and plan to continu watching him. His size speed and between the tackels running style seems to fit perfectly with BJGE and Woodhead. I would love to have him on the team.
    Posted by PatsEng


    HI PE,

    I'm with mb on this one this is why, you loss Bodden for the season and now you have Arrington starting at CB.  A CB as special as this kid shows he could be might be too tempting to pass up.  Keep going back to BB's comments on McCourty and saying he wants 4 down players that high.

    Now I'm about to throw something out there, Bodden moved to FS?  I don't think it would be too much of a stretch for Bodden to transition to FS.  He's big and can run, he's good in coverage and a sure tackler.  I hope Butler gets another shot this season to see if he can bounce back or might need another year to develop that confidence.  

    IMO Merri's days are numbered and injuries might be the only reason he sees the field.  Either Bodden a FA or draftee will move into his role next season. 

    Looking at the play of both OLBs and DEs this season and by end of year those two spots might not be as high on the wish list as we all think right now.
     
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