Re: 2011 Patriots Draft Options ***UPDATED MOCK 1/15***
posted at 2/3/2011 11:18 AM EST
In Response to Re: 2011 Patriots Draft Options ***UPDATED MOCK 1/15***
In Response to Re: 2011 Patriots Draft Options ***UPDATED MOCK 1/15*** : Now this is interesting...Bodden paired with Chung at safety, with McCourty and Peterson as our starting CB's. I'm all for this if we can land a stud DE/DT like you suggest with Watt at possibly 28. I possibly suggested using both 1sts to move up for Fairley earlier, but I want to retract that suggestion. I'm not in favor of moving up in the 1st round at all, unless it's 1-3 spots, a minor move requiring a later package of picks. I think there is a lot of talent in this draft that is going to fall to us where we pick, and it's talent we'll need across the board. No luxury picks, just places we need good players and we'll get it with minimal movement...I think... I just don't see any player worth cashing in 2 1sts this year. Not even Fairley in my opinion. Regardless of what happens with Light, I dont' think we need to draft a stud OT in round 1. We talk so much about moving Vollmer to LT, then why spend a 1st on an RT when we can grab a quality one in rounds 2 & 3. Same with Guard, but Faucet's suggestion that there will be a run on Guards means we'll need to start looking for one with our 33, or if we move from 33 down into the 40 range, we'll need to grab one there. Again, supposes Mankins walks and we need to fill his spot, which to me is more urgent, the interior of the line. If you agree with the above, then we have flexibiity with 17 and 28, meaning, we don't need to spend it on a stud OT or G. We could go defense again with both picks, or do something a bit more unconventional and draft a Julio Jones if he falls to 17 as some suggested before. Thoughts guys?..... 1. Do you agree we can wait until round 2-3 to grab a RT? (assumes moving Vollmer to LT, and Light walks) 2. Need to pick up a Guard with 33 or if we trade down in the 40's? 3. Pick 17 & 28...if you agree with 1 & 2, what do you do with 17 and 28? I'll post in a bit on my thoughts on 17 & 28 based on my beliefs above.
Posted by PatsLifer
I don't want to trade both firsts either. I also agree that a slight move up from 17 to land a specific player such as Watt, Jordan or a stud OLB like Miller, Kerrigan or Quinn makes sense. However, we can't move up far with our lower picks. For instance, our 4th round pick moves us up 1 spot; our pick 92 moves us up 2 spots to 15 and our pick 74 moves us up 4 spots to 13. The only move that makes sense of these options is to leap frog JAX with pick 92 if we think they are after a DE we covet, which they could be. Watt, Jordan, Kerrigan and Quinn are all scheme diverse if you ask me. Watt and Jordan can play 3-4 or 4-3 DE while Quinn and Kerrigan can play 4-3 DE and 3-4 OLB.
As for landing a stud LT in the first round, I tend to agree that we aren't likely to do that with Vollmer set to take over at LT when and if Light leaves. BB is more likely to draft an OT in the 2nd round or later as history would suggest. There are a couple of interesting options at pick 33 (if we keep it). I firmly believe Solder, Carimi, Castonzo and Smith won't get out of the first round but Derek Sherrod just might slip to 33. He's a natural LT where I think Carimi is more of a RT. If teams also feel that Carimi is more of a RT, he could fall and Sherrod could replace him in the first round. But if teams believe all 5 guys are LTs, Sherrod could be the one that drops into the 2nd. If he does slip to 33, he won't slip much further so to take him there at 33, we have a guy who can play either LT or RT keeping our options wide open with injuries.
If all 5 top OTs are gone by 33, we have other options at RT lower down the board. Jason Pinkston is a little short at 6-3 but he could be a beast of a RT in the run game and should be available in the high 40s, low 50s which makes him a nice target if we trade down from 33. Marcus Gilbert or Chris Hairston could be nice additions in the 92 to 124 range as RTs. I'm not wild about Barksdale, Cannon, Brewer, Love or Carpenter in between 60 and 92 unless they show at the Combine that they are quicker than they appear to be on tape. Keep in mind also that Danny Watkins played tackle at Baylor and while OG seems like a better fit, he has the size and athletic ability to be a solid RT in the NFL, IMO. Besides his age concerns, I really am starting to like him better than Moffitt in that I'd rather have depth at tackle than center.
Watkins kinda kills two birds if you ask me. Even if we keep Mankins and Light, Watkins provides excellent depth at RT and both OG positions. Connolly is a F/A after 2011 so depth is needed even if we keep Mankins which is not looking very likely. I think I talked myself into Watkins with our first pick of the 2nd round wherever that happens.