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    I'm bored at work so I thought I'd try to post my entire 1st round mock and see what you guys think about who's going where. #1 Colts - Andrew Luck QB #2 Was  - RGIII QB #3 Minn  - Matt Kalil OT #4 Clev  - Trent Richardson RB #5 TB    - Morris Claiborne CB #6 Stl    - Justin Blackmon WR #7 Jax   - Michael Floyd WR #8 Mia   - Ryan Tannehill QB #9 Car   - Luke Kuechly ILB #10 Buf - Riley Reiff OT #11 KC  - Dontari Poe DT #12 Sea - Mark Ingram DE #13 Ari  - David DeCastro OG #14 Dal  - Mark Barron S #15 Phi  - Fletcher Cox DT #16 NYJ - Kendall Wright WR #17 Cin  - Dre Kirkpatrick CB #18 SD  - Quiton Coples DE #19 Chi  - Whitney Mercilus DE #20 Ten - Peter Konz C #21 Cin - Cody Glenn OG #22 Cle - Jonathan Martin OT #23 Det - Stephon Gilmore CB #24 Pit  - Mike Adams OG #25 Den - Stephen Hill WR* #26 Hou - Nick Perry DE/OLB #27 NE  - Michael Brockers DT #28 GB  - Courtney Upshaw OLB #29 Bal  - Dont'a Hightower ILB #30 SF  - Coby Fleener TE #31 NE  - Vinny Curry** DE/OLB #32 NYG - Doug Martin RB   As for the rest of the Pats picks I have: #48 Shea McClellin LB #63 Josh Robinson CB #93 Marvin McNutt/Marvin Jones WR #126 Chris Rainey RB/PR/KR/WR? * Only because of Manning demanding more WR options, otherwise this is where Brockers goes and NE takes Wolfe with #63 and trades either #27 or #31 ** Most likely traded
    Posted by PatsEng

    Excellent mock! My options would include CAR going DL, Fletcher Cox being the first DT off the board, NYJ going D, CHI going OL to protect Cutler, HOU going WR to compliment Johnson, and the PATS picking Harrison Smith with 31 if they can't trade down to early in the 2nd.
     
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    In Response to Re: ***2012 Patriots Draft Thread*** : Excellent mock! My options would include CAR going DL, Fletcher Cox being the first DT off the board, NYJ going D, CHI going OL to protect Cutler, HOU going WR to compliment Johnson, and the PATS picking Harrison Smith with 31 if they can't trade down to early in the 2nd.
    Posted by teegee


    I did think about about all those possibilities but here's my rational behind going the way I did:

    Car - I thought long and hard about Cox and Poe going to Car but I really can't justify either as top 10 picks in all honesty. Car has been linked to Kuechly a number of times and with Davis having question marks about staying on the field Car might take the BPA in the front 7

    NYJ - With the Jets I thought about going D too but with Barron coming off the board I can't see them going CB early. DL, they invested a lot of money and draft picks into so I can't see them going DL early either. A rushing LB is possible but given the Holmes might talk himself off the team and there is no receivers behind Holmes they need some weapons or risk turning into a running team that can't run

    Chi - I really wanted to go OL with this pick but then I looked at the direction Chi has been taking and it's really gotten back to a smash mouth D where they will win or lose based on how the D performs. Given that I can see them wanting to tag another bookend across from Peppers. This pick though was the toughest

    Hou - This was easier then I thought it would be. With 4 WR's already off the board they can afford to wait for the next tier in the 2nd round. Here I have them taking a Williams replacement. If one of the 4 WR's I had previously mocked slip to Hou though I could easily see them taking a WR here

    I can't see Smith being taken at #31. He's to similar a player to Chung and doesn't fill the FS position as a coverage S. I think they are looking for a more athletic FS who's closer to a CB then a S to fill that role given BB's tends lately (moving McCourty to FS, Moore, Gregory)
     
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    In Response to Re: ***2012 Patriots Draft Thread*** : It's a realistic haul and one that I'd be happy with, though I'm still not sold on BB taking a DE/OLB convert in Rd 1... I do like Curry though. My only other nitpick would be to target a Devon Wylie or Greg Childs if they're on the board in Rd 4, though I think Childs could sneak into Rd 3.
    Posted by mbeaulieu07


    Yeah I kind of think BB will trade #31, hence the '**' but if he doesn't either Curry or McClellin seem to fit the bill in terms of size, motor, intelligence, ability to play on the line or drop back that BB generally looks for. I can see him finally grabbing one in the back of the 1st and McClellin is more likely to make it to #48 then Curry so I went Curry at #31

    With Wylie or Childs, I already have them taking either Marvin in the 3rd so I don't see them dbl dipping in the WR pool in the draft. Not with all the off-season acquisitions. The reason I went Rainey is that he's an excellent returner (something they have been reported to target) but he also has great flexibility to be a change of pace RB to back up Woodhead and has good enough hands to play in the slot or outside as an emergency WR. Basically his versatility is what sold me on what they could be looking for
     
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    I'm bored at work so I thought I'd try to post my entire 1st round mock and see what you guys think about who's going where. #1 Colts - Andrew Luck QB #2 Was  - RGIII QB #3 Minn  - Matt Kalil OT #4 Clev  - Trent Richardson RB #5 TB    - Morris Claiborne CB #6 Stl    - Justin Blackmon WR #7 Jax   - Michael Floyd WR #8 Mia   - Ryan Tannehill QB #9 Car   - Luke Kuechly ILB #10 Buf - Riley Reiff OT #11 KC  - Dontari Poe DT #12 Sea - Mark Ingram DE #13 Ari  - David DeCastro OG #14 Dal  - Mark Barron S #15 Phi  - Fletcher Cox DT #16 NYJ - Kendall Wright WR #17 Cin  - Dre Kirkpatrick CB #18 SD  - Quiton Coples DE #19 Chi  - Whitney Mercilus DE #20 Ten - Peter Konz C #21 Cin - Cody Glenn OG #22 Cle - Jonathan Martin OT #23 Det - Stephon Gilmore CB #24 Pit  - Mike Adams OG #25 Den - Stephen Hill WR* #26 Hou - Nick Perry DE/OLB #27 NE  - Michael Brockers DT #28 GB  - Courtney Upshaw OLB #29 Bal  - Dont'a Hightower ILB #30 SF  - Coby Fleener TE #31 NE  - Vinny Curry** DE/OLB #32 NYG - Doug Martin RB   As for the rest of the Pats picks I have: #48 Shea McClellin LB #63 Josh Robinson CB #93 Marvin McNutt/Marvin Jones WR #126 Chris Rainey RB/PR/KR/WR? * Only because of Manning demanding more WR options, otherwise this is where Brockers goes and NE takes Wolfe with #63 and trades either #27 or #31 ** Most likely traded Posted by PatsEng
    Thanks PatsEng. Interesting list. Do you really think Brockers makes it all the way down to 27? I just can't see it happening. It would be a godsend, but I think he is too talented, too much upside for him to slip that far. As for Curry...I could see him cracking round 1, but I would personally rather have McClellin first, and then double up with Curry, Branch or even Wolfe in round 2. I know Wolfe is a DE, but I like doubling up either on DT or olb in this draft with some kids that can play 4-3 DE as well.
     
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    In response to "Re: ***2012 Patriots Draft Thread***": Thanks PatsEng. Interesting list. Do you really think Brockers makes it all the way down to 27? I just can't see it happening. It would be a godsend, but I think he is too talented, too much upside for him to slip that far. As for Curry...I could see him cracking round 1, but I would personally rather have McClellin first, and then double up with Curry, Branch or even Wolfe in round 2. I know Wolfe is a DE, but I like doubling up either on DT or olb in this draft with some kids that can play 4-3 DE as well.
    Posted by PatsLifer

    Well I can't see him being taken ahead of Cox or Poe at this point which should drop him at minimum out of the top 15. Past the top 15 there really aren't a ton of teams looking at a DT until Ten. If Ten wants to beef up their DL they will grab Brockers. If he slides past Ten the next team is Den. With Den they could go outside rusher, inside run stopper, or with Manning another WR option for him to throw to. Given it's Manning I think WR is an option to them which would drop Brockers to #27 with us

     
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    I'm bored at work so I thought I'd try to post my entire 1st round mock and see what you guys think about who's going where. #1 Colts - Andrew Luck QB #2 Was  - RGIII QB #3 Minn  - Matt Kalil OT #4 Clev  - Trent Richardson RB #5 TB    - Morris Claiborne CB #6 Stl    - Justin Blackmon WR #7 Jax   - Michael Floyd WR #8 Mia   - Ryan Tannehill QB #9 Car   - Luke Kuechly ILB #10 Buf - Riley Reiff OT #11 KC  - Dontari Poe DT #12 Sea - Mark Ingram DE #13 Ari  - David DeCastro OG #14 Dal  - Mark Barron S #15 Phi  - Fletcher Cox DT #16 NYJ - Kendall Wright WR #17 Cin  - Dre Kirkpatrick CB #18 SD  - Quiton Coples DE #19 Chi  - Whitney Mercilus DE #20 Ten - Peter Konz C #21 Cin - Cody Glenn OG #22 Cle - Jonathan Martin OT #23 Det - Stephon Gilmore CB #24 Pit  - Mike Adams OG #25 Den - Stephen Hill WR* #26 Hou - Nick Perry DE/OLB #27 NE  - Michael Brockers DT #28 GB  - Courtney Upshaw OLB #29 Bal  - Dont'a Hightower ILB #30 SF  - Coby Fleener TE #31 NE  - Vinny Curry** DE/OLB #32 NYG - Doug Martin RB   As for the rest of the Pats picks I have: #48 Shea McClellin LB #63 Josh Robinson CB #93 Marvin McNutt/Marvin Jones WR #126 Chris Rainey RB/PR/KR/WR? * Only because of Manning demanding more WR options, otherwise this is where Brockers goes and NE takes Wolfe with #63 and trades either #27 or #31 ** Most likely traded
    Posted by PatsEng


    thats not bad man. but no o lineman?
    the first 2 might be outstanding
    like it as a whole. would like a versatile o lineman
     
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    In Response to Re: ***2012 Patriots Draft Thread*** : I did think about about all those possibilities but here's my rational behind going the way I did: Car - I thought long and hard about Cox and Poe going to Car but I really can't justify either as top 10 picks in all honesty. Car has been linked to Kuechly a number of times and with Davis having question marks about staying on the field Car might take the BPA in the front 7 NYJ - With the Jets I thought about going D too but with Barron coming off the board I can't see them going CB early. DL, they invested a lot of money and draft picks into so I can't see them going DL early either. A rushing LB is possible but given the Holmes might talk himself off the team and there is no receivers behind Holmes they need some weapons or risk turning into a running team that can't run Chi - I really wanted to go OL with this pick but then I looked at the direction Chi has been taking and it's really gotten back to a smash mouth D where they will win or lose based on how the D performs. Given that I can see them wanting to tag another bookend across from Peppers. This pick though was the toughest Hou - This was easier then I thought it would be. With 4 WR's already off the board they can afford to wait for the next tier in the 2nd round. Here I have them taking a Williams replacement. If one of the 4 WR's I had previously mocked slip to Hou though I could easily see them taking a WR here I can't see Smith being taken at #31. He's to similar a player to Chung and doesn't fill the FS position as a coverage S. I think they are looking for a more athletic FS who's closer to a CB then a S to fill that role given BB's tends lately (moving McCourty to FS, Moore, Gregory)
    Posted by PatsEng


    ps have you seen where hoyer and his agent are shopping him/himslef trying to find a "starter" job?
     
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    In Response to Re: ***2012 Patriots Draft Thread*** : ps have you seen where hoyer and his agent are shopping him/himslef trying to find a "starter" job? Posted by bredbru
    Where did you see this?
     
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    If you only had pick 27 (31 traded) and these are the guys available which of these do you take?

    Reyes DE/DT
    Smith S
    Hill WR
    C. Jones DE/OLB
    McClellin DE/OLB
    Jenkins CB

    Why do I keep thinking Reyes be nice but Smith is my choice, I really like the kid.  He IMO falls into the 4 down category BB looks for in 1st rounders the other one McClellin but is he a day one 4 down guy?
     
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    Posted by PatsLifer


    here you go lifer:

    http://www.nesn.com/2012/03/source-brian-hoyer-will-explore-opportunities-for-starting-quarterback-job-as-restricted-free-agent.html
     
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    adding to the myth lol

     
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    If you only had pick 27 (31 traded) and these are the guys available which of these do you take? Reyes DE/DT Smith S Hill WR C. Jones DE/OLB McClellin DE/OLB Jenkins CB Why do I keep thinking Reyes be nice but Smith is my choice, I really like the kid.  He IMO falls into the 4 down category BB looks for in 1st rounders the other one McClellin but is he a day one 4 down guy?
    Posted by Pats7393


    im a pass on smith.
    dpends how low jenkins is expectred to  fall. i think he goes top rd 2 unless we get him.

    id go brockers or still then jennkins or curry (and a trade up for jenkins top rd 2). you could also risk on another corner with good physical characterstics and hope they can be a good cover. wht jenkins you knwo hes played the best.
     
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    If you only had pick 27 (31 traded) and these are the guys available which of these do you take? Reyes DE/DT Smith S Hill WR C. Jones DE/OLB McClellin DE/OLB Jenkins CB Why do I keep thinking Reyes be nice but Smith is my choice, I really like the kid.  He IMO falls into the 4 down category BB looks for in 1st rounders the other one McClellin but is he a day one 4 down guy?
    Posted by Pats7393

    McClellin no doubt

    Reasoning:

    Reyes would be nice but I also think you can get Wolfe later in the draft or Martin and not have a large drop off in talent

    H. Smith to me is to similar to Chung and wouldn't be an ideal FS to BB. This past year BB trended towards quicker more athletic FS's that can also be a CB and Smith doesn't fit that bill imo

    Jones just isn't as good of a fit or as talented as McClellin imo

    Hill is very raw but with tremendous upside. If I'm making a pick at #27 though I'd want more of a sure thing. Beside McNutt and M Jones will be available later in the draft

    Jenkins, the more that comes out about him the less I want him. Now knowing in 08' he walked out on Meyes after a post game speech (which many of his fellow players didn't like), failing drug tests, being arrested for pot, being arrested for assault, getting thrown out of Florida (seriously when was the last time you saw that?), getting suspended on his new team for fighting on the field, 4 kids in 4 years with 3 women, and firing his agent with less then a month before the draft because of differences (I'll leave it at that since there are conflicting stories saying the agent couldn't put up with his diva qualities and Jenkins saying he wanted a smaller firm that could give him the attention he deserved) 

     
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    If you only had pick 27 (31 traded) and these are the guys available which of these do you take? Reyes DE/DT Smith S Hill WR C. Jones DE/OLB McClellin DE/OLB Jenkins CB Why do I keep thinking Reyes be nice but Smith is my choice, I really like the kid.  He IMO falls into the 4 down category BB looks for in 1st rounders the other one McClellin but is he a day one 4 down guy? Posted by Pats7393
    Hmmm...good question...let me start with saying who I wouldn't take.. I wouldn't take Reyes, Hill or Jone Jenkins and Smith on the fence. McClellin a possibility. This may be nitpicky, but I would feel better taking smith at 31 and McClellin at 31 and trading 27.
     
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    Posted by bredbru

    This report is from March 13th, he already signed his tender so he can't go around to other teams to find a starting job  :p

    Maybe they could find a way to trade him, however, it would be in their terms. He's also already came out and said that he's excited to come back as a Pat this year and the Pats have already said they see him as a potential starter. Now this could be to drive up a trade price or it could mean Brady's replacement is going to be a competition next year between Hoyer and Mallett. The winner stays the loser leaves (in Mallett's case it would be via trade next year)
     
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    In Response to Re: ***2012 Patriots Draft Thread*** : Well I can't see him being taken ahead of Cox or Poe at this point which should drop him at minimum out of the top 15. Past the top 15 there really aren't a ton of teams looking at a DT until Ten. If Ten wants to beef up their DL they will grab Brockers. If he slides past Ten the next team is Den. With Den they could go outside rusher, inside run stopper, or with Manning another WR option for him to throw to. Given it's Manning I think WR is an option to them which would drop Brockers to #27 with us Posted by PatsEng
    Agree on cox, but I can see brockers ahead of Poe. Poe's lack of production will catch up to him by draft day when the combine results wear off. Brockers is an all around better player than Poe and can play any position along the line. Given the depth at WR, I could see Denver waiting to take a WR later in the draft as well to grab an interior presence like brockers.
     
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    In response to "Re: ***2012 Patriots Draft Thread***": Agree on cox, but I can see brockers ahead of Poe. Poe's lack of production will catch up to him by draft day when the combine results wear off. Brockers is an all around better player than Poe and can play any position along the line. Given the depth at WR, I could see Denver waiting to take a WR later in the draft as well to grab an interior presence like brockers.
    Posted by PatsLifer

    Well the thing about Poe's lack of production is also Brockers problem, ie not enough time to prve production. I would call Brockers a one hit wonder but his numbers wouldn't even warrent that. What you are buying with both is potential. Poe showed more potential then Brockers at the combine but my money is still on Brockers (because he has a bigger motor and drive). Really it can go either way but with KC looking for a NT and Dal apparently in love with Poe if he gets past KC then Poe will be a top 15 pick, even though I don't think he is.

     
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    In Response to Re: ***2012 Patriots Draft Thread*** : Well the thing about Poe's lack of production is also Brockers problem, ie not enough time to prve production. I would call Brockers a one hit wonder but his numbers wouldn't even warrent that. What you are buying with both is potential. Poe showed more potential then Brockers at the combine but my money is still on Brockers (because he has a bigger motor and drive). Really it can go either way but with KC looking for a NT and Dal apparently in love with Poe if he gets past KC then Poe will be a top 15 pick, even though I don't think he is.
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    "Pats have already said they see him as a potential starter."


    i saw this too.
    this seems to me to be only related to seeing if they can scare up a team for  trade.

    i in no way see the pats considering hoyer ever as a starter for the pats
     
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    In Response to Re: ***2012 Patriots Draft Thread*** : Well the thing about Poe's lack of production is also Brockers problem, ie not enough time to prve production. I would call Brockers a one hit wonder but his numbers wouldn't even warrent that. What you are buying with both is potential. Poe showed more potential then Brockers at the combine but my money is still on Brockers (because he has a bigger motor and drive). Really it can go either way but with KC looking for a NT and Dal apparently in love with Poe if he gets past KC then Poe will be a top 15 pick, even though I don't think he is. Posted by PatsEng
    Agree. Actually poe's overall production is better than brockers. I think it depends on what you want. If kc is looking for an nt, Poe is the way to go because in part of his size and ability to eat space. Brockers to me is more of a de, or DT than a nt.
     
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    In Response to Re: ***2012 Patriots Draft Thread*** : I did think about about all those possibilities but here's my rational behind going the way I did: Car - I thought long and hard about Cox and Poe going to Car but I really can't justify either as top 10 picks in all honesty. Car has been linked to Kuechly a number of times and with Davis having question marks about staying on the field Car might take the BPA in the front 7 NYJ - With the Jets I thought about going D too but with Barron coming off the board I can't see them going CB early. DL, they invested a lot of money and draft picks into so I can't see them going DL early either. A rushing LB is possible but given the Holmes might talk himself off the team and there is no receivers behind Holmes they need some weapons or risk turning into a running team that can't run Chi - I really wanted to go OL with this pick but then I looked at the direction Chi has been taking and it's really gotten back to a smash mouth D where they will win or lose based on how the D performs. Given that I can see them wanting to tag another bookend across from Peppers. This pick though was the toughest Hou - This was easier then I thought it would be. With 4 WR's already off the board they can afford to wait for the next tier in the 2nd round. Here I have them taking a Williams replacement. If one of the 4 WR's I had previously mocked slip to Hou though I could easily see them taking a WR here I can't see Smith being taken at #31. He's to similar a player to Chung and doesn't fill the FS position as a coverage S. I think they are looking for a more athletic FS who's closer to a CB then a S to fill that role given BB's tends lately (moving McCourty to FS, Moore, Gregory)
    Posted by PatsEng

    Excellent rebuttal. Well thought out. I can no longer disagree.
     
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    In Response to Re: ***2012 Patriots Draft Thread*** : "Pats have already said they see him as a potential starter." i saw this too. this seems to me to be only related to seeing if they can scare up a team for  trade. i in no way see the pats considering hoyer ever as a starter for the pats
    Posted by bredbru


    I'm not sure why they couldn't see Hoyer as a potential replacement for Brady. Hoyer is a great game manager, much like Brady early in his career. True he doesn't have the strongest arm but you can also say the same about Brady when he first starter. You could also argue that he will be in his upper 20's when Brady's contract is up, but that never stopped SF from letting Young develop either.

    Truth is that they saw enough in Hoyer to have him as the only backup to Brady the year after Brady's injury and the following year after. Last year a top 15 talent QB fell into their laps in the 3rd. If for nothing else he's an investment. They can watch both play and decide who will become the better overall QB. If they feel it's Hoyer then they can trade Mallett for maybe a 2nd or even a 1st to a really desperate team. If they feel it's Mallett then they can let Hoyer go and maybe get a late comp pick for him, which isn't bad considering he was a UDFA to begin with. They could also trade him in the pre-season if there is an injury on another team for a mid to late round pick next year.

    I wouldn't exactly dismiss them as seeing him as Brady's future replacement just yet
     
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    Hey Guys,

    Thinking aloud here: What is the possibility that this is the first draft geared primarily towards improving our sub-package personell? Think about it, the Pats like most teams now play majority of their snaps in sub packages. With the advent of 3 and 4 wide receiver packages playing base personell leads to being heavily exploited in the pass game.

    The most common sub package we use is the 4-2-5. This past year Wilfork, Love and Deaderick were used as the primary DT's with Carter and Deaderick playing end and Anderson coming in at end for Deaderick in passing situations. While Deaderick and Love were capable in their roles, Deaderick is ideally suited as a 3-4 DE and Love as a backup nose to Vince.

    What if an investment is made in an over 300 pound DT that can rush the passer and anchor against the run that can be paired with Vince in a 40 front. What if instead of drafting a 250 pound OLB, we look at 275 pound DE's who can rush the passer and be stout against the run and can also play DT in passing situations.

    I would also look to add an ultra athletic Linebacker who excels in coverage and can hold his own against the run. Enough has been said about safety that I wont mention more of it in this post except to say that an extemely athletic line backer could be used as a 3rd safety in a 4-2-5 formation. If you think about some of the worst Defensive games the pats have played recently they have come against multiple receiver offenses where we played majority of our snaps in sub personell. That being said, the following would make sense,

    1 a---- Jared Crick 
    1 b---- Jerel Worthy
    2 a---- Bobby Wagner
    2 b---- Derek Wolfe
    3----Myles Burris
    4----Malik Jackson

    Malik Jackson intrigues me especially. He was played out of position in Tennessee as a DT but looked really good as a DE rushing the passer.

     
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    TY Hilton at 94.  He'll be our next Wes Welker.
     
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    I think this would be a pretty sweet draft:

    1a Brockers
    1b Barron
    2a McClellin
    2b Boykin
    3   Mike Martin
    4   Ben Jones

    I would prefer Cox over Brockers, but I don't think he falls that far.  It also isn't clear that Brockers or Barron will necessarily be available at these spots.  I could be convinced to take a WR over Boykin, but I'm not really sure who I would like at that spot (I like Boykin because he can play in the slot and is an explosive returner).  Not really clear if Martin lasts that far, so a WR pick there could work as well.  Last I checked Jones wasn't projected that high, but if it is total bs that he would be available in the 4th feel free to correct me.
     
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    Re: ***2012 Patriots Draft Thread***

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    I think this would be a pretty sweet draft: 1a Brockers 1b Barron 2a McClellin 2b Boykin 3   Mike Martin 4   Ben Jones I would prefer Cox over Brockers, but I don't think he falls that far.  It also isn't clear that Brockers or Barron will necessarily be available at these spots.  I could be convinced to take a WR over Boykin, but I'm not really sure who I would like at that spot (I like Boykin because he can play in the slot and is an explosive returner).  Not really clear if Martin lasts that far, so a WR pick there could work as well.  Last I checked Jones wasn't projected that high, but if it is total bs that he would be available in the 4th feel free to correct me.
    Posted by pcmIV

    Neither Brockers or Barron will be there at 27/31.  Brockers doesn't get past the Eagles at 15 and Barron doesn't make it past the Jets at 16.  Dallas could take Barron at 14 and KC could take Brockers at 11 so I would count both players out.

     
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