Re: ***2012 Patriots Draft Thread***
posted at 2/15/2012 1:41 PM EST
In Response to Re: ***2012 Patriots Draft Thread***
In Response to Re: ***2012 Patriots Draft Thread*** : Better yet, if HOU is stupid enough to try to sneak Foster through on a 1st round RFA tender, we use pick 31 for him, 27 for Hightower, sign Mario Williams, Brandon Carr and Brandon Lloyd. I'm pretty sure we could afford to do all of that if we release Matt Light. Our new starters for 2012 in a 2WR, 2TE, 1RB set. Offense: WR Brandon Lloyd TE Rob Gronkowski RT Sebastian Vollmer RG Brian Waters C Dan Connolly LG Logan Mankins LT Nate Solder TE Aaron Hernandez WR Wes Welker RB Arian Foster QB Tom Brady Defense, Base 34 RDE Mario Williams NT Vince Wilfork LDE Brandon Deaderick SOLB Rob Ninkovich MLB Jerod Mayo MLB Brandon Spikes WOLB Dont'a Hightower CB Ras-I Dowling SS Patrick Chung FS Devin McCourty CB Brandon Carr And we still have two 2ds, one 3rd and one 4th to play with. I'd probably go get Joe Adams at 96 and have him return kicks. Perhaps get Kevin Zeitler at 48 to have him start learning and get ready to take over at RG in 2013 or if Waters gets hurt. Now we have pick 63 and our 4th left and who cares? See Bill, it isn't that hard to put together a SB roster. You just have to spend money and draft smart.
Posted by Faucetman
Why would you release Matt Light when he and Waters were your best linemen last year? As well as Solder did as a rookie last year he was lifted in the SB for getting his rear-end whooped. Don't want to hear but he was playing on the right business , he played there all year. He's still a pup. Then you also downgrade your backup tackle spot by instead of having Solder who can swing you drop to Cannon who Scar has been on record as saying has done well but has a long way to go.
So the way you have the line in your scenario it is weaker than 2011 at both LT ,C, and backup swing tackle.
Then you go big for Foster when we don't even run the ball consistently and no I do not think that is a product of the quality of the running backs. Foster has only played 16 games once so far in 3 seasons. Foster in 2011 did no better than Benny in 2010, only more opportunities. Can Foster get this hurry up offense? This past season we barely ran and barely screened. Is McD suddenly going back to that? McD was more spread pass happy than BO. The Pats just spent two decent picks on backs who did not get a shot at a normal offseason and you already want to ignore them and go get someone new? They are still babies and we don't know what the Pats have their yet really.
Now you switch the Pats back to 3-4 and go after Mario. But instead of playing him at OLB you move him to DE? He just started a season last year averaging a sack a game until he got injured playing OLB in a 3-4. The Patriots were always speculated to transition Julius Peppers to OLB if they had gone after him and he has the same measurables as Mario basically. Mario doesn't fit the preferred 3-4 DE measuarble the Pats look for.
You move McCourtey to FS on the permanent when that move was simply desperation because the Pats couldn't solidify the safety spot and the backend was a mess. I think that's the wrong catalyst for making such a move permanent. McCourtey will be fine again with a solidified saftey position and backend and has already proven to play at a high level when those two things are in place.
Faucet I would rather you find a way to get something like the following to work out financially.Offense:
WR Take 2 options (Brandon Lloyd, Jackson, Colston, drafted WR)
TE Rob Gronkowski/3rd TE
RT Sebastian Vollmer/Solder
RG Brian Waters/Cannon
C Koppen/Dan Connolly
LG Logan Mankins/Cannon
LT Matt Light/Solder
TE Aaron Hernandez/3rd TE
WR Wes Welker/Edelman
QB Tom BradyDefense, Base 34
RDE Fletcher Cox or some other drafted DE of choice
NT Vince Wilfork
LDE Kendall Langford or other FA
SOLB Rob Ninkovich (drafted option hightower, Curry, etc)
MLB Jerod Mayo
MLB Brandon Spikes
WOLB Mario Williams
CB Ras-I Dowling
SS Patrick Chung
FS Take 2 options (Tyvon Branch, Huff, Nelson, Barron, IIoka, H. Smith)
CB Devin McCourty
Just my opinion. Feel free to hack away at it. :) ...and I am pretty sure it all couldn't be done financially anyway but fun to dream.