Re: ***2012 Patriots Draft Thread***
posted at 11/11/2011 1:41 PM EST
In Response to Re: ***2012 Patriots Draft Thread***
In Response to Re: ***2012 Patriots Draft Thread*** : BINGO! That is precisely what is needed. But, sadly it won't happen anytime soon. So, I guess that takes us back to the draft and prospective players. Any thoughts anyone on the right mix by position of need for FA's and Draftees? Meaning, at which positions do we draft and at which do we secure an FA? My personal opinion is that we compliment positions of need with drafted players. I also don't want to reinvest in the CB position. I want to bring in an FA to compliment McCourty, and see how Ras pans out and if Arrington/Molden, etc. can step their games up. Conversely on the Safety front, i want to draft a player to compliment Chung, and want to take this position high (round 2). Again, complimentary to Chung's skill set, more of a rangy, coverage safety, OR I'll take a big CB that can be converted. Thoughts?
Posted by PatsLifer
It's a tough question as they can likely pull starters at positions of potential need (CB/WR/S/C/LB) from both resources.
There are also a lot of variables at play and it's still very early in the season/draft evaluation process and we don't yet know the available talent pool in free agency, but I want them to take BPA, regardless of postition in Rd 1 (well, outside of QB of course). I also want them to either make both picks or move up for an impact player (on either side of the ball)... prob wishful thinking on both.*
Additionally, I think they could use a veteran presence in the secondary, so I'd like to see them address that area via free agency. At the end of the day, I still see them drafting atleast one DB within the first 3 rounds, but there's no question that this is a huge area of need moving forward. *
As for WR, their track record for drafting and developing the position under BB has been poor. They started out excellent, but haven't hit on anyone since drafting both Deion and Givens in the 2002 class, having taken Bethel Johnson, PK Sam, Chad Jackson, Brandon Tate, (Matt Slater wasn't really a WR) Julian Edelman (he's done little to nothing at the NFL level to be labeled a hit) and to date, Taylor Price (he has a chance to develop) since. Their FA/Trade history is a bit of a mixed bag, though I'd say that they've been far more successful through this route:Hits / Productive pick ups:
Wes Welker- TRADE
Randy Moss- TRADE
Deion Branch- TRADE
A lot of rookie free agents/scrubs (prob missing a few too) which is likely common with a lot of teams, but also some legit misses. Also had a few special teams studs (Sam Aiken, Kelley Washington etc.)
Doug Gabriel- TRADE'
Chad Johnson- TRADE*
I'm not really worried about the C position, but if the right guy is there high in the draft, they could definitely snag him, though history states otherwise. I think they're more likely to grab a kid in the middle to late rounds and develop him as they did Koppen.*
ILB however is a definite position of concern for me as arguably their two best inside 'backers (Mayo & Spikes) have both had durability issues as has potential up and comer Dane Fletcher. This is where I'd like to see them bring in some young talent (Te'o, Kuechly, Burfict, Hightower) and maybe an additional veteran to provide both depth and to help tutor the youngin'. *
OLB/43 DE is another perpetual need for this team, but they just don't seem willing to extend a high draft pick on a conversion guy, it'll be interesting to see how this plays out if they decide to stick to more 43. As for 34 OLB, Courtney Upshaw is and will likely continue to be the hot name as I believe he's already a 34 OLB under Saban.