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    In Response to Re: ***2012 Patriots Draft Thread***! UPDATED W/ MOCK V3 4/12! : I'm in agreeance.  I just don't see where Chandler Jones fits in, unless they're looking to go base 43 and I don't think that's what BB wants to do.
    Posted by mbeaulieu07


    Ditto. 
     
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    For the record, nepatriotsdraft.com, a very good site for all things NE draft related, have the following as their final mock:

    27 Chandler Jones  DE/OLB? Syracuse  (He's rising fast, I doubt he's there at this point, but would be pretty happy with the pick if he was.)
    31  Vinny Curry  DE/OLB Marshall   (I really think they're just trying to hit on 1 on the 2 first rounders.  Extremely slim odds of both 1sts being used on conversion guys.)
    48  Trumaine Johnson CB/S Montana (If we miss on H. Smith, I'd be fine with nabbing Johnson here,)
    62 Lavonte David  LB Neb  (Love the pick, but would be suprised if he lasts this long)
    93 Ron Brooks CB/S LSU  (Love the pick, MB was on this guy well before the experts)
    126 Greg Childs WR Arkansas  (Love this one too.  Mocked it myself)

    I know many on this board aren't as high on Jones as I am, but I love his upside and think he is rising on boards for a reason.  I would love to see BB go after a guy like this, but it's looking like he's gone within the Top 20 at this point.  I don't like Curry paired with Jones, but other than that this would be a nice haul.

     
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    Anyone else see Mark Barron going in the top ten?  I don't think there's any player all experts like as much as Barron (aside from top 5 studs)
     
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    Posted by mbeaulieu07


    Where did Jones come from? I mean, the kid was relatively obscure until a month or so ago. Now Mayock declares him, "the best defender in this year's draft"?, potentially pushing his stock up to top 10? really? 

    My take on him is he is a pure 4-3 DE. I don't think he's a kid that can be converted to 3-4 OLB. The best bet is to bulk him up a bit, and have him play 4-3 DE. In the Pats system, assuming they play the 3-4 base, he's Carter or Anderson's replacement. No way I would use a 1st on this kid, or trade up for that...
     
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    Is anyone else getting a nagging feeling that we're going to draft Stephen Hill, WR GA Tech at 27?  Seems like the perfect reason for throwing out the late Kendall Wright smokescreen (if it in fast was a smokescreen...)  Not many have paired Hill with NE, and it seems like our first rounders are usually picks that very few people see coming.  Seems like a pick that no one would really expect BB to make, and that's exactly why I think it could happen.  McD could have a little influence here too.  I, for one, would be pretty disappointed if we gambled on the raw wideout.  I don't think he would be much of a contributer next season. 
     
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    Anyone else see Mark Barron going in the top ten?  I don't think there's any player all experts like as much as Barron (aside from top 5 studs)
    Posted by Pats7393


    Yeah, I think that when it's all sudden done, Barron doesn't get by Buffalo at #10.  That's why I've kind of given up on the possibility of NE trading up for him.  If he even gets to SEA at #12, I think it's possible that BB could work a trade (possibly involving Hoyer) to move up and get Barron, and I would be thrilled with the move.
     
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    In Response to Re: ***2012 Patriots Draft Thread***! UPDATED W/ MOCK V3 4/12! : Where did Jones come from? I mean, the kid was relatively obscure until a month or so ago. Now Mayock declares him, "the best defender in this year's draft"?, potentially pushing his stock up to top 10? really?  My take on him is he is a pure 4-3 DE. I don't think he's a kid that can be converted to 3-4 OLB. The best bet is to bulk him up a bit, and have him play 4-3 DE. In the Pats system, assuming they play the 3-4 base, he's Carter or Anderson's replacement. No way I would use a 1st on this kid, or trade up for that...
    Posted by PatsLifer


    Yeah, he missed 5 games this season, didn't throw up huge #'s, then declared for the draft right at the deadline I believe so he wasn't a household name.  The project is purely based on upside at this point.
     
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    In Response to Re: ***2012 Patriots Draft Thread***! UPDATED W/ MOCK V3 4/12! : Yeah, he missed 5 games this season, didn't throw up huge #'s, then declared for the draft right at the deadline I believe so he wasn't a household name.  The project is purely based on upside at this point. Posted by mbeaulieu07
    I think Mayock and Lombardi are 2 of the better draft analysts, but to put this,kid in the top 10 and "best defensive player in the draft" purely on upside seems a bit of a stretch. Anyhow, I hope he goes high because others I want us to target might be there. Agreeon everyone's comments on Barron. I think he could be a top 10'pick. This is what I was saying earlier in the week..if buffalo grabs him, could smith be in play for Dallas at 14? Crazy to think, but a possibility. Mb...Lewis is going to go higher than 62. I don't see him getting past the jets or Dallas in round 2. This is my concern. If we want him, our best bet might be a slight trade down with 31, and nab him around 40.
     
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    I'm really not sold on Childs honestly.

    The reason I saw that is his PCL injury. He was a top 15 type of talent before his injury but I've torn my PCL and I can tell you that you never fully recover. Your knee never feels the same and you do lose a lot of movement in that knee. Before anyone questions that I'm not an athlete so how would I know, I was a all-state track runner sub 11s 100m times with scholarship offers from multiple schools at the time. I then tore (to different grades) my ACL, MCL, and PCL in a single instance. I might have recovered from an ACL or even the MCL but because my PCL was also affected schools were so concerned that they dropped the offers on the spot. I had surgery to repair what they could but even 12 years later I still have issues in my knee and I can feel it stiffen up. I didn't lose all mobility but there is no way I could plant and cut the way I use to and I wasn't nearly as explosives planting that I use to be.

    I see the same things with Childs. When you look at his negatives they mostly deal with his CoD speed, or that he looks stiff, or that he doesn't have the explosiveness to separate from a CB. IMO this is all because of his knee and if it is then he'll never gain those abilities back. Doesn't mean he can't play but he might never return to his 09' form. Though I think he's learning to compensate for these short comings but his route running, being more physical at the line, better deceptive moves to gain separation, and improving his catching radius I wonder if he's destined to become a short to intermediate quick slant type of possession WR who will gain separation from a jam at the line or a quick move then box out the defender with his large size. He might not get a lot of yac and become more of a go to guy in short yardage situations.
     
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    Is anyone else getting a nagging feeling that we're going to draft Stephen Hill, WR GA Tech at 27?  Seems like the perfect reason for throwing out the late Kendall Wright smokescreen (if it in fast was a smokescreen...)  Not many have paired Hill with NE, and it seems like our first rounders are usually picks that very few people see coming.  Seems like a pick that no one would really expect BB to make, and that's exactly why I think it could happen.  McD could have a little influence here too.  I, for one, would be pretty disappointed if we gambled on the raw wideout.  I don't think he would be much of a contributer next season. 
    Posted by WazzuWheatfarmer


    I can't see them taking a WR before #63 honestly. Not with all the WR moves this off-season and the depth of talent at the position. I think Wright was more a move that Wright might be falling and the Pats could be creating interest for a trade like they did last year with Ingram
     
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    Is anyone else getting a nagging feeling that we're going to draft Stephen Hill, WR GA Tech at 27?  Seems like the perfect reason for throwing out the late Kendall Wright smokescreen (if it in fast was a smokescreen...)  Not many have paired Hill with NE, and it seems like our first rounders are usually picks that very few people see coming.  Seems like a pick that no one would really expect BB to make, and that's exactly why I think it could happen.  McD could have a little influence here too.  I, for one, would be pretty disappointed if we gambled on the raw wideout.  I don't think he would be much of a contributer next season.  Posted by WazzuWheatfarmer
    Could be. I wouldn't be a fan of Hill to the Pats, not with our other needs on D taking higher priority. This seems like a luxury pick. I am done with drafting kids high and having them sit on the bench for a year or two. I expect a kid at 27 to be a major contributor year 1.
     
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    Is anyone else getting a nagging feeling that we're going to draft Stephen Hill, WR GA Tech at 27?  Seems like the perfect reason for throwing out the late Kendall Wright smokescreen (if it in fast was a smokescreen...)  Not many have paired Hill with NE, and it seems like our first rounders are usually picks that very few people see coming.  Seems like a pick that no one would really expect BB to make, and that's exactly why I think it could happen.  McD could have a little influence here too.  I, for one, would be pretty disappointed if we gambled on the raw wideout.  I don't think he would be much of a contributer next season. 
    Posted by WazzuWheatfarmer


    There's not bigger Hill fan than I am but I don't think he's an option.  It will take Hill two years to learn all the route running.  I much rather if a WR is going to be one of the top two picks, the pick be Rueben Randle.  He's a more complete receiver, doesn't have track speed but uses his size and strength.

    Another thing I really like is he reminded me of Hynes Ward last season.  Saw him engaged in blocks down the field, very physical.  I think although Hill has a much higher ceiling Randle has a much higher floor. At worse Randle is a #2 for the rest of Brady's career.

     
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    In Response to Re: ***2012 Patriots Draft Thread***! UPDATED W/ MOCK V3 4/12! : This wreaks of Robertson in 03', Gholston in 08', Tebow in 10', and Ingram in 11' to me. It was also reported that they might trade up for Barron and they really want McClellin. In addition it was 'leaked' yesterday that they had a 11th hour workout with Kendell Wright the WR. Whenever you hear about these players drawing a lot of interest from the Pats right before the draft then it's likely they won't be taken and the Pats are trying to drum up interest to make another player fall or to entice a trade. Right now at #31 players I see rumors about that might cause a team to trade up are: K Wright D Martin J Jenkins Players I've heard lose connection of interest but nothing concrete: M Brockers C Upshaw H Smith Players I've heard direct connection from sources are: S McClellin M Barron C Jones Now odds say that they loose connections are the most likely targets or players that they've brought in for looks but have no connection: Wolfe Irvin Perry David Lewis So those would be the names I'd be looking out for Posted by PatsEng
    Seems logical. Of your loose connections list brought in for looks...I will take Wolfe and Lewis from that list. I am passing on Reyes and still in this draft. If we don't move up for brockers, Wolfe is next on my list to target. I would also target mclellin first, and if he's gone, Lewis is my pick in round 2. Assuming Wolfe and Lewis could be had in round 2 and we missed out on brockers, smith, upshaw, etc, the pats could very well trade both firsts to load up in rounds 2 and 3, maybe a 1 next year. I see this scenario as completely plausible. If the case, assuming we end up with 3 2nd round picks and 2 3rd round picks, i would be happy assuming they got Wolfe, Lewis, a cb, another DT like Martin, and maybe Markelle Martin or the kid from lsu to play safety
     
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    Is anyone else getting a nagging feeling that we're going to draft Stephen Hill, WR GA Tech at 27?  Seems like the perfect reason for throwing out the late Kendall Wright smokescreen (if it in fast was a smokescreen...)  Not many have paired Hill with NE, and it seems like our first rounders are usually picks that very few people see coming.  Seems like a pick that no one would really expect BB to make, and that's exactly why I think it could happen.  McD could have a little influence here too.  I, for one, would be pretty disappointed if we gambled on the raw wideout.  I don't think he would be much of a contributer next season. 
    Posted by WazzuWheatfarmer


    I'm with you on this one. I believe there is a bigger drop in talent after the 1st round on the offensive side (impact to good) than the defensive side (pretty good to good) and thus think BB will target WR/OL in the 1st round. Most of the available DEs, DTs, LBs and DBs you can draw names from a hat and be equal on talent
     
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    In Response to Re: ***2012 Patriots Draft Thread***! UPDATED W/ MOCK V3 4/12! : I'm with you on this one. I believe there is a bigger drop in talent after the 1st round on the offensive side (impact to good) than the defensive side (pretty good to good) and thus think BB will target WR/OL in the 1st round. Most of the available DEs, DTs, LBs and DBs you can draw names from a hat and be equal on talent
    Posted by sfpat


    I'm not sure about your impact players on the O side comment. Take out Floyd and Blackmon and the rest you can toss into a bag until the end of the 2nd as all have provides. Sanu and Jeffery have questions about separation at the next level, Hill is extremely raw, Wright some question if he will be anything more then a fast slot guy, McNutt and Jones question on production, Randle about his route running. Any and all of them could be great but all have been labeled fringe #1 WR's more then likely #2 WR types.

    With OL I really can't see them taking an OL early. If Vollmers back is healthy they have Vollmer (RT), Solder (LT), Cannon (RG), and Mankins (LG) as starters moving forward. If Vollmers back isn't healthy then they have 3 Solder (LT), Canno (RT), Mankins (LG). They are also high on McDonald as a future starting C which he looked pretty good when taking over for Connolly. Needs some more polishing but looks pretty decent. So, really worst case they are looking at an eventual C and a RG. RG's you typically don't target early and some of the Pats best RG's have come in the 5+ range. C is a possibility but then you are talking Konz. Konz should be an immediate starter so why sign Connolly and Koppen both if they were thinking Konz? Past Konz all guys need some work but with Scar they could take a player like Molk in the middle of the draft rather then spending high on a C. I just don't see OL being taken early this year unless they are convinced that there are no RG prospects they could groom over a year period to replace Waters if Vollmers health is an issue and Cannon will be the long term RT
     
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    Bedard had a good article about the Pat's priming for 2013 season with this draft. He said they could field a team w/o this years draft that would be favored to win, as it is.

    Similar to what Faucet put out a while back with contract status of our roster.

    I see them taking a player of value with 27, whoever drops that fits BB's quality pick strategy.

    I see us trading 31. I think at the end of the weekend, we will have 2 new front seven players, 2 secondary players, and one WR...

    I'll post actual names after my next meeting...just to go on record...LOL
     
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    Don't know if it's true or not, but I had hard that draft telecasts will not be showing prospects on the phone this year... essentially giving up the pick beforer it's announced... I love the idea.  I also don't wanna have to drive to New York to smash LaCanfora (Similar to Silatolu vs. DII competition) for telling us who the pick will be seconds before Goodell announces it... go write an article and stop ruining sh^t buddy! Don't make me angry, Jason, you wouldn't like me when I'm angry.

    There, I feel better.
     
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    In Response to Re: ***2012 Patriots Draft Thread***! UPDATED W/ MOCK V3 4/12! : I'm not sure about your impact players on the O side comment. Take out Floyd and Blackmon and the rest you can toss into a bag until the end of the 2nd as all have provides. Sanu and Jeffery have questions about separation at the next level, Hill is extremely raw, Wright some question if he will be anything more then a fast slot guy, McNutt and Jones question on production, Randle about his route running. Any and all of them could be great but all have been labeled fringe #1 WR's more then likely #2 WR types. With OL I really can't see them taking an OL early. If Vollmers back is healthy they have Vollmer (RT), Solder (LT), Cannon (RG), and Mankins (LG) as starters moving forward. If Vollmers back isn't healthy then they have 3 Solder (LT), Canno (RT), Mankins (LG). They are also high on McDonald as a future starting C which he looked pretty good when taking over for Connolly. Needs some more polishing but looks pretty decent. So, really worst case they are looking at an eventual C and a RG. RG's you typically don't target early and some of the Pats best RG's have come in the 5+ range. C is a possibility but then you are talking Konz. Konz should be an immediate starter so why sign Connolly and Koppen both if they were thinking Konz? Past Konz all guys need some work but with Scar they could take a player like Molk in the middle of the draft rather then spending high on a C. I just don't see OL being taken early this year unless they are convinced that there are no RG prospects they could groom over a year period to replace Waters if Vollmers health is an issue and Cannon will be the long term RT
    Posted by PatsEng


    Wright and/or Hill (the next Randy Moss?) can be impact type receivers. Light just retired, Walters has one more year tops, Mankins has ACL injury. BB may want a top level lineman as insurance to keep Brady upright. Remember, BB is thinking both long term and short term. As Bedard stated, the Pats are SB favorites with no new rookies. BB always goes against the grain.
     
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    In Response to Re: ***2012 Patriots Draft Thread***! UPDATED W/ MOCK V3 4/12! : Wright and/or Hill (the next Randy Moss?) can be impact type receivers. Light just retired, Walters has one more year tops, Mankins has ACL injury. BB may want a top level lineman as insurance to keep Brady upright. Remember, BB is thinking both long term and short term. As Bedard stated, the Pats are SB favorites with no new rookies. BB always goes against the grain.
    Posted by sfpat


    Wright or Hill the next Randy Moss? Are you serious? Moss was the most talented WR to come out of the draft in the 10 yrs prior and up until C Johnson. The only reason he fell was because of off-field issues. Wright is falling because teams are concerned he won't be as affective in the pro's as in college and Hill is so raw he's compared to Thomas in Den. He has a ton of potential given his triangle numbers but so did Gholston. They have potential to be #1 WR's but to call them the next Moss is laughable at best

    With the OL I pointed out the names Light retirement doesn't affect that we have 3 starting caliber T's in Solder, Vollmer, and Cannon so why draft high to replace Light? We did that last year

    Waters doesn't look like he's retiring this year by all indications and if Vollmer's back is healthy next season Cannon will be moved to RG as a starter when Waters retires. But, beyond that who spends a 1st or a 2nd on a RG? Certainly not Scar.

    Mankins you might have a point but they just paid him a ton of money. If his knee recovers (which no a days everyone recovers from ACL injures) do you really want a 1st round pick sitting on his thumbs while Mankins starts?

    It's nice to have depth but you don't draft depth early. You draft starters early otherwise BB would draft a backup QB in the 1st every 4 years just in case Brady gets injured
     
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    Below is my Final Draft Board:

    Rd 1Rd 1-2Rd 2
    S- Mark  BarronS- Harrison SmithDE/OLB- Vinny Curry
    DL- Michael BrockersDE/OLB- Shea McClellinCB-Josh Robinson
    OLB- Courtney UpshawRB- Doug MartinOLB- Ronnell Lewis
    CB- Dre KirkpatrickDL- Kendall ReyesWR- Alshon Jeffery
    LB- Dont'a HightowerDL- Brandon ThompsonOG- Amini Silatolu
    CB/S- Stephon GilmoreOT- Bobby Massie
    WR- Mohamed Sanu
    Rd 2-3Rd 3Rd 3-4
    DL- Alameda Ta'amuDL- Derek WolfeWR- Greg Childs
    WR- Marvin JonesDE/OLB- Cam JohnsonWR- Joe Adams
    OLB- Bruce IrvinS- George IlokaOG/OT- Senio Kelemete
    CB- Janoris JenkinsCB- Casey HaywardCB/S- Ron Brooks
    CB- Jayron HosleyDL- Josh Chapman
    CB- Brandon BoykinDE/OLB- Jake Bequette
    WR- Ryan Broyles
    CB- Shaun Prater
    Rd 4Rd's 5-URFARd 1-4:  Keeping an eye on
    WR- Devon WylieOLB- Miles BurrisDL- Hebron Fangupo
    OG- Joe LooneyOLB- Darius FlemingDL- Malik Jackson
    LB- Audie ColeOLB- Vince BrowneDE/OLB- Vinny Curry
    S- Brandon TaylorOLB- Tyler NielsenOLB- Kyle Wilber
    DE/OLB- Brett RoyLB- Nigel Bradham
    DE/OLB- Justin FrancisCB- Chase Minnifield
    DE/OLB- Julian MillerCB- Leonard Johnson
    DE/OLB- Tim FuggerCB- Omar Bolden
    DE/OLB- Louis NzegwuS- Markelle Martin
    DE/OLB- Scott SolomonS- Antonio Allen
    DE/OLB- Jamie BlatnickOT/OG- Jeff Allen
    DE/OLB- Frank AlexanderOT/OG- Tony Bergstrom
    DL- Travian RoberstonOT/OG- Brandon Washington
    DL- JR SweezyOT- Zebrie Sanders
    DL- Markus KuhnOT- Mitchell Schwartz
    DL- Matt ConrathOT- Brandon Mosley
    DL- Taylor ThompsonOG Kevin Zeitler
    DL- Dominique HamiltonOG- Lucas Nix
    DL- Ryan Van BergenC- Phillip Blake
    DL- Ethan JohnsonC- Ben Jones
    DL- Jaye HowardWR- Rueben Randle
    DL- Kheeston RandallWR- Jarius Wright
    DL- Armond ArmsteadWR- Marvin McNutt
    LB- Noah MillerWR- TY Hilton
    LB- Jerry FranklinRB- Chris Polk
    LB- Vontaze BurfictRB- Bernard Pierce
    LB- Tank CarderRB-  Robert Turbin
    LB- DJ HoltRB- Vick Ballard
    LB- Nathan StuparRB- LaMichael James
    S- Brandon HardinRB- Chris Rainey
    S- Jerron McMillianTE- Coby Fleener
    S- Dequan Menzie
    S- Jordan Bernstine
    S- Matt Daniels
    S- Johnson Bademosi
    CB/S- Neiko Thorpe
    CB/S- Robert Blanton
    CB/S- Coryell Judie
    CB- Asa Jackson
    CB- Coty Sensabaugh
    OG/OT- Markus Zusevics
    OG/OT- Nate Potter
    OT/OG- Tom Compton
    OT- Andrew Datko
    OT- Bryce Harris
    OT- Donald Stephenson
    OT- Dennis Kelly
    OG- Adam Gettis
    OG- Desmond Wynn
    C/OG- Quentin Saulsberry
    TE- Brad Herman
    TE- George Bryan
    TE- Chase Ford
    TE- Kevin Koger
    RB- Jonas Gray
    RB- Joe Martinek
    RB- Michael Smith
    RB- Terrance Ganaway
    RB- Brandon Bolden
    RB- Jeremy Stewart
    RB- Davin Meggett
    WR- Danny Coale
    WR- Marquis Maze
    WR- Keyshawn Martin
    WR- TJ Graham
    WR- Kashif Moore
    WR- Chris Owusu
    WR- Aaron Pflugrad
    WR- Tyler Shoemaker
    QB- Ryan Lindley
    QB- Austin Davis
    QB- Dan Persa
    QB- John Brantley 
     
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    Personnally, I wouldn't spend a top 15 pick on Barron...the lack of safety talent is driving him up; plus where he played and who he played with.

    I really don't see that huge of a difference between him and Smith of ND. Smith actually shows a greater propensity for big plays then Barron and Barron has been hurt.

    Who other than Ed Reed is really a game changer? I mean Eric Weddle got a huge contract and in my humble opinion, isn't much....

    Would rather take another corner, maybe a bigger one and put them back there to compete with McCourty. The better cover guy plays corner...

    Think of some of the best safeties in the game today...Ed Reed, selected 24th, Troy Polamalu 16th, Earl Thomas 14th, Eric Berry (might be good) 5th, and Adrian Wilson - round 3.

    Do we think Mark Barron is going to be Ed Reed, Troy Polamalu, or even Earl Thomas good?

    I don't...so why draft him high....

     
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    Re: ***2012 Patriots Draft Thread***! UPDATED W/ MOCK V3 4/12!

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    Personnally, I wouldn't spend a top 15 pick on Barron...the lack of safety talent is driving him up; plus where he played and who he played with. I really don't see that huge of a difference between him and Smith of ND. Smith actually shows a greater propensity for big plays then Barron and Barron has been hurt. Who other than Ed Reed is really a game changer? I mean Eric Weddle got a huge contract and in my humble opinion, isn't much.... Would rather take another corner, maybe a bigger one and put them back there to compete with McCourty. The better cover guy plays corner... Think of some of the best safeties in the game today...Ed Reed, selected 24th, Troy Polamalu 16th, Earl Thomas 14th, Eric Berry (might be good) 5th, and Adrian Wilson - round 3. Do we think Mark Barron is going to be Ed Reed, Troy Polamalu, or even Earl Thomas good? I don't...so why draft him high....
    Posted by mcboyd22


    I've been saying it for months, Mark Barron is one of the best defensive players in this class and is a clear Rd 1 talent, period... he can do it all on the football field and gives a DC a ton of flexibility.  I think he's worth every penny of the 15th pick, assuming he's taken that high.
     
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