***2012 Patriots Draft Thread***! THANKS TO ALL WHO PARTICIPATED!

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    Wilson just another pick in a long line surprises, some more than others Will be interesting to see how it works out. 7 teams brought Wilson in for "official" visits. Don't always pay super close attention to official visits but do teams really bring in UDFA types for official visits? They might, I have no idea. Mayo Mankins Vollmer Slater B. Johnson M. Carter Just have to assume his pro day and private workout with the Pats was impressive. I hope.
    Posted by Low-FB-IQ


    I'm with you, I haven't seen film didn't see the kid in workouts, no combine so for this DB have to wait and see.  He sounded in his radio interview like he got some pretty good attention at his pro day and private workouts.

    Situational football, this kid to me excelled so much at something that BB and staff recognized a role.  I might had drank some coolaid earlier but for now I'm not letting the one pick overshadow what has been a very good draft.

    The DL and LBs has been improved, specially the sub and 43 package.  I really like Bequette, this kid I've liked for a long time and I think he's a better athlete than given credit for as I written before, led the SEC in sacks enough said. Solid player who can play multiple positions, same with Jones and Hightower.  

     
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    Re: ***2012 Patriots Draft Thread***! UPDATED W/ MOCK V3 4/12!

    Players I hope to see BB target on Day 2:

    Ron BrooksCB
    Shaun Prater CB
    Coty SensabaughCB
    Omar BoldenCB
    Leonard JohnsonCB
    Chase MinnifieldCB
    Brandon BoykinCB
    Robert Blanton  S
    Jordan BernstineS
    Neiko ThorpeS
    Coryell JudieS
    George IlokaS
    Alameda Ta'amuDL
    Hebron FangupoDL
    Matt ConrathDL
    Armond ArmsteadDL
    Travian RobertsonDL
    Kheeston RandallDL
    Taylor ThompsonDL
    Ronnell LewisLB
    Miles BurrisLB
    Danny Coale WR
    Greg ChildsWR
    Marvin JonesWR
    Joe AdamsWR
    Jarious WrightWR
    Devon WylieWR
    Marquis MazeWR
    Keyshawn MartinWR
    Quentin SaulsberryC/OG
    Phillip BlakeC/OG
    Senio KelemeteOG
    Joe LooneyOG
    Bobby MassieOT
    Bryce HarrisOT/OG
    Jonas GrayRB
    Chris RaineyRB
    Lamar MillerRB
    Vick BallardRB
    Terrance GanawayRB
    Davin MeggettRB
    John BrantleyQB
     
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    Re: ***2012 Patriots Draft Thread***! UPDATED W/ MOCK V3 4/12!

    Nice read:

    Tavon Wilson's pick

     
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    In Response to Re: ***2012 Patriots Draft Thread***! UPDATED W/ MOCK V3 4/12! : hilton is goen, is adams still there. got too depressed to listen for a while.. im jsut glad we made a pick i agree on teh offense/kr rainey might be one of teh few left (offesne adn kr). i will have to check scott may be a waste or others as i dont see all teh edge players playing. agree on cuningham. my opinion of him never changed. do like bequette as a player dt i thought more than another edge guy. i didnt mean after this pick (i meant as opposed to) any big wrs left?
    Posted by bredbru

    I missed Hilton coming off the board.  I was so depressed after 48, that I went out on the ledge with a bottle of jack and sleeping pills along with my Glock, a piece of rope, some razor blades, rat poison, arsenic and torn parachute.  I was out there for awhile while the fire dept tried to talk me back in.  We have to wait what, 62 picks? 

    Pick 48 was a throw away pick.  We could of had a 10 year stud at Center, a top flight WR, etc.  We did nothing to address our biggest need, secondary help.  Allen is 34 and Gregory was washed up in SD.  I loved the Hightower and Bequette picks and am optimistic about Chandler Jones but I give him a C because of durability concerns until he proves otherwise.   

    I see Cunningham as redundant and he will be cut.  We are over budget 1 on D so maybe we'll start Brace on the PUP list again.  Offensively I think we can hide Koppen and Gonzales on the PUP list as insurance and have room for a KR/PR type either a WR or RB.  Adams, Rainey, Wright perhaps?

    On the bright side we are freakin loaded on offense.  We definitely should be better on Defense too but we better be able to get after the QB because we aren't better in the secondary.  Dowling has to stay healthy for us to be better back there.

    OFFENSE 24 Players
    Slot31 W Welker '1226 Edelman '12Gonzales PUP
    WR31 B. Lloyd '1534 C. Ochocincho 
    LOT23 N Solder '15  
    LG31 Mankins '16R Gallery 
    C30 Connolly '1532 D Koppen PUP 
    ROG35 Brian Waters26 Wendell '13 
    RT27 Vollmer '1224 M. Cannon '14 
    TE23 Gronkowski '1322 Hernandez '13D. Fells
    QB35 Tom Brady '1425 Hoyer '1224 Mallett '14
    RB23 S. Veeren '1426 Woodhead '12 
    23 S. Ridley '14S. Larson 
       
    WR34 D. Branch '12D. Stallworth 
        
    DEFENSE 26 Players
    DE 21 C. Jones25 Deaderick '13T. Scott
    DT30 Wilfork '1425 R. Brace '12 
    DT26 Love '1126 Pryor '13 
    DE30 J. Fanine '1390 J. Bequette 
    WLB26 Mayo '1625 D Fletcher '12 
    MLB25 B Spikes '1330 White '12 
    SLB25 D. Hightower29 Ninkovich '13B. Carpenter
    LCB23 Dowling '1423 S Moore '12W. Allen
    RCB26 McCourty '1426 Arrington '12 
    SS25 Chung '1227 J. Barrett '12 
    FS48 T. WilsonS. Gregory27 M Slater '14
     
    SPECIAL TEAMS 3
    PK28 Gostkowski '14  
    P25 Z. Mesko '13  
    LS24 D Aiken  
     
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    Re: ***2012 Patriots Draft Thread***! UPDATED W/ MOCK V3 4/12!

    I think to me there's only one option with that 5th pick.
    Ryan Miller Colorado, played OG but has OT qualities, 6'8" 321 lbs.  Above average power, keeps his leverage inside even at 6'8".  Moves really well in space, I think he could be a player that could play everything but OC.
     
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    Nice read on Wilson on that espn site. Obviously this could go either way based on the pats success with no name players like vollmer for example that the article references. He's also missed on higher profile players like butler, etc. so nothing is given. Overall, I don't believe the pats do a good job analyzing secondary prospects given we have missed on so many early in the draft...some household names, others off the radar types. I want to give them the benefit of the doubt because he is BB on this one. At then end of the day, I don't think it matters necessarily where this kid is picked. If he works out as a second rounder great. If not. We have missed on other kids who deserve a second round grade
     
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    Players I hope to see BB target on Day 2:
    Posted by mbeaulieu07


    I watched and would be satisfied if Pats picked
    Ron Brooks CB
    Coty Sensabaugh CB
    Brandon Boykin CB
    George Iloka S
    Alameda Ta'amu DL (they now have personnel for teams they want to beat with speed; this is a missing piece for a d against teams they'll want to beat by ovepowering up front. if available in the 5th, then this is a value pickup)
    Greg Childs WR
    Marvin Jones WR
    Joe Adams WR
    Phillip Blake C/OG (a stronger c for tb, but i am also thinking for mallett in the future)

    I watched; I am neutral
    Miles Burris LB (really like him but already stocked on good LBs)
    Ronnell Lewis LB
    Neiko Thorpe S
    Davin Meggett RB
    Marquis Maze WR
    Senio Kelemete OG

    I watched play and I don't like
    Lamar Miller RB (looks to me as someone who runs too much like maroney)
    Chase Minnifield CB (i saw him give up on a td play which was completely within his reach)

    I did not see: also don't want to make an opinion based on what others have written:

    Shaun Prater  CB Omar Bolden CB Leonard Johnson CB   Robert Blanton   S Jordan Bernstine S Coryell Judie S Hebron Fangupo DL Matt Conrath DL Armond Armstead DL Travian Robertson DL Kheeston Randall DL Taylor Thompson DL  Danny Coale  WR    Jarious Wright WR Devon Wylie WR Keyshawn Martin WR Quentin Saulsberry C/OG   Joe Looney OG Bobby Massie OT Bryce Harris OT/OG Jonas Gray RB Chris Rainey RB Vick Ballard RB Terrance Ganaway RB  John Brantley QB
     
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    Wilson just another pick in a long line surprises, some more than others Will be interesting to see how it works out. 7 teams brought Wilson in for "official" visits. Don't always pay super close attention to official visits but do teams really bring in UDFA types for official visits? They might, I have no idea. Mayo Mankins Vollmer Slater B. Johnson M. Carter Just have to assume his pro day and private workout with the Pats was impressive. I hope.
    Posted by Low-FB-IQ



    That's nice. But it doesn't mean any of them were ready to take him in the 2nd round.
     
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    In Response to Re: ***2012 Patriots Draft Thread***! UPDATED W/ MOCK V3 4/12! : That's nice. But it doesn't mean any of them were ready to take him in the 2nd round.
    Posted by sml1210


    You're right, and because that statement is correct it also means that the opposite is possibly true. All of even just one other may have been ready to. We just don't know.

    Part of the process of evaluations is also relying on coaches who's opinion you trust and coached a particular player.

    There is a story that the IL coach told BB that he thought his guy was better than most of the other guys getting the pub. ??
     
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    there goes jarious
     
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    In Response to Re: ***2012 Patriots Draft Thread***! UPDATED W/ MOCK V3 4/12! : I watched and would be satisfied if Pats picked Ron Brooks CB Coty Sensabaugh CB Brandon Boykin CB George Iloka S Alameda Ta'amu DL (they now have personnel for teams they want to beat with speed; this is a missing piece for a d against teams they'll want to beat by ovepowering up front. if available in the 5th, then this is a value pickup) Greg Childs WR Marvin Jones WR Joe Adams WR Phillip Blake C/OG (a stronger c for tb, but i am also thinking for mallett in the future) I watched; I am neutral Miles Burris LB (really like him but already stocked on good LBs) Ronnell Lewis LB Neiko Thorpe S Davin Meggett RB Marquis Maze WR Senio Kelemete OG I watched play and I don't like Lamar Miller RB (looks to me as someone who runs too much like maroney) Chase Minnifield CB (i saw him give up on a td play which was completely within his reach) I did not see: also don't want to make an opinion based on what others have written: Shaun Prater  CB Omar Bolden CB Leonard Johnson CB   Robert Blanton   S Jordan Bernstine S Coryell Judie S Hebron Fangupo DL Matt Conrath DL Armond Armstead DL Travian Robertson DL Kheeston Randall DL Taylor Thompson DL  Danny Coale  WR    Jarious Wright WR Devon Wylie WR Keyshawn Martin WR Quentin Saulsberry C/OG   Joe Looney OG Bobby Massie OT Bryce Harris OT/OG Jonas Gray RB Chris Rainey RB Vick Ballard RB Terrance Ganaway RB  John Brantley QB
    Posted by seattlepat70


    Ron Brooks is the kid that I want the most... would be happy with any of the listed.
     
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    In Response to Re: ***2012 Patriots Draft Thread***! UPDATED W/ MOCK V3 4/12! : Ron Brooks is the kid that I want the most... would be happy with any of the listed.
    Posted by mbeaulieu07


    would be surprised if he lasts to the 5th
     
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    Re: ***2012 Patriots Draft Thread***! UPDATED W/ MOCK V3 4/12!

    The list of familiars is quickly dwindling down...

    Ronnell Lewis
    Jared Crick
    Chris Polk
    Josh Chapman
    George Iloka
    Marvin Jones
    Marvin McNutt
    Josh Norman
    Shaun Prater
    Senio Kelemente
    Leonard Johnson
    Greg Childs
    Chris Rainey
    Vick Ballard
    Miles Burris
    Danny Coale
    Justin Bethel
    David Molk
    Cam Johnson
    Billy Winn
     
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    I'm holding out hope for Josh Norman to make it to us.  I would feel better about him than Wilson.  Other good players left, Adam Gettis, Billy Winn, Jerod Crick.  Nope, Crick gone.
     
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    In Response to Re: ***2012 Patriots Draft Thread***! UPDATED W/ MOCK V3 4/12! : would be surprised if he lasts to the 5th
    Posted by seattlepat70


    He's almost there, though he may not last to the end of Rd 5, I agree.  Holding out hope though.
     
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    Re: ***2012 Patriots Draft Thread***! UPDATED W/ MOCK V3 4/12!

    updated.....

    Chris Polk
    Josh Chapman
    George Iloka
    Marvin Jones
    Marvin McNutt
    Josh Norman
    Shaun Prater
    Senio Kelemente
    Leonard Johnson
    Greg Childs
    Chris Rainey
    Vick Ballard
    Danny Coale
    Justin Bethel
    David Molk
    Cam Johnson
    Billy Winn
    Brandon Washington
    Patrick Edwards
    Jack Crawford
    Robert Blanton
    Adam Gettis
    James Brown
     
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    I'm holding out hope for Josh Norman to make it to us.  I would feel better about him than Wilson.  Other good players left, Adam Gettis, Billy Winn, Jerod Crick.  Nope, Crick gone.
    Posted by Faucetman


     to me norman would be a good pickup.

    maybe i am confusing him for someone else, but isn't crick the guy who came in really light at the combine? too slow to play olb and not big enough to play 34 de. now if they pick up crick, to me that really signals a switch to a 43 base.
     
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    Re: ***2012 Patriots Draft Thread***! UPDATED W/ MOCK V3 4/12!

    Ron Brooks and Ronnell Lewis are officially off the board... damnit.

     
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    Re: ***2012 Patriots Draft Thread***! UPDATED W/ MOCK V3 4/12!

    And Miles Burris is gone too, 4th round is about right.
     
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    I'm really hoping Rainey falls to the Pats. He's the dynamic returner we need
     
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    I'm really hoping Rainey falls to the Pats. He's the dynamic returner we need
    Posted by PatsEng


    What do you think about the reports of him being as durable as tissue paper?
     
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    I'm really hoping Rainey falls to the Pats. He's the dynamic returner we need
    Posted by PatsEng


    Kid would make a ton of sense.
     
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    In Response to Re: ***2012 Patriots Draft Thread***! UPDATED W/ MOCK V3 4/12! : What do you think about the reports of him being as durable as tissue paper?
    Posted by Low-FB-IQ

    I think it's a bit overblown because of his size (5'8" 175lb). Besides for a 5th I'm willing to take the risk given his return ability

     
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    Chapman is gone.  I'm hoping for either Rainey or Winn.
     
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    ugh... norman gone too.

    gerell robinson if udfa
     
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