***2012 Patriots Draft Thread***! THANKS TO ALL WHO PARTICIPATED!

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    well we do need a "next welker"

    ok total draft grades
     
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    whAT IS HIS HEIGHT?
     
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    he's 5'11" 200lbs
     
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    Some video


    Kids got some wheels
     
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    Re: ***2012 Patriots Draft Thread***! UPDATED W/ MOCK V3 4/12!

    ok thanks

    there were so many huge outside wrs in this draft who are capable.
    with all these picks, i wouldve got one
    and a dt

    and

    was bb actually thinking future welker in your estimation with this pick?
     
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    4.3 to 4.4 speed, says one poster.  I guess he can't catch or something, not yet, but he's open.
     
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    ok thanks there were so many huge outside wrs in this draft who are capable. with all these picks, i wouldve got one and a dt and was bb actually thinking future welker in your estimation with this pick?
    Posted by bredbru

    Not sure if he's the next Welker. Not nearly as good CoD and quick short burst. Ebert looks more like an outside the numbers WR to me that can work inside in a pinch. Not bad video. Can't wait to see what this kid can do with the return game

     
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    Some video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ML623rryw8A Kids got some wheels
    Posted by PatsEng


    thanks for the video.
    i see moderate speed.
    hes getting caught from behind too much for me to say he has wheels
     
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    ok thanks there were so many huge outside wrs in this draft who are capable. with all these picks, i wouldve got one and a dt and was bb actually thinking future welker in your estimation with this pick?
    Posted by bredbru



    no not necessarily, you don't got to have a tall WR and pleanty of average height guys who run sub 4.4 can play outside.

    They are way more concerned with quicks/speed, hands, and the brain than they are height.
     
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    In Response to Re: ***2012 Patriots Draft Thread***! UPDATED W/ MOCK V3 4/12! : thanks for the video. i see moderate speed. hes getting caught from behind too much for me to say he has wheels
    Posted by bredbru

    He's adjusting to balls or working hrough traffic. Even Wallace gets caught from behind  : p

    Look at the separation before the ball is thrown. They are giving him 7-10 yards and within 20yrds he has 3 steps on them. That's speed

     
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    In Response to Re: ***2012 Patriots Draft Thread***! UPDATED W/ MOCK V3 4/12! : Your probably right, but this our team so lets stand by it.
    Posted by bobbysu



    standing by and defending my team does not mean not using my brain and being able to discuss critical thought, just to clarify
     
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    In Response to Re: ***2012 Patriots Draft Thread***! UPDATED W/ MOCK V3 4/12! : no not necessarily, you don't got to have a tall WR and pleanty of average height guys who run sub 4.4 can play outside. They are way more concerned with quicks/speed, hands, and the brain than they are height.
    Posted by Low-FB-IQ


    my point was not just for an outside wr.
    but if you have a good one
    and hes big, (look at gronk)
    hes much more difficult to cover
     
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    In Response to Re: ***2012 Patriots Draft Thread***! UPDATED W/ MOCK V3 4/12!:
    In Response to Re: ***2012 Patriots Draft Thread***! UPDATED W/ MOCK V3 4/12! : He's adjusting to balls or working hrough traffic. Even Wallace gets caught from behind  : p Look at the separation before the ball is thrown. They are giving him 7-10 yards and within 20yrds he has 3 steps on them. That's speed
    Posted by PatsEng


    hi eng,
    i see eh separtation (thogh dont knwo the defender)
    better defenders dont leave him that mcuh space
    thats why i said moderate speed.

    after the catch, guys were running him down.

    to me, having wheels means in most cases that wont happen (unless teh corner is an eltie speedster or someone has a really good angle on him.

    he was just getting caught from behind.

    not slot.
    moderate speed.

    we'll se if he can be st guy or makes our wr squad. would lvoe if hes good enough to do so.
     
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    Re: ***2012 Patriots Draft Thread***! UPDATED W/ MOCK V3 4/12!

    Well I'm sure they are about to bring in a few UDFAs, I WANT Ryan Miller OG, Dennis Kelly OT, Dominique Hamilton DT/DE, Daryl Richardson RB Abilene Christian, 
     
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    Re: ***2012 Patriots Draft Thread***! UPDATED W/ MOCK V3 4/12!

    im out guys. gotta go train.
    check in late this eve.

    see if you want to give a round by round grade and total grade.
    while you are at it, if you want to rate teh other total drafts in the nfl and individual "steal" picks.

    peace
     
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    Well I'm sure they are about to bring in a few UDFAs, I WANT Ryan Miller OG, Dennis Kelly OT, Dominique Hamilton DT/DE, Daryl Richardson RB Abilene Christian, 
    Posted by Pats7393



    thanks for bringing me a dt and rb
    is the back a potential 3 down back?
    a versatile o lineman would be good too.
     
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    Re: ***2012 Patriots Draft Thread***! UPDATED W/ MOCK V3 4/12!

    thanks for all the good stuff from the "draftniks"!
    appreciate it.
    peace
     
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    im out guys. gotta go train.
    Posted by bredbru


    Do you train UFC?
     
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    In Response to Re: ***2012 Patriots Draft Thread***! UPDATED W/ MOCK V3 4/12! : I hear ya and I agree in terms of 48 being wasted.  They could of had Konz, James or Randle.  What I'm trying to say is, BB was given a Mulligan and hit the crap out of it 310 yards down the middle of the fairway with Dennard.  I see Dennard a as FS conversion who hits and tackles and would have been worth pick 48 if he didn't have the off-the-field stuff. Jeremy Ebert can play too.  He was very productive at Northwestern.  The kid had 71/1025/11 last year and 62/953/8 in 2010.  He's fast for a white kid, 4.41, I think.  Could be the next Welker.
    Posted by Faucetman


         Oh well...what's done is done. I'm expecting the Pats to sign an undrafted FA RB, and to sign a veteran (Hightower) through free agency.
     
     
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    In Response to Re: ***2012 Patriots Draft Thread***! UPDATED W/ MOCK V3 4/12!:
    In Response to Re: ***2012 Patriots Draft Thread***! UPDATED W/ MOCK V3 4/12! :      Oh well...what's done is done. I'm expecting the Pats to sign an undrafted FA RB, and to sign a veteran (Hightower) through free agency.  
    Posted by TexasPat


    Lol. Two hightowers on the team would be cool.
     
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    Well I'm sure they are about to bring in a few UDFAs, I WANT Ryan Miller OG, Dennis Kelly OT, Dominique Hamilton DT/DE, Daryl Richardson RB Abilene Christian, 
    Posted by Pats7393


    Richardson is gone
     
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    well we do need a "next welker" ok total draft grades
    Posted by bredbru


    With the Mulligan, I give the Pats an A.  It would be an A+ if we didn't shank pick 48 into the ravine.  In terms of the roster and bolstering areas of weakness, we did a great job. 

    Jones replaces Carter (but he could be back)
    Hightower replaces Guyton
    Dennard replaces Ihedigbo
    Bequette replaces Anderson

    All should be long term upgrades. 

     
     
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    Re: ***2012 Patriots Draft Thread***! UPDATED W/ MOCK V3 4/12!

    Some Possible UDFA's???

    Chris Polk
    Michael Brewster
    Leonard Johnson
    Patrick Edwards
    James Brown
    Ryan Steed
    Bobby Rainey
    Derek Carrier
    Dale Moss
    Nicoles Jean-Baptiste
    Trevor Coston
    Brett Roy
    Matt Conrath
    Ryan Davis
    Adrian Hamilton
    Vince Brown
    Eric Page
    Coale Beasley
    James Carmon
    Rico Wallace
    Fozzy Whittaker
    Logan Kerr
    Brandon Bolden
    Matt Conrath
    Micah Pellerin
    Shawn Loiseau
    Chase Ford
    Chase Minnifield
    Lance Dunbar
    Noah Keller
     
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