***2013 Patriots Draft Thread V2***

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    I'll be interested to see if Stanford OLB/DE Trent Murphy (6-6 261) declares for the draft (RS junior)... Elite size and length, rugged/physical/smart kid (as most recent Stanford kids are), excellent run defender that can set the edge and can really make plays behind the LOS (9.5 sacks / 17 TFL on the season).  Def a kid to watch and someone that I'll be adding to my Bid 32 Board Stack.

     
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    well draft experts... here's a challenge for you.

    do you see any kickers that bb should check out? i really think ghost has missed too many. those misses could set a bad tone early for the pats on difficult games.

    he's really not a good enough kicker.

     
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    well draft experts... here's a challenge for you.

    do you see any kickers that bb should check out? i really think ghost has missed too many. those misses could set a bad tone early for the pats on difficult games.

    he's really not a good enough kicker.



    I'm not an expert but I think they should look at Hopkins on Florida State.

     
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    well draft experts... here's a challenge for you.

    do you see any kickers that bb should check out? i really think ghost has missed too many. those misses could set a bad tone early for the pats on difficult games.

    he's really not a good enough kicker.



    no need to draft a kicker. enough free agents around the country.

     
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    well draft experts... here's a challenge for you.

    do you see any kickers that bb should check out? i really think ghost has missed too many. those misses could set a bad tone early for the pats on difficult games.

    he's really not a good enough kicker.



    I'm not an expert but I think they should look at Hopkins on Florida State.



    The same name came (hey, that rhymes) to my mind as well, kid has a real good leg.

     

     
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    well draft experts... here's a challenge for you.

    do you see any kickers that bb should check out? i really think ghost has missed too many. those misses could set a bad tone early for the pats on difficult games.

    he's really not a good enough kicker.



    no need to draft a kicker. enough free agents around the country.




    BB has shown a real willingness to draft players with impact potential in the kicking game (Gostkowski Rd 4-2006 / Mesko Rd 5-2010, etc.), so it's very possible that he could do so again.

     
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    I don't think they should draft a kicker. If Gost can be consistent in the playoffs, he stays. I think he stays either way, but if he is unnoticed in the playoffs or even kicks a game winner, it seals him for next year. Lets focus OL and DB

     
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    I don't think they should draft a kicker. If Gost can be consistent in the playoffs, he stays. I think he stays either way, but if he is unnoticed in the playoffs or even kicks a game winner, it seals him for next year. Lets focus OL and DB




    It's certainly a wait and see approach, but his performance to date this season warrants concern.

     
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    I don't think they should draft a kicker. If Gost can be consistent in the playoffs, he stays. I think he stays either way, but if he is unnoticed in the playoffs or even kicks a game winner, it seals him for next year. Lets focus OL and DB



    i woudl kick tires on 2 free agent kcikers and see if they can beat him out.

    use 3 draft picke sto get 3 game changers at dt , de and c/g

     
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    a quick question...I know we had all those ridiculous thread debates a year ago about wether Brian Hoyer would bring a second or first round draft pick in a trade, but I do wonder what Ryan Mallett might bring.

    I am not a fan of any of the QB's coming out this year. I think they are all in the Jimmy Clausen mode. If you were a Chiefs, Bills or Cardinals fan would you really want to hang your future on Geno Smith or Matt Barkley? I would think Mallett would be a far better bet than any the guys coming out. TB is here for another four or five so we will lose Mallet to FA before he is really of any use. KC, for example, would be far better off trading their 2nd and 4th for Mallett and keeping their top pick than taking Geno Smith. That's a no-brainer.

    Keep an eye on Minnesota ex-QB Marquis Gray as a late round WR flyer. He is a great athlete and has played WR for a couple of seasons.

    Also, does anyone have any idea of Collin Klien's future? I seriously doubt it is as an NFL QB. Is he a late round flyer at TE?

    And I have always loved the idea of athletic college QB's converting to FS's. Maybe Taylor Martinez as a late rounder?

    Right now, as it stands, I want Jesse Williams, then prayerfully S Phillip Thomas and an interior OL in third.

    Is it a slam dunk that both Jake Long and Ryan Clady will be franchised? We gotta let Vollmer go with his back being bad. I'd love to sign the best free agent LT and move Solder to the right side.  OLine has to be a priority for Pats in Brady's twilight years.

     
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    a quick question...I know we had all those ridiculous thread debates a year ago about wether Brian Hoyer would bring a second or first round draft pick in a trade, but I do wonder what Ryan Mallett might bring.

    I am not a fan of any of the QB's coming out this year. I think they are all in the Jimmy Clausen mode. If you were a Chiefs, Bills or Cardinals fan would you really want to hang your future on Geno Smith or Matt Barkley? I would think Mallett would be a far better bet than any the guys coming out. TB is here for another four or five so we will lose Mallet to FA before he is really of any use. KC, for example, would be far better off trading their 2nd and 4th for Mallett and keeping their top pick than taking Geno Smith. That's a no-brainer.

    Keep an eye on Minnesota ex-QB Marquis Gray as a late round WR flyer. He is a great athlete and has played WR for a couple of seasons.

    Also, does anyone have any idea of Collin Klien's future? I seriously doubt it is as an NFL QB. Is he a late round flyer at TE?

    And I have always loved the idea of athletic college QB's converting to FS's. Maybe Taylor Martinez as a late rounder?

    Right now, as it stands, I want Jesse Williams, then prayerfully S Phillip Thomas and an interior OL in third.

    Is it a slam dunk that both Jake Long and Ryan Clady will be franchised? We gotta let Vollmer go with his back being bad. I'd love to sign the best free agent LT and move Solder to the right side.  OLine has to be a priority for Pats in Brady's twilight years.



    i brought up the mallett possibility a week or 2 ago. id explore that.

    agree i want a top o line and if vollmers back is going to be perrenial, my need a tackle in fa and c/g in draft. to go along with dt, de. fs in fa would be awesome as well. 7th or udfa outside wr who can separate.

     
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    In response to pumpsiefan's comment:

    a quick question...I know we had all those ridiculous thread debates a year ago about wether Brian Hoyer would bring a second or first round draft pick in a trade, but I do wonder what Ryan Mallett might bring.

    I am not a fan of any of the QB's coming out this year. I think they are all in the Jimmy Clausen mode. If you were a Chiefs, Bills or Cardinals fan would you really want to hang your future on Geno Smith or Matt Barkley? I would think Mallett would be a far better bet than any the guys coming out. TB is here for another four or five so we will lose Mallet to FA before he is really of any use. KC, for example, would be far better off trading their 2nd and 4th for Mallett and keeping their top pick than taking Geno Smith. That's a no-brainer.

    Keep an eye on Minnesota ex-QB Marquis Gray as a late round WR flyer. He is a great athlete and has played WR for a couple of seasons.

    Also, does anyone have any idea of Collin Klien's future? I seriously doubt it is as an NFL QB. Is he a late round flyer at TE?

    And I have always loved the idea of athletic college QB's converting to FS's. Maybe Taylor Martinez as a late rounder?

    Right now, as it stands, I want Jesse Williams, then prayerfully S Phillip Thomas and an interior OL in third.

    Is it a slam dunk that both Jake Long and Ryan Clady will be franchised? We gotta let Vollmer go with his back being bad. I'd love to sign the best free agent LT and move Solder to the right side.  OLine has to be a priority for Pats in Brady's twilight years.




    Problem is, Mallet was a 3rd rounder, which shows you what most teams though of him coming out... and he hasn't done anything yet (also hasn't been given the opportunity, for good reason) to tell a team that he's the guy they should turn the franchise over to.  A team could do just as well spending a 2nd rounder on Landry Jones, IMO.

    Martinez can fly, wonder if he'll get some consideration as a KR at the NFL level?

    Phillip Thomas has had quite the statistical year (8 INT's / 12 TFL).  What stands out to me on tape is his movement ability... looks very fluid and will close../get to the LOS in a hurry... also like his size.  He flashes some very good ability as a tackler, particularly when asked to set the edge and has some good stack/shed abilty, though he needs to wrap up more consistently and can take some poor angles, but overall, looks like a very good NFL S prospect.  Might be a kid that I add to the Big 32 Board as a Day 2 kid.

    I'm with you on Williams, love this kid as a Rd 1 option.

     
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    its getting just crazy now (pass rushing des)

    nfls future has jordan going at 9!

    and ansah at 16..

    but rhodes (1)

         barrett jones (2)

    and  hunt (3)

    for pats

     
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    Declaring for the Draft

    From http://nflsfuture.com/ as of 4 Dec

    DECLARED:

    Da’Rick Rogers, WR, Tennessee Tech

    Brandon Jenkins, DE, Florida State

    Tyrann Mathieu, CB, LSU

    Sheldon Richardson, DT, Missouri

    RUMORED TO BE LEAVING:

    David Amerson, CB, N.C. State

    Marcus Lattimore, RB, South Carolina

    Corey Lemonier, DE, Auburn

    Ra’Shede Hageman, DE, Minnesota

    Jawan Jamison, RB, Rutgers

    Logan Ryan, CB, Rutgers

    Xavier Rhodes, CB, Florida St.

    Tyler Bray, QB, Tennessee

    Justin Hunter, WR, Tennessee

    Aaron Murray, QB, Georgia

    Akeem Spence, DT, Illinois

    Jelani Jenkins, OLB, Florida

    SUBMITTING PAPERWORK TO NFL ADVISORY COMMITTEE:

    Logan Thomas, QB, Virginia Tech

    Jeremiah Attaochu, LB, Georgia Tech

    Gabe Jackson, OG, Mississippi State

    Robert Woods, WR, USC

    Tajh Boyd, QB, Clemson

    Cierre Wood, RB, Notre Dame

    RUMORED TO BE STAYING:

    Cordarrelle Patterson, WR, Tennessee

    ANNOUNCED THEY ARE STAYING:

    Derek Carr, QB, Fresno State

     

     
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    i cant believe walter still have us taking a receiver this week, tavon wilson/wv at 30.

    elam going 29 to sf

    jones going 31 to atlanta

    hunt in 2nd 

    shawn willimas s ga, in 3rd

     
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    i cant believe walter still have us taking a receiver this week, tavon wilson/wv at 30.

    elam going 29 to sf

    jones going 31 to atlanta

    hunt in 2nd 

    shawn willimas s ga, in 3rd




    I would have no problem with them drafting Wilson Austin but not in the 1st round. I think thats a reach for a team to draft him there anyway

     
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    i cant believe walter still have us taking a receiver this week, tavon wilson/wv at 30.

    elam going 29 to sf

    jones going 31 to atlanta

    hunt in 2nd 

    shawn willimas s ga, in 3rd




    I would have no problem with them drafting Wilson but not in the 1st round. I think thats a reach for a team to draft him there anyway




    that is the point there. would you holler if we did that in rd 1. 

    i dotn want a wr before a dt, de and c/g

     
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    I'm suprised Lattimore would leave because I thought he could redshirt and come back strong for another year to improve his draft stock

     
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    how many more major knee injuries do you think he can have adn still be drafted adn have a good career? backs should come out after 2 years if yorue good. save yoru knees and a year or 2 of your 5-7 year career (if youre lucky).

    by the way, did you see?

    College Fans, Malzahn to Auburn, Bielema to Arkansas!

    posted at 12/04/2012 09:14:19 EST

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    you coudl see malzahn who ran the offense at auburn when cam was there.

    bielema ("we dont recruit like the sec")? you have to wonder? if im arkansas fan, dotn know if i see that as teh best hire. you have to think it wont be the high flyin petrino offense... 

     
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    i cant believe walter still have us taking a receiver this week, tavon wilson/wv at 30.

    elam going 29 to sf

    jones going 31 to atlanta

    hunt in 2nd 

    shawn willimas s ga, in 3rd




    I would have no problem with them drafting Wilson but not in the 1st round. I think thats a reach for a team to draft him there anyway




    that is the point there. would you holler if we did that in rd 1. 

    i dotn want a wr before a dt, de and c/g




    I definately wouldn't want a wr with the first pick. Anywhere on the D side of the ball, I prefer DT, DE/OLB, CB. If it has to be on O then I would want it on the OL

     
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    i cant believe walter still have us taking a receiver this week, tavon wilson/wv at 30.

    elam going 29 to sf

    jones going 31 to atlanta

    hunt in 2nd 

    shawn willimas s ga, in 3rd




    I would have no problem with them drafting Wilson but not in the 1st round. I think thats a reach for a team to draft him there anyway




    that is the point there. would you holler if we did that in rd 1. 

    i dotn want a wr before a dt, de and c/g




    I definately wouldn't want a wr with the first pick. Anywhere on the D side of the ball, I prefer DT, DE/OLB, CB. If it has to be on O then I would want it on the OL



    hear ya excpet dotn want any more drafted dbs. go fa route

     
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    i cant believe walter still have us taking a receiver this week, tavon wilson/wv at 30.

    elam going 29 to sf

    jones going 31 to atlanta

    hunt in 2nd 

    shawn willimas s ga, in 3rd



    that is Tavon Austin not Wilson

     
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    how many more major knee injuries do you think he can have adn still be drafted adn have a good career? backs should come out after 2 years if yorue good. save yoru knees and a year or 2 of your 5-7 year career (if youre lucky).

    by the way, did you see?

    College Fans, Malzahn to Auburn, Bielema to Arkansas!

    posted at 12/04/2012 09:14:19 EST

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    you coudl see malzahn who ran the offense at auburn when cam was there.

    bielema ("we dont recruit like the sec")? you have to wonder? if im arkansas fan, dotn know if i see that as teh best hire. you have to think it wont be the high flyin petrino offense... 



    I was suprised but I think its a good hire. It'll be interesting to see the change in style

     
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    i cant believe walter still have us taking a receiver this week, tavon wilson/wv at 30.

    elam going 29 to sf

    jones going 31 to atlanta

    hunt in 2nd 

    shawn willimas s ga, in 3rd



    that is Tavon Austin not Wilson



    :)

    of course

     
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    how many more major knee injuries do you think he can have adn still be drafted adn have a good career? backs should come out after 2 years if yorue good. save yoru knees and a year or 2 of your 5-7 year career (if youre lucky).

    by the way, did you see?

    College Fans, Malzahn to Auburn, Bielema to Arkansas!

    posted at 12/04/2012 09:14:19 EST

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    you coudl see malzahn who ran the offense at auburn when cam was there.

    bielema ("we dont recruit like the sec")? you have to wonder? if im arkansas fan, dotn know if i see that as teh best hire. you have to think it wont be the high flyin petrino offense... 



    I was suprised but I think its a good hire. It'll be interesting to see the change in style



    you gotta share your thought process. are you sayign it will be intgerestign because its different. 

    or if you mean good. why good

     
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