***2013 Patriots Draft Thread V2***

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    ESPN has KC taking Star at #1 overall.

    I agree with John on NWE trading down. I just can't figure out who would give up a 2014 first and a 2013 early second. If at all, it might be a 2014 first and a 2013 third.

    BTW, what the hell does the value chart look like now that there's a rookie salary cap?

     
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    You can remove Bama QB AJ McCarron from your wish list this year... he's returning to Tuscaloosa:

    http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8741250/aj-mccarron-alabama-crimson-tide-return-senior-year-put-nfl-draft

     
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    will soon be time to start making a list of 29-30 players to never mention or look at again as they will never make it to the Pats at the bottom of round one.

     
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    will soon be time to start making a list of 29-30 players to never mention or look at again as they will never make it to the Pats at the bottom of round one.




    Welcome back... I've started that process as well (i.e. Dion Jordan)... should have my updated Big 32 Board posted soon.

     
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    Prefer the post bowl games (Shrine and Senior) before the list is out, but I like the posts you guys put up. Quality stuff and not of that "No your offensive philosophy is meaningless" rhetorical sophistry.

     
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    In response to Low-FB-IQ's comment:

    will soon be time to start making a list of 29-30 players to never mention or look at again as they will never make it to the Pats at the bottom of round one.



    :)

    hey low,

    welcome back

     
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    In response to seattlepat70's comment:

    ESPN has KC taking Star at #1 overall.

    I agree with John on NWE trading down. I just can't figure out who would give up a 2014 first and a 2013 early second. If at all, it might be a 2014 first and a 2013 third.

    BTW, what the hell does the value chart look like now that there's a rookie salary cap?

    hey seattle and john,

    trade down, how many mid and low round players does this team need whne you look at it.

    its alrady as young as it needs to be. needs experience. tradign up for 3 studs is teh only thing that will actaully make a difference in making this team as good as it can be for the next 2-3 years while the difference makeers are at their prime.

     
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    College Football Fans Dream and Enjoy This! Final 12 playoff Played Out.


    http://www.boston.com/community/forums/start_discussion/100/1390

     

    Less important than the fun of the whole thing (year in and year out),  i have lsu and bama as the 2 best teams this year (eye test, record aside) with the possible exception of texas a and m (florida is deserving, but doesnt have much of an offense this year). still with a playoff like this, no one gets cheated out of what they deserve. ncaa tournament times 10 in fun, fan interest, and money if those school presidents werent so fearful and corrupted.

     
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    As much as I like Phillip Thomas I am not sure about adding another rookie to the safety mix. If Chung leaves as expected I'd like to see the Pats add a wily vet. One UFA guy who intrigues me is Quintan Jammef of the Chargers. He as played CB his whole career but at this stage a move to safety might be in order. I also wonder about another ex-Longhorn - the Bill's Aaron Williams who was drafted high but hasn't found his game in Buffalo. He is another guy, fairly big, who might be better suited at safety than CB.

     

    I had forgotten about Jeff Demps, Mb. Could he be the Pats sleeper of 2013?

     
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    no offense but that is a silly statement. If Chung leaves as expected who do you have at safety - a converted CB in McCourtney, a mediocre vet in Gregory, a guy who never started in college in Ebner and a guy who the jury is still way way out on in Wilson. No, safety remains probably the Pat's weakest and most vunerable position.

     
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    we are set at safety. i guarentee BB does not pick a safety this draft. 




    A lot depends on what happens with Talib in the off season (i.e. whether DMC stays at S or moves back to CB)... and what they do about Chung who'll be a FA.

    Assuming most declare, this class projects to have some pretty good S talent with Gator S Matt Elam being highest on my list as a Top 40 kid.

     
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    we are set at safety. i guarentee BB does not pick a safety this draft. 




    A lot depends on what happens with Talib in the off season (i.e. whether DMC stays at S or moves back to CB)... and what they do about Chung who'll be a FA.

    Assuming most declare, this class projects to have some pretty good S talent with Gator S Matt Elam being highest on my list as a Top 40 kid.



    i don't think DMC is moving from FS and tavon wilson will be givin an opportunity to win the job from gregory next season. if talib leaves i could see NE targeting a CB like xavier rhodes in round 1.

    non-the-less.. my top 3 picks for NE so far. 

    rd 1. Purdue DT kawann short http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0_ueLOWGdU

    rd 2. Kentucky OG larry warford http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glV9ET261DQ 

    rd 3. WV WR stedman bailey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9i0ZNwUURQ



    Assuming Short and Jesse Williams are available in Rd 1, I prefer Williams... I'd also have ND NT Louis Nix III ahead of him if he declares. 

    Warford would be a solid Day 2 options... big kid, but can move.

    I like Bailey in the Rd 3 range... good hands, has some RAC ability... also like Ryan Swope in that range.

     
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    In response to mbeaulieu07's comment:

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    we are set at safety. i guarentee BB does not pick a safety this draft. 




    A lot depends on what happens with Talib in the off season (i.e. whether DMC stays at S or moves back to CB)... and what they do about Chung who'll be a FA.

    Assuming most declare, this class projects to have some pretty good S talent with Gator S Matt Elam being highest on my list as a Top 40 kid.



    dmc seems to play better at s. i'd rather he stay there. so it's more important for bb to find a cb, fa or draft.

     
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    In response to mbeaulieu07's comment:

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    we are set at safety. i guarentee BB does not pick a safety this draft. 




    A lot depends on what happens with Talib in the off season (i.e. whether DMC stays at S or moves back to CB)... and what they do about Chung who'll be a FA.

    Assuming most declare, this class projects to have some pretty good S talent with Gator S Matt Elam being highest on my list as a Top 40 kid.



    i don't think DMC is moving from FS and tavon wilson will be givin an opportunity to win the job from gregory next season. if talib leaves i could see NE targeting a CB like xavier rhodes in round 1.

    non-the-less.. my top 3 picks for NE so far. 

    rd 1. Purdue DT kawann short http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0_ueLOWGdU

    rd 2. Kentucky OG larry warford http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glV9ET261DQ 

    rd 3. WV WR stedman bailey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9i0ZNwUURQ



    Assuming Short and Jesse Williams are available in Rd 1, I prefer Williams... I'd also have ND NT Louis Nix III ahead of him if he declares. 

    Warford would be a solid Day 2 options... big kid, but can move.

    I like Bailey in the Rd 3 range... good hands, has some RAC ability... also like Ryan Swope in that range.



    i liked short early in the season. i thought he played well against nd actually. but he seemed to ahve gotten on a slow decline after that, through mid-season. i was not able to record any purdue games in the second half of the season, so i can't confirm if the decline continued. the stats on espen suggests yes, but i do not like looking at stats for dts. there's so much they do that the numbers don't capture.

    can you tell me your opininon on jarvis jones? he's highly rated, but on the three games that i watched (sec championship, vs florida, and vs another team), he did not look like a top 10 guy. smallish and i though was weak once engaged by a blocker. 

     
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    In response to seattlepat70's comment:

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    we are set at safety. i guarentee BB does not pick a safety this draft. 




    A lot depends on what happens with Talib in the off season (i.e. whether DMC stays at S or moves back to CB)... and what they do about Chung who'll be a FA.

    Assuming most declare, this class projects to have some pretty good S talent with Gator S Matt Elam being highest on my list as a Top 40 kid.



    i don't think DMC is moving from FS and tavon wilson will be givin an opportunity to win the job from gregory next season. if talib leaves i could see NE targeting a CB like xavier rhodes in round 1.

    non-the-less.. my top 3 picks for NE so far. 

    rd 1. Purdue DT kawann short http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0_ueLOWGdU

    rd 2. Kentucky OG larry warford http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glV9ET261DQ 

    rd 3. WV WR stedman bailey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9i0ZNwUURQ



    Assuming Short and Jesse Williams are available in Rd 1, I prefer Williams... I'd also have ND NT Louis Nix III ahead of him if he declares. 

    Warford would be a solid Day 2 options... big kid, but can move.

    I like Bailey in the Rd 3 range... good hands, has some RAC ability... also like Ryan Swope in that range.



    i liked short early in the season. i thought he played well against nd actually. but he seemed to ahve gotten on a slow decline after that, through mid-season. i was not able to record any purdue games in the second half of the season, so i can't confirm if the decline continued. the stats on espen suggests yes, but i do not like looking at stats for dts. there's so much they do that the numbers don't capture.

    can you tell me your opininon on jarvis jones? he's highly rated, but on the three games that i watched (sec championship, vs florida, and vs another team), he did not look like a top 10 guy. smallish and i though was weak once engaged by a blocker. 



    Jones is a player that I compare to Bruce Irvin in that he's an extremely athletic kid that can really bring it off the edge, but is prob more specialist at this point as their ability vs. the run is def behind their ability as a pass rusher. 

    I did find it interesting what Saban had to say right after the SEC Championship game... check out the 2:10 spot of the follow link:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFamL-RoPxgWe... def huge props to Georgia, Jones included.

    We all know that pass rushers come at a premium, Irvin being selected 15th overall last year as just another example, so I'd expect Jones to come off the board in the Top 5-10, assuming teams are comfortable with his spinal stenosis.

     
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    I should also point out that I need to watch more tape on Jones to fully gauge his ability as a run defender as I haven't studied him that close on the assumption that he'll be off the board well before NE is expected to select.

     
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    I should also point out that I need to watch more tape on Jones to fully gauge his ability as a run defender as I haven't studied him that close on the assumption that he'll be off the board well before NE is expected to select.



    thank you.

     
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    no offense but that is a silly statement. If Chung leaves as expected who do you have at safety - a converted CB in McCourtney, a mediocre vet in Gregory, a guy who never started in college in Ebner and a guy who the jury is still way way out on in Wilson. No, safety remains probably the Pat's weakest and most vunerable position.



    free agent pickup

     
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    College Football Fans Dream and Enjoy This! Final 12 playoff Played Out.


    http://www.boston.com/community/forums/start_discussion/100/1390

     

    Less important than the fun of the whole thing (year in and year out),  i have lsu and bama as the 2 best teams this year (eye test, record aside) with the possible exception of texas a and m (florida is deserving, but doesnt have much of an offense this year). still with a playoff like this, no one gets cheated out of what they deserve. ncaa tournament times 10 in fun, fan interest, and money if those school presidents werent so fearful and corrupted.



    not many college football fanatics in responding  here?

    the mere bracketing of teams got all my energy flowing greatly.

     
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    As much as I like Phillip Thomas I am not sure about adding another rookie to the safety mix. If Chung leaves as expected I'd like to see the Pats add a wily vet. One UFA guy who intrigues me is Quintan Jammef of the Chargers. He as played CB his whole career but at this stage a move to safety might be in order. I also wonder about another ex-Longhorn - the Bill's Aaron Williams who was drafted high but hasn't found his game in Buffalo. He is another guy, fairly big, who might be better suited at safety than CB.

     

    I had forgotten about Jeff Demps, Mb. Could he be the Pats sleeper of 2013?



    i have not been able to forget demps since we had him in. still  pissed wr ired him.

     
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    UNC's Giovani Bernard opts for draft

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/draft2013/story/_/id/8746488/north-carolina-tar-heels-rb-giovani-bernard-declares-nfl-draft

    The 5-foot-10, 205-pound tailback led the Atlantic Coast Conference in rushing, scoring, all-purpose yards and punt-return average.

     
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    McShay has 15 SEC players going in the first round, including five among the top 10 picks. 

    The SEC record for most players selected in the first round is 11

    helluva year

     
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