***2013 Patriots Draft Thread V2***

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    Here's an interesting idea. I want a larger possession receiver who has decent speed. If, and this is a big if, Chris Gragg from Ark decides to declare could he be converted to a WR. Given he missed almost all of last season he'd be better off staying out of the draft but if he declares he's a 6'3" 236 (way to small to be a TE in the pro's) and runs in the 4.5 range. As a larger WR he has good speed and great size while also having the possibility of running HB. You could have a heavy receiver package with 1 WR (Lloyd/Welker), 2 WR/TE/HB (Hern and Gragg) options, 2 TE on the field (Gronk and Fells/Ballard) and have either Hern or Gragg flex in/out of the backfield. That would be interesting how a D would try to match up against that

     
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    Here's an interesting idea. I want a larger possession receiver who has decent speed. If, and this is a big if, Chris Gragg from Ark decides to declare could he be converted to a WR. Given he missed almost all of last season he'd be better off staying out of the draft but if he declares he's a 6'3" 236 (way to small to be a TE in the pro's) and runs in the 4.5 range. As a larger WR he has good speed and great size while also having the possibility of running HB. You could have a heavy receiver package with 1 WR (Lloyd/Welker), 2 WR/TE/HB (Hern and Gragg) options, 2 TE on the field (Gronk and Fells/Ballard) and have either Hern or Gragg flex in/out of the backfield. That would be interesting how a D would try to match up against that



    Kid has some skill and I like his ability/effort as a blocker.  I don't know if BB will go this route, but it's not a bad idea for a Day 3 pick.

     
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    Though this would be interesteing, lets list our top 3 players we'd like to see in the Pats area of need. I think we can all agree that means WR, interior OL, DL, DB. The one trick to this exercise is you can only pick one player per round and they have to be a realistic chance to make the back of the round. In otherwords we aren't getting Jarvis Jones so don't list him.

    For me it would be:

    Round 1

    DL - Jonathan Jenkins - The back end of the 1st is pushing the limit where he'd be taken but I've seen him listed from late teens to backend of the 1st. I think Jenkins would make an excellent addition next to Wilfork and eventually take over as the anchor 3-4 years down the road.

    DB - Matt Elam - There are plenty of CB's to take but if Elam is there he'd be hard to pass on

    WR - Terrance Williams - He's tall, quick, and shifty. Better yet he only seemed to improve without RGIII. As Brady gets older I don't think a down the field only receiver is the solution, I think you need someone to work all 3 zones and Williams might be that WR

    OL - Jonathan Cooper - Cooper is smaller then most like for a G but his very smart and moves well using plus hand movement. Cooper can also slide inside to C. If he adds 20 more lbs he could be a great run blocking G with speed to work DT's all the way around Brady

     

    Round 2

    DL - Margus Hunt - I really wanted to put Ezekeil Ansah here but Ansah is rising up boards way to fast to be in the back of the 2nd. Hunt though hurt his stock early on but showed large improve in both run defense and pass rush. He was almost shut out in the last part of the year making some question if he can full develop his raw potential, however, I've seen him steadily progress which to me says he can learn.Thing is 6'8" 280 sub 4.8 guys don't come around often and I'd hate to miss on a chance to put him opposite Jones for years to comes

    DB - Leon McFadden - I don't know what it is about McFadden but everytime I see him I say that's a pro CB. He has great vision, good hands, good hip movement, and plays the ball not the player. If he wasn't at SD state I think he'd be higher up on the board but he has #1/2 CB written all over him

    WR - Da'Rick Rodgers - here's a kid that would have been a top 3 WR this year if not for pot related issues. He had to transfer schools but still put up great numbers. We know if pot is the only issue BB will overlook it if the value is right and Rodgers might be in a similar situation. The thing is he could go anywhere from the 1st to the 4th depending on how other teams see his incidents

    OL - Travis Frederick - I don't think he makes it to the back of the 3rd and this kid is a well rounded G that can slide to C in a pinch. He operates well 1v1 and in space. He doesn't excell in one aspect but he has all the tools to let Scar build upon. 


    Round 3

    DL - Kwane Geathers - He most likely will go back to school but if he comes out he could be a hidden gem. The only knock on Geathers is that he plays behind Jenkins. Think of him as a poor mans version of Jenkins but don't think for a minute if he was on another team he wouldn't be a starter. He's a good-great DT/NT, much better then Brace coming out but still not the talent Jenkins is

    DB - Micah Hyde - Because of an arrest his stock dipped. He has late 2nd round talent you can have in the 3rd but 14 passes broken up and nothing you can't over look a minor offense for. Yes he played weaker WR's this year but the senior bowl you should keep an eye on him

    WR - Markus Wheaton - Wheaton is a bit taller then BB likes in his slot receivers but he's very good in open space and has great quick bursts getting up to speed quickly. Wheaton has great hands and put them on display racking up some big numbers his senior season.

    OL - Gabe Jackson - I have to admit I only noticed him because I was watching Ala players. Jackson held his own and was one of the few to shut down Ala's vaunted line for most of the game. He handled Williams with the best of them as well as having a solid game against LSU's DL. He could be an option mid day 2

     
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    What do you think they will do with Demps. Obviously he'll be the returner next year but will he be a RB? With Vereen and Woodhead on the team (to me Woodhead has only solidified his spot this year) can Demps crack the quicker smaller RB role?

    IMO I think they red shirted him to learn to be a quick wideout and screen guy. Let him work on his hands this past season and imagine a guy with his speed set on the outside



    been pissed since bb ired him and yes i look forward to that

     
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    In response to PatsEng's comment:

    Though this would be interesteing, lets list our top 3 players we'd like to see in the Pats area of need. I think we can all agree that means WR, interior OL, DL, DB. The one trick to this exercise is you can only pick one player per round and they have to be a realistic chance to make the back of the round. In otherwords we aren't getting Jarvis Jones so don't list him.

    For me it would be:

    Round 1

    DL - Jonathan Jenkins - The back end of the 1st is pushing the limit where he'd be taken but I've seen him listed from late teens to backend of the 1st. I think Jenkins would make an excellent addition next to Wilfork and eventually take over as the anchor 3-4 years down the road.

    DB - Matt Elam - There are plenty of CB's to take but if Elam is there he'd be hard to pass on

    WR - Terrance Williams - He's tall, quick, and shifty. Better yet he only seemed to improve without RGIII. As Brady gets older I don't think a down the field only receiver is the solution, I think you need someone to work all 3 zones and Williams might be that WR

    OL - Jonathan Cooper - Cooper is smaller then most like for a G but his very smart and moves well using plus hand movement. Cooper can also slide inside to C. If he adds 20 more lbs he could be a great run blocking G with speed to work DT's all the way around Brady

     

    Round 2

    DL - Margus Hunt - I really wanted to put Ezekeil Ansah here but Ansah is rising up boards way to fast to be in the back of the 2nd. Hunt though hurt his stock early on but showed large improve in both run defense and pass rush. He was almost shut out in the last part of the year making some question if he can full develop his raw potential, however, I've seen him steadily progress which to me says he can learn.Thing is 6'8" 280 sub 4.8 guys don't come around often and I'd hate to miss on a chance to put him opposite Jones for years to comes

    DB - Leon McFadden - I don't know what it is about McFadden but everytime I see him I say that's a pro CB. He has great vision, good hands, good hip movement, and plays the ball not the player. If he wasn't at SD state I think he'd be higher up on the board but he has #1/2 CB written all over him

    WR - Da'Rick Rodgers - here's a kid that would have been a top 3 WR this year if not for pot related issues. He had to transfer schools but still put up great numbers. We know if pot is the only issue BB will overlook it if the value is right and Rodgers might be in a similar situation. The thing is he could go anywhere from the 1st to the 4th depending on how other teams see his incidents

    OL - Travis Frederick - I don't think he makes it to the back of the 3rd and this kid is a well rounded G that can slide to C in a pinch. He operates well 1v1 and in space. He doesn't excell in one aspect but he has all the tools to let Scar build upon. 


    Round 3

    DL - Kwane Geathers - He most likely will go back to school but if he comes out he could be a hidden gem. The only knock on Geathers is that he plays behind Jenkins. Think of him as a poor mans version of Jenkins but don't think for a minute if he was on another team he wouldn't be a starter. He's a good-great DT/NT, much better then Brace coming out but still not the talent Jenkins is

    DB - Micah Hyde - Because of an arrest his stock dipped. He has late 2nd round talent you can have in the 3rd but 14 passes broken up and nothing you can't over look a minor offense for. Yes he played weaker WR's this year but the senior bowl you should keep an eye on him

    WR - Markus Wheaton - Wheaton is a bit taller then BB likes in his slot receivers but he's very good in open space and has great quick bursts getting up to speed quickly. Wheaton has great hands and put them on display racking up some big numbers his senior season.

    OL - Gabe Jackson - I have to admit I only noticed him because I was watching Ala players. Jackson held his own and was one of the few to shut down Ala's vaunted line for most of the game. He handled Williams with the best of them as well as having a solid game against LSU's DL. He could be an option mid day 2

     

    PE,

    Here's my list:

    Rd 1:

    DT- Jesse Williams- VW's eventual successor and an immediate upgrade to the DT position.

    S- Matt Elam- Might be my favorite player in the class not named Dion Jordan.  Good cover S, very physical and one of the best tacklers at the position in this draft.

    OL- Jon Cooper- I see a future All-Pro here, excellent movement skills and athleticism, finishes his blocks and could play C as well.  One of the more enjoyable kids to watch on film, which says a lot considering he's an OG.

    DE/OLB- Sam Montgomery- Have seen him listed at the bottom of Rd 1 in some mocks, though I think he'll prob be off the board in the early 20's... if he's available, it'd be tough to pass on him.  Very good size, tenacious on the field, can really get after it off the edge.

    *Next Man In- Barrett Jones

    Rd 2:

    DT- Sylvester Williams-  Big, athletic DT with a good motor and athleticism... might get some Rd 1 looks.

    CB- Logan Ryan- CB with good size, versatility and ball skills... kid is flying up my board.

    WR- DeAndre Hopkins- The top WR on my board, kid has excellent hands, good RAC ability and has shown that he can be the man for a big time program and against elite competition (see Clemson's Bowl victory vs. LSU).

    DE/OLB- Tank Carradine- (Put him here for this exercise, but is prob a Rd 2/3 kid because of the injury).-  Love this kids length, athleticism, motor and ability to make plays behind the LOS.

    *Next Man In- DE/OLB Margus Hunt

    Rd 3:

    WR- Ryan Swope- I bigger (6-0 205) slot WR with excellent hands and the abilty to create after the catch.  Looks like a very reliable player to me.

    DL- Kapron Lewis-Moore- Has the size/length (6-4 305) and experience in a 34 to be a true 5-tech.  Is also a leader on ND's team.

    CB/S- Melvin White- Kid's an intriguing size/speed prospect that flashes elite physicality.  at 6-3 191, he has the skill set to project to both CB and S at the pro level.

    S- Shawn Willams- Big versatile S with good speed and physicality.  He’s also a high effort player and I love the SEC experience.

    *Next Man In- CB Micah Hyde

     

     
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    Still early as thinks will change

    Rd 1:

    DT -Jonathan Jenkins,  seems Jesse Williams is moving past him on draft boards, maybe.

    OL- Barrett  Jones - versatile plug and play on the OL

    DE/OLB- Sam Montgomery

    WR- Justin Hunter   ( I know BB never goes 1st round with WR) I think he will still be around

     

    Rd 2:

    DL - Kawann Short - I like Williams too , but S.Williams will be gone before Patriots pick.  Short seems to be a bit like M. Pryor

    OL- Larry Warford - Road Grader 4 year starter

    DE/OLB Margus Hunt - cannot wait till 3rd round,

    S- Eric Reid - He is better in Zone coverage.  I don´t think he goes as high as everyone thinks.

    WR- DeAndre Hopkins

     

    Rd 3:

    WR Ryan Swope

    OG Gabe Jackson - had solid games against Alabama and LSU.  Stronger Run blocker than pass protector

    S Bacarri Rambo - Rambo was suspended for the first four games this season. Will drop to here.

    DE/OLB Cornellius Carradine - I have seen Steven Muench say he may still go late first/early second.  Not sure.

     

     
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    those who guaranteed a nd win didnt exactly come out right.....? 

    jint..

     
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    i knew when i heard saban was going ot bama, combinnig bama's name recruiting ability with saban's recruiting and coaching that it wasnt going ot be fair. and im an sec-er (from).

    with lsu, tex a and m, lsu and florida next year, sec should be even stronger.

     
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    Dee Milliner solidified his top 15 selection



    for sure, as if he needed to

     
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    included in 2013 draft pats 2013 # 1 for #1 of team the braintrust (aka bb) and or teh psychics, predict to have the most losses in 2013 for AJ Mcarren or our 2014 #1 for 2015 #1 pick of 2114 worst team to get johnny manziel?

    who do you like more?

    mccaren has IT and can make all the throws

    manziel has IT + (as in A+), makes the throws and runs his @ss off (which means he could get hurt, though he never gets hit bad. hes like gretsky knowing where everyone is at all times).

    I love both these guys.

     
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    OK.  If either Warmack (Highly doubtful) or Barrett Jones make it to our 1st round pick, I'd love to see BB pull this trigger on either one.  Both guys look to be really solid O-Linemen for years to come and both would be a great investment.  Jesse Williams looked very powerful until he got hurt late, and I wouldn't mind seeing him in a Pats uni either.  It is hard not to like all of the "Bama prospects after last night.  Is McCarron coming out this year?  If he is he really improved his draft stock last night. 

    Now for the ugly.  ND had a game to forget, obviously.  I hate to judge guys based off of one game, but when it is the biggest game of the year on a national stage I think it's fair to analyze guys more.  These are the games when great players need to play like it, and sadly Te'o looked pretty bad last night.  Now I'm not a ND fan at all, never will be, but before last night I really though Te'o was great.  I thought he was was worthy of a Top 20 pick.  Love the kid and love his story.  With that being said, he got owned last night.  I can't count how many tackles he missed, and he looked like he was trying to arm tackle all night.  He looked a step slow and I really think his draft stock could slide pretty drastically due to last night.  He could very well be available late 1st round, but I wouldn't want to touch him there.  We'll see how it shakes out, but he looks like a 2nd rounder to me at this point.  On a positive note, MB's safety #17 (Motta?) was all over the place in the early part of the game, when the Irish still had some fight left.  He was beaten in coverage quite a bit througout the night, but I liked how he finished plays and he was one of the few guys with a gold helmet who looked like he wanted to compete.  I liked what I saw from him, and think he would make a fine mid-round selection.  Eifert was hard to get a read on, as he didn't have much of an opportunity.  I know the kid can play.  He has great height and great hands, but I question his ability to block NFL D-Linemen.  He looks a little lean.  Either way, he didn't hurt himself last night and should be a late 1st or early 2nd round pick.

     
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    In response to ricky12684's comment:

    Dee Milliner solidified his top 15 selection




    Yeah, I agree.  He played tight coverage all night and set up that pick early in the 2nd half with the batted ball.  Great looking CB prospect.

     
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    That Tide O LIne was dominant. There could be a few players (Warmack, Jones, Fluker) that improved their stock so much that they probably won't be there at pick#32. I, like most, love Jones' versatility.

    Just an observation, but the Tide program is starting to look like the Miami program; just good NFL prospects all over the place.

     
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    I just don't like taking a RG in the 1st. You can find pro-bowl RG's outside the 1st so why spend high on one of the least important positions on the OL? Now mid-late 2nd is a different story. I'd be happy to trade that 1st's back into the mid 2nd and grabbing a G then. Also, don't fall in love with LG's and think they can make the move to RG. Not a lot of G's can do that. Drafting a LG and expecting them to start at RG might never happen. For example Light was a pro-bowl LT but was a horrible RT

     
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    I just don't like taking a RG in the 1st. You can find pro-bowl RG's outside the 1st so why spend high on one of the least important positions on the OL? Now mid-late 2nd is a different story. I'd be happy to trade that 1st's back into the mid 2nd and grabbing a G then. Also, don't fall in love with LG's and think they can make the move to RG. Not a lot of G's can do that. Drafting a LG and expecting them to start at RG might never happen. For example Light was a pro-bowl LT but was a horrible RT



    Yeah, that's the only drawback to drafting Jones/Warmack in the first round.  NE has had a ton of success finding and developing very good interior OL later in the draft so it is hard to justify spending a premuium pick on one.  I'd still like the move to draft either guy late 1st though because it is pretty much a low risk, slam dunk pick.

     
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    OK.  If either Warmack (Highly doubtful) or Barrett Jones make it to our 1st round pick, I'd love to see BB pull this trigger on either one.  Both guys look to be really solid O-Linemen for years to come and both would be a great investment.  Jesse Williams looked very powerful until he got hurt late, and I wouldn't mind seeing him in a Pats uni either.  It is hard not to like all of the "Bama prospects after last night.  Is McCarron coming out this year?  If he is he really improved his draft stock last night. 

    Now for the ugly.  ND had a game to forget, obviously.  I hate to judge guys based off of one game, but when it is the biggest game of the year on a national stage I think it's fair to analyze guys more.  These are the games when great players need to play like it, and sadly Te'o looked pretty bad last night.  Now I'm not a ND fan at all, never will be, but before last night I really though Te'o was great.  I thought he was was worthy of a Top 20 pick.  Love the kid and love his story.  With that being said, he got owned last night.  I can't count how many tackles he missed, and he looked like he was trying to arm tackle all night.  He looked a step slow and I really think his draft stock could slide pretty drastically due to last night.  He could very well be available late 1st round, but I wouldn't want to touch him there.  We'll see how it shakes out, but he looks like a 2nd rounder to me at this point.  On a positive note, MB's safety #17 (Motta?) was all over the place in the early part of the game, when the Irish still had some fight left.  He was beaten in coverage quite a bit througout the night, but I liked how he finished plays and he was one of the few guys with a gold helmet who looked like he wanted to compete.  I liked what I saw from him, and think he would make a fine mid-round selection.  Eifert was hard to get a read on, as he didn't have much of an opportunity.  I know the kid can play.  He has great height and great hands, but I question his ability to block NFL D-Linemen.  He looks a little lean.  Either way, he didn't hurt himself last night and should be a late 1st or early 2nd round pick.



    aj said hes going back to school

     
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    That Tide O LIne was dominant. There could be a few players (Warmack, Jones, Fluker) that improved their stock so much that they probably won't be there at pick#32. I, like most, love Jones' versatility.

    Just an observation, but the Tide program is starting to look like the Miami program; just good NFL prospects all over the place.

    "the Tide program is starting to look like the Miami program"
    exactly

     
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    I just don't like taking a RG in the 1st. You can find pro-bowl RG's outside the 1st so why spend high on one of the least important positions on the OL? Now mid-late 2nd is a different story. I'd be happy to trade that 1st's back into the mid 2nd and grabbing a G then. Also, don't fall in love with LG's and think they can make the move to RG. Not a lot of G's can do that. Drafting a LG and expecting them to start at RG might never happen. For example Light was a pro-bowl LT but was a horrible RT



    " just don't like taking a RG in the 1st. You can find pro-bowl RG's outside the 1st so why spend high on one of the least important positions on the OL"

    agreed. same wth o line in general.

     
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    OK.  If either Warmack (Highly doubtful) or Barrett Jones make it to our 1st round pick, I'd love to see BB pull this trigger on either one.  Both guys look to be really solid O-Linemen for years to come and both would be a great investment.  Jesse Williams looked very powerful until he got hurt late, and I wouldn't mind seeing him in a Pats uni either.  It is hard not to like all of the "Bama prospects after last night.  Is McCarron coming out this year?  If he is he really improved his draft stock last night. 

    Now for the ugly.  ND had a game to forget, obviously.  I hate to judge guys based off of one game, but when it is the biggest game of the year on a national stage I think it's fair to analyze guys more.  These are the games when great players need to play like it, and sadly Te'o looked pretty bad last night.  Now I'm not a ND fan at all, never will be, but before last night I really though Te'o was great.  I thought he was was worthy of a Top 20 pick.  Love the kid and love his story.  With that being said, he got owned last night.  I can't count how many tackles he missed, and he looked like he was trying to arm tackle all night.  He looked a step slow and I really think his draft stock could slide pretty drastically due to last night.  He could very well be available late 1st round, but I wouldn't want to touch him there.  We'll see how it shakes out, but he looks like a 2nd rounder to me at this point.  On a positive note, MB's safety #17 (Motta?) was all over the place in the early part of the game, when the Irish still had some fight left.  He was beaten in coverage quite a bit througout the night, but I liked how he finished plays and he was one of the few guys with a gold helmet who looked like he wanted to compete.  I liked what I saw from him, and think he would make a fine mid-round selection.  Eifert was hard to get a read on, as he didn't have much of an opportunity.  I know the kid can play.  He has great height and great hands, but I question his ability to block NFL D-Linemen.  He looks a little lean.  Either way, he didn't hurt himself last night and should be a late 1st or early 2nd round pick.



    Warmack will be out of range, IMO... but I think Jones and Jon Cooper could be available.  Williams is the top player on my board, so I'd love that pick.

    Agree, Motta played is azs off, physical kid who's not afraid to attack the LOS.  Not a perfect player and doesn't have a ton of experience, but yes, I think he'll be a solid player for somebody as a Rd 3-5 pick.

    Agree that Te'o's stock could take a hit... though a good showing in the SB (assuming he participates) could alleviate concern, I mean this kid has been an excellent player for (4) years, so it's tough to crush him for a (1) bad game, be it the most important of his career.

     
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    ND TE Tyler Eifert to declare for the draft:

    http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/08/post-bcs-loss-tyler-eifert-declares-for-the-draft/

     
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    OK.  If either Warmack (Highly doubtful) or Barrett Jones make it to our 1st round pick, I'd love to see BB pull this trigger on either one.  Both guys look to be really solid O-Linemen for years to come and both would be a great investment.  Jesse Williams looked very powerful until he got hurt late, and I wouldn't mind seeing him in a Pats uni either.  It is hard not to like all of the "Bama prospects after last night.  Is McCarron coming out this year?  If he is he really improved his draft stock last night. 

    Now for the ugly.  ND had a game to forget, obviously.  I hate to judge guys based off of one game, but when it is the biggest game of the year on a national stage I think it's fair to analyze guys more.  These are the games when great players need to play like it, and sadly Te'o looked pretty bad last night.  Now I'm not a ND fan at all, never will be, but before last night I really though Te'o was great.  I thought he was was worthy of a Top 20 pick.  Love the kid and love his story.  With that being said, he got owned last night.  I can't count how many tackles he missed, and he looked like he was trying to arm tackle all night.  He looked a step slow and I really think his draft stock could slide pretty drastically due to last night.  He could very well be available late 1st round, but I wouldn't want to touch him there.  We'll see how it shakes out, but he looks like a 2nd rounder to me at this point.  On a positive note, MB's safety #17 (Motta?) was all over the place in the early part of the game, when the Irish still had some fight left.  He was beaten in coverage quite a bit througout the night, but I liked how he finished plays and he was one of the few guys with a gold helmet who looked like he wanted to compete.  I liked what I saw from him, and think he would make a fine mid-round selection.  Eifert was hard to get a read on, as he didn't have much of an opportunity.  I know the kid can play.  He has great height and great hands, but I question his ability to block NFL D-Linemen.  He looks a little lean.  Either way, he didn't hurt himself last night and should be a late 1st or early 2nd round pick.



    Warmack will be out of range, IMO... but I think Jones and Jon Cooper could be available.  Williams is the top player on my board, so I'd love that pick.

    Agree, Motta played is azs off, physical kid who's not afraid to attack the LOS.  Not a perfect player and doesn't have a ton of experience, but yes, I think he'll be a solid player for somebody as a Rd 3-5 pick.

    Agree that Te'o's stock could take a hit... though a good showing in the SB (assuming he participates) could alleviate concern, I mean this kid has been an excellent player for (4) years, so it's tough to crush him for a (1) bad game, be it the most important of his career.



    doing the whole heisman thing has taken a lout out of a lto of players (not to mention his losses). im sure he can regain tread

     
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    Re: ***2013 Patriots Draft Thread V2***

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    I would not be opposed to taking this kid if no better options are there.  With Gronk and Hern seldom healthy at the same time another quality TE would really do nicely.  I would love to see what he could do in 3 TE sets.  Can you imagine the mis-matches this would create?  I don't think the Pats are happy with Fells. 

    I actually think our OL is pretty solid and deep.  Thomas and McDonald appear solid back-ups on the inside with Cannon possible at G.  I actually think OT is a bigger need than interior OL if Vollmer doesn't resign or continues to have back problems as there is nothing behind Cannon and nobody to back up Solder on the left side.  

    To be clear, I am not advocating for Eifert over other choices, I'm just saying I could see how he would fit in and make our offense deeper and more lethal. 

     

     
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