***2013 Patriots Draft Thread V2***

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    Chip Kelly to Eagles....

    What are implications for how they might draft? Expectation is for him to implement his uptempo offense. Does he have the right personnel in the current team? 

    Is Foles the right QB (I am assuming Vick is out and Edwards does not show promise)? Kelly's QBs in Oregon like throwing bullets and have very good legs. Where does he get the right QB? Does he draft one? Which round? And which QB?

    Does he have the receivers and RB? 

    Til this news I was on the camp believing only one QB will be taken in the first round. I believe Alex Smith will be available. So could Rivers (if SDC is smart enough to find a deal for him). 

    This news could change the draft dynamic. Smith does not come across to me as the type of QB who could run Kelly's offense. Neither could any of the potential FAs. I think he will have to find his second QB (next to Foles) in the draft.



    agreed.

     
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    If you are the Pats and J. Williams and B. Jones are both on the board who would you prefer?



    can get good o line further down id say.

    still say ansah (if within reach), rhodes (if we get pass rush help in fa), or vaccaro/elam, etc (if no safety in fa) is where id focus in rd 1. and if no pass rush help and ansah gone the next tier of pass rushers before or after the safety.

     
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    On the topic of "Players that don't have elite physical measurables that I'd love to see in Foxboro", there is a new player at the top of my list.

    Syracuse S Shamarko Thomas- Kid measured in at the Shrine Game at a shade under 5-9 (5087 to be exacty), but weighed in at 217 pounds... 217 pounds!

    What I like even more is that he's prob a 4.3 kid and possibly the most physical player that I've seen on tape this year.  He's instinctive, ultra-aggressive, can click/close quickly, takes good angles to the football, is one of the better tacklers that I've seen from the S position (very good in the open field) and will look to tear your head off or at the very least dislodge the football from you... def a Bob Sanders type player... a 5-9, football seeking missile that's programmed with direct cooridinance to seek a destroy... alright, I'm getting ahead of myself a bit, but this kid has me excited... if he's (2) inches taller, he's off the board in Rd 1, IMO, but he'll prob be around on Day 2 due to his height.  He's gonna make one teams GM/Coach look very smart.




    At 5.9 he is the perfect new safety for todays rules. He is too short to get penalized on hits to the head

     
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    On the topic of "Players that don't have elite physical measurables that I'd love to see in Foxboro", there is a new player at the top of my list.

    Syracuse S Shamarko Thomas- Kid measured in at the Shrine Game at a shade under 5-9 (5087 to be exacty), but weighed in at 217 pounds... 217 pounds!

    What I like even more is that he's prob a 4.3 kid and possibly the most physical player that I've seen on tape this year.  He's instinctive, ultra-aggressive, can click/close quickly, takes good angles to the football, is one of the better tacklers that I've seen from the S position (very good in the open field) and will look to tear your head off or at the very least dislodge the football from you... def a Bob Sanders type player... a 5-9, football seeking missile that's programmed with direct cooridinance to seek a destroy... alright, I'm getting ahead of myself a bit, but this kid has me excited... if he's (2) inches taller, he's off the board in Rd 1, IMO, but he'll prob be around on Day 2 due to his height.  He's gonna make one teams GM/Coach look very smart.

     




    At 5.9 he is the perfect new safetyfor todays rules. He is too short to get penalized on hits to the head

     




    Though they'll prob penailize him for physically breaking someone in half, ha.

     
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    On the topic of "Players that don't have elite physical measurables that I'd love to see in Foxboro", there is a new player at the top of my list.

    Syracuse S Shamarko Thomas- Kid measured in at the Shrine Game at a shade under 5-9 (5087 to be exacty), but weighed in at 217 pounds... 217 pounds!

    What I like even more is that he's prob a 4.3 kid and possibly the most physical player that I've seen on tape this year.  He's instinctive, ultra-aggressive, can click/close quickly, takes good angles to the football, is one of the better tacklers that I've seen from the S position (very good in the open field) and will look to tear your head off or at the very least dislodge the football from you... def a Bob Sanders type player... a 5-9, football seeking missile that's programmed with direct cooridinance to seek a destroy... alright, I'm getting ahead of myself a bit, but this kid has me excited... if he's (2) inches taller, he's off the board in Rd 1, IMO, but he'll prob be around on Day 2 due to his height.  He's gonna make one teams GM/Coach look very smart.

     




    At 5.9 he is the perfect new safetyfor todays rules. He is too short to get penalized on hits to the head

     

     




    Though they'll prob penailize him for physically breaking someone in half, ha.

     



    nice description.

    i too like height these days along with everything else.

    will have to take a look see

     
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    I think if they go after a DT in the draft or FA, it should be a pro-bowl caliber type guy. I like what Love, Deadrick and Francis all bring. So that gives you 4 Dts including VW. Love is the heaviest of those 3 (listed at 315 but I'm guessing he's heavier than that, 325 maybe? If they add a stud 340+ and put him next to Vince, who is going to bother to run up the middle on them anymore? They could both push the pocket back while CJ and RN rush the outside and it would trap the QB. I think a pressure can be just as good as a sack in some cases because it'll set someone else up to get a sack or force the QB to make a dumb decision

     



    I agree, unless it is one heck of a stud DT who can do better than Love/Deaderick/Brace or be the next Wilfork, I'm not sure this is a place I would spend our top pick.  Let's face it, there won't be the next VW at pick 30-32.  It would take Williams or Jenkins probably a year or two to be as good as Kyle Love, IMO.  Both players will likely be gone anyway.

     

    Because of my past point that our secondary and the pass coverage aspect of our D will always be tested most because of our high powered offense usually getting out ahead to big leads forcing teams to pass, our emphasis should be on strengthening this part of our defense.  Also, I've shown in past posts that BB drafts as much for contractual reasons and player age as he does "need", a detailed study of who we are likely to lose over the next 1-2 years would be helpful.  A stable roster that is financially responsible are hallmarks of the BB and BK era.


    Guys we have with 10+ experience heading counting 2013 are:


    Tom Brady (14)

    Deon Branch (12)

    Brandon Llyod (11)

    Vince Wilfork (10)

    Tracy White (10)

    Niko Koutouvides (10)

    Wes Welker (10)


    Like we saw when we drafted 2 TEs and 2 RBs in a single year based on age and contractual issues, we could see us actually spend two picks on WRs this year assuming we don't do anything in F/A considering we have 3 WRs with 10+ years experience and one who will be a F/A.  WR is perhaps the most unstable position in terms of roster stability on the team.

     

     




    I think Williams starts Day 1 if they take him.

     

    In regards to WR I agree that there is some potential instability there due to age and with WW (hopefully they atleast tag him) and Edelman both being FA's.  Could very well see them target a WR in the high rounds (Hopkins is my #1 guy) and in FA, whether it be their own players or someone else, like a Hartline or Amendola (who might also get tagged?) or Donnie Avery or Brandon Gibson or maybe a RFA like Emmanuel Sanders.




    Agreed but it's rare that they go after a RFA unless the 2nd round tender is made and I don't see that happening with Sanders.  Hartline is the Dolphins best WR, doubt they let him walk.  Amendola has been injury prone of late having played in only 12 games the past two seasons.  Avery turns 29 this summer but I agree, we will likely look to F/A to add a WR, just not sure which one as I haven't studied the F/A list yet. 

     

     
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    On the topic of "Players that don't have elite physical measurables that I'd love to see in Foxboro", there is a new player at the top of my list.

    Syracuse S Shamarko Thomas- Kid measured in at the Shrine Game at a shade under 5-9 (5087 to be exacty), but weighed in at 217 pounds... 217 pounds!

    What I like even more is that he's prob a 4.3 kid and possibly the most physical player that I've seen on tape this year.  He's instinctive, ultra-aggressive, can click/close quickly, takes good angles to the football, is one of the better tacklers that I've seen from the S position (very good in the open field) and will look to tear your head off or at the very least dislodge the football from you... def a Bob Sanders type player... a 5-9, football seeking missile that's programmed with direct cooridinance to seek a destroy... alright, I'm getting ahead of myself a bit, but this kid has me excited... if he's (2) inches taller, he's off the board in Rd 1, IMO, but he'll prob be around on Day 2 due to his height.  He's gonna make one teams GM/Coach look very smart.

     




    At 5.9 he is the perfect new safetyfor todays rules. He is too short to get penalized on hits to the head

     

     




    Though they'll prob penailize him for physically breaking someone in half, ha.

     


    love it   maybe the new Rodney albeit a little   ( OK a lot) shorter

    2 questions

    4.3 speed does he return kicks?

    Do you think Marone with the Bills would scoff him up on day 2?

     

     

     

     
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    On the topic of "Players that don't have elite physical measurables that I'd love to see in Foxboro", there is a new player at the top of my list.

    Syracuse S Shamarko Thomas- Kid measured in at the Shrine Game at a shade under 5-9 (5087 to be exacty), but weighed in at 217 pounds... 217 pounds!

    What I like even more is that he's prob a 4.3 kid and possibly the most physical player that I've seen on tape this year.  He's instinctive, ultra-aggressive, can click/close quickly, takes good angles to the football, is one of the better tacklers that I've seen from the S position (very good in the open field) and will look to tear your head off or at the very least dislodge the football from you... def a Bob Sanders type player... a 5-9, football seeking missile that's programmed with direct cooridinance to seek a destroy... alright, I'm getting ahead of myself a bit, but this kid has me excited... if he's (2) inches taller, he's off the board in Rd 1, IMO, but he'll prob be around on Day 2 due to his height.  He's gonna make one teams GM/Coach look very smart.

     




    At 5.9 he is the perfect new safetyfor todays rules. He is too short to get penalized on hits to the head

     

     




    Though they'll prob penailize him for physically breaking someone in half, ha.

     

     


    love it   maybe the new Rodney albeit a little   ( OK a lot) shorter

    2 questions

     

    4.3 speed does he return kicks?

    Do you think Marone with the Bills would scoff him up on day 2?

     

     

     



    Don't believe he returns kicks, Marrone could very well do so... def the kinda kid that I'd want on my team if I was trying to establish a tougher culture.

     
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    too bad about te'o.

    whether he started the hoax or hid and held it, you gotta have some empathy for the kid. he has some issues or he has some SERIOUS issues. he really will need some professional help.

     
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    get this mb, walter has ansah 9 today and jordan 19. certainly the opposite of most mocks.

     i prefer ansah, but jordan is an athletic freak and i imagine will be a good pass rusher.

     
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    too bad about te'o.

    whether he started the hoax or hid and held it, you gotta have some empathy for the kid. he has some issues or he has some SERIOUS issues. he really will need some professional help.



    Def waiting for all the facts to come out, but yeah, weird weird story... IMO, he may not have started the hoax, but he looks to have perpetuated it.  Could def cause him to drop in the draft.

     
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    get this mb, walter has ansah 9 today and jordan 19. certainly the opposite of most mocks.

     i prefer ansah, but jordan is an athletic freak and i imagine will be a good pass rusher.




    This is one reason why I like to do my own research on a player... get a feel for where I think they'll go.  I enjoy mocks that aren't cookie cutter... NFP is like that, they're grades generally vary greatly from other boards and I appreciate that... for example, they have Oregon LB Kiko Alonso as their #28 overall player.  I've seen this kid on tape and he doesn't look like the Rd 4-5 projection that you see of him on some boards... def a kid that moves well, is ultra aggressive and has good size... I think he'll be off the board at some point on Day 2.

     
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    In response to bredbru's comment:Unrelated to your present conversation but what does the infusion of 75 underclassmen to this draft do for the talent pool?

     

     

    get this mb, walter has ansah 9 today and jordan 19. certainly the opposite of most mocks.

     i prefer ansah, but jordan is an athletic freak and i imagine will be a good pass rusher.

     




    This is one reason why I like to do my own research on a player... get a feel for where I think they'll go.  I enjoy mocks that aren't cookie cutter... NFP is like that, they're grades generally vary greatly from other boards and I appreciate that... for example, they have Oregon LB Kiko Alonso as their #28 overall player.  I've seen this kid on tape and he doesn't look like the Rd 4-5 projection that you see of him on some boards... def a kid that moves well, is ultra aggressive and has good size... I think he'll be off the board at some point on Day 2.

     




     
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    im seeing a lot more of xavier rhodes to pats as time goes on (inlcuding today buffalo bills draft .com)

    as long as we get a pass rusher in fa or rd 2 (i dont expect oakafor to make it to teh end of rd 2 so we may need to be flexible), i'll take him (rhodes) all day.

    by the way, re the many sites who have pats taking austin. a guy who can do so many thiings with the ball. hello, weve got demps next year.

    how bout something we dont have (hopkins, hunter, rogers, williams, patterson, allen, etc): speed, height, size, and hands in one package

     
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    I don't think Elam will be there so if I had to choose a DB in the 1st Rhodes would be my choice too. The guy is a big body thumper CB who can punch you at the line and has the speed to stay with WR's. The only thing I question is he didn't have a ton of great competition to face and the few good WR's he was put against he was used in mostly zone of with help. I question his man coverage ability without help if he presses at the line. But a 6'2" 215lb CB with sub 4.5 speed is raw. If they resign Talib having Talib and Dennard on WR's and Rhodes on the TE/large possession WR's would certainly provide and edge to the Pats

     
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    I don't think Elam will be there so if I had to choose a DB in the 1st Rhodes would be my choice too. The guy is a big body thumper CB who can punch you at the line and has the speed to stay with WR's. The only thing I question is he didn't have a ton of great competition to face and the few good WR's he was put against he was used in mostly zone of with help. I question his man coverage ability without help if he presses at the line. But a 6'2" 215lb CB with sub 4.5 speed is raw. If they resign Talib having Talib and Dennard on WR's and Rhodes on the TE/large possession WR's would certainly provide and edge to the Pats



    and dowling for depth.

    by the way mb, 

    teh guy everyone here hates, kiper, has pats taking one of my (and your) guys, hopkins in rd 1.

     
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    I don't think Elam will be there so if I had to choose a DB in the 1st Rhodes would be my choice too. The guy is a big body thumper CB who can punch you at the line and has the speed to stay with WR's. The only thing I question is he didn't have a ton of great competition to face and the few good WR's he was put against he was used in mostly zone of with help. I question his man coverage ability without help if he presses at the line. But a 6'2" 215lb CB with sub 4.5 speed is raw. If they resign Talib having Talib and Dennard on WR's and Rhodes on the TE/large possession WR's would certainly provide and edge to the Pats

     



    and dowling for depth.

     

    by the way mb, 

    teh guy everyone here hates, kiper, has pats taking one of my (and your) guys, hopkins in rd 1.



    Well that solidifies it, Hopkins won't be the pick

     
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    I don't think Elam will be there so if I had to choose a DB in the 1st Rhodes would be my choice too. The guy is a big body thumper CB who can punch you at the line and has the speed to stay with WR's. The only thing I question is he didn't have a ton of great competition to face and the few good WR's he was put against he was used in mostly zone of with help. I question his man coverage ability without help if he presses at the line. But a 6'2" 215lb CB with sub 4.5 speed is raw. If they resign Talib having Talib and Dennard on WR's and Rhodes on the TE/large possession WR's would certainly provide and edge to the Pats

     



    and dowling for depth.

     

    by the way mb, 

    teh guy everyone here hates, kiper, has pats taking one of my (and your) guys, hopkins in rd 1.

     



    Well that solidifies it, Hopkins won't be the pick

     



    :)

    bb , in 2013, wr in rd 1, <%5 chance

     
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    I like the Rhodes option, curios to see what his SS/3C #'s will be as BB generally drafts kids with good COD/lateral agility.

    I also have Rutger's CB Logan Ryan (6-0 190) in the potential Rd 1 CB discussion.  Good size, versatile kid that can play press/off/zone and gets his hands on a ton of footballs (21 PD: 17 PBU / 4 INT's).

     
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    im seeing a lot more of xavier rhodes to pats as time goes on (inlcuding today buffalo bills draft .com)

    as long as we get a pass rusher in fa or rd 2 (i dont expect oakafor to make it to teh end of rd 2 so we may need to be flexible), i'll take him (rhodes) all day.

    by the way, re the many sites who have pats taking austin. a guy who can do so many thiings with the ball. hello, weve got demps next year.

    how bout something we dont have (hopkins, hunter, rogers, williams, patterson, allen, etc): speed, height, size, and hands in one package



    I think South Carolina WR Ace Sanders on Day 2 provides better value than Tavon Austin in Rd 1.  Both are smaller (Sanders 5-8 175, Austin 5-9 175), ultra-quick big play type kids that can impact the game anytime they touch the ball... Austin had the luxury of playing in a more dynamic/pass happy offense (WVU attempted 532 passes to SC's 365), thus more touches/opportunities, though Sanders scored on 20% of his receptions (45 Rec / 9 TD's)... Sanders was also more effective as a PR man.

    I have Sanders as the #3 WR on my board, behind Hopkins and Woods... check him out.

     
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    im seeing a lot more of xavier rhodes to pats as time goes on (inlcuding today buffalo bills draft .com)

    as long as we get a pass rusher in fa or rd 2 (i dont expect oakafor to make it to teh end of rd 2 so we may need to be flexible), i'll take him (rhodes) all day.

    by the way, re the many sites who have pats taking austin. a guy who can do so many thiings with the ball. hello, weve got demps next year.

    how bout something we dont have (hopkins, hunter, rogers, williams, patterson, allen, etc): speed, height, size, and hands in one package

     



    I think South Carolina WR Ace Sanders on Day 2 provides better value than Tavon Austin in Rd 1.  Both are smaller (Sanders 5-8 175, Austin 5-9 175), ultra-quick big play type kids that can impact the game anytime they touch the ball... Austin had the luxury of playing in a more dynamic/pass happy offense (WVU attempted 532 passes to SC's 365), thus more touches/opportunities, though Sanders scored on 20% of his receptions (45 Rec / 9 TD's)... Sanders was also more effective as a PR man.

     

    I have Sanders as the #3 WR on my board, behind Hopkins and Woods... check him out.



    sure, but only wr i want is the big kind. weve ahd the littles for years. i want one good big wr.

     

     
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    im seeing a lot more of xavier rhodes to pats as time goes on (inlcuding today buffalo bills draft .com)

    as long as we get a pass rusher in fa or rd 2 (i dont expect oakafor to make it to teh end of rd 2 so we may need to be flexible), i'll take him (rhodes) all day.

    by the way, re the many sites who have pats taking austin. a guy who can do so many thiings with the ball. hello, weve got demps next year.

    how bout something we dont have (hopkins, hunter, rogers, williams, patterson, allen, etc): speed, height, size, and hands in one package

     



    I think South Carolina WR Ace Sanders on Day 2 provides better value than Tavon Austin in Rd 1.  Both are smaller (Sanders 5-8 175, Austin 5-9 175), ultra-quick big play type kids that can impact the game anytime they touch the ball... Austin had the luxury of playing in a more dynamic/pass happy offense (WVU attempted 532 passes to SC's 365), thus more touches/opportunities, though Sanders scored on 20% of his receptions (45 Rec / 9 TD's)... Sanders was also more effective as a PR man.

     

    I have Sanders as the #3 WR on my board, behind Hopkins and Woods... check him out.

     



    sure, but only wr i want is the big kind. weve ahd the littles for years. i want one good big wr.

     

     



    Not necessarily the Megatron types. I think they'd be unstoppable if they had  T Smith type - around 6 ft but really strong and decent speed.

     
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    In response to bredbru's comment:agreed

     

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    im seeing a lot more of xavier rhodes to pats as time goes on (inlcuding today buffalo bills draft .com)

    as long as we get a pass rusher in fa or rd 2 (i dont expect oakafor to make it to teh end of rd 2 so we may need to be flexible), i'll take him (rhodes) all day.

    by the way, re the many sites who have pats taking austin. a guy who can do so many thiings with the ball. hello, weve got demps next year.

    how bout something we dont have (hopkins, hunter, rogers, williams, patterson, allen, etc): speed, height, size, and hands in one package

     



    I think South Carolina WR Ace Sanders on Day 2 provides better value than Tavon Austin in Rd 1.  Both are smaller (Sanders 5-8 175, Austin 5-9 175), ultra-quick big play type kids that can impact the game anytime they touch the ball... Austin had the luxury of playing in a more dynamic/pass happy offense (WVU attempted 532 passes to SC's 365), thus more touches/opportunities, though Sanders scored on 20% of his receptions (45 Rec / 9 TD's)... Sanders was also more effective as a PR man.

     

    I have Sanders as the #3 WR on my board, behind Hopkins and Woods... check him out.

     



    sure, but only wr i want is the big kind. weve ahd the littles for years. i want one good big wr.

     

     

     



    Not necessarily the Megatron types. I think they'd be unstoppable if they had  T Smith type - around 6 ft but really strong and decent speed.

     

     




     

    agreed.

    there are many 6 2" 200 + fast agile receivers with hands.

    a t smith type would be fine

     
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    im seeing a lot more of xavier rhodes to pats as time goes on (inlcuding today buffalo bills draft .com)

    as long as we get a pass rusher in fa or rd 2 (i dont expect oakafor to make it to teh end of rd 2 so we may need to be flexible), i'll take him (rhodes) all day.

    by the way, re the many sites who have pats taking austin. a guy who can do so many thiings with the ball. hello, weve got demps next year.

    how bout something we dont have (hopkins, hunter, rogers, williams, patterson, allen, etc): speed, height, size, and hands in one package

     



    I think South Carolina WR Ace Sanders on Day 2 provides better value than Tavon Austin in Rd 1.  Both are smaller (Sanders 5-8 175, Austin 5-9 175), ultra-quick big play type kids that can impact the game anytime they touch the ball... Austin had the luxury of playing in a more dynamic/pass happy offense (WVU attempted 532 passes to SC's 365), thus more touches/opportunities, though Sanders scored on 20% of his receptions (45 Rec / 9 TD's)... Sanders was also more effective as a PR man.

     

    I have Sanders as the #3 WR on my board, behind Hopkins and Woods... check him out.

     



    sure, but only wr i want is the big kind. weve ahd the littles for years. i want one good big wr.

     

     




    The other guy who hasnt received much pub around here is Keenan Allen WR fom Cal. I havent mentioned him in the past since I just assumed he would be out of our range. However it seems he is being devalued the further along we get into this draft process. He played with a pretty bad quarterback this past season but still put up respectable numbers. At 6-3, 215 he has a very good size speed combo and is very similar in playing style to Robert Woods WR from USC. Difference being that he has better size and speed.

     
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    Re: ***2013 Patriots Draft Thread V2***

    Forgive me if someone has already mentioned this before. With Mike Lombardi's hire as VP of Player Personell in Cleveland, there is a rumor swirling around the internet that Cleveland would look into trading for Ryan Mallet quite possibly giving up their number 6 overall pick to do so. I would not be surprised if Lombardi was interested in Mallet but it would shock me if they surrendered their first round pick for him. Earlier this year when he was an analyst at NFL Network, he publicly trashed the Brandon Weeden pick and just today he refused to endorse Weeden publicly but instead said he needed more time to evaluate him. When you compound this with statements he had made last year that he would trade for Brian Hoyer if he were starting a new franchise, makes me think he will influence a trade for Mallet. Only thing that stops the trade IMO is if the GM Joe Banner does not share the enthusiasm for Mallet. I will be following this closely. Fascinating stuff!

     
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