***2013 Patriots Draft Thread V2***

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    I think that with yet another playoff loss this season, that we need to shake something up on the offense because yet again we put up lots of points during the regular season games, but continue to time and time again struggle to score more than 21 points when facing teams with good defenses.

    We have too much of an emphasis on short to intermediate routes in the passing game.  With Welker about to hit free agency at the age of 32 years old, I think I would consider signing someone like Mike Wallace who is coming off of a down year but typically puts up big numbers, can stretch the field and is also 5 years younger than Welker. 

    Signing Talib to an incentive laden deal is a no brainer in my opinion because of how he stabilzes our secondary. I would consider letting Vollmer walk in free agency in order to net the potential savings from having to shell out big bucks in order to re-sign him.  With the money that would've gone to him, I would instead make a play to sign Dashon Goldson in free agency (might take upwards of 8mil/yr to get it done.

    As far as the draft is concerned....  I would target someone like Jesse Williams (with our first pick) to pair with Wilfork on the D-line.  Wilfork is starting to get up there in age (although he's still a beast)so having someone next to him that can draw double teams and stop the run is crucial.

    In the second round, I'd select Oday Aboushi in order to replace Vollmer at RT.  In the third round I'd take Tyrann Mathieu as a FS/CB.  He has off the field issues for sure (the Patriots have shown a willingness to overlook these sort of things a la Dillon, Moss, Hernandez, Haynesworth, & Talib) so I wouldn't be surprised if they would take a chance on him. 

     
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    Back to the drawing board. This team wins in the regular season but cant seal the deal when it matters . Without gronk this offense doesn't scare anyone. Welker can't be the number one option anymore. We lack athleticism on o and can use a talent like a Julio jones. Our defense completely different without Talib . Amazing how drastically it can change. We lack explosion , pass rush and have coverage issues. Can't believe it after we have invested so much.

    guys, I am reeling like most of you. How do we get this team over the 8 year hump? 

     



    Agreed, he's definitely offseason priority #1 on the defensive side of the ball.

     

     

    Agree, but also a wr needed.


     



    If I am not mistaken, he's never completed a season. Always out to injuries for a significant period. Frankly, I have my doubts that Dennard will be the type who completes seasons either. 

    I believe another strong CB is also the priority in the draft.

     
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    offseason

     

    2 big wr's

    1 big cb

    1 big safety

    1 pass rusher

    1 fast linebacker

    best off coord we can get.

    fire the coachign staff below bb.

    hire a real gm. bb learns to share.

    if that makes bb leave then so be it.

     




    I agree with your player needs exactly but not sure I agree McDaniel's should be fired.  He led the #1 Offense that outscored the #2 offense by 100 points.  He brought back a credible running game.  But, he called a poor game against the Ravens, either he or BB.  We were way to conservative on those 4th and makeable distances inside the Raven's 35.  But some of this is Brady.  Brady just does not play well against the Ravens.  He plays the worst against them.

     


    Thankfully Ray is gone and I hope Ed too.  But the Ravens still have a load D. 



    I am not saying McD should be fired. I just want to point out that they were the #1 offense without him too. He probably is not the reason why they accumulate yards and points in the reg season. 

    I just wish they spend time developing ways of winning outside of TB's arm, and proving it through tough games.

     
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    Back to the drawing board. This team wins in the regular season but cant seal the deal when it matters . Without gronk this offense doesn't scare anyone. Welker can't be the number one option anymore. We lack athleticism on o and can use a talent like a Julio jones. Our defense completely different without Talib . Amazing how drastically it can change. We lack explosion , pass rush and have coverage issues. Can't believe it after we have invested so much.

    guys, I am reeling like most of you. How do we get this team over the 8 year hump? 

     



    Agreed, he's definitely offseason priority #1 on the defensive side of the ball.

     

     

    Agree, but also a wr needed.


     

     



    If I am not mistaken, he's never completed a season. Always out to injuries for a significant period. Frankly, I have my doubts that Dennard will be the type who completes seasons either. 

     

    I believe another strong CB is also the priority in the draft.



    BTW... Until I see Dowling play at least 10 games in a season, I am not counting him as the third CB.

     
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    Mb or whoever,

    What is the deal with Kenneth Tate, LB Maryland?  Remember a couple of years ago when he was a S a lot of us thought top 10 pick.  Then he transitioned to OLB.  He's listed at 6-4, 220.  I remember some vicious hits he got on the QB on safety blitzes.  Might he be able to switch back to strong safety or play nickel LB?  Right now it's 50/50 if this kid even gets drafted.




    Faucet, he is projected by NFLDRAFTScout as #31 out of 252 OLBs.  Had a right knee injury earlier in his career. Projected to run a 4.74 forty.  I would say a bit slow for safety.  7th round or UDFA.

     
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    Some things have been painfully clear.

    #1 We need more and better CB's. I'd make Talib signing priority #1 this offseason as the team is drastically different without him then with him. Beyond that they need depth and lots of it. Lets face it Williams, Cole, Arrington you can let them all go and I don't trust Ras to stay healthy as far as I can kick him

    #2 We need an inside pass rush. The outside rushers seemed to be fine but Flacco just stepped up into the pocket all day. When you have 5yrds to step up it doesn't matter if the outside edge rush collapses the ends you can just step up. It was clear doubling Wilfork basically meant Flacco had a clean pocket. They desperately need someone next to Wilfork to take advantage of the double team

    #3 We need a receiver to fight for the ball. Gronk is the only one of our receiving corp that will fight for a ball but he's not always there. Now I don't think they need to completely rebuild the WR core with large guys but they need at least 1 guy who can do it. 1 person that creates match up issues and no a deep threat isn't that type of guy. I'm thinking a Manningham, Bolden, Bowe type of guy.

    Just looking over FA and draft here's what I'd like to see:

    FA:

    WR - Let Welker go. It's painful for me to say that but I think his money could be better used in other places. Sign Bowe. He's a bigger possession WR who can play on all 3 levels and make plays after the catch. He's exactly what the doctor calls for. Unless the Giants are not smart enough to tender Cruz at the top RFA level then I'd gladly give up some picks for Cruz

    DT - I'd love to see Melton or Starks in here but they could price themselves out. Frankly if you don't get either then I'm not even looking at the FA market for an interior pass rush

    CB - I want Talib back but in addition some guys I'm looking for in FA as solid #2/3 guys Tony Carter, Chris Houston, Keenan Lewis

     

    Draft:

    1st - To me the 1st has to go on the D side. I want an interior rusher or a CB but there are limited options where we are sitted. To me it boils down to 3 guys Rhodes, Jenkins, Williams. All 3 have a shot of being there in the back of the 20's and all 3 would be upgrades to what we currently have on the roster.

    2nd - This is where it spreads out a bit and there is more debate on players but again I'm primarily looking at 3 guys McFadden CB, Hunt DE/DT,  Da'Rick Rogers. McFadden to me is a guy I really like. I want to see how he does at the bowl against better competition but I just see this kid as being an extremely solid dependable cover corner in the league. Hunt is a guy who can swing inside or out which makes him a 3 down player. If he gains another 10lbs he could be a very solid D player on the line with trememdous flexibility. Rogers is a first round talent if not for off field drug concerns but BB doesn't seem to shy away from that it the value is right. Rogers is the big ellusive WR I think we need, if he can keep his noise clean

    3rd - Back to the skill position I'm look exclusively at DB's and a WR here. I really like Hyde as a potential bigger slot CB or a S conversion and also Sanders Commings who is a bigger CB and had a great game against Tenn's top end WR talent. For WR there's really only two names for me Ryan Swope who started the season off really slow but had great games against Ala and Miss state. He destroyed Ala's secondary which is impressive enough and deserves a long look. The other WR is Markus Wheaton. He can be explosive once the ball is in his hands but I'd like to see video of what he looks like against better competition.

     

    My ideal offseason - 

    FA - Sign Talib, Bowe, Starks, Vollmer, Edelman, Woodhead, depth on OL

    Draft - 1st Rhodes, 2nd Hunt (Starks makes Williams and Jenkins redundant), 3rd Wheaton/Swope (depending on bowl), trade into 5th Tyrann Mathieu (hedging CB bets)

    I'd be pretty happy with that offseason

     
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    Nice list PatsEng. Question, if you don't land an FA DT, where do you get one? Hunt I like, but is he a kid that can play inside next to vw and command doubles and penetrate?

    bowe would be interesting here. I question his football smarts and ability to pick up the offense, but his skill and size is near perfect. 

     
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    Mb or whoever,

    What is the deal with Kenneth Tate, LB Maryland?  Remember a couple of years ago when he was a S a lot of us thought top 10 pick.  Then he transitioned to OLB.  He's listed at 6-4, 220.  I remember some vicious hits he got on the QB on safety blitzes.  Might he be able to switch back to strong safety or play nickel LB?  Right now it's 50/50 if this kid even gets drafted.

     




    Faucet, he is projected by NFLDRAFTScout as #31 out of 252 OLBs.  Had a right knee injury earlier in his career. Projected to run a 4.74 forty.  I would say a bit slow for safety.  7th round or UDFA.

     




    Thanks for the update.  Shame, the kid looked so promising two years ago.

     
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    Below are some notable "measurables" from the Senior Bowl:

    DT- John Jenkins- 6037-359, 33.1/8 arms.

    OLB- Chase Thomas- 6-31-241 (smaller than I had hoped), would be more of an ILB in NE's scheme.

    DE/OLB- Michael Buchanan- 6051-252, 33.1/4 arms.  I liked this kid better than Mercilus when reviewing Illinois tape last year.  Prob a Rd 2-4 kid.

    DE- Margus Hunt- 6082 277, 33.3/8 arms.  Kid is friQQin long!

    DT- Kawaan Short- 6032-308, 33.34 arms.  Lighter than I thought he'd be.

    DE- John Simon- 6014 256, 32.3/4 arms.  Interested to see how much or if Meyer/Vrabel can influence here.

    OT- DJ Fluker- 644-355, 36.38 arms.

    DE/OLB- Ziggy Ansah- Measureables should be available today.

     
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    Some things have been painfully clear.

    #1 We need more and better CB's. I'd make Talib signing priority #1 this offseason as the team is drastically different without him then with him. Beyond that they need depth and lots of it. Lets face it Williams, Cole, Arrington you can let them all go and I don't trust Ras to stay healthy as far as I can kick him

    #2 We need an inside pass rush. The outside rushers seemed to be fine but Flacco just stepped up into the pocket all day. When you have 5yrds to step up it doesn't matter if the outside edge rush collapses the ends you can just step up. It was clear doubling Wilfork basically meant Flacco had a clean pocket. They desperately need someone next to Wilfork to take advantage of the double team

    #3 We need a receiver to fight for the ball. Gronk is the only one of our receiving corp that will fight for a ball but he's not always there. Now I don't think they need to completely rebuild the WR core with large guys but they need at least 1 guy who can do it. 1 person that creates match up issues and no a deep threat isn't that type of guy. I'm thinking a Manningham, Bolden, Bowe type of guy.

    Just looking over FA and draft here's what I'd like to see:

    FA:

    WR - Let Welker go. It's painful for me to say that but I think his money could be better used in other places. Sign Bowe. He's a bigger possession WR who can play on all 3 levels and make plays after the catch. He's exactly what the doctor calls for. Unless the Giants are not smart enough to tender Cruz at the top RFA level then I'd gladly give up some picks for Cruz

    DT - I'd love to see Melton or Starks in here but they could price themselves out. Frankly if you don't get either then I'm not even looking at the FA market for an interior pass rush

    CB - I want Talib back but in addition some guys I'm looking for in FA as solid #2/3 guys Tony Carter, Chris Houston, Keenan Lewis

     

    Draft:

    1st - To me the 1st has to go on the D side. I want an interior rusher or a CB but there are limited options where we are sitted. To me it boils down to 3 guys Rhodes, Jenkins, Williams. All 3 have a shot of being there in the back of the 20's and all 3 would be upgrades to what we currently have on the roster.

    2nd - This is where it spreads out a bit and there is more debate on players but again I'm primarily looking at 3 guys McFadden CB, Hunt DE/DT,  Da'Rick Rogers. McFadden to me is a guy I really like. I want to see how he does at the bowl against better competition but I just see this kid as being an extremely solid dependable cover corner in the league. Hunt is a guy who can swing inside or out which makes him a 3 down player. If he gains another 10lbs he could be a very solid D player on the line with trememdous flexibility. Rogers is a first round talent if not for off field drug concerns but BB doesn't seem to shy away from that it the value is right. Rogers is the big ellusive WR I think we need, if he can keep his noise clean

    3rd - Back to the skill position I'm look exclusively at DB's and a WR here. I really like Hyde as a potential bigger slot CB or a S conversion and also Sanders Commings who is a bigger CB and had a great game against Tenn's top end WR talent. For WR there's really only two names for me Ryan Swope who started the season off really slow but had great games against Ala and Miss state. He destroyed Ala's secondary which is impressive enough and deserves a long look. The other WR is Markus Wheaton. He can be explosive once the ball is in his hands but I'd like to see video of what he looks like against better competition.

     

    My ideal offseason - 

    FA - Sign Talib, Bowe, Starks, Vollmer, Edelman, Woodhead, depth on OL

    Draft - 1st Rhodes, 2nd Hunt (Starks makes Williams and Jenkins redundant), 3rd Wheaton/Swope (depending on bowl), trade into 5th Tyrann Mathieu (hedging CB bets)

    I'd be pretty happy with that offseason



    Multiple reports say that he had a very good day 1.  Showed very well in zone, was quick and instinctive.

     
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    Does anyone think BB will double dip like he did with TEs and RBs?  I think he might if he can trade back and accumulate more picks.




    For which position?

     
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    Nice list PatsEng. Question, if you don't land an FA DT, where do you get one? Hunt I like, but is he a kid that can play inside next to vw and command doubles and penetrate?

    bowe would be interesting here. I question his football smarts and ability to pick up the offense, but his skill and size is near perfect. 



    If they don't get a DT via FA then I'm targetting one in the first. Either Jenkins or Williams but they need someone next to Wilfork in a bad way. So either spend in FA or spend early in the Draft

     
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    Kansas St WR Chris Harper vs Baylor + West Virginia

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trVKhJt7MkM




    Positives:

    • Good size
    • Catches the ball well / hands catcher
    • Has some RAC ability

    Negatives:

    • Doesn't seperate
    • Looks like a 4.6 kid
    • Put the ball on the ground twice

    Projection:

    Poor man's Anquan Boldin.  Looks like a possession type kid at the NFL level, that can help move the chains and also provides value in the red zone as you saw in this tape with his ability shield defenders with this size. Mid-Late Day 3 kid.

     
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    Mb or whoever,

    What is the deal with Kenneth Tate, LB Maryland?  Remember a couple of years ago when he was a S a lot of us thought top 10 pick.  Then he transitioned to OLB.  He's listed at 6-4, 220.  I remember some vicious hits he got on the QB on safety blitzes.  Might he be able to switch back to strong safety or play nickel LB?  Right now it's 50/50 if this kid even gets drafted.




    I do remember discussing him... a lot depends on his speed, but intriguing size for that S/LB hybrid type.  Agree that he's prob late round at best.

     
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    Nice list PatsEng. Question, if you don't land an FA DT, where do you get one? Hunt I like, but is he a kid that can play inside next to vw and command doubles and penetrate?

    bowe would be interesting here. I question his football smarts and ability to pick up the offense, but his skill and size is near perfect. 

     



    If they don't get a DT via FA then I'm targetting one in the first. Either Jenkins or Williams but they need someone next to Wilfork in a bad way. So either spend in FA or spend early in the Draft

     




    I'd even toss WR DeAndre Hopkins into the late Rd 1 discussion or even as an option early in Rd 2 if they trade back.... same with DT Sylvester Williams.

     
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    Nice list PatsEng. Question, if you don't land an FA DT, where do you get one? Hunt I like, but is he a kid that can play inside next to vw and command doubles and penetrate?

    bowe would be interesting here. I question his football smarts and ability to pick up the offense, but his skill and size is near perfect. 

     



    If they don't get a DT via FA then I'm targetting one in the first. Either Jenkins or Williams but they need someone next to Wilfork in a bad way. So either spend in FA or spend early in the Draft

     

     




     

    I'd even toss WR DeAndre Hopkins into the late Rd 1 discussion or even as an option early in Rd 2 if they trade back.... same with DT Sylvester Williams.



    Truthfully MB I don't even want to touch the WR position in the 1st. I don't think that will give the biggest bang for the buck. You saw the impact of Talib on the game andwe all see the difference when the DL gets pressure on opposing QB's but I'm not confident a WR will bring that large of an effect to the O overall. I'm looking closer to FA or the 2nd-3rd range for a WR. Heck there is a 1st round talent who could drop to the 3rd because of BB's favorite off field issue (drugs) in Rogers

     
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    First order of the off season is to re-sign own FA's,then work on the positions needing repairs,then comes the draft which is where BB has to take a DB,IDL,and a receiver whose over 6'2" tall and able too make catches in the clutch! Welker can come back but not at 9.5 mil! Maybe 3 mil per over 4yrs.

     
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    First order of the off season is to re-sign own FA's,then work on the positions needing repairs,then comes the draft which is where BB has to take a DB,IDL,and a receiver whose over 6'2" tall and able too make catches in the clutch! Welker can come back but not at 9.5 mil! Maybe 3 mil per over 4yrs.



    ok, we have the order straight but which FA's do you want to resign? Which players or positions do you want to target in FA? Which players are you looking at for the draft? Need a little more out of you sports before we can have a discussion otherwise yes I agree that's the order

     
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    Does anyone think BB will double dip like he did with TEs and RBs?  I think he might if he can trade back and accumulate more picks.

     




    For which position?

     



    Sorry, MB   I was thinking WR.  He surprised us in the past with TEs and RBs.  Why not?  2nd and 7th or trade back. I think this only happens if Welker is not back.

     
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    Nice list PatsEng. Question, if you don't land an FA DT, where do you get one? Hunt I like, but is he a kid that can play inside next to vw and command doubles and penetrate?

    bowe would be interesting here. I question his football smarts and ability to pick up the offense, but his skill and size is near perfect. 

     



    If they don't get a DT via FA then I'm targetting one in the first. Either Jenkins or Williams but they need someone next to Wilfork in a bad way. So either spend in FA or spend early in the Draft

     



    I think DT and CB are the two most pressing needs.

    I don't know if you noticed in the 4th, VW was not getting any push anymore. I don't know if they were getting gassed. Probably the latter, because they would pull him out. Making things worse, I think Deaderick was trying to push the VW's double team to the side, but he was so ineffective, he just crowded VW. Making things even worse, when VW is not in, Ravens just pounded the ball inside and it was a sure 4-6 yards for them. 

    First, they need a pass-rushing 300+ lb DT. Watt is the idealized version of this. Someone who is 2/3 as good would really be an upgrade over Deaderick. I don't get why people say this guy's improving. 

    On CB, I am hoping they get a pretty good one who's not as fragile as Dowling. Ideally someone 6' +. If they're going tog et someone samller, he;d better have the mental toughness of Dennard at least.

     

     
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    Does anyone think BB will double dip like he did with TEs and RBs?  I think he might if he can trade back and accumulate more picks.

     




    For which position?

     

     



    Sorry, MB   I was thinking WR.  He surprised us in the past with TEs and RBs.  Why not?  2nd and 7th or trade back. I think this only happens if Welker is not back.

     



    I hate the notion of doubling down on O though. We've gone O crazy since the SB D's starting to retire and it has gotten us nothing. I think this D is close, real close to being like it was pre-07' and are just a couple pieces away. If we were to double down I'd like to double down on the DL or with the CB's. Frankly I think a combo of Rhodes, McFadden/Mathieu or a combo of Jenkins/S. Williams, Hunt/Sutton would have a greater impact then adding two WRs

     
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    Multiple reports say that he had a very good day 1.  Showed very well in zone, was quick and instinctive.

     



    Good, I think this kid has the potential to be a steal in the second, of course if his stock doesn't rocket skyward first

     
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    I was just going through my old notes and came across a name I circled but never really followed. A guy by the name Daniel McCullers out of Tenn. He's a 6'8" 360lb DT which average speed for his size. I notice I put down raw as a note. Given his size that's a lot of man, did anyone keep tabs on him to see if he improved through the year?

     
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    Does anyone think BB will double dip like he did with TEs and RBs?  I think he might if he can trade back and accumulate more picks.

     




    For which position?

     

     



    Sorry, MB   I was thinking WR.  He surprised us in the past with TEs and RBs.  Why not?  2nd and 7th or trade back. I think this only happens if Welker is not back.

     

     



    I hate the notion of doubling down on O though. We've gone O crazy since the SB D's starting to retire and it has gotten us nothing. I think this D is close, real close to being like it was pre-07' and are just a couple pieces away. If we were to double down I'd like to double down on the DL or with the CB's. Frankly I think a combo of Rhodes, McFadden/Mathieu or a combo of Jenkins/S. Williams, Hunt/Sutton would have a greater impact then adding two WRs

     



    I like it.  I wondering if BB would trade back to do this though.  I see the the same level talent in the 2nd and third.

     
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