Re: ***2013 Patriots Draft Thread V2***
posted at 2/12/2013 12:16 PM EST
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Interesting mock draft from Daniel Jeremiah on NFL.com
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2013/mock-drafts/daniel-jeremiah/165100
Has Hankins falling all the way to us. Now I think this guy has smoked way to much to think Hankins falling to #29 is it even possible? If so would you even entertain offers for the pick or be breaking arms of anyone in the way to turn in the pick the moment #28 is chosen?
Myself, there would be many broken arms. I'd rather have Richardson as I think he'd fill the need better (interior rusher) but Hankins would be a nice addition more so then the other DT's we've been discussing (Jenkins, Floyd, both Williams, Short)
Certainly not a guarantee that he'd be there, but I do think it's possible.
I agree that it would be pretty tough to pass on him if he's available and you know BB will get the inside scoop from Urban/Vrabel.
Jeremiah is actually a pretty well respected guy in the media circles. Spent years as a scout for CLE, PHI and BAL. This is his first year at NFLN. He has a refreshing view on players. His mock is also indicative of his own evaluations and what he hears from the league, so while it might not be in line with other mocks at this point, it is pretty unfair to say it isn't possible that Hankins won't fall to 29. Is it likely? No. But definitely possible, in a deep DL draft, and if things fall right on draft day.
Though I inferred I don't think it was possible there still is the possibility which is why I asked the question. I didn't know Jeremiah was a former scout but I'd like to hear why he think Hankins would drop so much. From everything I hear he's one of the top 3 DT's in the draft and a clear teir above S Williams and Short who he has going before Hankins. Like I said I'd love for it to happen I just don't see it happening unless he completely blows it at the combine or pro-day
I see where you are coming from. I don't think Hankins will fall at this point either, but I think it is pretty interesting considering he is a former scout and bases his evaluations off what he hears from the league + what he sees himself on tape.
I believe it boils down to the mocker's perception of the type of DT that each team is seeking.
My opinion based purely on my observations from watching 2 OSU games, 2 Purdue games, 1 FLA game and 1 mizzou + Senior Bowl: Hankins is big and strong but I find his style a bit on the sluggish side as opposed to the more explosive. He may be capable of explosivenes, but in the games I saw, I thought his natural tendency was to be that way. Could well be a function of where he's asked to line up or what he's asked to do (more classic NT vs DT). Short, Richardson, Floyd, on the other hand, all showed explosive ability to shoot through to the backfield. You can argue that every one has questions about consistency achieving that but you can tell that these three are more wired to make their way through.
Perhaps this Jeremiah guy thinks the teams looking for interior men are looking for the shooting type more than the anchor type (If that's the case, I like that he's making a distinction. Sometimes I think most people just look at interior men the same way).
Peronally, I want the Pats to get the type who can do both well (like Ngata, when playing alongside another big body, or even VW as he's shown once in a while), but Star is the only one I see to be that. It's possible that Jenkins can be that. He's big enough and shows every now and then to have the motor to shoot through. I am am also curious to see if B Williams can develop into that (very hard to evaluate becasue ow where he played, but seems to have the leg quickness and power; If he got a combine invite, he could be this year's Poe).
BTW, Rang at CBSsports thinks Star does not get picked until NYJ. I would not like that.
