Re: ***2013 Patriots Draft Thread V2***
posted at 2/16/2013 4:37 AM EST
In response to PatsLifer's comment:
I have seen various posters list positions of need as S, DT, WR, CB. Some also mentioned DE.
No particular order above. In terms of FA, I think if you agree with the above positions of need, need to ask, what positions have the best FA's depth wise and which (ranked) typically get paid the highest? I would do the same exercise with the draft in terms of depth through round 3 specifically.
seems like good depth at DT, WR and cb in this draft. There are a few good safeties, but I think the quality drops off considerably after round 2. Honestly, if we are looking for a starting safety, Matt Elam is the only kid I am looking at. If for depth, there are others. It will depend a ton on tavon Wilson...can he be a starter or more like a situational player?
There are some good safeties available in FA, but will be costly. Same with DT like Melton and Starks. Cb as well. WR there are a few, but some we can pickup t reasonable cost like amendola or hartLine. Are they fits? Yes, but not elite if this is what we are looking for.
Personally, if we let welker walk, I think we have to replace him with a vet. I am not confident in bb drafting here, nor the offensive learning curve For our systeM. On the DT position, I think we can draft here given the depth and draft someone who can compliment vw at a cheap price. At CB, Talib is going to cost . given his injuries, and question marks, I may not decide to pay him. However, given we have a young secondaey, are we forced to sign him for continuity purposes? If we don't sign him, I would,look to grab a cb high in this draft. If we go this route, I am paying for a certain safety and getting the best one out there.
so, in summary, how it pertains to FA and the draft...
1. Round 1...drafting Hankins, Richardson, jemkins at DT if available, if not, grabbing Rhodes at cb
2. Round 2... If Rhodes drafted round 1, I grab kawaan short, floyd or Bennie logan...If not drafted, imam grabbing poyer, Trufant at cb.
3. Signing gholdson or Byrd to play safety. Delmas or Moore alternative.
4. Signing another WR If welker walks. Don't know who yet...maybe hartline, Bowe, jennings
5. Drafting WR in round 3...Swope, da'rick Rogers, others...depth and development, contributes some in year 1, but we are signing another WR in FA...
i share a lot in common with your thoughts and tryin gto rememebr who it was recently who suggested we needed dt most in offseaosn.
will try to respond to both here.
this defense even with good cbs is going to have problems winning a championship when we cannot conssitenly pressure the passer (in fact cant pressure the passer at all against a team liek balt).
after keeping talib,
pass rusher is the single most important need. a 2 gapper, even a great one isnt going to help jones or nink beat single teams (though jones is held a ton). gotta have pressure on qb not just a push back or hold / occupoy a couple guys.
on this note, bbs scheme i believe needs to change to catch up wotih the nfl. todasy need more peneatration, gettign up field.
without a consistent pass rush, i say fagetaboudit.
so # 1 i get the best rusherin fa i can with money available (freeney?)
this frees us up to go cb and wr in rd 1 and 2. necessary in order to get the studs we need. esp bb
who is notorious for missing at cb and wr.
i believe i was the first on on the board in speaking up for rhodes
if hes there, i get him (if rhodes gone im open to switching wr and cb order depending on whos there, and who we can get). if rhodes witin a few, im open to using 2014 to move up.
and look at best wr avail in rd 2 (not afraid to trade up for my guy with 2104 picks).
preferably 6 2" 210 and up (with the speed and hands).
ideally we need a player like boldin and outside big man, but at least in draft we can get teh big man.
in rd 3, we have a list of needs and depending what we do in fa re our guys and other fa's we draft
o line, safety, dt, cover lb.
one of top pass rushers in draft drops near ie ansah, im for abandoning this and starting draft with that pick (even if moving up a bit)