***2013 Patriots Draft Thread V2***

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    I have seen various posters list positions of need as S, DT, WR, CB. Some also mentioned DE. 

    No particular order above. In terms of FA, I think if you agree with the above positions of need, need to ask, what positions have the best FA's depth wise and which (ranked) typically get paid the highest? I would do the same exercise with the draft in terms of depth through round 3 specifically. 

    seems like good depth at DT, WR and cb in this draft. There are a few good safeties, but I think the quality drops off considerably after round 2. Honestly, if we are looking for a starting safety, Matt Elam is the only kid I am looking at. If for depth, there are others. It will depend a ton on tavon Wilson...can he be a starter or more like a situational player? 

    There are some good safeties available in FA, but will be costly. Same with DT like Melton and Starks. Cb as well. WR there are a few, but some we can pickup t reasonable cost like amendola or hartLine. Are they fits? Yes, but not elite if this is what we are looking for. 

    Personally, if we let welker walk, I think we have to replace him with a vet. I am not confident in bb drafting here, nor the offensive learning curve For our systeM. On the DT position, I think we can draft here given the depth and draft someone who can compliment vw at a cheap price. At CB, Talib is going to cost . given his injuries, and question marks, I may not decide to pay him. However, given we have a young secondaey, are we forced to sign him for continuity purposes? If we don't sign him, I would,look to grab a cb high in this draft. If we go this route, I am paying for a certain safety and getting the best one out there.

    so, in summary, how it pertains to FA and the draft...

    1. Round 1...drafting Hankins, Richardson, jemkins at DT if available, if not, grabbing Rhodes at cb

    2. Round 2... If Rhodes drafted round 1,  I grab kawaan short, floyd or Bennie logan...If not drafted, imam grabbing poyer, Trufant at cb.

    3. Signing gholdson or Byrd to play safety. Delmas or Moore alternative.

    4. Signing another WR If welker walks. Don't know who yet...maybe hartline, Bowe, jennings

    5. Drafting WR in round 3...Swope, da'rick Rogers, others...depth and development, contributes some in year 1, but we are signing another WR in FA...



     i share a lot in common with your thoughts and tryin gto rememebr who it was recently who suggested we needed dt most in offseaosn.

    will try to respond to both here.

    this defense even with good cbs is going to have problems winning a championship when we cannot conssitenly pressure the passer (in fact cant pressure the passer at all against a team liek balt).

    after keeping talib,

    pass rusher is the single most important need. a 2 gapper, even a great one isnt going to help jones or nink beat single teams (though jones is held a ton). gotta have pressure on qb not just a push back or hold / occupoy a couple guys.

    on this note, bbs scheme i believe needs to change to catch up wotih the nfl. todasy need more peneatration, gettign up field.

    without a consistent pass rush, i say fagetaboudit.

    so # 1 i get the best rusherin fa i can with money available (freeney?)

    this frees us up to go cb and wr in rd 1 and 2. necessary in order to get the studs we need. esp bb  

    who is notorious for missing at cb and wr.

     i believe i was the first on on the board in speaking up for rhodes

    if hes there, i get him (if rhodes gone im open to switching wr and cb order depending on whos there, and who we can get). if rhodes witin a few, im open to using 2014 to move up.

    and look at best wr avail in rd 2 (not afraid to trade up for my guy with 2104 picks).

    preferably 6 2" 210 and up (with the speed and hands).

    ideally we need a player like boldin and outside big man, but at least in draft we can get teh big man.

    in rd 3, we have a list of needs and depending what we do in fa re our guys and other fa's we draft

    o line, safety, dt, cover lb.

     

    one of top pass rushers in draft drops near ie ansah, im for abandoning this and starting draft with that pick (even if moving up a bit)

     
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    man i keep letting players go ive  picked early on, who fly forward in the draft and moving back in the draft to pick players who still may be availble (in the 100 top mocks), and each time teh players ive selected keep moving forward. (if this didnt represent nfl scouts big boards that woudl be awesome).

    for example, im seeing rhodes as far as 6th pick today and floyd 10 (even detone jones, okafor, and syl willimas) not everyone has this but the trend of rhodes and floyd from outside of rd to far up into rd 1 is a trend that has occured with too many of the players ive picked who originally were seen by many mocks to be selected much lower earlier on. frustrating.

     
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    interestignly rangs one of the few people i read to this day who does not have rhodes gone in rd 1 (while brugler has him at 13), and interestingly rang has jordan making it to 30 as well (brugler 15).......

     
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    The board seems to favor trading Mallett for a top 50 pick?  When originally drafted Mallett was presumably a first round talent with off-field issues and was considered a Patriot's steal.  Yes, he needed development but I've read very little about his progress. Does anyone have information about his development...as evidenced in practice (because he has seen little PT on the field)?

    The last information I read about Mallett (and it was dated information) was that his effectiveness in long passes was very good but he struggled with the intermediate passes, with recognition of defensive vulnerabilities, with his progression though 1st, 2nd, 3rd passing options etc.

    Wasn't Mallett the heir apparent to TB? Why the readiness to trade him for less than a first round pick?

     
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    The board seems to favor trading Moffitt for a top 50 pick?  When originally drafted Moffitt was presumably a first round talent with off-field issues and was considered a Patriot's steal.  Yes, he needed development but I've read very little about his progress. Does anyone have information about his development...as evidenced in practice (because he has seen little PT on the field)?

    The last information I read about Moffitt (and it was dated information) was that his effectiveness in long passes was very good but he struggled with the intermediate passes, with recognition of defensive vulnerabilities, with his progression though 1st, 2nd, 3rd passing options etc.

    Wasn't Moffitt the heir apparent to TB? Why the readiness to trade him for less than a first round pick?



    I'm assuming that you mean Mallett.  I don't think any of us really has any clue as to where he is at in his development.  The tools are clearly there, and he's been a model citizen since joining the Patriots, but he really is an unknown at this point.  I'm about 99% certain that he will remain in a Patriots jersey next season.  I really think that these Mallett trade rumors are pretty silly.  I think that if he really is developing and looking as good as we all hope that he is, then he will be worth more as a backup/successor than any draft pick compensation that we would receive for him this year.  Don't get your hopes up for Mallett to bring in any draft picks for us this year, IMO.

     
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    Random thought. This seems like a great year for BB to double up on talented WRs who may slide a bit due to position depth, similar to the Gronk/Hernandez double-up a few years ago.  If Welker walks (which I'm afraid he will) then we will have a huge need.  BB really needs to find a way to get a 4th or a 5th (or both) in this draft.

     
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    Random thought. This seems like a great year for BB to double up on talented WRs who may slide a bit due to position depth, similar to the Gronk/Hernandez double-up a few years ago.  If Welker walks (which I'm afraid he will) then we will have a huge need.  BB really needs to find a way to get a 4th or a 5th (or both) in this draft.

     




    Agreed, I think it depends on how FA goes.  DL is deep also.

     

     
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    Random thought. This seems like a great year for BB to double up on talented WRs who may slide a bit due to position depth, similar to the Gronk/Hernandez double-up a few years ago.  If Welker walks (which I'm afraid he will) then we will have a huge need.  BB really needs to find a way to get a 4th or a 5th (or both) in this draft.

     




    I too do not expect WW to be back, so I think multiple WR's could be a possibility (hopefully one via draft and one via FA)... also expect BB to maneuver a bit to pickup additional pick(s) on Day 2 and/or Day 3.

     

    The FA WR that makes a ton of sense that no one really talks about is Rams WR Brandon Gibson, who'm McD should be very familiar with.  Turns 26 in August, decent size (6-0 205) and has a lot of what BB values in a WR, solid route runner, quick feet, good burst, hands catcher... he's not a burner, but provides some decent ability on the outside.  Interested to see what he could do with TB tossing him the football.  He's a FA and could be a most cap friendly option vs. the big name WR's like Bowe, Jennings and Wallace, etc.

     
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    Interesting thought mb. Gibson has been pretty productive in his short career. Decent size, but his speed is a concern for me. Saying he is not a burner is an understatement. Why would Philly decide to move him? I like him overall, but does he have too similar a skill set to Lloyd? Both outside wr's, both not fast, but both decent route runners and pass catchers. 

    I would be interested in what his potential cost might be as compared to Bowe? Any thoughts here? 

     
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    Interesting thought mb. Gibson has been pretty productive in his short career. Decent size, but his speed is a concern for me. Saying he is not a burner is an understatement. Why would Philly decide to move him? I like him overall, but does he have too similar a skill set to Lloyd? Both outside wr's, both not fast, but both decent route runners and pass catchers. 

    I would be interested in what his potential cost might be as compared to Bowe? Any thoughts here? 



    I'm sure STL will be interested in re-signing him, but he's not a Franchise worthy player and NE, IMO, would have to be a more desirable destination.

    Lloyd is prob a fair comparison... while a burner on the outside would be great, I'm still wondering who that player is and what he'd cost... Mike Wallace?  He's gonna get paid... same with Dwayne Bowe I think.  Don't get me wrong, I'd LOVE to have Dwayne Bowe, but I don't think they'll fork over the dollars to land him.

    The more cost effective way to land a deep threat would be to target one in the draft, IMO... though they're not exactly a dime a dozen.

     
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    interestignly rangs one of the few people i read to this day who does not have rhodes gone in rd 1 (while brugler has him at 13), and interestingly rang has jordan making it to 30 as well (brugler 15).......




    Rhodes will last until pick #25, where he'll be selected by Pete Carroll... the rich getting richer at CB, ha.

    No idea if that would actually happen, but that'd be some whacky size and ability at the CB position.

     
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    Good stuff MB. In additon to Gibson, two other under-the-radar type WR could be Louis Murphy (CAR), played for OAK previously and went to Florida so that connectio is there too. He is a bigger-bodied guy and a good athlete. Another could be Kevin Ogletree from DAL.

     

    I like the idea of double dipping on WR with a two-proned approch in FA and the Draft. This is a good year to do it too.

     
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    interestignly rangs one of the few people i read to this day who does not have rhodes gone in rd 1 (while brugler has him at 13), and interestingly rang has jordan making it to 30 as well (brugler 15).......

     




    Rhodes will last until pick #25, where he'll be selected by Pete Carroll... the rich getting richer at CB, ha.

     

    No idea if that would actually happen, but that'd be some whacky size and ability at the CB position.




    Rhodes in SEA would be pretty scary in the scheme they play. He has also been linked to JAC early in the 2nd round because of Gus Bradley (SEA DC last yr) going there as HC. I actually like Rhodes a lot for Pats to consider if he is there. Seems his stock is all over the place. Anywhere from Top 20 to early-mid 2nd round. Interesting player to watch though.

     
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    do u think Tavon Austin would be a good pick in the 29th?

     
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    Random thought. This seems like a great year for BB to double up on talented WRs who may slide a bit due to position depth, similar to the Gronk/Hernandez double-up a few years ago.  If Welker walks (which I'm afraid he will) then we will have a huge need.  BB really needs to find a way to get a 4th or a 5th (or both) in this draft.

     




    I too do not expect WW to be back, so I think multiple WR's could be a possibility (hopefully one via draft and one via FA)... also expect BB to maneuver a bit to pickup additional pick(s) on Day 2 and/or Day 3.

     

    The FA WR that makes a ton of sense that no one really talks about is Rams WR Brandon Gibson, who'm McD should be very familiar with.  Turns 26 in August, decent size (6-0 205) and has a lot of what BB values in a WR, solid route runner, quick feet, good burst, hands catcher... he's not a burner, but provides some decent ability on the outside.  Interested to see what he could do with TB tossing him the football.  He's a FA and could be a most cap friendly option vs. the big name WR's like Bowe, Jennings and Wallace, etc.



    What's up MB?  I commented on Gibson in your other thread, but I'll write about him here as well.  I would love to see BB grab him for a reasonable price tag.  I loved him at Washington State.  He was one of the best WRs I've seen come out of Pullman in quite a while.  He has had productive seasons the past couple of years in STL, but I think he's a player on the rise who is capable of bigger things.  He could provide great value vs the other FAs on the market (Bowe, etc).  Definitely a guy to keep an eye on. This would be a typical BB move.  Sign Gibson & draft a slot guy and we would be lookin' good even if Welker leaves.

     
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    do u think Tavon Austin would be a good pick in the 29th?



    I thought the same thing but it depends on welker and what they think of Edelman and demps. Demps to me is a wildcard. He could be a tavon Austin like player . Could we or should we have 2 of those? Both undersized but both lightening fast? 

    Also, I don't think Austin makes it to 29. One potential landing spot should be houston. They could really benefit from a kid like this and there were more than a few folks talking welker to houston. If I was houston I would rather have Austin than welker...cheaper, younger and they need to keep big contracts at a minimum so they can replace schyearning 2014.

     
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    That was replace schaub in 2014... Darn spell check

     
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    interestignly rangs one of the few people i read to this day who does not have rhodes gone in rd 1 (while brugler has him at 13), and interestingly rang has jordan making it to 30 as well (brugler 15).......

    while he is what they have drafted, i think they would utilize the pick on somehting they dont have very well covered. (it was not a funny thought though-would be depressing:)




    Rhodes will last until pick #25, where he'll be selected by Pete Carroll... the rich getting richer at CB, ha.

     

    No idea if that would actually happen, but that'd be some whacky size and ability at the CB position.




     
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    Good stuff MB. In additon to Gibson, two other under-the-radar type WR could be Louis Murphy (CAR), played for OAK previously and went to Florida so that connectio is there too. He is a bigger-bodied guy and a good athlete. Another could be Kevin Ogletree from DAL.

     

    I like the idea of double dipping on WR with a two-proned approch in FA and the Draft. This is a good year to do it too.



    agreed

     
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    interestignly rangs one of the few people i read to this day who does not have rhodes gone in rd 1 (while brugler has him at 13), and interestingly rang has jordan making it to 30 as well (brugler 15).......

     




    Rhodes will last until pick #25, where he'll be selected by Pete Carroll... the rich getting richer at CB, ha.

     

    No idea if that would actually happen, but that'd be some whacky size and ability at the CB position.

     




     

    Rhodes in SEA would be pretty scary in the scheme they play. He has also been linked to JAC early in the 2nd round because of Gus Bradley (SEA DC last yr) going there as HC. I actually like Rhodes a lot for Pats to consider if he is there. Seems his stock is all over the place. Anywhere from Top 20 to early-mid 2nd round. Interesting player to watch though.



    no way he makes it to mid rd 2. even if we have a pass rusher in fa, im not sure bb would take him in rd 1 (following my plan) even if he lsot talib. i would keep talib add rhodes, trade up if necesary adn get a pass legit rusher. the de would be legit.

    with a big outside wr who can separte (esp if jopsh learns how to mix teh run and pass and to keep the threat of using any weapon at any time, by keeping a back in the game and in teh backfiedl at the snap on the field), the offense becomes legit.

     
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    do u think Tavon Austin would be a good pick in the 29th?



    no.

    this team has been handled by good des in playoffs. 

    need big receivers. id trade havign welker for a woodsoon type and a smith type.

     
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    The board seems to favor trading Mallett for a top 50 pick?  When originally drafted Mallett was presumably a first round talent with off-field issues and was considered a Patriot's steal.  Yes, he needed development but I've read very little about his progress. Does anyone have information about his development...as evidenced in practice (because he has seen little PT on the field)?

    The last information I read about Mallett (and it was dated information) was that his effectiveness in long passes was very good but he struggled with the intermediate passes, with recognition of defensive vulnerabilities, with his progression though 1st, 2nd, 3rd passing options etc.

    Wasn't Mallett the heir apparent to TB? Why the readiness to trade him for less than a first round pick?

     



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    "with his progression though 1st, 2nd, 3rd passing options etc."

    and

    "Why the readiness to trade him for less than a first round pick?"

    because i dont think he can be a top qb. physiclaly hes got it. mentally the game has not slowed down for him like it does for good qbs.

    nor does he have that "it" energy for leading in face of adversity. now if you had tebows "it" leadership , mallets body and bradys brain, wed have and all pro. 

    seems theres better qbs in college: mccarron,  bridgewater, manziel, etc

     
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    Random thought. This seems like a great year for BB to double up on talented WRs who may slide a bit due to position depth, similar to the Gronk/Hernandez double-up a few years ago.  If Welker walks (which I'm afraid he will) then we will have a huge need.  BB really needs to find a way to get a 4th or a 5th (or both) in this draft.

     




    I too do not expect WW to be back, so I think multiple WR's could be a possibility (hopefully one via draft and one via FA)... also expect BB to maneuver a bit to pickup additional pick(s) on Day 2 and/or Day 3.

     

    The FA WR that makes a ton of sense that no one really talks about is Rams WR Brandon Gibson, who'm McD should be very familiar with.  Turns 26 in August, decent size (6-0 205) and has a lot of what BB values in a WR, solid route runner, quick feet, good burst, hands catcher... he's not a burner, but provides some decent ability on the outside.  Interested to see what he could do with TB tossing him the football.  He's a FA and could be a most cap friendly option vs. the big name WR's like Bowe, Jennings and Wallace, etc.

     



    What's up MB?  I commented on Gibson in your other thread, but I'll write about him here as well.  I would love to see BB grab him for a reasonable price tag.  I loved him at Washington State.  He was one of the best WRs I've seen come out of Pullman in quite a while.  He has had productive seasons the past couple of years in STL, but I think he's a player on the rise who is capable of bigger things.  He could provide great value vs the other FAs on the market (Bowe, etc).  Definitely a guy to keep an eye on. This would be a typical BB move.  Sign Gibson & draft a slot guy and we would be lookin' good even if Welker leaves.

     

     



    Hey man... Agreed, like it as a value/upside type pickup and while he has a similar skill set to Brandon Lloyd, he's 6 years younger, which I also like... maybe giving them the flexibility to move on from Lloyd if they wanted to.

    Agreed, sign Gibson, draft someone capable of playing the slot... though they may also like Edelman there... but draft a WR to develop either way.

     
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    Random thought. This seems like a great year for BB to double up on talented WRs who may slide a bit due to position depth, similar to the Gronk/Hernandez double-up a few years ago.  If Welker walks (which I'm afraid he will) then we will have a huge need.  BB really needs to find a way to get a 4th or a 5th (or both) in this draft.

     




    I too do not expect WW to be back, so I think multiple WR's could be a possibility (hopefully one via draft and one via FA)... also expect BB to maneuver a bit to pickup additional pick(s) on Day 2 and/or Day 3.

     

    The FA WR that makes a ton of sense that no one really talks about is Rams WR Brandon Gibson, who'm McD should be very familiar with.  Turns 26 in August, decent size (6-0 205) and has a lot of what BB values in a WR, solid route runner, quick feet, good burst, hands catcher... he's not a burner, but provides some decent ability on the outside.  Interested to see what he could do with TB tossing him the football.  He's a FA and could be a most cap friendly option vs. the big name WR's like Bowe, Jennings and Wallace, etc.

     



    What's up MB?  I commented on Gibson in your other thread, but I'll write about him here as well.  I would love to see BB grab him for a reasonable price tag.  I loved him at Washington State.  He was one of the best WRs I've seen come out of Pullman in quite a while.  He has had productive seasons the past couple of years in STL, but I think he's a player on the rise who is capable of bigger things.  He could provide great value vs the other FAs on the market (Bowe, etc).  Definitely a guy to keep an eye on. This would be a typical BB move.  Sign Gibson & draft a slot guy and we would be lookin' good even if Welker leaves.

     

     



    Hey man... Agreed, like it as a value/upside type pickup and while he has a similar skill set to Brandon Lloyd, he's 6 years younger, which I also like... maybe giving them the flexibility to move on from Lloyd if they wanted to.

    Agreed, sign Gibson, draft someone capable of playing the slot... though they may also like Edelman there... but draft a WR to develop either way.



    he probably doesnt dive on the ground after every catch like lloyd. so with the money differential thatd be a good switch.

    "but draft a WR to develop either way."

    ideally id like to get a big bodied possession guy like boldin and a big burner.

     
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    The board seems to favor trading Mallett for a top 50 pick?  When originally drafted Mallett was presumably a first round talent with off-field issues and was considered a Patriot's steal.  Yes, he needed development but I've read very little about his progress. Does anyone have information about his development...as evidenced in practice (because he has seen little PT on the field)?

    The last information I read about Mallett (and it was dated information) was that his effectiveness in long passes was very good but he struggled with the intermediate passes, with recognition of defensive vulnerabilities, with his progression though 1st, 2nd, 3rd passing options etc.

    Wasn't Mallett the heir apparent to TB? Why the readiness to trade him for less than a first round pick?

     



    re:

     

    "with his progression though 1st, 2nd, 3rd passing options etc."

    and

    "Why the readiness to trade him for less than a first round pick?"

    because i dont think he can be a top qb. physiclaly hes got it. mentally the game has not slowed down for him like it does for good qbs.

    nor does he have that "it" energy for leading in face of adversity. now if you had tebows "it" leadership , mallets body and bradys brain, wed have and all pro. 

    seems theres better qbs in college: mccarron,  bridgewater, manziel, etc



    I want McCarron... proven winner, good size/height, good arm, accurate, protects the football, smart, competitive... dates smokeshows... would fit right in down in Foxboro.

     
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