***2013 Patriots Draft Thread V2***

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    Wow, Tank Carradine at 6-4 276... I'm assuming he plays a bit lighter (may have put on a few since tearing his ACL, but with that size, athleticism and play speed, I'm liking this kid more and more... have moved him up to a Rd 1 option and have him as my #2 player... he could still represent a huge value for some team in Rd 2, but def a Rd 1 talent, IMO.

    My #1, Jesse Williams was as advertised as well, 6-3 323.

     



    As long as Tanks knee checked out or checks out I would not see how anyone would not take him long before the Pats pick.

    I thought he was better than some of the other tops names I've looked at.

    I know this is already obvious but I thought Fisher, Johnson, Schwenke and Cooper all showed in pajamas what they show on tape.

     
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    Wow, Tank Carradine at 6-4 276 (34.68 arms)... I'm assuming he plays a bit lighter (may have put on a few since tearing his ACL, but with that size, length, athleticism and play speed, I'm liking this kid more and more... have moved him up to a Rd 1 option and have him as my #2 player... he could still represent a huge value for some team in Rd 2, but def a Rd 1 talent, IMO.

    My #1, Jesse Williams was as advertised as well, 6-3 323.

     




    I think either would be excellent.  Carradine (1st), S/CB/WR (2nd) maybe Geathers in the 3rd.  There are some really huge-sized players in this draft

    Barnes - 369

    Jenkins- 359

    Geathers - 342

    B. Williams - 335

    M. Hughes -329

    J. Williams - 323

    Q Dial - 318

    A bunch of UDFAs also will be available

     

    Overall good depth for NE type players to select where they are positioned in the draft.

     

     
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    Wow, Tank Carradine at 6-4 276... I'm assuming he plays a bit lighter (may have put on a few since tearing his ACL, but with that size, athleticism and play speed, I'm liking this kid more and more... have moved him up to a Rd 1 option and have him as my #2 player... he could still represent a huge value for some team in Rd 2, but def a Rd 1 talent, IMO.

    My #1, Jesse Williams was as advertised as well, 6-3 323.

     

     



    As long as Tanks knee checked out or checks out I would not see how anyone would not take him long before the Pats pick.

     

    I thought he was better than some of the other tops names I've looked at.

    I know this is already obvious but I thought Fisher, Johnson, Schwenke and Cooper all showed in pajamas what they show on tape.




    I don't disagree on Carradine, kid has legit talent and at the very least provides a solid run defender on the edge.

    I only got a look at Cooper, but I agree, he looked the part, very good feet/movement ability.

     
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    I just gave Lemonier a good look... his speed and athleticism really pop on tape, kid can get up the field in a hurry, can really get on his man quick and bend off the edge and pressure from the outside... he players with a good motor and shows effort in pursuit, though he can overrun plays, fail to breakdown in space and is inconsistent in his burst off the snap... seems to give his best effort on 3rd down/passing situations (can be one of the last DL's to move).  While he has some bullrush ability, he's not a power player (IMO) and doesn't look like a kid who will consistently set the edge as a DE... in fact he was overwhelmed at the POA multiple times... def looks better suited to kick outside to LB with some looks as a 9 tech in rush packages.  Def looks at his best when asked to get up the field.

    His production in 2012 (5.5 sacks, which represented all of his TFL) really dropped off from the 9.5 sack / 13.5 TFL 2011 season.  IMO, he projects as a kid that teams could view as that Bruce Irvin type, 3rd down pass rush specialist early on because he has a lot of natural ability in that area.  Prob a Day 2 kid with Rd 1 upside, due to said potential off the edge.

     
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    A lot of the "experts" like NE to draft Tavon Austin with #29.  I typically don't agree with the consensus pick that the draft experts mock to NE in the first round, but the more I watch and read about Austin, the more I think that he could be the guy if he is still on the board.  Initially I didn't really love him simply because of his size (5'9" 175), but I really believe that he is the most dynamic player in the draft.  He just has a different skill-set than everyone else that sets him apart from the rest of the WRs, and I think he would make a great first round pick for NE.

     
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    Tavon looks good, but I don't think the Pats would take him in the 1st.

    We'll see tomorrow how fast he is. I'm thinking mid 4.4's or higher.

    Looks like a notch below Percy Harvin.

     
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    Re: ***2013 Patriots Draft Thread V2***

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    Wow, Tank Carradine at 6-4 276... I'm assuming he plays a bit lighter (may have put on a few since tearing his ACL, but with that size, athleticism and play speed, I'm liking this kid more and more... have moved him up to a Rd 1 option and have him as my #2 player... he could still represent a huge value for some team in Rd 2, but def a Rd 1 talent, IMO.

    My #1, Jesse Williams was as advertised as well, 6-3 323.

     

     



    As long as Tanks knee checked out or checks out I would not see how anyone would not take him long before the Pats pick.

     

    I thought he was better than some of the other tops names I've looked at.

    I know this is already obvious but I thought Fisher, Johnson, Schwenke and Cooper all showed in pajamas what they show on tape.

     



    "As long as Tanks knee checked out or checks out I would not see how anyone would not take him long before the Pats pick."

     

    my take too.

    edit, reading too fast.

    knee checks out he will stil drop i think , its an injury and will need to revcover.

    id consider him at 29. think he drops to rd 2 but not to bottom (if we dont pull trigger at 29)

     
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    Wow, Tank Carradine at 6-4 276... I'm assuming he plays a bit lighter (may have put on a few since tearing his ACL, but with that size, athleticism and play speed, I'm liking this kid more and more... have moved him up to a Rd 1 option and have him as my #2 player... he could still represent a huge value for some team in Rd 2, but def a Rd 1 talent, IMO.

    My #1, Jesse Williams was as advertised as well, 6-3 323.

     

     



    As long as Tanks knee checked out or checks out I would not see how anyone would not take him long before the Pats pick.

     

    I thought he was better than some of the other tops names I've looked at.

    I know this is already obvious but I thought Fisher, Johnson, Schwenke and Cooper all showed in pajamas what they show on tape.

     




    I don't disagree on Carradine, kid has legit talent and at the very least provides a solid run defender on the edge.

     

    I only got a look at Cooper, but I agree, he looked the part, very good feet/movement ability.

     



    i still take top pass rusher avail in rd 1 carradine (if knee perfect), ansah, jordan, jones.

     

    or in rd 2: carradine (if knee not perfect), hunt, taylor, okafor, etc .

     

    by the way, eifert quite the specimen, does bb go with his te addiction and have one or 2 of the tes  rush the passer on defense till one of the starters goes down :)

     
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    Doesn't Tank Carradine's short resume' concern anybody?  There has to be a reason why he wasn't a starter at the beginning of his senior year.

     
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    Doesn't Tank Carradine's short resume' concern anybody?  There has to be a reason why he wasn't a starter at the beginning of his senior year.




    I think it's a fair question... looks like he was a JUCO transfer that ended up playing behind (2) very good players (Werner/Jenkins- both potential Rd 1 kids coming into this season) his first year in Tallahassee, though he did have 5.5 sacks and 8 TFL as a rotational player... the early season injury to Jenkins this year gave him a shot to prove him self and he did, so I think he deserves credit for that.

     
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    A lot of the "experts" like NE to draft Tavon Austin with #29.  I typically don't agree with the consensus pick that the draft experts mock to NE in the first round, but the more I watch and read about Austin, the more I think that he could be the guy if he is still on the board.  Initially I didn't really love him simply because of his size (5'9" 175), but I really believe that he is the most dynamic player in the draft.  He just has a different skill-set than everyone else that sets him apart from the rest of the WRs, and I think he would make a great first round pick for NE.

     



    I'm still hoping that DeAndre Hopkins is the kid in Rd 1, if they target a WR... though Austin's an intriguing kid.

     
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    Austin's first 40 was an unofficial 4.25.

     
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    Tavon Austin 40 yard dash time 4.25 seconds

     
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    Austin's first 40 was an unofficial 4.25.



    oh sorry, I didn`t see your post MB

     
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    4.25 unofficial for Marquis Goodwin.

    4.38 unofficial for TCU's Josh Boyce (gonna have to give this kid a closer look) and VT's Corey Fuller.

     
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    Austin's first 40 was an unofficial 4.25.

     



    oh sorry, I didn`t see your post MB

     



    No prob, man.

     
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    4.50 unofficial for Hopkins.

     
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    Mathieu in at 5-8 3/4 - 186.

     
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    4.50 unofficial for Hopkins.



    what is his size?

     
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    Austin in with an unofficial 4.31 for his 2nd 40.

    Teammate Stedman Bailey in with a 4.57 and 4.50 unofficial.

     

     
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    4.50 unofficial for Hopkins.

     



    what is his size?

     



    6-1 214.

     
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    Tavarres King - 4.43

    Justin Hunter - 4.44

    Josh Boyce in with another 4.38, def giving this kid a look today.

     
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    4.50 unofficial for Hopkins.

     



    what is his size?

     

     



    6-1 214.

     



    Thank dude, he has a good size 

     
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    Corey Fuller in wit 4.38 and 4.37 unofficial.

     
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    Goodwin in with 4.25 and 4.29... kid can fly.

     
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