***2013 Patriots Draft Thread V2***

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    Updated mock draft from me:

    I'm making a couple of assumption here so bare with me:

    1. The Pats will trade Mallett and part of the compensation will be a 3rd at the minimum
    2. Other then maybe a pass rushing specialist and bringing back Vollmer they are essentially done in FA

    #29 - Jonathan Hankins DT Ohio - If Hankins is there he's the pick. He's a big strong presence next to Vince who is use to taking on dbl teams on every down. He can push the pocket and put pressure on QB's but is also extremely good in run defense. He'd make an excellent addition and a future Wilfork replacement

    alt - Jenkins/J. Williams DT - I'd take either honestly and both could be an option if Hankins doesn't make it to #29

    #59 - Da'Rick Rogers WR Tenn Tech - If they don't get more WR's via FA then Rogers makes a ton of sense. Top 20 talent in the back of the 2nd has #1 Z flanker upside with the combo of size, speed, hands, and route running ability. Best yet is he doesn't mind getting dirty by blocking or fighting for the ball. Provided his drug history is behind him then he should be the pick in the 2nd

    alt - Darius Slay CB - he could or couldn't be at the back of the 2nd but adds great depth

    3rd from Mallet trade - Markus Wheaton WR Oregon State - If Rogers is the first WR the Pats get Wheaton could be the secondary as they build outside the numbers WR's. Wheaton has explosive speed, is a Branch type route runner, and has reliable hands. He's essentially this years version of Torrey Smith. This would completely revamp  the O and dbl down on WR ensuring at least one will give some production in 13'

    alt - Will Davis CB - notice a trend yet? I'm focusing on dbling up either the CB position or the WR position because they are the thinnest right now and I do think BB will dbl up on one or the other and Davis is a good canidate that can play inside or out

    #91 - DJ Hayden CB U Hou - BB tends to take risks in the late 3rd-6th range on players who have fallen due to injury or drug related issues. Hayden falls over heart concerns but he's a top end CB. I've been unsure about him because of that heart condition but from recent reports he might be worth taking the risk. He's considered anywhere from a back end of the 2nd round to completely off draft boards prospect depending on how his medicals check out.

    alt -  Sanders via RFA - just as good of an option as any

    7th - Jeef Braun T West Virginia - A starter for one of the best O's in college with Smith as his QB Braun did an admerial job at T. He needs some work but with Scar I see Kaczur upside in the kid with the ability to play 4 positions on the OL. Worth investing into Braun as the ultimate swing man for a team that loves versitility

    7th - Jeff Tuel QB Washington State - They could bring in a vet the replace Mallett but they could also bring in this kid. If an injury didn't derail his 11' season he wouldn't have been platooned in 12' but it happened. This kid has the physical and mental tools to be a starting caliber QB in the Pro's but his stock will suffer because of the platoon and 11' injury. Seems like the low risk high reward QB's the Pats tend to look for and to develop. Similar to Cassel and Brady before him



    Hard not to like that and think you have made some correct assumptions and good estimations on where these kids will go. 

    In the end, I hope they do land sanders with one of their thirds and go into the season with he and Rogers. I feel better with another vet added here instead of 2 rooks and 2 vets, 1 of which has an injury history, the other not sure what we will get. 

    The mallet trade is key. Without it, bb mar forego round 1 all together and that could have a domino effect on the rest of your picks. 

     
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    I've gotta say, I am not happy with how our WR situation is shaping up.  Right now we have Amendola instead of Welker and Jones instead of Lloyd.  Both significant downgrades. We take two durable guys with better production and replace them with guys who have injury/health issues.  With our two less-than-durable TEs, I could see us in big trouble if these guys start to drop like flies.

    Now I'm hearing Edelman could go to San Fran.  That would not be good at all.

    Even if we got Sanders, we have not improved over last year's WR corpes.  The F/A class is getting thin at WR.  Heyward-Bay could be the best option left.  I think we have to draft one WR for sure.  If we don't get Sanders or add another quality F/A WR we need to draft 2 of them in the first 3 rounds. 

    This is looking like 2006 all over again.  Brady cannot be happy.

     



    i dont think its ideal. welker is a tank, virtually indescructable., a team first guy, i could see letting him go if we went and paid jennings 8 mil per year on a big contract. otherwise paying wes 2yrs -16 was a safeer way to go. amendola has more talent than wes probably and better hands, but its a gamblel that he stays healthy. he broke his chest open diving to the turf. we'll see.

     

    whether we had lloyd or jones, we are going to need a big outside wr.

    been saying for a few weeks, we shoudl get all our needs ie cb, pass rusher, o line, and if dt needed, in fa and take pass rusher and 2 big wrs in the draft (hopkins / rogers or similar)

    trade mallet, use 2014 picks, whatever.

    facuet i agree, wood, edelman, wlekr, lloyd were more reliable proven guys than what we have

    and too, i did want ot revamp the offense and nto have 6,000 passes for 4 yards and have a big reliable fast guy take 2 defenders with him on every play on the outside (not lloyd).

    so its a big risk. but there is a chance we can be better.

    there might have been a middle ground???

    bring abrahmam and grimes in, sanders im ehh. more proven than a rookie, but not the size i want in say a da rick rogers.

     



    If you gotta have size size size why not advocate engs guy Nelson and draft hunter. They both make Hopkins and Rogers seem small if the difference of a few inches matters that much.

     

     

     

     

    hi low,


    well cause obviously its not just size.

    re rogers try this:

    "Rogers is a virtual Julio Jones clone, exhibiting an exciting combination of size, strength and explosiveness." (draft scout)

    and due to his pot issue got kicked off tenesse and is projected to bew in 3rd rd.

    (and 6 3' 220 aint bad :)

    hunter could be a big player too.

    hopkins i think may be more likely a star and has more skils.

    (ps hunter is only 1 inch taller than rogers and 2 " taller than hopkins)

     



    Hi bred,

     

     

    I was just having a lil fun with you and that was my point. You saying ps this guy is only 1 inch or 2 inches taller does not matter, when comparing Hunter to Hopkins and Rogers. 

    (ps I was expecting and hoping for that response to illustrate the mindset)

    Its the same thing when I say to you or others that Hopkins or rodgers is only 1 or 2 inches taller than the 5'11 or 6' guys.

    1 -2 inches is 1-2 inches is my only point. Weather it is comparing from 5'11 to 6'1 or 6'1 to 6'3.

    As you mentioned, it's not all about size.

    I do like both Hopkins and Rodgers. Anyone seen any wonderlic scores this season or did they replace that test with something new? If so what was the name of the new test?

     



    seen and heard no scores yet. the difference low with a 6 2" or bigger receiver, esp with long arms, is that they have an advantage over most of the league's cbs who are not 6 2" to 6 5".

     

    vs a 5  8 to 5 10 or 11 receiver.

    further my desire for a big body, with speed shoulkd be obviouis whenyou consider how uncoverable gronk is or ifg you watch or play basketball (its much harder ot block out or to defend a bigger body form the ball, and easier for them to block you  (a cb) out.

     



    I hear. All things being equal, who wouldn't want the bigger.

     

    As with everything so many things to take into account besides height.

    Strength

    Arm length

    body control

    hand size (helps in cold weather)

    intelligence ( Imentioned elswhere that the yr McD took Thoomas and Decker they had the #1 and 2 wonderlic scores for WR's I believe)

    "willingness" to block

    Verticals (many times some of the 6'2 guys have low 30 verts and the 5'11 guys might have 40 inch verts)

    ..and probably others I am not thinking of.

    Also I know Boldin had an amazing post season but his regular season was far from amazing. 65 catches, 4 TD's, less than 1000 yards. That's basically what we got out of Lloyd.

     



    i agree with the list  you postedof qualities and I AM AND DO FACTOR ALL THOSE IN.

     

    and this year (and last) choosing wrs who have all of teh above AND  who are in the 6 2" or bigger range (ideally) and 210 or bigger ideally.

    see here:

     

    NFL Combine Live: Da’Rick Rogers Delivers Best Overall Performance Displaying Speed, Agility, Explosiveness

    Read more at: http://nesn.com/2013/02/nfl-combine-live-tavon-austin-among-prospects-to-watch-during-day-4-drills-2/

    40 inch vert

    9.5 inch hands

    6.71 cone

    4.06 shuttle

     

    and more than that, you can see his bidy control and abilty to snag in traffic on the field.

    hopkins ability is easily apparent as well. nunter somewhat so as well on the field with less polish at this  time, so a potential backup plan to rogers.

     

     



    I hear you Bred, no need to sell the player. I posted my list of guys a very long time ago. Rogers was one of the WR that I had in bold.

     

    I already knew about Rogers performance. I keep my own spreadsheet going back a number of years and quickly can see which plays each year perform in the top percentage historically of their positions as an "Athlete".

    I would like to hear MB's info on intelligence and leadership/character with regards to him. I am always to lazy to go dig that info up but MB does a good job with that.

     



    I've seen the word "enigma" thrown around with him... has the size/speed/skill to be a very good player, but can be inconsistent, have concentrations lapses and might have a bit of the diva mentality ("it's more about him on the field").  Overall, I think y'all have it nailed pretty good for the most part... def maturity/consistency concerns, but a lot of natural ability... seems like a well spoken kid for the most part.

     

     
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    hey MB there are sites mocking Robert Woods to be our 29th pick I don`t like these mocks, what do u think about it?

     
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    hey MB there are sites mocking Robert Woods to be our 29th pick I don`t like these mocks, what do u think about it?

     




    Too rich for my blood on Woods... would be happy to land him with their 2nd rounder, but not Rd 1.

     

     
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    hey MB there are sites mocking Robert Woods to be our 29th pick I don`t like these mocks, what do u think about it?

     




    Too rich for my blood on Woods.  Def Rd 2 type for me... would be happy to land him with their 2nd rounder, but not Rd 1.

     



    Yes, he isn`t a Rd 1 value

     
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    I hear you Bred, no need to sell the player. I posted my list of guys a very long time ago. Rogers was one of the WR that I had in bold.

     

    I already knew about Rogers performance. I keep my own spreadsheet going back a number of years and quickly can see which plays each year perform in the top percentage historically of their positions as an "Athlete".

    I would like to hear MB's info on intelligence and leadership/character with regards to him. I am always to lazy to go dig that info up but MB does a good job with that.

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    excuse me low, was just responding ot your words. was unaware of your deep involvement in the process.

    peace

     
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    hey MB there are sites mocking Robert Woods to be our 29th pick I don`t like these mocks, what do u think about it?

     




    Too rich for my blood on Woods... would be happy to land him with their 2nd rounder, but not Rd 1.

     



    my sentiments exactly. 

     
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    Below is what's running through my head, based on where NE's roster stands today:

     

    Rd 1:  DT Jesse Williams / DE/OLB Tank Carradine / WR DeAndre Hopkins / OT DJ Fluker

     

    Rd 2:  CB DJ Hayden / WR Stedman Bailey / CB Logan Ryan / CB Darius Slay

     

    Rd 3:  WR Ryan Swope / S DJ Swearinger / S Shamarko Thomas / DE/OLB Michael Buchanan

     

    Rd 7:  WR TJ Moe / RB Spencer Ware

     

    Rd 7:  S Cooper Taylor / DT Chris Jones

     

     
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    Below is what's running through my head, based on where NE's roster stands today:

     

    Rd 1:  DT Jesse Williams / DE/OLB Tank Carradine / WR DeAndre Hopkins / OT DJ Fluker

     

    Rd 2:  CB DJ Hayden / WR Stedman Bailey / CB Logan Ryan / CB Darius Slay

     

    Rd 3:  WR Ryan Swope / S DJ Swearinger / S Shamarko Thomas / DE/OLB Michael Buchanan

     

    Rd 7:  WR TJ Moe / RB Spencer Ware

     

    Rd 7:  S Cooper Taylor / DT Chris Jones

     



    we can use a good cb. rather do it in fa if we can. that and abraham.

    prefer my list of wrs.

     
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    Below is what's running through my head, based on where NE's roster stands today:

     

    Rd 1:  DT Jesse Williams / DE/OLB Tank Carradine / WR DeAndre Hopkins / OT DJ Fluker

     

    Rd 2:  CB DJ Hayden / WR Stedman Bailey / CB Logan Ryan / CB Darius Slay

     

    Rd 3:  WR Ryan Swope / S DJ Swearinger / S Shamarko Thomas / DE/OLB Michael Buchanan

     

    Rd 7:  WR TJ Moe / RB Spencer Ware

     

    Rd 7:  S Cooper Taylor / DT Chris Jones

     




    I really liked your second and third round projections, and would add to the third round Khaseem Greene a fast and a lb who can cover

     
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    Below is what's running through my head, based on where NE's roster stands today:

     

    Rd 1:  DT Jesse Williams / DE/OLB Tank Carradine / WR DeAndre Hopkins / OT DJ Fluker

     

    Rd 2:  CB DJ Hayden / WR Stedman Bailey / CB Logan Ryan / CB Darius Slay

     

    Rd 3:  WR Ryan Swope / S DJ Swearinger / S Shamarko Thomas / DE/OLB Michael Buchanan

     

    Rd 7:  WR TJ Moe / RB Spencer Ware

     

    Rd 7:  S Cooper Taylor / DT Chris Jones

     

     



    we can use a good cb. rather do it in fa if we can. that and abraham.

     

    prefer my list of wrs.



    what is your wr list?

     
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    Below is what's running through my head, based on where NE's roster stands today:

     

    Rd 1:  DT Jesse Williams / DE/OLB Tank Carradine / WR DeAndre Hopkins / OT DJ Fluker

     

    Rd 2:  CB DJ Hayden / WR Stedman Bailey / CB Logan Ryan / CB Darius Slay

     

    Rd 3:  WR Ryan Swope / S DJ Swearinger / S Shamarko Thomas / DE/OLB Michael Buchanan

     

    Rd 7:  WR TJ Moe / RB Spencer Ware

     

    Rd 7:  S Cooper Taylor / DT Chris Jones

     

     



    we can use a good cb. rather do it in fa if we can. that and abraham.

     

    prefer my list of wrs.

     



    what is your wr list?

     



    hey champ,

    posted here several times.

    potentially available from 29 on

    preferred-hopkins, hunter, preferred-rogers, alternate in order :woods, williams, dobson,. therreafter: patton,  wheaton, swope, harper

     
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    Below is what's running through my head, based on where NE's roster stands today:

     

    Rd 1:  DT Jesse Williams / DE/OLB Tank Carradine / WR DeAndre Hopkins / OT DJ Fluker

     

    Rd 2:  CB DJ Hayden / WR Stedman Bailey / CB Logan Ryan / CB Darius Slay

     

    Rd 3:  WR Ryan Swope / S DJ Swearinger / S Shamarko Thomas / DE/OLB Michael Buchanan

     

    Rd 7:  WR TJ Moe / RB Spencer Ware

     

    Rd 7:  S Cooper Taylor / DT Chris Jones

     

     




     

    I really liked your second and third round projections, and would add to the third round Khaseem Greene a fast and a lb who can cover




    I do like Kaseem, have him as a Rd 2 option on my "Big 53" board.

     
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    Below is what's running through my head, based on where NE's roster stands today:

     

    Rd 1:  DT Jesse Williams / DE/OLB Tank Carradine / WR DeAndre Hopkins / OT DJ Fluker

     

    Rd 2:  CB DJ Hayden / WR Stedman Bailey / CB Logan Ryan / CB Darius Slay

     

    Rd 3:  WR Ryan Swope / S DJ Swearinger / S Shamarko Thomas / DE/OLB Michael Buchanan

     

    Rd 7:  WR TJ Moe / RB Spencer Ware

     

    Rd 7:  S Cooper Taylor / DT Chris Jones

     

     



    we can use a good cb. rather do it in fa if we can. that and abraham.

     

    prefer my list of wrs.

     



    what is your wr list?

     

     



    hey champ,

     

    posted here several times.

    potentially available from 29 on

    preferred-hopkins, hunter, preferred-rogers, alternate in order :woods, williams, dobson,. therreafter: patton,  wheaton, swope, harper



    ok Bred, I think the best receiver in this list is Hopkins, but I`m almost sure he will be pick before the 29th,Hunter:I like this guy but he could be pick before the 29th too and I think Pats wouldn`t pick this guy in the 29th,but he is tall and fast what really concerns me is his lack of confidence, after an ACL tear.Rogers I didn`t see a lot of this kid I`ll take a look at some videos, he will be pick in the 2rd IMO.

    Talking about the other names...Woods he is a playmaker, very good in YAC, he isn`t one of the biggest and fastest guys out there but can be a good fit in second round, he isn`t a legit X receiver 

    Dobson:he is a legit X receiver, a tall guy and with an incredible ability of making dificult catches, but he isn`t a burner, could have problems creating separation,he is a third rounder

    Swope:He is amazing I really like this kid, but we have enough at Slot receivers, I don`t see Pats picking this guy

    I have to look at the other names bred, but I want to hear your thoughts

     
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    Below is what's running through my head, based on where NE's roster stands today:

     

    Rd 1:  DT Jesse Williams / DE/OLB Tank Carradine / WR DeAndre Hopkins / OT DJ Fluker

     

    Rd 2:  CB DJ Hayden / WR Stedman Bailey / CB Logan Ryan / CB Darius Slay

     

    Rd 3:  WR Ryan Swope / S DJ Swearinger / S Shamarko Thomas / DE/OLB Michael Buchanan

     

    Rd 7:  WR TJ Moe / RB Spencer Ware

     

    Rd 7:  S Cooper Taylor / DT Chris Jones

     

     




     

    I really liked your second and third round projections, and would add to the third round Khaseem Greene a fast and a lb who can cover

     




     

    I do like Kaseem, have him as a Rd 2 option on my "Big 53" board.



    I`ll take a look at this guy, talking about prospects,you the man MB

     
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    good likst but i'd take all of those safties off your draft board. there's no room for more safties on the team.

     




    I think it's a fair argument, though I don't think Steve Gregory is a lock for this team and Adrian is on the downside of his career... they could still use an influx of young, physical players on the back end of the D, which is why I dropped the "need" down to Rd 3 and beyond.

     

     
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    Below is what's running through my head, based on where NE's roster stands today:

     

    Rd 1:  DT Jesse Williams / DE/OLB Tank Carradine / WR DeAndre Hopkins / OT DJ Fluker

     

    Rd 2:  CB DJ Hayden / WR Stedman Bailey / CB Logan Ryan / CB Darius Slay

     

    Rd 3:  WR Ryan Swope / S DJ Swearinger / S Shamarko Thomas / DE/OLB Michael Buchanan

     

    Rd 7:  WR TJ Moe / RB Spencer Ware

     

    Rd 7:  S Cooper Taylor / DT Chris Jones

     

     




     

    I really liked your second and third round projections, and would add to the third round Khaseem Greene a fast and a lb who can cover

     




     

    I do like Kaseem, have him as a Rd 2 option on my "Big 53" board.

     



    I`ll take a look at this guy, talking about prospects,you the man MB

     



    Haha, thanks man, but I'm just some schmo that loves the draft.

     
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    good likst but i'd take all of those safties off your draft board. there's no room for more safties on the team.

     




    I think it's a fair argument, though I don't think Steve Gregory is a lock for this team and Adrian is on the downside of his career... they could still use an influx of you, physical players on the back end of the D, which is why I dropped the "need" down to Rd 3 and beyond.

     



    That is the whole point, even if you think you are set you may not be.  The trick is getting the best 53.  You find a safety that is a demon on STs.  I would get him because we don't want to be weak on STs.  This is an art not a science.

     
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    good likst but i'd take all of those safties off your draft board. there's no room for more safties on the team.




    Notice how Bedard states no safeties in FA but not in the Draft.  You never know.

    Greg A. Bedard @GregABedard

    Would guess they're done at S in free agency “@JHolbrook2134: how about them going after Kerry Rhodes?

     

     
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    Below is what's running through my head, based on where NE's roster stands today:

     

    Rd 1:  DT Jesse Williams / DE/OLB Tank Carradine / WR DeAndre Hopkins / OT DJ Fluker

     

    Rd 2:  CB DJ Hayden / WR Stedman Bailey / CB Logan Ryan / CB Darius Slay

     

    Rd 3:  WR Ryan Swope / S DJ Swearinger / S Shamarko Thomas / DE/OLB Michael Buchanan

     

    Rd 7:  WR TJ Moe / RB Spencer Ware

     

    Rd 7:  S Cooper Taylor / DT Chris Jones

     

     



    we can use a good cb. rather do it in fa if we can. that and abraham.

     

    prefer my list of wrs.

     



    what is your wr list?

     

     



    hey champ,

     

    posted here several times.

    potentially available from 29 on

    preferred-hopkins, hunter, preferred-rogers, alternate in order :woods, williams, dobson,. therreafter: patton,  wheaton, swope, harper

     



    ok Bred, I think the best receiver in this list is Hopkins, but I`m almost sure he will be pick before the 29th,Hunter:I like this guy but he could be pick before the 29th too and I think Pats wouldn`t pick this guy in the 29th,but he is tall and fast what really concerns me is his lack of confidence, after an ACL tear.Rogers I didn`t see a lot of this kid I`ll take a look at some videos, he will be pick in the 2rd IMO.

     

    Talking about the other names...Woods he is a playmaker, very good in YAC, he isn`t one of the biggest and fastest guys out there but can be a good fit in second round, he isn`t a legit X receiver 

    Dobson:he is a legit X receiver, a tall guy and with an incredible ability of making dificult catches, but he isn`t a burner, could have problems creating separation,he is a third rounder

    Swope:He is amazing I really like this kid, but we have enough at Slot receivers, I don`t see Pats picking this guy

    I have to look at the other names bred, but I want to hear your thoughts



    ok so you are up on a lot.

    id welcome rogers in 2nd.

    i dont thiknk hokins goes before 29. there are a lot of players in rd 1. are you remembering teams will reach for a qb in rd 1.

    with 14' picks and mallet pick, if we can do carradine, hopkins and rogers i'll like that much

     
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    In response to Godvernment's comment:

     

    good likst but i'd take all of those safties off your draft board. there's no room for more safties on the team.

     




    I think it's a fair argument, though I don't think Steve Gregory is a lock for this team and Adrian is on the downside of his career... they could still use an influx of young, physical players on the back end of the D, which is why I dropped the "need" down to Rd 3 and beyond.

     



    agreed, if we had a pick every round id go safety too.

     
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    Re: ***2013 Patriots Draft Thread V2***

    Pat Kirwan Mock, not sure he is there.  J. Williams still on the board.  Would like a heavier DT, though. I still think they try to trade back.

    29. New England Patriots
    (12-4) Kawann Short, DT, Purdue: Short is versatile and productive. The Patriots play more four-man fronts than in years past and need disruptive players besides Vince Wilfork. His play at the Senior Bowl helped his stock
     
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    Re: ***2013 Patriots Draft Thread V2***

    In response to jjdbrasil's comment:

    Pat Kirwan Mock, not sure he is there.  J. Williams still on the board.  Would like a heavier DT, though. I still think they try to trade back.

    29. New England Patriots
    (12-4) Kawann Short, DT, Purdue: Short is versatile and productive. The Patriots play more four-man fronts than in years past and need disruptive players besides Vince Wilfork. His play at the Senior Bowl helped his stock



    hey  jj any tweets today?

     
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    Re: ***2013 Patriots Draft Thread V2***

    DJ Hayden Pro Day

    The event was highlighted by the workout of defensive back D.J. Hayden who suffered a nearly fatal tear of thinferior vena cava, the large vein that carries blood from the lower half of the body back to the heart, in a practice collision on Nov. 6.

    Hayden led all participants in the 40-yard dash with a time of 4.33 before a slight tweak of a hamstring on his second attempt ended his workout. A member of the 2013 Conference USA first team, Hayden was invited to and attended the NFL Combine in Indianapolis where he was interviewed and medically evaluated by several teams, but did not work out.

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    Former UH cornerback DJ Hayden ran the 40-yard dash in 4.33 seconds on Monday's UH pro day.

    Hayden, who suffered a near fatal tear of the main vein to his heart in November, went through a series of drills before more than 25 NFL teams.

    He did not participate in the final portion after tweaking his left hamstring on his final 40-yard dash.

    Hayden has four private workouts scheduled and seven pre-draft visits currently scheduled, his agent Jeff Nalley said.

    Hayden attended the NFL scouting combine in February but did not work out there. He also skipped the bench press at pro day as his sternum continues to heal.

    "It's the most unique injury in the history of the draft," Packers senior executive Alonzo Highsmith said. "The only people that ever had it aren't alive and doctors have never seen it."

     
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