Re: ***2013 Patriots Draft Thread V2***
posted at 3/18/2013 6:41 PM EDT
In response to PATSchampsSB's comment:
In response to Godvernment's comment:
Round 1- WR Deandre Hopkins
Round 2- CB Robert Alford/DJ Hayden
Round 3- WR Chris Harper
Round 7- QB Nathan Stanley
Round 7- TE Justice Cunningham
DT?OL?
Re: ***2013 Patriots Draft Thread V2***
posted at 3/18/2013 6:42 PM EDT
In response to jjdbrasil's comment:
In response to Godvernment's comment:
Round 1- WR Deandre Hopkins
Round 2- CB Robert Alford/DJ Hayden
Round 3- WR Chris Harper
Round 7- QB Nathan Stanley
Round 7- TE Justice Cunningham/ WR TJ Moe
.......and here you go Ricky on Moe
T.J. Moe, WR (5-11 5/8, 206) — Moe ran an official 4.74 40 time at the combine, but did the 40 at his pro day in 4.60 and 4.62 seconds. He stood on the rest of his numbers from the combine. Moe has very good hands and reminds you a lot of Wes Welker.
Re: ***2013 Patriots Draft Thread V2***
posted at 3/18/2013 6:44 PM EDT
In response to Godvernment's comment:
In response to jjdbrasil's comment:
In response to Godvernment's comment:
Round 1- WR Deandre Hopkins
Round 2- CB Robert Alford/DJ Hayden
Round 3- WR Chris Harper
Round 7- QB Nathan Stanley
Round 7- TE Justice Cunningham/ WR TJ Moe
.......and here you go Ricky on Moe
T.J. Moe, WR (5-11 5/8, 206) — Moe ran an official 4.74 40 time at the combine, but did the 40 at his pro day in 4.60 and 4.62 seconds. He stood on the rest of his numbers from the combine. Moe has very good hands and reminds you a lot of Wes Welker.
like welker, his skill set is built for the slot.
Re: ***2013 Patriots Draft Thread V2***
posted at 3/18/2013 6:45 PM EDT
In response to Godvernment's comment:
In response to PATSchampsSB's comment:
In response to Godvernment's comment:
Round 1- WR Deandre Hopkins
Round 2- CB Robert Alford/DJ Hayden
Round 3- WR Chris Harper
Round 7- QB Nathan Stanley
Round 7- TE Justice Cunningham
DT?OL?
not as big of needs as WR and CB at the moment IMO. plus, i count Armstead as a draft pick. this is just based on the team i see right now. Talib is on a 1 year deal with no depth behind him and the receiving group has been depleted.
Re: ***2013 Patriots Draft Thread V2***
posted at 3/18/2013 7:19 PM EDT
In response to Godvernment's comment:
Round 1- WR Deandre Hopkins
Round 2- CB Robert Alford/DJ Hayden
Round 3- WR Chris Harper
Round 7- QB Nathan Stanley
Round 7- TE Justice Cunningham/ WR TJ Moe
though if rogers is there i swap him for harper
Re: ***2013 Patriots Draft Thread V2***
posted at 3/18/2013 7:20 PM EDT
In response to Godvernment's comment:
In response to PATSchampsSB's comment:
In response to Godvernment's comment:
Round 1- WR Deandre Hopkins
Round 2- CB Robert Alford/DJ Hayden
Round 3- WR Chris Harper
Round 7- QB Nathan Stanley
Round 7- TE Justice Cunningham
DT?OL?
not as big of needs as WR and CB at the moment IMO. plus, i count Armstead as a draft pick. this is just based on the team i see right now. Talib is on a 1 year deal with no depth behind him and the receiving group has been depleted.
why i wanted to add a guy like grimes (with talib) and tried to get more than 1 year from talib
Re: ***2013 Patriots Draft Thread V2***
posted at 3/18/2013 7:50 PM EDT
MB is right on a possible Safety in the draft. Gregory better show something or he might be gone.
If I remember right, Gregory got much more money last year than Wilson (3 for $5 mill)
Greg A. Bedard @GregABedard Camp will decide that between Tavon, Adrian and Gregory IMO RT @JavaleMcgee69: do u think he is opening day starter?
Re: ***2013 Patriots Draft Thread V2***
posted at 3/18/2013 8:09 PM EDT
In response to jjdbrasil's comment:
MB is right on a possible Safety in the draft. Gregory better show something or he might be gone.
If I remember right, Gregory got much more money last year than Wilson (3 for $5 mill)
Greg A. Bedard @GregABedard Camp will decide that between Tavon, Adrian and Gregory IMO RT @JavaleMcgee69: do u think he is opening day starter?
how much will NE save by cutting him?
Re: ***2013 Patriots Draft Thread V2***
posted at 3/18/2013 8:33 PM EDT
In response to Godvernment's comment:
In response to jjdbrasil's comment:
MB is right on a possible Safety in the draft. Gregory better show something or he might be gone.
If I remember right, Gregory got much more money last year than Wilson (3 for $5 mill)
Greg A. Bedard @GregABedard Camp will decide that between Tavon, Adrian and Gregory IMO RT @JavaleMcgee69: do u think he is opening day starter?
i don't see those comments as any indication gregory will be cut. he is talking about camp competition for the starting job and he is including gregory in that competition. the guy played over 90% of defensive snaps in his first season with the team. BB likes him.
how much will NE save by cutting him?
Re: ***2013 Patriots Draft Thread V2***
posted at 3/18/2013 8:39 PM EDT
In response to jjdbrasil's comment:
In response to Godvernment's comment:
In response to jjdbrasil's comment:
MB is right on a possible Safety in the draft. Gregory better show something or he might be gone.
If I remember right, Gregory got much more money last year than Wilson (3 for $5 mill)
Greg A. Bedard @GregABedard Camp will decide that between Tavon, Adrian and Gregory IMO RT @JavaleMcgee69: do u think he is opening day starter?
i don't see those comments as any indication gregory will be cut. he is talking about camp competition for the starting job and he is including gregory in that competition. the guy played over 90% of defensive snaps in his first season with the team. BB likes him.
how much will NE save by cutting him?
$486,668
Re: ***2013 Patriots Draft Thread V2***
posted at 3/18/2013 8:55 PM EDT
I would use Gregory in passing downs.
He's quicker/faster than either Wilson or Tavon/
Re: ***2013 Patriots Draft Thread V2***
posted at 3/18/2013 10:29 PM EDT
Hey MB pats had a private workout with Marquess Wilson, do u know something about this guy?
Re: ***2013 Patriots Draft Thread V2***
posted at 3/18/2013 10:36 PM EDT
In response to PATSchampsSB's comment:
Hey MB pats had a private workout with Marquess Wilson, do u know something about this guy?
He's one of PE's boys (believe Wazzu likes him too)... good size kid, quicker than fast (has the good triangle numbers)... productive during his time at WSU... but there are def maturity/character questions as he left the team claiming abuse by the coaching staff, so one has to wonder he he'll take to hard coaching... talented kid with Day 2 talent, but the quitting on the team thing bothers me, similar to Syracuse's Mike Williams a couple years ago.
Re: ***2013 Patriots Draft Thread V2***
posted at 3/18/2013 10:44 PM EDT
I'd have a hard time taking Wilson in the 3rd. Quitting on the team is a huge character issue. I do think some team, like the Niners with all their picks, could afford drafting him in the late 4th or in the 5th. I don't think he'll be a 7th or undrafted like some people hav suggested.
Re: ***2013 Patriots Draft Thread V2***
posted at 3/18/2013 10:45 PM EDT
In response to mbeaulieu07's comment:
In response to PATSchampsSB's comment:
Hey MB pats had a private workout with Marquess Wilson, do u know something about this guy?
He's one of PE's boys (believe Wazzu likes him too)... good size kid, quicker than fast (has the good triangle numbers)... productive during his time at WSU... but there are def maturity/character questions as he left the team claiming abuse by the coaching staff, so one has to wonder he he'll take to hard coaching... talented kid and someone that'd interest me in Rd 3.
Re: ***2013 Patriots Draft Thread V2***
posted at 3/18/2013 11:18 PM EDT
In response to PATSchampsSB's comment:
In response to mbeaulieu07's comment:
In response to PATSchampsSB's comment:
Hey MB pats had a private workout with Marquess Wilson, do u know something about this guy?
He's one of PE's boys (believe Wazzu likes him too)... good size kid, quicker than fast (has the good triangle numbers)... productive during his time at WSU... but there are def maturity/character questions as he left the team claiming abuse by the coaching staff, so one has to wonder he he'll take to hard coaching... talented kid and someone that'd interest me in Rd 3.
Thank you MB, I was looking at some videos, and this kid can get separation and can do some difficult catches, he appears to be good in YAC too, I liked what I saw
Re: ***2013 Patriots Draft Thread V2***
posted at 3/18/2013 11:43 PM EDT
I just looked at a mock draft and they had DE Bjoern Werner falling to #28. If he was there at 29 would you take him? I think i would but it would be hard letting Hopkins go. Werner can flat out play though.
Re: ***2013 Patriots Draft Thread V2***
posted at 3/18/2013 11:56 PM EDT
In response to APpats21's comment:
I just looked at a mock draft and they had DE Bjoern Werner falling to #28. If he was there at 29 would you take him? I think i would but it would be hard letting Hopkins go. Werner can flat out play though.
What mock draft has him going that low? Whichever one it is, I wouldn't pay much attention to it going forward. Werner is a pretty good player...he's got length, he's atletic, he's quick, gets around a corner. I don't think he makes it out of the top 15, and he probably won't last that long either. I heard Mayock say if you can get him in the 25 range it would be a steal, but he goes and praises him in the next breath.
Re: ***2013 Patriots Draft Thread V2***
posted at 3/19/2013 12:10 AM EDT
In response to mthurl's comment:
In response to APpats21's comment:
I just looked at a mock draft and they had DE Bjoern Werner falling to #28. If he was there at 29 would you take him? I think i would but it would be hard letting Hopkins go. Werner can flat out play though.
What mock draft has him going that low? Whichever one it is, I wouldn't pay much attention to it going forward. Werner is a pretty good player...he's got length, he's atletic, he's quick, gets around a corner. I don't think he makes it out of the top 15, and he probably won't last that long either. I heard Mayock say if you can get him in the 25 range it would be a steal, but he goes and praises him in the next breath.
Yeah i dont think itll happen but a guy can dream cant he? Haha
Re: ***2013 Patriots Draft Thread V2***
posted at 3/19/2013 2:07 AM EDT
In response to pats-fan-2007's comment:
I would use Gregory in passing downs.
He's quicker/faster than either Wilson or Tavon/
Re: ***2013 Patriots Draft Thread V2***
posted at 3/19/2013 2:09 AM EDT
In response to mthurl's comment:
In response to APpats21's comment:
I just looked at a mock draft and they had DE Bjoern Werner falling to #28. If he was there at 29 would you take him? I think i would but it would be hard letting Hopkins go. Werner can flat out play though.
What mock draft has him going that low? Whichever one it is, I wouldn't pay much attention to it going forward. Werner is a pretty good player...he's got length, he's atletic, he's quick, gets around a corner. I don't think he makes it out of the top 15, and he probably won't last that long either. I heard Mayock say if you can get him in the 25 range it would be a steal, but he goes and praises him in the next breath.
werner has been a to 5 or so pick till now.
if he falls to 29 there wont be a pss rusher anywhere near hsi ability anywhere in sight.
no way he makes it but if he does, all bets are off on other players
no way i let him get to 28, take want pick you want in 2104.
Re: ***2013 Patriots Draft Thread V2***
posted at 3/19/2013 2:12 AM EDT
In response to pats-fan-2007's comment:
I would use Gregory in passing downs.
He's quicker/faster than either Wilson or Tavon/
Re: ***2013 Patriots Draft Thread V2***
posted at 3/19/2013 4:16 AM EDT
In response to bredbru's comment:
In response to pats-fan-2007's comment:
I would use Gregory in passing downs.
He's quicker/faster than either Wilson or Tavon/
aint saying too much there either
Re: ***2013 Patriots Draft Thread V2***
posted at 3/19/2013 7:57 AM EDT
Saw this on Nepatriotsdraft:
29. New England Patriots – DE Cornellius Carradine, Florida St.
Carradine’s height, bulk, and length should remind New England of Chandler Jones; their recent interest in free-agent pass rushers suggests they are seeking an upgrade over Rob Ninkovich.
59. New England Patriots – WR Quinton Patton, Louisiana Tech
91. New England – CB Blidi Wreh-Wilson, Connecticut
1st RD DE, Carradine
2nd RD CB, DJ Hayden
3rd RD WR, S.Bailey
or DT
Kwame Geathers
Bennie Logan
Jordan Hill
Montori Hughes
Re: ***2013 Patriots Draft Thread V2***
posted at 3/19/2013 8:02 AM EDT
In response to Godvernment's comment:
In response to PATSchampsSB's comment:
In response to Godvernment's comment:
Round 1- WR Deandre Hopkins
Round 2- CB Robert Alford/DJ Hayden
Round 3- WR Chris Harper
Round 7- QB Nathan Stanley
Round 7- TE Justice Cunningham
DT?OL?
not as big of needs as WR and CB at the moment IMO. plus, i count Armstead as a draft pick. this is just based on the team i see right now. Talib is on a 1 year deal with no depth behind him and the receiving group has been depleted.
Now I do believe they didn't feel he was ready and the CFL might have given them a little more confidence but I wouldn't count on him to be the same as a 1st, 2nd, or 3rd round pick at this point. I'm thinking Pryor replacement right now and hope he can provide more. I'd still target a starter as if Armstead was a high draft pick value more teams would have been bidding for his services out of the CFL and given the contract he got it doesn't look like many were
