***2013 Patriots Draft Thread V2***

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    I'm interested to see if BB will target Army QB Trent Steelman on Day 3-URFA as an Edelman type QB convert (same goes for Denard Robinson)... Both Steelman and Robinson are tough, productive kids that dont' have the skill set to remain as QB's at the NFL level, but have displayed the athleticism to potentially contribute on ST as they get more comfortable at WR.

    Robinson has gamebreaking speed and ability in the open field, while Steelman has demonstrated a ton of versatility and willingness to do whatever he can to help the team (believe he was long snapping at the shrine game?).

    You know BB loves these military kids, which is one of the big reasons that I've added Steelman as a late round option... his pro-day is Thursday.



    UPDATE:

    Looks like NE was supposed to be one of (4) teams with representation at Steelman's workout, though the NYJ appear to have the only identified representation... I'm sure they'll get a look at this kid at some point and should at the very least garner URFA interest if not Rd 7 interest.

    http://blogs.hudsonvalley.com/west-point-army-football/2013/03/20/trent-steelman-pro-day/

    "Nejmeh showed Steelman a couple of short routes he wanted him to run and said, “Perfect” after a couple of catches."

    "Steelman’s 40-yard dash unofficial time of 4.65 seconds wasn’t what he expected. But, one Army coach had Steelman running at 4.52 seconds and another clocked him at 4.47.

    Steelman owns some Army weight room records for quarterbacks and he didn’t disappoint lifting 225 pounds 16 times.

    Steelman looked ripped. He said he was down to 200 pounds, about 10 pounds less than his playing weight."

     

     
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    Steelman has some quick sure feet but somewhat stiffer hips. Nice hands it looks like. Catches the ball away from the body and gets his hands up quickly. What's his commitment to Army? Is he free to go or does he have a 3/5yr commitment?

     
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    Steelman has some quick sure feet but somewhat stiffer hips. Nice hands it looks like. Catches the ball away from the body and gets his hands up quickly. What's his commitment to Army? Is he free to go or does he have a 3/5yr commitment?

     



    Check out the link below:

     

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2012/12/07/army-navy-game-nfl-five-year-commitment-relief/1747399/

    Looks like there have some room to apply for early release after (2) years.

    Could certainly cause him to go undrafted.

     
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    QBs:  I think it is smart and good business to draft one.  Of course Mallett is NE's investment now.

    Pittsburg may go get one:

    http://steelblitz.com/pittsburgh-steelers-interest-in-tyler-bray-nothing-to-look-to-deep-into-or-is-it/2914/

     

    Does anyone thing with our 5 picks we draft a QB or is it UDFA ? or none ?

     
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    QBs:  I think it is smart and good business to draft one.  Of course Mallett is NE's investment now.

    Pittsburg may go get one:

    http://steelblitz.com/pittsburgh-steelers-interest-in-tyler-bray-nothing-to-look-to-deep-into-or-is-it/2914/

     

    Does anyone thing with our 5 picks we draft a QB or is it UDFA ? or none ?



    Personally I'm hoping they don't touch one with their Day 1 or 2 picks, but I could see maybe a Rd 7 kid like LTU's Colby Cameron.

     
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    QBs:  I think it is smart and good business to draft one.  Of course Mallett is NE's investment now.

    Pittsburg may go get one:

    http://steelblitz.com/pittsburgh-steelers-interest-in-tyler-bray-nothing-to-look-to-deep-into-or-is-it/2914/

     

    Does anyone thing with our 5 picks we draft a QB or is it UDFA ? or none ?



    I'm with MB on this one. Day 3 seems like a good spot to get one. I'm pretty high on Jeff Tuel Wasington St, who I believe the Pats checked out, and Nathan Stanley SE Louisiana 

     
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    Updated Big 53 Board... new addition in red:

     

    Rd 1

    DT- Jesse Williams

    DE/OLB- Tank Carradine

    OG- Jonathan Cooper

    CB- Xavier Rhodes

    DT- Sylvester Williams

    WR- DeAndre Hopkins

    WR- Keenan Allen

    WR- Tavon Austin

     OT DJ Fluker

    DT- John Hankins

     

    Rd 1-2

    S- Matt Elam

    S- Jon Cyprien

     

    Rd 2

    CB- DJ Hayden

    CB- Logan Ryan

    CB- Johnthan Banks

     CB- Jamar Taylor

     CB- Jordan Poyer

     DE/OLB- Margus Hunt

     WR- Quinton Patton

     DT- John Jenkins

     

    Rd 2-3

    WR- Stedman Bailey

    CB- Darius Slay

    WR- Ryan Swope

    WR- Da'Rick Rogers

    S- DJ Swearinger

     LB- Khaseem Greene

    DT- Kwame Geathers

    OL- Barrett Jones

    OL- Brian Winters

    OL- David Quessenberry

     

    Rd 3

    S- Shamarko Thomas

    WR- Markus Wheaton

    DE/OLB- Michael Buchanan

    C/OG- Brian Schwenke

    DE/OLB- Lavar Edwards

    CB- Tyrann Mathieu

    DE/OLB- Devin Taylor

     

    Rd 4-7

    WR/PR- Ace Sanders

    S- Cooper Taylor

    WR- Chris Harper

    WR- Josh Boyce

    S- Josh Evans

    OT- Reid Fragel

    S- Zeke Motta

    DE/OLB- Cornelius Washington

    OG- Jeff Baca

    OL- Tanner Hawkinson

    DL- Josh Boyd

    WR- TJ Moe

    RB- Spencer Ware

    DL- Chris Jones

    DL- Quinton Dial

    DL- Kapron Lewis-Moore

     

     
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    So, to sum it up, an extra pick is worth more to me this year than grabbing Jenkins or sWilliams at the end of round 2....based on the way things stand today.




    I doubt that either of those will be available at 59.

    Trading out is easier said than done. The only teams I can imagine trying to move up from early 2nd to late first are the ones concerned that another team beats them to a QB they want.

    Assuming PHI takes Geno. The teams that could remain QB-needy are...

    JAX - I don't think they will look for a QB. Between Henne and Gannert, they probably feel they can wait another year before jumping into the draft again for a QB

    ARI - Barring a trade happens elsewhere, has first dibs on any QB they want. They can stay where they are and feel comfortable that they will get their choice of QB

    CLE - Does not have a 2nd rnd

    NYJ - Probably won't be in a trade with NWE

    BUF - Probably won't e in a trade with NWE

    OAK - Does not have a 2nd

    Moreover, STL's and MIN's second first rounders are probably more attractive to anyone considering moving up to the first round.

    A trade could still happen, but perhaps for a 2013 third + 2014 first. Potential partners are CLE and OAK.

     
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    no love for marcus trufant, MB?



    Desmond? 

    Brother Marcus is also available via FA

     
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    no love for marcus trufant, MB?

     




    Guess I prefer Rhodes in the Rd 1 range.  Kid can cover and has some swagger, but I'm not too high on his ability vs the run, or at least from what I've seen on tape.  He doesn't shy away from contact, but he takes on ballcarriers a bit too high and I just think there are others that are better in this area.

     

    Would I be against drafting him?  Definitely not.

     
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    So, to sum it up, an extra pick is worth more to me this year than grabbing Jenkins or sWilliams at the end of round 2....based on the way things stand today.

     




     

    I doubt that either of those will be available at 59.

    Trading out is easier said than done. The only teams I can imagine trying to move up from early 2nd to late first are the ones concerned that another team beats them to a QB they want.

    Assuming PHI takes Geno. The teams that could remain QB-needy are...

    JAX - I don't think they will look for a QB. Between Henne and Gannert, they probably feel they can wait another year before jumping into the draft again for a QB

    ARI - Barring a trade happens elsewhere, has first dibs on any QB they want. They can stay where they are and feel comfortable that they will get their choice of QB

    CLE - Does not have a 2nd rnd

    NYJ - Probably won't be in a trade with NWE

    BUF - Probably won't e in a trade with NWE

    OAK - Does not have a 2nd

    Moreover, STL's and MIN's second first rounders are probably more attractive to anyone considering moving up to the first round.

    A trade could still happen, but perhaps for a 2013 third + 2014 first. Potential partners are CLE and OAK.



    Sorry...meant to say with first selection in round 2...the pick we acquire for trading our first. 

    Teams trade up all the time for non- qb's. heck, we did it twice last year. I could see a team do it for one of the dt's, Austin or if a de falls.

    depends what bb wants and is willing to take. At this point,mi would take a high second and a third or high fourth to do it , 

     
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    no love for marcus trufant, MB?

     




    Guess I prefer Rhodes in the Rd 1 range.  Kid can cover and has some swagger, but I'm not too high on his ability vs the run, or at least from what I've seen on tape.  He doesn't shy away from contact, but he takes on ballcarriers a bit too high and I just think there are others that are better in this area.

     

    Would I be against drafting him?  Definitely not.

     



    nooooowww your'ee on rhodes..........? :)

    didnt likey when i first brought the rhodes love?

     

     
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    no love for marcus trufant, MB?

     




    Guess I prefer Rhodes in the Rd 1 range.  Kid can cover and has some swagger, but I'm not too high on his ability vs the run, or at least from what I've seen on tape.  He doesn't shy away from contact, but he takes on ballcarriers a bit too high and I just think there are others that are better in this area.

     

    Would I be against drafting him?  Definitely not.

     



    nooooowww your'ee on rhodes..........? :)

    didnt likey when i first brought the rhodes love?

     




    Haha, I think you have the wrong guy... I don't ever remember being opposed to Rhodes... heck I don't remember anyone being opposed to Rhodes on here.

     
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    So, NE was at Florida States pro-day and a bigger note that McDaniels was there. Which O player could McDaniels be scouting? I'd imagine it's not OL because they'd be sending Scar. Reliford maybe as a UDFA? 

    Of course they could be scouting D players as they have Carradine, Werner, Jenkins, Rhodes but I have a feeling it's one of the smaller names we have seen yet and why send McDaniels to scout D?

    Another interesting to note was reports Rhodes was having issues with the wet field conditions. If he has issues with wet field conditions I'd hate to imagine what he'd do in NE's condition. That's a big red flag for me. That he could compensate for the adverse field conditions

     

    BTW came across this, a confirmed list of games the Pats visited:

    http://www.nepatriotsdraft.com/2013-nfl-draft-patriots-scouting-targets

     



    My guess is he was taking a look at the below:

     

    QB EJ Manuel (had this kid on my Big 53 Board for a short time, but he's getting talked up like a Top 50-64 kid, not sure BB is looking to go that high on a QB yet, but his big and skilled), WR Rodney Smith (this kid is 6-5 I believe, surprised Bred isn't on him yet, he loves him some tall WR's... could be a late round type kid with some upside), OT Menelik Watson (British, former basketball player with one year of D1 experience, heck I'm not sure he's played more than a year or two of football and some publications have him as a Rd 1 kid... though I think more Day 2).

     




    Mayock said teams are salivating over the chance to coach up Watson.  He said Watson showed amazing movement skills and while raw, could develop into a top OT in the league.  Given our situation with Vollmer, proved by the signing of Svitek and our reported interest in Winston, it's clear the Pats are interested in the OT position.  Watson is moving up board.  CBS has him at 63 right now.

     

    I could see us going WR, OT, WR with our top 3 picks.  Or DT, OT, WR.

     



    I keep hearing that they love Cannon and Svitek is more of a backup swing guy (one reason they wouldn't mind letting Vollmer leave). But, even if they do go OT in the draft I can't see them not taking a CB. There are too many reasons for them not to take one:

     

    • Talib is on a one year deal with no certainty he'll be back. Getting a young player who can develop over a year in a nickel position and take over next year makes sense (ala Solder with Light)
    • Arrington is almost purely an inside guy. Arrington has shown he can't handle outside duties on a regular basis so having him as the main outside backup right now would not make much sense
    • McCourty is a starting FS. I've heard the logic "you can always move McCourty back to CB" and while true McCourty is a much better FS than CB so you would essentially be weakening two positions because of lack of depth
    • Talib's never completed a full season. Going back to Arringtons not an outside guy point, Talib has yet to finish a 16 game season so at some point he's more then likely going to miss time. Right now if you keep Arrington on the inside that leaves Ras, Cole as the replacements?
    • Cole is a STer only. The few chances he had to play CB proved this point
    • Ras has less of a chance to complete a season then Talib does. Ras I wouldn't even consider a backup at this point because he's to unreliable to be a backup. If he can last more then 3/4 of a season that would be icing

    Right now as I see it we have Talib, Arrington, and Dennard. I don't even consider Ras and Cole as reliable CBs at this point. We need another CB and imo it would be best to grab a young CB with high upside in the draft and cross our fingers. 




    Svitek is nothing more than a warm body in training camp.  Odds are he doesn't make the team.  I agree Cannon seems to be liked at RT.  However, there is no back up at LT.  Svitek is not a legit backup.  So, we have no back up at LT if Vollmer leaves which is appearing more likely the longer this goes.

    I too would love to add a top CB in the draft.  If Trufant makes it to 29, he would certainly be a player of interest and could be our pick depending who else is there.  However, after Milliner, Rhodes and Trufant, I see a fairly big drop off in talent.  This isn't to say we couldn't target a Poyer, Slay or Alford type with our 2nd but let's say we go a completely different direction with 29.  Let's say we draft a DT for example.  Let's say Vollmer is gone.  Then when our 2nd round pick comes up and you have one of these 2nd tier corners on the board and Armstead, Long and/or Watson on the board, wouldn't you rather take a LT back up vs. a back up CB?  I would.


    I would rather move DMC back to corner back fill for him at FS then I would moving Mankins to LT if Solder gets hurt or putting a Svitek in there.  Keeping Brady upright is of utmost importance.  OL shuffle, especially at LT is more worrisome to me then DB suffle.

     
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    jj - I don't see Bolden making it through camp. After the suspension his performance decreased, his playing time took a major hit, and he just didn't look like the same runner to me (not the same burst or power). If PEDs were a reason for his performance early in the season and he no longer has them then they might be looking for a short yardage replacement. Though Rouse confuses me. He's to small to be a FB and to slow to be anything more then a 1-5yrd guy (think BJGE when he was here).

     




    He took Adderal. That isnt steriods. It wont affect him like that.

     



    that's what every player says includig Cunningham, Spikes, and Talib. What's with all these players taking ADHD medication? But it seems everytime a player tests positive it's because of Adderal, go figure. You would think with dozens of players a year all testing positive for the same ADHD drug over and over again they would check with their well paid team doctors if it's ok or call the free hotline and services the NFL has setup to check common medications used to treat things like ADHD.

    Since the NFL doesn't release what they actually tested positive for we won't actually ever know.  All I can go by is what the eye test says and the eye test says he lost that explosive step and couldn't shake that first hit like he did before he was caught 

     
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    Svitek is nothing more than a warm body in training camp.  Odds are he doesn't make the team.  I agree Cannon seems to be liked at RT.  However, there is no back up at LT.  Svitek is not a legit backup.  So, we have no back up at LT if Vollmer leaves which is appearing more likely the longer this goes.

     

    I too would love to add a top CB in the draft.  If Trufant makes it to 29, he would certainly be a player of interest and could be our pick depending who else is there.  However, after Milliner, Rhodes and Trufant, I see a fairly big drop off in talent.  This isn't to say we couldn't target a Poyer, Slay or Alford type with our 2nd but let's say we go a completely different direction with 29.  Let's say we draft a DT for example.  Let's say Vollmer is gone.  Then when our 2nd round pick comes up and you have one of these 2nd tier corners on the board and Armstead, Long and/or Watson on the board, wouldn't you rather take a LT back up vs. a back up CB?  I would.


    I would rather move DMC back to corner back fill for him at FS then I would moving Mankins to LT if Solder gets hurt or putting a Svitek in there.  Keeping Brady upright is of utmost importance.  OL shuffle, especially at LT is more worrisome to me then DB suffle.



    Not sure you are giving Svitek enough credit. He was a starting T for a playoff team before he was injured

     
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    jj - I don't see Bolden making it through camp. After the suspension his performance decreased, his playing time took a major hit, and he just didn't look like the same runner to me (not the same burst or power). If PEDs were a reason for his performance early in the season and he no longer has them then they might be looking for a short yardage replacement. Though Rouse confuses me. He's to small to be a FB and to slow to be anything more then a 1-5yrd guy (think BJGE when he was here).

     




    He took Adderal. That isnt steriods. It wont affect him like that.

     

     



    that's what every player says includig Cunningham, Spikes, and Talib. What's with all these players taking ADHD medication? But it seems everytime a player tests positive it's because of Adderal, go figure. You would think with dozens of players a year all testing positive for the same ADHD drug over and over again they would check with their well paid team doctors if it's ok or call the free hotline and services the NFL has setup to check common medications used to treat things like ADHD.

     

    Since the NFL doesn't release what they actually tested positive for we won't actually ever know.  All I can go by is what the eye test says and the eye test says he lost that explosive step and couldn't shake that first hit like he did before he was caught 


    Brandon Bolden is a fine back and prediction that you will see plenty of burst and yards from him this season - especially if Ridley keeps fumbling.

     
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    jj - I don't see Bolden making it through camp. After the suspension his performance decreased, his playing time took a major hit, and he just didn't look like the same runner to me (not the same burst or power). If PEDs were a reason for his performance early in the season and he no longer has them then they might be looking for a short yardage replacement. Though Rouse confuses me. He's to small to be a FB and to slow to be anything more then a 1-5yrd guy (think BJGE when he was here).

     




    He took Adderal. That isnt steriods. It wont affect him like that.

     

     



    that's what every player says includig Cunningham, Spikes, and Talib. What's with all these players taking ADHD medication? But it seems everytime a player tests positive it's because of Adderal, go figure. You would think with dozens of players a year all testing positive for the same ADHD drug over and over again they would check with their well paid team doctors if it's ok or call the free hotline and services the NFL has setup to check common medications used to treat things like ADHD.

     

    Since the NFL doesn't release what they actually tested positive for we won't actually ever know.  All I can go by is what the eye test says and the eye test says he lost that explosive step and couldn't shake that first hit like he did before he was caught 



    agreed we dont know. however adderal has a stimulant affect on many liek beeing hopped up on greenies or other, so it is possible many players are takng it for that affect. now if they lose 30 lbs too......

    by the way, ive posted several times over the years, anyone who has a "good" trainer or dr 

    skilled with the top ped's, will be able to assist their client in not getting detected unless they are careless. have had many friends ive spoken wiht on this, including a conversation i had a week or so ago with a top mma fighter.

     

     
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    jj - I don't see Bolden making it through camp. After the suspension his performance decreased, his playing time took a major hit, and he just didn't look like the same runner to me (not the same burst or power). If PEDs were a reason for his performance early in the season and he no longer has them then they might be looking for a short yardage replacement. Though Rouse confuses me. He's to small to be a FB and to slow to be anything more then a 1-5yrd guy (think BJGE when he was here).

     




    He took Adderal. That isnt steriods. It wont affect him like that.

     

     



    that's what every player says includig Cunningham, Spikes, and Talib. What's with all these players taking ADHD medication? But it seems everytime a player tests positive it's because of Adderal, go figure. You would think with dozens of players a year all testing positive for the same ADHD drug over and over again they would check with their well paid team doctors if it's ok or call the free hotline and services the NFL has setup to check common medications used to treat things like ADHD.

     

    Since the NFL doesn't release what they actually tested positive for we won't actually ever know.  All I can go by is what the eye test says and the eye test says he lost that explosive step and couldn't shake that first hit like he did before he was caught 

     


    Brandon Bolden is a fine back and prediction that you will see plenty of burst and yards from him this season - especially if Ridley keeps fumbling.

     



    i feel similarly minus the ridley fumbling part. liek the year before, bb jsu tneed sto use him adn use him (bolden) appropriately.

     
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    Svitek is nothing more than a warm body in training camp.  Odds are he doesn't make the team.  I agree Cannon seems to be liked at RT.  However, there is no back up at LT.  Svitek is not a legit backup.  So, we have no back up at LT if Vollmer leaves which is appearing more likely the longer this goes.

     

    I too would love to add a top CB in the draft.  If Trufant makes it to 29, he would certainly be a player of interest and could be our pick depending who else is there.  However, after Milliner, Rhodes and Trufant, I see a fairly big drop off in talent.  This isn't to say we couldn't target a Poyer, Slay or Alford type with our 2nd but let's say we go a completely different direction with 29.  Let's say we draft a DT for example.  Let's say Vollmer is gone.  Then when our 2nd round pick comes up and you have one of these 2nd tier corners on the board and Armstead, Long and/or Watson on the board, wouldn't you rather take a LT back up vs. a back up CB?  I would.


    I would rather move DMC back to corner back fill for him at FS then I would moving Mankins to LT if Solder gets hurt or putting a Svitek in there.  Keeping Brady upright is of utmost importance.  OL shuffle, especially at LT is more worrisome to me then DB suffle.

     



    Not sure you are giving Svitek enough credit. He was a starting T for a playoff team before he was injured

     



    agreed and moving dmc back to corner woudl be a disaster. id rather trade him than do that.

     
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    no love for marcus trufant, MB?

     




    Guess I prefer Rhodes in the Rd 1 range.  Kid can cover and has some swagger, but I'm not too high on his ability vs the run, or at least from what I've seen on tape.  He doesn't shy away from contact, but he takes on ballcarriers a bit too high and I just think there are others that are better in this area.

     

    Would I be against drafting him?  Definitely not.

     



    nooooowww your'ee on rhodes..........? :)

    didnt likey when i first brought the rhodes love?

     

     




     

    Haha, I think you have the wrong guy... I don't ever remember being opposed to Rhodes... heck I don't remember anyone being opposed to Rhodes on here.



    well, before i began talking him as a first round pat pick, no one was discussing him. 

    when i did, those that reponded were lukewarm at best.

    wish we could go back to thread like we used to (in a search. it would take much more effort to look than its worth wihtout that). a lot changes with time.

    eventually it becomes like a think tank and over time a group mind thing often comes about (like a group intelligence thinking in one brain). yes er still have differences in the end, but weve all been "shaped" or affected by one another. :)

     
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    Re: ***2013 Patriots Draft Thread V2***

    Recent trends-

    Moving up in most mock drafts-

    DE Dion Jordan

    DT Sharif Floyd 

    OT Lane Johnson

    DE Ezekiel Ansah

    OG Jonathan Cooper

     

    Moving down in most mocks-

    DT Star Lotulelei

    WR Keenan Allen

    DE Damontre Moore

    DT Johnathan Hankins

    The guys moving up will most likely be long gone before the Pats pick at #29, along with DT Lotulelei.  But WR Allen, DE Moore, and DT Hankins should be available.  Would the Pats be interested in picking any of these guys (who were once seen as top 20 prospects only 2 months ago)?

     
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    Re: ***2013 Patriots Draft Thread V2***

    In response to Army2LT's comment:

    Recent trends-

    Moving up in most mock drafts-

    DE Dion Jordan

    DT Sharif Floyd 

    OT Lane Johnson

    DE Ezekiel Ansah

    OG Jonathan Cooper

     

    Moving down in most mocks-

    DT Star Lotulelei

    WR Keenan Allen

    DE Damontre Moore

    DT Johnathan Hankins

    The guys moving up will most likely be long gone before the Pats pick at #29, along with DT Lotulelei.  But WR Allen, DE Moore, and DT Hankins should be available.  Would the Pats be interested in picking any of these guys (who were once seen as top 20 prospects only 2 months ago)?




    Star did really well at his Pro Day.  If he clears medically in April, he will be top 5-10 pick.

     

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