***2013 Patriots Draft Thread V2***

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    Since no one wants to go, I conducted a trade between TB and NYJ.

    TB receives- D. Revis

    NYJ Receives-TB 1st rounder, 2nd rounder in 2013

     
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    1. Kansas City- OT Eric Fisher- MB

     

    2. Jacksonville - DE Ezekiel Ansah - SeattlePat

     

    3. Oakland - DT Sharrif Floyd - PatsEng

     

    4.Philly-OTLuke JoeckelWazzu

     

    5.Detroit- CB Dee Milliner - MB

     

    6.Cleveland- OG Chance Warmack - Low

     

    7.Arizona- OT Lane Johnson -jjd

     

    8.Buffalo- QB Geno Smith - Champs

     

    9. NYJ-  DE  Dion Jordan      Wazzu

     

    10 Tennessee - DT Sheldon Richardson   SeattlePat

     

    11.  San Diego- OG Jonathan Cooper    jjd

     

    12. Miami- DE Bjoern Werner ArmyLT

     

    13.NYJ- DT Star Lotulelei - Low

     

    14.Carolina-

     

    15.New Orleans-

     

    16. St Louis-

     

    17.Pittsburgh-

     

    18.Dallas-

     

    19.NYG-

     

    20.Chicago-

     

    21.Cincy-

     

    22.St Louis (From Wash)-

     

    23.Minnesota-

     

    24.Indy-

     

    25.Minnesota (from SEA)-

     

    26.Green Bay-

     

    27.Houston-

     

    28. Denver-

     

    29.New England-

     

    30.Atlanta-

     

    31.San Francisco-

     

    32.Baltimore-



     
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    I hate to say it but the Jets D Line is much improved.

     
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    Hey Guys , what about Datone Jones in the first round?

     
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    Hey Guys , what about Datone Jones in the first round?

     



    hes a pass rsuh option i talked abtur about a month ago. potential

     

     
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    In response to Army2LT's comment:

    Since no one wants to go, I conducted a trade between TB and NYJ.

    TB receives- D. Revis

    NYJ Receives-TB 1st rounder, 2nd rounder in 2013



    an they pay the 12 mil cap hit for trading him?

     
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    I hate to say it but the Jets D Line is much improved.



    actually i really hope it dont go down like this. 

    dotn want werner, asah or jordan in our conference

     
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    1. Kansas City- OT Eric Fisher- MB

     

    2. Jacksonville - DE Ezekiel Ansah - SeattlePat

     

    3. Oakland - DT Sharrif Floyd - PatsEng

     

    4.Philly-OTLuke JoeckelWazzu

     

    5.Detroit- CB Dee Milliner - MB

     

    6.Cleveland- OG Chance Warmack - Low

     

    7.Arizona- OT Lane Johnson -jjd

     

    8.Buffalo- QB Geno Smith - Champs

     

    9. NYJ-  DE  Dion Jordan      Wazzu

     

    10 Tennessee - DT Sheldon Richardson   SeattlePat

     

    11.  San Diego- OG Jonathan Cooper    jjd

     

    12. Miami- DE Bjoern Werner ArmyLT

     

    13.NYJ- DT Star Lotulelei - Low

     

    14.Carolina- DT Jonathan Hankins

     

    15.New Orleans-

     

    16. St Louis-

     

    17.Pittsburgh-

     

    18.Dallas-

     

    19.NYG-

     

    20.Chicago-

     

    21.Cincy-

     

    22.St Louis (From Wash)-

     

    23.Minnesota-

     

    24.Indy-

     

    25.Minnesota (from SEA)-

     

    26.Green Bay-

     

    27.Houston-

     

    28. Denver-

     

    29.New England-

     

    30.Atlanta-

     

    31.San Francisco-

     

    32.Baltimore-

     

     
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    In response to bredbru's comment:

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    Hey Guys , what about Datone Jones in the first round?

     



    hes a pass rsuh option i talked abtur about a month ago. potential

     



    He is a versatile Defensive Lineman he can play DE and DT

     
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    In response to PATSchampsSB's comment:

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    In response to PATSchampsSB's comment:

     

    Hey Guys , what about Datone Jones in the first round?

     



    hes a pass rsuh option i talked abtur about a month ago. potential

     

     



    He is a versatile Defensive Lineman he can play DE and DT

     



    DT? In college, sure. Who was the last 275 lb guy who played DT in the NFL?

     
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    In response to PATSchampsSB's comment:

     

    Hey Guys , what about Datone Jones in the first round?

     



    hes a pass rsuh option i talked abtur about a month ago. potential

     

     



    He is a versatile Defensive Lineman he can play DE and DT

     

     



    DT? In college, sure. Who was the last 275 lb guy who played DT in the NFL?

     

     



    he can play DE on running downs and DT on passing downs.. similar to what we saw BB do with Jermaine Cunningham. 

     



    How did that work out?

     
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    Re: ***2013 Patriots Draft Thread V2***

    can football draft threaders appreciate our differences (different thoughts and opinons)   :)

     
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    Svitek is nothing more than a warm body in training camp.  Odds are he doesn't make the team.  I agree Cannon seems to be liked at RT.  However, there is no back up at LT.  Svitek is not a legit backup.  So, we have no back up at LT if Vollmer leaves which is appearing more likely the longer this goes.

     

    I too would love to add a top CB in the draft.  If Trufant makes it to 29, he would certainly be a player of interest and could be our pick depending who else is there.  However, after Milliner, Rhodes and Trufant, I see a fairly big drop off in talent.  This isn't to say we couldn't target a Poyer, Slay or Alford type with our 2nd but let's say we go a completely different direction with 29.  Let's say we draft a DT for example.  Let's say Vollmer is gone.  Then when our 2nd round pick comes up and you have one of these 2nd tier corners on the board and Armstead, Long and/or Watson on the board, wouldn't you rather take a LT back up vs. a back up CB?  I would.


    I would rather move DMC back to corner back fill for him at FS then I would moving Mankins to LT if Solder gets hurt or putting a Svitek in there.  Keeping Brady upright is of utmost importance.  OL shuffle, especially at LT is more worrisome to me then DB suffle.

     



    Not sure you are giving Svitek enough credit. He was a starting T for a playoff team before he was injured

     



    The man was forced in as a starter 2 years ago replacing a struggling Sam Baker.  He started 10 games for Atlanta in 2011.  They were so impressed they let him go after he got hurt.  Before that he started just 6 games from 2005 to 2010.  He was out of football in 2008 and he missed all of 2012 due to injuries.  He's entering his 9th year (missing 2) and has just 16 career starts. That's 1.78 starts per year.

    Like I said, if Vollmer is back, this cat doesn't make the team.  If Vollmer isn't back and Svitek makes the team, are we a better team?  NO!!

    I'm getting really frustrated.  We are sitting on what, $18 to $20 million of cap space?  We're letting our guys go over pennies. There isn't a single player of ours who signed for big bucks elsewhere meaning we could have kept them.

    Right now the top available WR is Edelman and the top OT is Vollmer and yet they are still on the street.  There are a number of DTs and pass rushers out there who could help us.  There are corners out there who are better options than Marquice Cole.  Give me a break.  I don't get it.


    Our star WR corps has been completely dessimated; replaced by injury prone and unheralded players all of whom are lucky to be half as good and half as durable as the players they replaced.  To me the window is closing on Brady and we are nickel and diming ourselves out of great players, getting weaker to save cap space.  What are we going to do with this extra cap space, bank it for 2014?  I hope BB and Kraft are sitting on a master plan and spring it on us soon because this off season has been horrible so far.   

     

     

     
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    [QUOTE]

    1. Kansas City- OT Eric Fisher- MB

     

    2. Jacksonville - DE Ezekiel Ansah - SeattlePat

     

    3. Oakland - DT Sharrif Floyd - PatsEng

     

    4.Philly-OTLuke JoeckelWazzu

     

    5.Detroit- CB Dee Milliner - MB

     

    6.Cleveland- OG Chance Warmack - Low

     

    7.Arizona- OT Lane Johnson -jjd

     

    8.Buffalo- QB Geno Smith - Champs

     

    9. NYJ-  DE  Dion Jordan      Wazzu

     

    10 Tennessee - DT Sheldon Richardson   SeattlePat

     

    11.  San Diego- OG Jonathan Cooper    jjd

     

    12. Miami- DE Bjoern Werner ArmyLT

     

    13.NYJ- DT Star Lotulelei - Low

     

    14.Carolina- DT Jonathan Hankins

     

    15.New Orleans- OLB- Jarvis Jones- MB

     

    16. St Louis-

     

    17.Pittsburgh-

     

    18.Dallas-

     

    19.NYG-

     

    20.Chicago-

     

    21.Cincy-

     

    22.St Louis (From Wash)-

     

    23.Minnesota-

     

    24.Indy-

     

    25.Minnesota (from SEA)-

     

    26.Green Bay-

     

    27.Houston-

     

    28. Denver-

     

    29.New England-

     

    30.Atlanta-

     

    31.San Francisco-

     

    32.Baltimore-

     



     

     
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    Svitek is nothing more than a warm body in training camp.  Odds are he doesn't make the team.  I agree Cannon seems to be liked at RT.  However, there is no back up at LT.  Svitek is not a legit backup.  So, we have no back up at LT if Vollmer leaves which is appearing more likely the longer this goes.

     

    I too would love to add a top CB in the draft.  If Trufant makes it to 29, he would certainly be a player of interest and could be our pick depending who else is there.  However, after Milliner, Rhodes and Trufant, I see a fairly big drop off in talent.  This isn't to say we couldn't target a Poyer, Slay or Alford type with our 2nd but let's say we go a completely different direction with 29.  Let's say we draft a DT for example.  Let's say Vollmer is gone.  Then when our 2nd round pick comes up and you have one of these 2nd tier corners on the board and Armstead, Long and/or Watson on the board, wouldn't you rather take a LT back up vs. a back up CB?  I would.


    I would rather move DMC back to corner back fill for him at FS then I would moving Mankins to LT if Solder gets hurt or putting a Svitek in there.  Keeping Brady upright is of utmost importance.  OL shuffle, especially at LT is more worrisome to me then DB suffle.

     



    Not sure you are giving Svitek enough credit. He was a starting T for a playoff team before he was injured

     

     



    The man was forced in as a starter 2 years ago replacing a struggling Sam Baker.  He started 10 games for Atlanta in 2011.  They were so impressed they let him go after he got hurt.  Before that he started just 6 games from 2005 to 2010.  He was out of football in 2008 and he missed all of 2012 due to injuries.  He's entering his 9th year (missing 2) and has just 16 career starts. That's 1.78 starts per year.

     

    Like I said, if Vollmer is back, this cat doesn't make the team.  If Vollmer isn't back and Svitek makes the team, are we a better team?  NO!!

    I'm getting really frustrated.  We are sitting on what, $18 to $20 million of cap space?  We're letting our guys go over pennies. There isn't a single player of ours who signed for big bucks elsewhere meaning we could have kept them.

    Right now the top available WR is Edelman and the top OT is Vollmer and yet they are still on the street.  There are a number of DTs and pass rushers out there who could help us.  There are corners out there who are better options than Marquice Cole.  Give me a break.  I don't get it.


    Our star WR corps has been completely dessimated; replaced by injury prone and unheralded players all of whom are lucky to be half as good and half as durable as the players they replaced.  To me the window is closing on Brady and we are nickel and diming ourselves out of great players, getting weaker to save cap space.  What are we going to do with this extra cap space, bank it for 2014?  I hope BB and Kraft are sitting on a master plan and spring it on us soon because this off season has been horrible so far.   

     

     



    Respectfully submit that Bedard recently wrote Pats have between 3 to 7 mil to spend. Can't blame BB for putting on the brakes.

     

     

     

     
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    1. Kansas City- OT Eric Fisher- MB

     

    2. Jacksonville - DE Ezekiel Ansah - SeattlePat

     

    3. Oakland - DT Sharrif Floyd - PatsEng

     

    4.Philly-OTLuke JoeckelWazzu

     

    5.Detroit- CB Dee Milliner - MB

     

    6.Cleveland- OG Chance Warmack - Low

     

    7.Arizona- OT Lane Johnson -jjd

     

    8.Buffalo- QB Geno Smith - Champs

     

    9. NYJ-  DE  Dion Jordan      Wazzu

     

    10 Tennessee - DT Sheldon Richardson   SeattlePat

     

    11.  San Diego- OG Jonathan Cooper    jjd

     

    12. Miami- DE Bjoern Werner ArmyLT

     

    13.NYJ- DT Star Lotulelei - Low

     

    14.Carolina- DT Jonathan Hankins

     

    15.New Orleans- OLB- Jarvis Jones- MB

     

    16. St Louis- FS - Kenny Vaccaro - Faucet

     

    17.Pittsburgh-

     

    18.Dallas-

     

    19.NYG-

     

    20.Chicago-

     

    21.Cincy-

     

    22.St Louis (From Wash)-

     

    23.Minnesota-

     

    24.Indy-

     

    25.Minnesota (from SEA)-

     

    26.Green Bay-

     

    27.Houston-

     

    28. Denver-

     

    29.New England-

     

    30.Atlanta-

     

    31.San Francisco-

     

    32.Baltimore-

     

     
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    Svitek is nothing more than a warm body in training camp.  Odds are he doesn't make the team.  I agree Cannon seems to be liked at RT.  However, there is no back up at LT.  Svitek is not a legit backup.  So, we have no back up at LT if Vollmer leaves which is appearing more likely the longer this goes.

     

    I too would love to add a top CB in the draft.  If Trufant makes it to 29, he would certainly be a player of interest and could be our pick depending who else is there.  However, after Milliner, Rhodes and Trufant, I see a fairly big drop off in talent.  This isn't to say we couldn't target a Poyer, Slay or Alford type with our 2nd but let's say we go a completely different direction with 29.  Let's say we draft a DT for example.  Let's say Vollmer is gone.  Then when our 2nd round pick comes up and you have one of these 2nd tier corners on the board and Armstead, Long and/or Watson on the board, wouldn't you rather take a LT back up vs. a back up CB?  I would.


    I would rather move DMC back to corner back fill for him at FS then I would moving Mankins to LT if Solder gets hurt or putting a Svitek in there.  Keeping Brady upright is of utmost importance.  OL shuffle, especially at LT is more worrisome to me then DB suffle.

     



    Not sure you are giving Svitek enough credit. He was a starting T for a playoff team before he was injured

     

     



    The man was forced in as a starter 2 years ago replacing a struggling Sam Baker.  He started 10 games for Atlanta in 2011.  They were so impressed they let him go after he got hurt.  Before that he started just 6 games from 2005 to 2010.  He was out of football in 2008 and he missed all of 2012 due to injuries.  He's entering his 9th year (missing 2) and has just 16 career starts. That's 1.78 starts per year.

     

    Like I said, if Vollmer is back, this cat doesn't make the team.  If Vollmer isn't back and Svitek makes the team, are we a better team?  NO!!

    I'm getting really frustrated.  We are sitting on what, $18 to $20 million of cap space?  We're letting our guys go over pennies. There isn't a single player of ours who signed for big bucks elsewhere meaning we could have kept them.

    Right now the top available WR is Edelman and the top OT is Vollmer and yet they are still on the street.  There are a number of DTs and pass rushers out there who could help us.  There are corners out there who are better options than Marquice Cole.  Give me a break.  I don't get it.


    Our star WR corps has been completely dessimated; replaced by injury prone and unheralded players all of whom are lucky to be half as good and half as durable as the players they replaced.  To me the window is closing on Brady and we are nickel and diming ourselves out of great players, getting weaker to save cap space.  What are we going to do with this extra cap space, bank it for 2014?  I hope BB and Kraft are sitting on a master plan and spring it on us soon because this off season has been horrible so far.   

     

     

     



    Respectfully submit that Bedard recently wrote Pats have between 3 to 7 mil to spend. Can't blame BB for putting on the brakes.

     

     

     

     




    How can that be?  They had $25MM when they restructured Brady, picked up another $4MM or so when they cut Lloyd.  Talib took $5MM and the other guys barely touched the cap.  I have to go look at this as it doesn't make sense to me.

     
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    I almost went WR there with STL.  Can't believe Austin and Patterson are still on the board.

     
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    Patriots take Matt Elam. 

    Jets will take Tavon Austin. Rex Ryan has been envious of the Pats success at the slot position for far too long.  I know he is a D guy but he won't pass this up.  What better way to help the offense then by selecting Austin.  Great returner too!

    Bills take Gino Smith.

     

    Just my predictions.

     




    TFB12, what if NE takes Austin uses DA more to the outside and either double dips with another 3rd round WR or FA WR type.

    ..... I know Austin will be gone by then, they could still go with a one later maybe.  You never know.

     
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    Patriots take Matt Elam. 

    Jets will take Tavon Austin. Rex Ryan has been envious of the Pats success at the slot position for far too long.  I know he is a D guy but he won't pass this up.  What better way to help the offense then by selecting Austin.  Great returner too!

    Bills take Gino Smith.

     

    Just my predictions.

     




    TFB12, what if NE takes Austin uses DA more to the outside and either double dips with another 3rd round WR or FA WR type.

     




    I would love to see Austin make it to 29 but just don't think he makes it out of 20.  He's the most dynamic offensive player in this draft.  I can see STL or CHI taking him and he doesn't have a snow ball's chance of getting past MIN.

    However, if we did get Austin, I'd probably line him up everywhere moving him and Amendola all over the place to keep the defense guessing and off balance.  If you're the nickel playing the slot you have Amendola one play then Austin the next giving you different looks all the time.  Could be a real nightmare to defend.

     
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    I almost went WR there with STL.  Can't believe Austin and Patterson are still on the board.




    STL 's at 16 would have been fine for either.  They have signed Long so OT is not a 1st round need. They need upgrades at both SS and FS.  They can get Cyprien at 22. Between the 4 safeties they have they totaled 7 tackles last year. Chicago will probably go interior OL but if the top guards are gone a WR is highly probable, so getting Austin or Patterson and 16 is not bad.

     
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