***2013 Patriots Draft Thread V2***

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    Hey Guys, have come here every night for about the last four years, several months before the draft, to get familiar with the names, positions, best players, so that by the night of the draft, I can evaluate for myself how I think the Pats have done.  Thanks to all of you, I seldom if ever post, but I appreciate all the work and insight you regulars offer, and I really feel well informed for tonight.  Thank you and have fun!

     
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    CaptFoxboro - great post and I have a question for you and the others on the thread -

    Is there any player in this draft that is worth moving up for, trading future picks for, etc...ala Atlanta and Julio Jones, which in my opinion, has helped them. 

    Ziggy Ansah? Could be Vernon Gholston. 

    Star Lutuleilei? Help for Vince, replace Vince

    Wide Receiver - no Megatron or Megatron-lite (Jones) - Tavon Austin?

    Offensive Lineman - never

    This kind of shows how "boring" this draft is - in my humble opinion.

     



    I love this kid Ansah - to me he is a strong, athletic kid that has boat loads of potential. I really can't see him being a bust - I think he is going to help some team right away.

     

     



    yeah mthurl, did you read all my posts on him when he was a 2nd to a late first rd projection? shot up too hihg and i stooped being intersted (impractical)

     



    Bred, and everyone here...

    Try reading the first 15 pages of this thread again. Interesting conversations. Great to see how  perspectives evolved on some players, and stayed stable on others.

    Jordan and Ansah were spotted early. Even top prospects for 2014 - Clowney, Tuitt, etc.

    One of most interesting was Ramekap's comment on Amendola and Welker (page 9 I think). 

     

     

     
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    In response to seattlepat70's comment:

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    CaptFoxboro - great post and I have a question for you and the others on the thread -

    Is there any player in this draft that is worth moving up for, trading future picks for, etc...ala Atlanta and Julio Jones, which in my opinion, has helped them. 

    Ziggy Ansah? Could be Vernon Gholston. 

    Star Lutuleilei? Help for Vince, replace Vince

    Wide Receiver - no Megatron or Megatron-lite (Jones) - Tavon Austin?

    Offensive Lineman - never

    This kind of shows how "boring" this draft is - in my humble opinion.

     



    I love this kid Ansah - to me he is a strong, athletic kid that has boat loads of potential. I really can't see him being a bust - I think he is going to help some team right away.

     

     



    yeah mthurl, did you read all my posts on him when he was a 2nd to a late first rd projection? shot up too hihg and i stooped being intersted (impractical)

     

     



     

    Bred, and everyone here...

    Try reading the first 15 pages of this thread again. Interesting conversations. Great to see how  perspectives evolved on some players, and stayed stable on others.

    Jordan and Ansah were spotted early. Even top prospects for 2014 - Clowney, Tuitt, etc.

    One of most interesting was Ramekap's comment on Amendola and Welker (page 9 I think). 

     

     



    Yeah man, def some good early stuff, haha.

     
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    I did hear it mentioned that (4) Bama players are expected to be taken in Rd 1 (not sure if it was Shefter or McShay)... though at this point, everything is just hearsay... we'll see if that rings true as that'd mean Milliner, Warmack, Fluker and either Lacy or Williams.

     
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    I am trying to find 7th round WRs to add to Charles Johnson who was already mentioned on these boards. I found one who I find intriguing.

    Myles White of LA Tech. Here are a couple of youtubes of him.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gu7nlRq15Ss

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFPI5038reQ

    Does anyone know why he left Michigan St for LA Tech?

     
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    MB, PE, Faucet, Wazzu, Seattle, and the rest of the great contributors.....

    ....thanks again for all your insight and hard work. Awesome job. Thank you!

     
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    and it starts

     
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    In response to pats-fan-2007's comment:

    MB, PE, Faucet, Wazzu, Seattle, and the rest of the great contributors.....

    ....thanks again for all your insight and hard work. Awesome job. Thank you!



    I can't speak for others but no need for thanks, I utterly enjoy this stuff. If you get some joy and insight from my enjoyment all the better

     
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    OK, I stand corrected.  I didn't think we would be able to trade out of 29, but man am I glad we did!  Outstanding compensation.  2nd, 3rd, 4th, & 7th?  Wow.  Great move.  There will surely be some very good players on the board in Day 2.  Can't wait for a very exciting Day 2.  Nice work, BB!

     
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    Called the trade out

     
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    hoping for hunt/carridine and hankins for our 2nd round picks

     
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    Hoping to take the extra picks and come away with 2 WR's.

     
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    Hoping to take the extra picks and come away with 2 WR's.



    Yeah, i would think they have to go with a WR in RD 2.  Some good names still out there.

     

    I really wanted Ogletree though

     
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    Bb fleeced minny...time to reset 

    really nice. Move by bb...now go get a wr...

     

     
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    Bb fleeced minny...time to reset 

    really nice. Move by bb...now go get a wr...

     



    Depends on who we get. Minn might have fleeced BB. Late 2nd and 3rd. The Pats could be hedging their bets but I always like to take a higher talent them a handful of pebbles and hoping one is a gem

     
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    So BB trades out, not much of a surprise... def time to reset the board and man, I can't wait for tomorrow!

     

     
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    In response to PatsEng's comment:

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    MB, PE, Faucet, Wazzu, Seattle, and the rest of the great contributors.....

    ....thanks again for all your insight and hard work. Awesome job. Thank you!

     



    I can't speak for others but no need for thanks, I utterly enjoy this stuff. If you get some joy and insight from my enjoyment all the better

     



    Yeah man, I'm with ya... this is a passion of mine, love researching/discussing the draft.

     
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    In response to WazzuWheatfarmer's comment:

    OK, I stand corrected.  I didn't think we would be able to trade out of 29, but man am I glad we did!  Outstanding compensation.  2nd, 3rd, 4th, & 7th?  Wow.  Great move.  There will surely be some very good players on the board in Day 2.  Can't wait for a very exciting Day 2.  Nice work, BB!



    no coment till see what we get.

     
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    Bb fleeced minny...time to reset 

    really nice. Move by bb...now go get a wr...

     

     



    Depends on who we get. Minn might have fleeced BB. Late 2nd and 3rd. The Pats could be hedging their bets but I always like to take a higher talent them a handful of pebbles and hoping one is a gem

     



    you have been siingin the tune this year that ive played since i joined bdc.

    im on the same train

     
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    Bloomberg TV this morning reported statistical analyses showing that the best place to draft, from a value perspective, is the 2nd round.

    According to their report, 2 picks in the second round is better than 1 pick in the first round.

    Don't forget that BB has a mathematics college background.

     

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    Bb fleeced minny...time to reset 

    really nice. Move by bb...now go get a wr...

     

     



    Depends on who we get. Minn might have fleeced BB. Late 2nd and 3rd. The Pats could be hedging their bets but I always like to take a higher talent them a handful of pebbles and hoping one is a gem

     

     



    you have been siingin the tune this year that ive played since i joined bdc.

     

    im on the same train




     
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    Bb fleeced minny...time to reset 

    really nice. Move by bb...now go get a wr...

     

     



    Depends on who we get. Minn might have fleeced BB. Late 2nd and 3rd. The Pats could be hedging their bets but I always like to take a higher talent them a handful of pebbles and hoping one is a gem

     



    I don't think,so. We all said the strength of this draft is in rounds 2-3. we now have 4 picks there plus an early 4th. Right in the sweet spot.

    retrospectively, I,wished we offered sanders a bit more money as we now have another 3rd. 

    we could walk out with a cb, WR, de and DT we all talked about. all the dt's like Williams, Jenkins,Hankins are all there. Carradine, okafor, hunt still there...bailey, Patton, Rogers, etc still there...sstill lots of talent to choose from and bb just strengthened his position big time in the swettest places in this draft. 

     
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    In response to PatsLifer's comment:

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    Bb fleeced minny...time to reset 

    really nice. Move by bb...now go get a wr...

     

     



    Depends on who we get. Minn might have fleeced BB. Late 2nd and 3rd. The Pats could be hedging their bets but I always like to take a higher talent them a handful of pebbles and hoping one is a gem

     

     



    I don't think,so. We all said the strength of this draft is in rounds 2-3. we now have 4 picks there plus an early 4th. Right in the sweet spot.

     

    retrospectively, I,wished we offered sanders a bit more money as we now have another 3rd. 

    we could walk out with a cb, WR, de and DT we all talked about. all the dt's like Williams, Jenkins,Hankins are all there. Carradine, okafor, hunt still there...bailey, Patton, Rogers, etc still there...sstill lots of talent to choose from and bb just strengthened his position big time in the swettest places in this draft. 



    Potentially yes but we could also see a 09' situation where we thought the same thing and had the talent gone before we picked again. It's a great area to get players but as with 09' I'd rather have Matthews over the plethera of picks they got

     
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    In response to pats-fan-2007's comment:

    Bloomberg TV this morning reported statistical analyses showing that the best place to draft, from a value perspective, is the 2nd round.

    According to their report, 2 picks in the second round is better than 1 pick in the first round.

    Don't forget that BB has a mathematics college background.

     

    In response to bredbruu's comment:

     

    In response to PatsEng's comment:

     

    In response to PatsLifer's comment:

     

    Bb fleeced minny...time to reset 

    really nice. Move by bb...now go get a wr...

     

     



    Depends on who we get. Minn might have fleeced BB. Late 2nd and 3rd. The Pats could be hedging their bets but I always like to take a higher talent them a handful of pebbles and hoping one is a gem

     

     



    you have been siingin the tune this year that ive played since i joined bdc.

     

    im on the same train

     




     



    That's the problem right there. Sometimes value isn't enough and talent is needed. You need a healthy balance of both imo and right now the Pats have plenty of value but not enough talent also where are they judging those  2nd round picks? The Pats currenly have 2 late 2nd round picks which decreases the value as the level of talent does shift slighly compared to early 2nd rounders

     
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    In response to PatsLifer's comment:

    In response to PatsEng's comment:

     

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    Bb fleeced minny...time to reset 

    really nice. Move by bb...now go get a wr...

     

     



    Depends on who we get. Minn might have fleeced BB. Late 2nd and 3rd. The Pats could be hedging their bets but I always like to take a higher talent them a handful of pebbles and hoping one is a gem

     

     



    I don't think,so. We all said the strength of this draft is in rounds 2-3. we now have 4 picks there plus an early 4th. Right in the sweet spot.

     

    retrospectively, I,wished we offered sanders a bit more money as we now have another 3rd. 

    we could walk out with a cb, WR, de and DT we all talked about. all the dt's like Williams, Jenkins,Hankins are all there. Carradine, okafor, hunt still there...bailey, Patton, Rogers, etc still there...sstill lots of talent to choose from and bb just strengthened his position big time in the swettest places in this draft. 



    List of prospects who could go in the second

    QB: Barkley, Nassib, Smith, maybe Glennon

    NT: S Williams, J Williams, J Jenkins

    DT: Short

    DE: Hunt, Moore, Okafor, Carradine

    CB: Taylor, Rhodes, Banks, Slay

    S: Cyprien

    LB: Minter, Teo, Alonso

    WR: Allen, Woods, Hunter, Williams, Wheaton

    TE: Ertz

    OG: Warford, Winters

    OT: Menelik

    C: Jones, Shwenke

    RB: Lacy

    I think there's still plenty there that other teams will want. Pats will get the ones they want.

     
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