***2013 Patriots Draft Thread V2***

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    I'm sorry guys I just can't get behind Carradine, same as I couldn't get behind Brace and Cunningham (I was a Dunlap fan). When most of your production comes because the opponent is worried about other players more then you I really have to question if that production is real and what happens when you are the man in the system. It's really the big question mark I have with Carradine, what would he have looked like without Werner and would he even be talked about if Jenkins didn't get hurt 



    I think all would have to be looked at individually, though the same question could be asked about Werner as while he's a good player with a good skill set, he's been lucky enough to play across from two good football players as well.  Carradine, IMO has the size/length and skill set to be a real asset on the edge... good awareness, play speed and effort, but up the field and in backside pursuit... excels vs the run and really uses his hands/arm length well to keep blockers at a distance, sets the edge and has a more advanced pass rush repetoire than one would think for a kid with only (2) years at a D1 program (spent the first two at a JUCO I believe).

    I think your question is fair, but I also think that Carradine, who's produced when given a chance, projects as a good player at the NFL level.

     
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    - I’m told Jordan Kovacs results today will likely push him into the late rounds of the draft.  Most specifically his three cone time of 6.62s and short shuttle of 4.19s will dispel some of the concerns that he’s a straight line safety.  As reported earlier the New England Patriots will work out Kovacs individually.

    http://www.draftinsider.net/blog/?p=6860

    It's the 3 cone time. Anyone seen him play?  Special Teams??

    Name:  Jordan Kovacs 
    College:  Michigan      Number: 32
    Height: 5-11    Weight: 205 
    Position:  SS   Pos2: FS/ST
    Class/Draft Year:  rSr/2013
    40 Low: 4.52    40 Time:  4.60   40 High: 4.70 
    Projected Round:    Stock:      
    Rated number 28 out of 164 SS's    




     

    Another late round S to look at is Oregon's John Boyett... very active and instinctive player and has similar size to Kovacs... he had Day 2 upside, but most all of last season with what I believe is patellar tendon injuries(s).

    From what I remember about Kovacs, he was an active kid that was around the football quite often... believe he was actually a walk-on, a real blue collar self starter.

     
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    Hey MB pats had a private workout with Marquess Wilson, do u know something about this guy?

     




    He's one of PE's boys (believe Wazzu likes him too)... good size kid, quicker than fast (has the good triangle numbers)... productive during his time at WSU... but there are def maturity/character questions as he left the team claiming abuse by the coaching staff, so one has to wonder he he'll take to hard coaching... talented kid with Day 2 talent, but the quitting on the team thing bothers me, similar to Syracuse's Mike Williams a couple years ago.



    Hey guys! Yeah, I'd be happy about getting Wilson late 3rd or later, assuming that BB is comfortable with his character.  thin beef with the coaches and quitting on the team is a huge red flag, obviously, but the talent is there to become a very good NFL wideout.  I would like to see us take that chance.

    Washington State QB Jeff Tuel has also been linked to the Patriots.  I really like the thought of taking a chance on Tuel with one of our 7th rounders.  His career at WSU wasn't eye-popping, but his supporting cast (mainly the O-Line) was pretty bad.  Tuel is a tough, smart kid who throws a good ball and I really believe he could be a diamond-in-the-rough.  

     
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    I'm sorry guys I just can't get behind Carradine, same as I couldn't get behind Brace and Cunningham (I was a Dunlap fan). When most of your production comes because the opponent is worried about other players more then you I really have to question if that production is real and what happens when you are the man in the system. It's really the big question mark I have with Carradine, what would he have looked like without Werner and would he even be talked about if Jenkins didn't get hurt 

     



    I think all would have to be looked at individually, though the same question could be asked about Werner as while he's a good player with a good skill set, he's been lucky enough to play across from two good football players as well.  Carradine, IMO has the size/length and skill set to be a real asset on the edge... good awareness, play speed and effort, but up the field and in backside pursuit... excels vs the run and really uses his hands/arm length well to keep blockers at a distance, sets the edge and has a more advanced pass rush repetoire than one would think for a kid with only (2) years at a D1 program (spent the first two at a JUCO I believe).

     

    I think your question is fair, but I also think that Carradine, who's produced when given a chance, projects as a good player at the NFL level.



    The thing about that is Werner was dbl teamed the entire season so other teams game planned around him. That gives me less concern. When Carradine is having a dbl digit sack season and Werner is still the guy teams game plan around that says a lot about both players imo.

     
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    I'm sorry guys I just can't get behind Carradine, same as I couldn't get behind Brace and Cunningham (I was a Dunlap fan). When most of your production comes because the opponent is worried about other players more then you I really have to question if that production is real and what happens when you are the man in the system. It's really the big question mark I have with Carradine, what would he have looked like without Werner and would he even be talked about if Jenkins didn't get hurt 

     



    I think all would have to be looked at individually, though the same question could be asked about Werner as while he's a good player with a good skill set, he's been lucky enough to play across from two good football players as well.  Carradine, IMO has the size/length and skill set to be a real asset on the edge... good awareness, play speed and effort, but up the field and in backside pursuit... excels vs the run and really uses his hands/arm length well to keep blockers at a distance, sets the edge and has a more advanced pass rush repetoire than one would think for a kid with only (2) years at a D1 program (spent the first two at a JUCO I believe).

     

    I think your question is fair, but I also think that Carradine, who's produced when given a chance, projects as a good player at the NFL level.

     



    The thing about that is Werner was dbl teamed the entire season so other teams game planned around him. That gives me less concern. When Carradine is having a dbl digit sack season and Werner is still the guy teams game plan around that says a lot about both players imo.

     



    Personally, I'd be thrilled with either player at 29.

     
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    I'm sorry guys I just can't get behind Carradine, same as I couldn't get behind Brace and Cunningham (I was a Dunlap fan). When most of your production comes because the opponent is worried about other players more then you I really have to question if that production is real and what happens when you are the man in the system. It's really the big question mark I have with Carradine, what would he have looked like without Werner and would he even be talked about if Jenkins didn't get hurt 

     



    I think all would have to be looked at individually, though the same question could be asked about Werner as while he's a good player with a good skill set, he's been lucky enough to play across from two good football players as well.  Carradine, IMO has the size/length and skill set to be a real asset on the edge... good awareness, play speed and effort, but up the field and in backside pursuit... excels vs the run and really uses his hands/arm length well to keep blockers at a distance, sets the edge and has a more advanced pass rush repetoire than one would think for a kid with only (2) years at a D1 program (spent the first two at a JUCO I believe).

     

    I think your question is fair, but I also think that Carradine, who's produced when given a chance, projects as a good player at the NFL level.

     



    The thing about that is Werner was dbl teamed the entire season so other teams game planned around him. That gives me less concern. When Carradine is having a dbl digit sack season and Werner is still the guy teams game plan around that says a lot about both players imo.

     

     



    I think your argument is better suited for a relatively non-productive player like Devin Taylor, who has never been able to throw up big S/TFL #'s while playing along side/across from Jadeveon and Mel Ingram.

    Tough for me to dump on Carradine for producing at a high level when given the opportunity... and I'd have to doubt (haven't seen film of all games) that he was just single blocked all season.

     
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    I'm sorry guys I just can't get behind Carradine, same as I couldn't get behind Brace and Cunningham (I was a Dunlap fan). When most of your production comes because the opponent is worried about other players more then you I really have to question if that production is real and what happens when you are the man in the system. It's really the big question mark I have with Carradine, what would he have looked like without Werner and would he even be talked about if Jenkins didn't get hurt 

     



    I think all would have to be looked at individually, though the same question could be asked about Werner as while he's a good player with a good skill set, he's been lucky enough to play across from two good football players as well.  Carradine, IMO has the size/length and skill set to be a real asset on the edge... good awareness, play speed and effort, but up the field and in backside pursuit... excels vs the run and really uses his hands/arm length well to keep blockers at a distance, sets the edge and has a more advanced pass rush repetoire than one would think for a kid with only (2) years at a D1 program (spent the first two at a JUCO I believe).

     

    I think your question is fair, but I also think that Carradine, who's produced when given a chance, projects as a good player at the NFL level.

     



    The thing about that is Werner was dbl teamed the entire season so other teams game planned around him. That gives me less concern. When Carradine is having a dbl digit sack season and Werner is still the guy teams game plan around that says a lot about both players imo.

     

     



    I think your argument is better suited for a relatively non-productive player like Devin Taylor, who has never been able to throw up big S/TFL #'s while playing along side/across  Jadeveon and Mel Ingram.

    Tough for me to dump on Carradine for producing at a high level when given the opportunity... and I'd have to doubt (haven't seen film of all games) that he was just single blocked all season.




    Dont have an issue with Carradine's production. You could also make the case that Carradine's production was more impressive than Werner's seeing that Carradine lined up mostly at RDE and thus went against the opposing teams best pass protector (the Left Tackle) whereas Werner's sacks came mostly against the lesser pass protector in the RT. This is not to say I necessarily think he is a better player than werner but just giving him props for playing well against good competition.

     
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    Saw this on Nepatriotsdraft:

     

    29.          New England Patriots – DE Cornellius Carradine, Florida St.

    Carradine’s height, bulk, and length should remind New England of Chandler Jones; their recent interest in free-agent pass rushers suggests they are seeking an upgrade over Rob Ninkovich.

    59.          New England Patriots – WR Quinton Patton, Louisiana Tech 

    91.          New England – CB Blidi Wreh-Wilson, Connecticut

     

    1st RD     DE, Carradine

    2nd RD    CB, DJ Hayden

    3rd RD     WR, S.Bailey

    or DT 

    Kwame Geathers

    Bennie Logan

    Jordan Hill

    Montori Hughes

     

     



    Both would be good hauls.

     



    change abiley to rogers and im good.

    move up and get hopkins and rogers im better (hoping we get anothe corner in fa)

    add a second rder and ge both hayden and hopkins in 2, caradine in 1, and rogers in 3, im ecstatic.

     
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    Saw this on Nepatriotsdraft:

     

    29.          New England Patriots – DE Cornellius Carradine, Florida St.

    Carradine’s height, bulk, and length should remind New England of Chandler Jones; their recent interest in free-agent pass rushers suggests they are seeking an upgrade over Rob Ninkovich.

    59.          New England Patriots – WR Quinton Patton, Louisiana Tech 

    91.          New England – CB Blidi Wreh-Wilson, Connecticut

     

    1st RD     DE, Carradine

    2nd RD    CB, DJ Hayden

    3rd RD     WR, S.Bailey

    or DT 

    Kwame Geathers

    Bennie Logan

    Jordan Hill

    Montori Hughes

     

     



    Both would be good hauls.

     

     



    change abiley to rogers and im good.

     

    move up and get hopkins and rogers im better (hoping we get anothe corner in fa)

    add a second rder and ge both hayden and hopkins in 2, caradine in 1, and rogers in 3, im ecstatic.

     




    It really is all preference at this point and while I think Rogers has some size and upside and wouldn't be mad if they snagged him on Day 2, I think Bailey is the better player and IMO, projects as a kid that could come in and pick things up quickly.

     

    I'd take Bailey over Rogers at any point in this draft.

    I'd even go so far to say that Stedman Bailey is one of the most underrated prospects in this class.

     
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    Tank Carradine, Defensive End
    If it wasn’t for his mid-season injury, Tank Carradine might be touted as the best prospect from Florida State instead of fellow defensive end Bjoern Werner. And while Carradine won’t able to work out for NFL teams until his now schedule April 20th workout date (per TomahawkNation.com), he was able to wow NFL teams by putting up 32 reps on the bench press. That would have been the 4th best number put up at the NFL Combine (he did 28 himself in Indy), and no other 1st round hopeful defensive lineman put up 30 plus in at the Combine.

     

    He can definitely set the edge. If he blows up his pro-day he will not be at 29.  He has film that shows good technique.  It will be interesting how he is viewed.  While he rises, I keep reading Hankins dropping and S Williams moving up challenging Sharriff.  Scouts love S Williams motor and pursuit to the end of play, opposite with Hankins.

     
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    Forget 7th RD,

     

    -Also today,20 NFL teams were at the Richmond Pro Day. Safety Cooper Taylor ran a 4.45 with a 36.5 vertical jump, impressive for a 6’4, 228 pound strong safety. He may go as high as the Top 100, especially for teams looking to employ the Seattle Seahawks hybrid/big-bodied defense.

     

     
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    Interesting draft fact:

    Daniel Jeremiah @MoveTheSticks 5m

    There have only been 2 fullbacks (total) selected in the last 5 NFL Drafts. #AlmostExtinct

     

     
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    Forget 7th RD,

     

    -Also today,20 NFL teams were at the Richmond Pro Day. Safety Cooper Taylor ran a 4.45 with a 36.5 vertical jump, impressive for a 6’4, 228 pound strong safety. He may go as high as the Top 100, especially for teams looking to employ the Seattle Seahawks hybrid/big-bodied defense.

     



    Impressive #'s from a big kid, curious as to what his triangle #'s are... really like this kid, had him Day 3, heck had him Rd 7, but I may have to rethink that.

     
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    Tank Carradine, Defensive End
    If it wasn’t for his mid-season injury, Tank Carradine might be touted as the best prospect from Florida State instead of fellow defensive end Bjoern Werner. And while Carradine won’t able to work out for NFL teams until his now schedule April 20th workout date (per TomahawkNation.com), he was able to wow NFL teams by putting up 32 reps on the bench press. That would have been the 4th best number put up at the NFL Combine (he did 28 himself in Indy), and no other 1st round hopeful defensive lineman put up 30 plus in at the Combine.

     

    He can definitely set the edge. If he blows up his pro-day he will not be at 29.  He has film that shows good technique.  It will be interesting how he is viewed.  While he rises, I keep reading Hankins dropping and S Williams moving up challenging Sharriff.  Scouts love S Williams motor and pursuit to the end of play, opposite with Hankins.

    I def see the same with Tank and Sylvester... curious to what effect, if any, the Urban/Vrabel relationship will have here, in regards to Hankins.

     
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    Forget 7th RD,

     

    -Also today,20 NFL teams were at the Richmond Pro Day. Safety Cooper Taylor ran a 4.45 with a 36.5 vertical jump, impressive for a 6’4, 228 pound strong safety. He may go as high as the Top 100, especially for teams looking to employ the Seattle Seahawks hybrid/big-bodied defense.

     

     



    Impressive #'s from a big kid, curious as to what his triangle #'s are... really like this kid, had him Day 3, heck had him Rd 7, but I may have to rethink that.

     



    3rd rd for sure:

    Taylor, who clocks in as one of the biggest safeties in the 2013 NFL Draft at 6'4" and 229 pounds, posted some impressive measurables at the Richmond Pro Day, posting what would be excellent numbers for a linebacker of his size. Taylor ran the 40-yard dash in times of 4.45 and 4.53, which is much faster than I expected him to run and put up 23 reps on the bench press.

    Taylor also posted a 36.5" vertical jump as well as a 10'7" broad jump. In the agility drills, Taylor graded out excellent for his size with a 4.2 short shuttle and a 6.9 3-cone time which would have ranked him right at the same pace with some of the top safeties and corners in the draft.

     
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    Forget 7th RD,

     

    -Also today,20 NFL teams were at the Richmond Pro Day. Safety Cooper Taylor ran a 4.45 with a 36.5 vertical jump, impressive for a 6’4, 228 pound strong safety. He may go as high as the Top 100, especially for teams looking to employ the Seattle Seahawks hybrid/big-bodied defense.

     

     



    Impressive #'s from a big kid, curious as to what his triangle #'s are... really like this kid, had him Day 3, heck had him Rd 7, but I may have to rethink that.

     

     



    3rd rdfor sure:

     

    Taylor, who clocks in as one of the biggest safeties in the 2013 NFL Draft at 6'4" and 229 pounds, posted some impressive measurables at the Richmond Pro Day, posting what would be excellent numbers for a linebacker of his size. Taylor ran the 40-yard dash in times of 4.45 and 4.53, which is much faster than I expected him to run and put up 23 reps on the bench press.

    Taylor also posted a 36.5" vertical jump as well as a 10'7" broad jump. In the agility drills, Taylor graded out excellent for his size with a 4.2 short shuttle and a 6.9 3-cone time which would have ranked him right at the same pace with some of the top safeties and corners in the draft.



    Some pretty impressive triangle #'s for a tall kid... def looks like a bigtime option as that S/LB hybrid that'd match up well with TE's.

     
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    They were talking about how he will be looked at like Kam Chancellor in Seattle as a "bandit " safety, exactly what you are projecting.

     
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    Mike Loyko @NEPD_Loyko 11m

    Arizona St. RT @DougHaller: Bill Belichick stopped by campus and visited with Todd Graham. Graham plans to take coaches visit Patriots soon.

     

    Anyone have an idea if there are any prospects he would be looking at to draft?

     
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    Updated Big 53 Board... new additions highlighted in red:

    Rd 1

    DT- Jesse Williams

    DE/OLB- Tank Carradine

    OG- Jonathan Cooper

    CB- Xavier Rhodes

    DT- Sylvester Williams

    WR- DeAndre Hopkins

    WR- Keenan Allen

    WR- Tavon Austin

    OT DJ Fluker

    DT- John Hankins

     

    Rd 1-2

    S- Matt Elam

    S- Jon Cyprien

     

    Rd 2

    CB- DJ Hayden

    CB- Logan Ryan

    CB- Johnthan Banks

    CB- Jamar Taylor

    CB- Jordan Poyer

    OLB/DE- Margus Hunt

    WR- Quinton Patton

    DT- John Jenkins

     

    Rd 2-3

    CB- Darius Slay

    WR- Stedman Bailey

    WR- Ryan Swope

    S- DJ Swearinger

    LB- Khaseem Greene

    OL- Barrett Jones

    OL- Brian Winters

     

    Rd 3

    S- Shamarko Thomas

    WR- Markus Wheaton

    DE/OLB- Michael Buchanan

    OL- David Quessenberry

    C/OG- Brian Schwenke

    DE/OLB- Lavar Edwards

    CB- Tyrann Mathieu

    DE/OLB- Devin Taylor

    DT- Kwame Geathers

     

     

    Rd 4-7

     

    WR/PR- Ace Sanders

    S- Cooper Taylor

    S- Josh Evans

    WR- Chris Harper

    WR- Josh Boyce

    OT- Reid Fragel

    S- Zeke Motta

    DE/OLB- Cornelius Washington

    OG- Jeff Baca

    OL- Tanner Hawkinson

    DL- Josh Boyd

    WR- TJ Moe

    RB- Spencer Ware

    WR- Trent Steelman

    DL- Chris Jones

    DL- Quinton Dial

    DL- Kapron Lewis-Moore

     

     
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    Mike Loyko @NEPD_Loyko 11m

    Arizona St. RT @DougHaller: Bill Belichick stopped by campus and visited with Todd Graham. Graham plans to take coaches visit Patriots soon.

     

    Anyone have an idea if there are any prospects he would be looking at to draft?



    ASU doesn't really have any Day 2 kids, so maybe late round/URFA types WR Jamal Miles, S Keelan Johnson or OT Brice Schwab?

     
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    I'm interested to see if BB will target Army QB Trent Steelman on Day 3-URFA as an Edelman type QB convert (same goes for Denard Robinson)... Both Steelman and Robinson are tough, productive kids that dont' have the skill set to remain as QB's at the NFL level, but have displayed the athleticism to potentially contribute on ST as they get more comfortable at WR.

    Robinson has gamebreaking speed and ability in the open field, while Steelman has demonstrated a ton of versatility and willingness to do whatever he can to help the team (believe he was long snapping at the shrine game?).

    You know BB loves these military kids, which is one of the big reasons that I've added Steelman as a late round option... his pro-day is Thursday.

     
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    Saw this on Nepatriotsdraft:

     

    29.          New England Patriots – DE Cornellius Carradine, Florida St.

    Carradine’s height, bulk, and length should remind New England of Chandler Jones; their recent interest in free-agent pass rushers suggests they are seeking an upgrade over Rob Ninkovich.

    59.          New England Patriots – WR Quinton Patton, Louisiana Tech 

    91.          New England – CB Blidi Wreh-Wilson, Connecticut

     

    1st RD     DE, Carradine

    2nd RD    CB, DJ Hayden

    3rd RD     WR, S.Bailey

    or DT 

    Kwame Geathers

    Bennie Logan

    Jordan Hill

    Montori Hughes

     

     



    Both would be good hauls.

     

     



    change abiley to rogers and im good.

     

    move up and get hopkins and rogers im better (hoping we get anothe corner in fa)

    add a second rder and ge both hayden and hopkins in 2, caradine in 1, and rogers in 3, im ecstatic.

     




    It really is all preference at this point and while I think Rogers has some size and upside and wouldn't be mad if they snagged him on Day 2, I think Bailey is the better player and IMO, projects as a kid that could come in and pick things up quickly.

     

    I'd take Bailey over Rogers at any point in this draft.

    I'd even go so far to say that Stedman Bailey is one of the most underrated prospects in this class.



    havent watched a lot of players like you guys (icludign bailey) AND i know it's very difficult to box out a big and tall wr.

    opinion registered

     
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    Tank Carradine, Defensive End
    If it wasn’t for his mid-season injury, Tank Carradine might be touted as the best prospect from Florida State instead of fellow defensive end Bjoern Werner. And while Carradine won’t able to work out for NFL teams until his now schedule April 20th workout date (per TomahawkNation.com), he was able to wow NFL teams by putting up 32 reps on the bench press. That would have been the 4th best number put up at the NFL Combine (he did 28 himself in Indy), and no other 1st round hopeful defensive lineman put up 30 plus in at the Combine.

     

    He can definitely set the edge. If he blows up his pro-day he will not be at 29.  He has film that shows good technique.  It will be interesting how he is viewed.  While he rises, I keep reading Hankins dropping and S Williams moving up challenging Sharriff.  Scouts love S Williams motor and pursuit to the end of play, opposite with Hankins.



    thanks jj.

    yes im hoping carradine isnt ready till after the draft.

     
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    Forget 7th RD,

     

    -Also today,20 NFL teams were at the Richmond Pro Day. Safety Cooper Taylor ran a 4.45 with a 36.5 vertical jump, impressive for a 6’4, 228 pound strong safety. He may go as high as the Top 100, especially for teams looking to employ the Seattle Seahawks hybrid/big-bodied defense.

     



    that is athletic

     

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