***2013 Patriots Draft Thread V2***

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    Looks like Oregon will be #1 now with Alabama falling to #4? Kansas State #2 and ND #3

     
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    Looks like Oregon will be #1 now with Alabama falling to #4? Kansas State #2 and ND #3



    yeah that was predictble sat. night.

    what gets my goat is not my teams and conf losses , its that teh ncaa coudl care less that teh best team in the land is nc. its about all this "free money" the bowl system brings to people who just show up  for the checks ie 100,000$ checks to bowl officials who do no work, jsut have a title. its a scam. not to mentiuon the presidents of the big schools.

    teh bs about its too mcuh for teh players to have a playoffs and all tis other bs any thinking person knows is jsut crap.

    in basketaball, baseball, hockey and every level of football up to ncaafb, there is a playoff, not a championship handed to the team wiht most wins in the weakest conference. you have to earn it on the field.

    this year, there are no real "super teams", still a 3 loss sec team at teh end of teh year, lets say if lsu loses 3, would likely beat every team including bama and be one of the top 2 best teams that make it to the last game, say against oregon.

    most people who never played in the sec, hav no idea what it is to get batterd like that every week and still have to make 1 or no losses teh whole year to have a chance at a title. its not jsut about winning one game against a tough sec team. its the culmulation.

    take any team in the last ten years or so not from the sec (who went undefeated for instance) and let them play every  week in the sec and teh championship and their record woudl not be zero or 1 loss by the end of the year. you practically have to be a "super team" to survive it undefeated or with 1 loss.

     
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    by the way, on the mankins talk.

    got me thinking,

    mankins, our 2nd, next years second (and if necessary a 5) for a first from someone who is between 10 and 22 that needs a guard.

    with our 2 one's get 2 of 3 stud de, stud dt and c/g (ie barrett).

    would be ruthless move trading a guy like that who gives it all, but that is bb often anyway, but make the defense to go with the offense.

    this year and next 2 be all in for sb.

    fa if need safety and or corner.

    oh and id be remiss if i didnt say, use dennard adn talib teh way they should be, in aggressive man coverage. been saying this a bit and i noticed troy brown said teh same thing 2 days ago, "you have to play that way in this league with the pasing gaem the way it is."

    we now have 2 guys who can do it.

    re talib, we need to either keep him (hes been no trouble for a year minus the adderall) and mandate he stay in n.e. in the offfseasoon liek tampa did, or replace him in offseason with equal or better cb fa.



    I don't think I'd want to give up that much to move up. As much as I'd like to dump Mankin's contract, that's giving up 3 players for 1 who isn't proven yet. I think there are some good quality lineman in this draft that can be had in the 2nd round. I'd consider Mankins and a 2nd rounder to move up(if someone is willing to take it) but adding in an additional 2nd rounder is too much imo

     

    hey cheese,

    yeah was following up on someones idea of using maknins.

    bottome line, i do want to make a play for 2 studs in rd 1 and would pull the trigger with next years picks. nothing to lose except the opportunity to get soemthing out of bradys last years.

    what woudl help the most. its hard to say cause we could use elite cb adn safety (not to mention a true wr who can get seperation)

    but a de who cant be stopped. a dt who cant be stopped and a dominant interior o lineman would go a long way

     
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    here is MY favorite guy going into this draft! I really think you guys should look into him! 

     

    Margus Hunt, SMU, DE/KB: The native of Estonia sounds like a PlayStation football creation: A 6-foot-8, 280 pounder with an 82-inch wingspan. Yet despite those long arms, he can still bench 225 35 times, and his coach, SMU track coach Dave Wollman, predicts Hunt will rep it 45 times next year at the NFL combine and clock a 4.60 40-yard dash. Hunt has cleaned 384 pounds, snatched 345 and vertical jumped 36 inches. "He's off-the-scale powerful," said Wollman. "On that kind of frame, seeing the cleans and the catch go that high to the ceiling, it is amazing."

    Hunt is a prodigious track talent. He won gold medals in the shot and discus at the 2006 World Junior Championships in Beijing, becoming the first junior athlete to ever achieve such a double. He didn't leave his country and move to Dallas to play college football. He moved to Texas to train with Wollman, but SMU hasn't been able to get back its men's track program. Hunt still wanted to train with Wollman, who had mentored another decorated discus thrower from Estonia. To help cover the cost of tuition, Wollman figured with Hunt's size and athleticism, he might be able to help the Mustangs football team. After Hunt blasted blocking sleds and ran a 4.70 40 during a tryout, June Jones said, "Oh yeah, I'll take him."

    That move has paid off nicely for the Mustangs on the gridiron. Hunt has blocked 14 kicks in three years and had 7.5 tackles for loss last season, including a breakout three-sack performance in SMU's bowl win over Pitt.   Wollman has coached 19 Olympians in his career and Hunt has the athleticism and is hard-wired to become No. 20. "He's the most kinetic aware of any athlete I've ever had," Wollman said, launching into a dissertation about Hunt's wondrous hand-eye coordination and a remarkable acute level of body awareness. As a football player, Hunt is still pretty raw, having only played -- and trained for the sport -- for just a few years. He says this offseason he's working to get his legs bigger and hopes to lower his center of gravity. Hunt has even put his track career on hold for football, which has bothered some folks back home, he said: "I was called a national traitor because I 'started doing some stupid sport.' My mom reads the Internet comments. I had to calm her down. But no matter what, Estonia will always be my home country."

    Wollman is optimistic that his protégé won't just make it in the NFL soon, but that Hunt's visibility and what he's done for Mustang football will also help bring the men's track program back to SMU. 

     
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    I'm with you Nate. Hunt is my top choice for a Jones bookend right now. I have him somewhere in the late 1st to late 2nd range, but athletic freaks tend to rise up boards quickly. Honestly I'd be happy with either Hunt or Jenkins in the first but I think I'd prefer Jenkins so we could kick Cunningham back outside. Cunningham was awful up the middle when they decided to run on him

     
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    I'm with you Nate. Hunt is my top choice for a Jones bookend right now. I have him somewhere in the late 1st to late 2nd range, but athletic freaks tend to rise up boards quickly. Honestly I'd be happy with either Hunt or Jenkins in the first but I think I'd prefer Jenkins so we could kick Cunningham back outside. Cunningham was awful up the middle when they decided to run on him



    how bout tradiNG up an in for BOTH (with next years picks). we need experience more than youth at some point and qualtiiy more than qunatity. if they both are that good, get 2 de studs. and o line help in 3rd.

     
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    I agree that Hunt will get plenty of looks from BB/NC... also can't get over the qty of edge talent with size/length/athleticism, that could potentially be available in this class.

     
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    I agree that Hunt will get plenty of looks from BB/NC... also can't get over the qty of edge talent with size/length/athleticism, that could potentially be available in this class.



    hey mb, just looked at a mock last night that had them all (many) being picked iin the top half or so of rd 1. 

    again what about all iin for 2 studs in rd 1?

     
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    Sorry if these have already been posted but I found some videos of Hunt

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXIV8LYURsc

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGBBKibXTrs&feature=related

     

    Blocking 14 kicks is amazing! BB loves 4 down players

     

     

     
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    Looks like Oregon will be #1 now with Alabama falling to #4? Kansas State #2 and ND #3




    I got that wrong. I was looking at the AP rankings. KS #1 Oregon #2

     
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    by the way, on the mankins talk.

    got me thinking,

    mankins, our 2nd, next years second (and if necessary a 5) for a first from someone who is between 10 and 22 that needs a guard.

    with our 2 one's get 2 of 3 stud de, stud dt and c/g (ie barrett).

    would be ruthless move trading a guy like that who gives it all, but that is bb often anyway, but make the defense to go with the offense.

    this year and next 2 be all in for sb.

    fa if need safety and or corner.

    oh and id be remiss if i didnt say, use dennard adn talib teh way they should be, in aggressive man coverage. been saying this a bit and i noticed troy brown said teh same thing 2 days ago, "you have to play that way in this league with the pasing gaem the way it is."

    we now have 2 guys who can do it.

    re talib, we need to either keep him (hes been no trouble for a year minus the adderall) and mandate he stay in n.e. in the offfseasoon liek tampa did, or replace him in offseason with equal or better cb fa.



    I don't think I'd want to give up that much to move up. As much as I'd like to dump Mankin's contract, that's giving up 3 players for 1 who isn't proven yet. I think there are some good quality lineman in this draft that can be had in the 2nd round. I'd consider Mankins and a 2nd rounder to move up(if someone is willing to take it) but adding in an additional 2nd rounder is too much imo

     

    hey cheese,

    yeah was following up on someones idea of using maknins.

    bottome line, i do want to make a play for 2 studs in rd 1 and would pull the trigger with next years picks. nothing to lose except the opportunity to get soemthing out of bradys last years.

    what woudl help the most. its hard to say cause we could use elite cb adn safety (not to mention a true wr who can get seperation)

    but a de who cant be stopped. a dt who cant be stopped and a dominant interior o lineman would go a long way



    I think they should focus on D with the first 2 picks. I'm tired of seeing them draft  DB's in the 1st couple of rounds. I think McCourtey should stay at FS but a lot can be defined depending on how Talib plays. We should all have a better idea what they need back there over the next several weeks. Whether or not Talib is back next year is another story. I'm not sure I want to see Chung back because he gets injured so often

     
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    by the way, on the mankins talk.

    got me thinking,

    mankins, our 2nd, next years second (and if necessary a 5) for a first from someone who is between 10 and 22 that needs a guard.

    with our 2 one's get 2 of 3 stud de, stud dt and c/g (ie barrett).

    would be ruthless move trading a guy like that who gives it all, but that is bb often anyway, but make the defense to go with the offense.

    this year and next 2 be all in for sb.

    fa if need safety and or corner.

    oh and id be remiss if i didnt say, use dennard adn talib teh way they should be, in aggressive man coverage. been saying this a bit and i noticed troy brown said teh same thing 2 days ago, "you have to play that way in this league with the pasing gaem the way it is."

    we now have 2 guys who can do it.

    re talib, we need to either keep him (hes been no trouble for a year minus the adderall) and mandate he stay in n.e. in the offfseasoon liek tampa did, or replace him in offseason with equal or better cb fa.



    I don't think I'd want to give up that much to move up. As much as I'd like to dump Mankin's contract, that's giving up 3 players for 1 who isn't proven yet. I think there are some good quality lineman in this draft that can be had in the 2nd round. I'd consider Mankins and a 2nd rounder to move up(if someone is willing to take it) but adding in an additional 2nd rounder is too much imo

     

    hey cheese,

    yeah was following up on someones idea of using maknins.

    bottome line, i do want to make a play for 2 studs in rd 1 and would pull the trigger with next years picks. nothing to lose except the opportunity to get soemthing out of bradys last years.

    what woudl help the most. its hard to say cause we could use elite cb adn safety (not to mention a true wr who can get seperation)

    but a de who cant be stopped. a dt who cant be stopped and a dominant interior o lineman would go a long way



    I think they should focus on D with the first 2 picks. I'm tired of seeing them draft  DB's in the 1st couple of rounds. I think McCourtey should stay at FS but a lot can be defined depending on how Talib plays. We should all have a better idea what they need back there over the next several weeks. Whether or not Talib is back next year is another story. I'm not sure I want to see Chung back because he gets injured so often



    agree on chung, he is also a liability in coverage.

    i started sayign no more cbs in draft, esp high last year.

    what do you think of mvoing into 1 to get top de and top dt

     
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    I agree that Hunt will get plenty of looks from BB/NC... also can't get over the qty of edge talent with size/length/athleticism, that could potentially be available in this class.



    hey mb, just looked at a mock last night that had them all (many) being picked iin the top half or so of rd 1. 

    again what about all iin for 2 studs in rd 1?



    Would all depend on who's available and what the cost to do so would be.

     
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    I agree that Hunt will get plenty of looks from BB/NC... also can't get over the qty of edge talent with size/length/athleticism, that could potentially be available in this class.



    hey mb, just looked at a mock last night that had them all (many) being picked iin the top half or so of rd 1. 

    again what about all iin for 2 studs in rd 1?



    Would all depend on who's available and what the cost to do so would be.



    screw the cost, weve wasted most of bradys years, its now or never to go for a few. and we are plenty young. thanks for weighing in.

    and im reerrign up enough if neccessary to get a de and dt gamechanger..

     
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    I'm with you Nate. Hunt is my top choice for a Jones bookend right now. I have him somewhere in the late 1st to late 2nd range, but athletic freaks tend to rise up boards quickly. Honestly I'd be happy with either Hunt or Jenkins in the first but I think I'd prefer Jenkins so we could kick Cunningham back outside. Cunningham was awful up the middle when they decided to run on him



    how bout tradiNG up an in for BOTH (with next years picks). we need experience more than youth at some point and qualtiiy more than qunatity. if they both are that good, get 2 de studs. and o line help in 3rd.




    As much as I'd like to trade up like we did last year:

    1. I don't think we have the ammo to do so
    2. I see a lot of talent in the late 1st to 3rd range
    3. We have too many holes to come away with only 2 players in the draft

    We honestly need an interior OL (but with the way Wendell is playing maybe a less of a concern), a WR, a starting caliber DB, an interior DL, and depth/upgrade at DE (though Nink has looked good recently). Hopefully they take care of the OL and DB in FA but I don't have much faith in them finding a WR, or DL on the open market given their history. That's an awful lot to put into one basket. But, if you break down the draft to the first 3 rounds you have:

    Interior DL:

    • Jonathan Jenkins
    • Sarrif Floyd
    • Jesse Williams
    • Kwame Geathers
    • Daniel McCullers


    Exterior DL:

    • Alex Okafor
    • Jackson Jeffcoat
    • Tank Carradine
    • Margus Hunt
    • William Gholston
    • Michael Buchanen
    • (Jones I think will end up out of reach)

    WR/DB:

    • Eric Reid
    • Matt Elam
    • Robert Lester
    • Terrance Williams
    • DeAndre Hopkins
    • Cordarrelle Patterson
    • Tavon Austin
    • Johnthan Banks
    • Jordan Poyer
    • Micah Hyde

    There is a lot of talent in that latish 1st to 3rd range. Frankly this year I might spend a 3rd next year to move our (hopefully) late 3rd up into the early 3rd-mid 2nd range but short of that I'd sit back and let the talent come to you. This upcoming year is going to be a good one to sit back and not move up unless someone drops

     
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    I'm with you Nate. Hunt is my top choice for a Jones bookend right now. I have him somewhere in the late 1st to late 2nd range, but athletic freaks tend to rise up boards quickly. Honestly I'd be happy with either Hunt or Jenkins in the first but I think I'd prefer Jenkins so we could kick Cunningham back outside. Cunningham was awful up the middle when they decided to run on him



    how bout tradiNG up an in for BOTH (with next years picks). we need experience more than youth at some point and qualtiiy more than qunatity. if they both are that good, get 2 de studs. and o line help in 3rd.




    As much as I'd like to trade up like we did last year:

    1. I don't think we have the ammo to do so
    2. I see a lot of talent in the late 1st to 3rd range
    3. We have too many holes to come away with only 2 players in the draft

    We honestly need an interior OL (but with the way Wendell is playing maybe a less of a concern), a WR, a starting caliber DB, an interior DL, and depth/upgrade at DE (though Nink has looked good recently). Hopefully they take care of the OL and DB in FA but I don't have much faith in them finding a WR, or DL on the open market given their history. That's an awful lot to put into one basket. But, if you break down the draft to the first 3 rounds you have:

    Interior DL:

    • Jonathan Jenkins
    • Sarrif Floyd
    • Jesse Williams
    • Kwame Geathers
    • Daniel McCullers


    Exterior DL:

    • Alex Okafor
    • Jackson Jeffcoat
    • Tank Carradine
    • Margus Hunt
    • William Gholston
    • Michael Buchanen
    • (Jones I think will end up out of reach)

    WR/DB:

    • Eric Reid
    • Matt Elam
    • Robert Lester
    • Terrance Williams
    • DeAndre Hopkins
    • Cordarrelle Patterson
    • Tavon Austin
    • Johnthan Banks
    • Jordan Poyer
    • Micah Hyde

    There is a lot of talent in that latish 1st to 3rd range. Frankly this year I might spend a 3rd next year to move our (hopefully) late 3rd up into the early 3rd-mid 2nd range but short of that I'd sit back and let the talent come to you. This upcoming year is going to be a good one to sit back and not move up unless someone drops




    Micah Hyde could provide real value.  Was watching some tape on him last night (he'll be in my initial Top 25 Board Stack)... good size/length (6-1 190), moves well, very aggressive and tackles well (we know BB likes a DB that can tackle)... also like his ball skills (27 PD / 7 INT in his career).. and the Iowa connection.  The downside is he was arrested for public intoxication in October, so that will certainly need to be looked into... I saw him with a 5th round grade in one reputable publication, but I think he's a Day 2 talent.

     
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    Micah Hyde could provide real value.  Was watching some tape on him last night (he'll be in my initial Top 25 Board Stack)... good size/length (6-1 190), moves well, very aggressive and tackles well (we know BB likes a DB that can tackle)... also like his ball skills (27 PD / 7 INT in his career).. and the Iowa connection.  The downside is he was arrested for public intoxication in October, so that will certainly need to be looked into... I saw him with a 5th round grade in one reputable publication, but I think he's a Day 2 talent.




    I'm not to concerned about the drinking, I mean it's college and he doesn't have a past history. I doubt that will even be talked about for 30s in a draft room unless more incidents happen. I'm with you though I think he has potential to sneak into the late 2nd but ultimately end up as a day 2 pick. Personally I'm looking at him as a 3rd rounder for the Pats if he drops that far. I was trying to reserve that spot for an OL or a DE with high potential but if the go DL early and Hyde's sitting there in the 3rd I'm grabbing him, even if they need to trade a 7th to move up 5-6 spots. To me he has the same potential as Ras coming out but with a lot less injury risk. I do like his hip work too and he's one that gets his head around

     
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    Good points guys. I wouldn't mind seeing the Pats trade back a few spots and add a 5th or 6th round pick. There's a couple guys I'd like the Pats to get that are projected to go in the middle to the back of the draft but they don't have the picks. Michael Williams is one of them. He's a great blocker, did well against Montgomery and Mingo when they played LSU

     
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    Good points guys. I wouldn't mind seeing the Pats trade back a few spots and add a 5th or 6th round pick. There's a couple guys I'd like the Pats to get that are projected to go in the middle to the back of the draft but they don't have the picks. Michael Williams is one of them. He's a great blocker, did well against Montgomery and Mingo when they played LSU



    I do think you'll see some movement by BB/NC, yeah... would be surprised if they ended up taking all of their assigned picks.

     
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    Micah Hyde could provide real value.  Was watching some tape on him last night (he'll be in my initial Top 25 Board Stack)... good size/length (6-1 190), moves well, very aggressive and tackles well (we know BB likes a DB that can tackle)... also like his ball skills (27 PD / 7 INT in his career).. and the Iowa connection.  The downside is he was arrested for public intoxication in October, so that will certainly need to be looked into... I saw him with a 5th round grade in one reputable publication, but I think he's a Day 2 talent.




    I'm not to concerned about the drinking, I mean it's college and he doesn't have a past history. I doubt that will even be talked about for 30s in a draft room unless more incidents happen. I'm with you though I think he has potential to sneak into the late 2nd but ultimately end up as a day 2 pick. Personally I'm looking at him as a 3rd rounder for the Pats if he drops that far. I was trying to reserve that spot for an OL or a DE with high potential but if the go DL early and Hyde's sitting there in the 3rd I'm grabbing him, even if they need to trade a 7th to move up 5-6 spots. To me he has the same potential as Ras coming out but with a lot less injury risk. I do like his hip work too and he's one that gets his head around



    Prob a fair statement RE: college drinking... as long as there's no track record of abuse(I'm sure Ferentz will give him all the info he needs), the concern is prob minimal.

    Would love to land him in Rd 3... wouldn't disagree with you on the Ras-I comparison... I actually like Hyde better based on the tape (hope to see more). 

    Check out Illinois CB Terry Hawthorne as well... another kid with similar size (6-0 190) that isn't afraid to get his nose dirty as a run defender and gives a very good effort.

     
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    I'm with you Nate. Hunt is my top choice for a Jones bookend right now. I have him somewhere in the late 1st to late 2nd range, but athletic freaks tend to rise up boards quickly. Honestly I'd be happy with either Hunt or Jenkins in the first but I think I'd prefer Jenkins so we could kick Cunningham back outside. Cunningham was awful up the middle when they decided to run on him



    how bout tradiNG up an in for BOTH (with next years picks). we need experience more than youth at some point and qualtiiy more than qunatity. if they both are that good, get 2 de studs. and o line help in 3rd.




    As much as I'd like to trade up like we did last year:

    1. I don't think we have the ammo to do so
    2. I see a lot of talent in the late 1st to 3rd range
    3. We have too many holes to come away with only 2 players in the draft

    We honestly need an interior OL (but with the way Wendell is playing maybe a less of a concern), a WR, a starting caliber DB, an interior DL, and depth/upgrade at DE (though Nink has looked good recently). Hopefully they take care of the OL and DB in FA but I don't have much faith in them finding a WR, or DL on the open market given their history. That's an awful lot to put into one basket. But, if you break down the draft to the first 3 rounds you have:

    Interior DL:

    • Jonathan Jenkins
    • Sarrif Floyd
    • Jesse Williams
    • Kwame Geathers
    • Daniel McCullers


    Exterior DL:

    • Alex Okafor
    • Jackson Jeffcoat
    • Tank Carradine
    • Margus Hunt
    • William Gholston
    • Michael Buchanen
    • (Jones I think will end up out of reach)

    WR/DB:

    • Eric Reid
    • Matt Elam
    • Robert Lester
    • Terrance Williams
    • DeAndre Hopkins
    • Cordarrelle Patterson
    • Tavon Austin
    • Johnthan Banks
    • Jordan Poyer
    • Micah Hyde

    There is a lot of talent in that latish 1st to 3rd range. Frankly this year I might spend a 3rd next year to move our (hopefully) late 3rd up into the early 3rd-mid 2nd range but short of that I'd sit back and let the talent come to you. This upcoming year is going to be a good one to sit back and not move up unless someone drops



    very interesting conversation mb.

    while i see the speparation wr need and db need, i see 2 glaring things.

    1. we only have 3 picks outside of rd 7

    2. bigtime playmakers will make a difference in brdyas last years more than average/ nfl players.

    given these i identify 3 positons i want to focus on in the draft (db, wr, fa and udfa or trade):

    monster dt

    monster pass rsuhing de

    dominating c/g

    im tlaking moving up wiht multiple picks, at least 2 in rd 1 (and moving those up).

    to do so, id be willing to trade all or most of 2014 draft.

    we are young enough and need some experience, so going a year without adding a lto of youth wqith this team we will be ok.

    more importantly if we dont get soem sbs we will have wasted 10+ years of having a hall of faem qb.

    monster players at these 3 positions i believe will make the difference for a sb (or sb's plural) in coming years.

    i will give you, if we get the huge dominating c/g in fa we can go for the wr or db in draft (but our track recored forever at both, but particularly cb, im am scared sh@@@ about bb making picks there.

    by the way, really fun discussing startegies for the draft in this way (above) with you (and all) here.

     
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    Re: ***2013 Patriots Draft Thread V2***

    In response to Homecheese's comment:

    Good points guys. I wouldn't mind seeing the Pats trade back a few spots and add a 5th or 6th round pick. There's a couple guys I'd like the Pats to get that are projected to go in the middle to the back of the draft but they don't have the picks. Michael Williams is one of them. He's a great blocker, did well against Montgomery and Mingo when they played LSU



    great observation home

     
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    Re: ***2013 Patriots Draft Thread V2***

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    In response to Homecheese's comment:

    Good points guys. I wouldn't mind seeing the Pats trade back a few spots and add a 5th or 6th round pick. There's a couple guys I'd like the Pats to get that are projected to go in the middle to the back of the draft but they don't have the picks. Michael Williams is one of them. He's a great blocker, did well against Montgomery and Mingo when they played LSU



    I do think you'll see some movement by BB/NC, yeah... would be surprised if they ended up taking all of their assigned picks.




    +1 I can't remember a draft that BB kept all of his picks where they were. 2000(BB's first draft here) maybe?

     
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    by the way, really fun discussing startegies for the draft in this way (above) with you (and all) here.




    +1

     
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    In response to bredbru's comment:

    by the way, really fun discussing startegies for the draft in this way (above) with you (and all) here.




    +1

    home, 
    this thread is 10 times the qualtiy and type of posting on the board. actually people using their brain and having fun talking football, with a little comraderie mixed in. if only there were a pats board with only this.

    ok, its up to one of you guys to create it. im a luddite when  it comes to technology and can barely send email (only slightly joking). im much more developed in right brain (creative disciplines).

     
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