***2013 Patriots Draft Thread V2***

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    so in light of the manziel fantasy and or 2015 draft qb lottery.

    we woudl have to trade for the pick BEFORE the team knew it had the #1 pick.

    given this what is your top 5 seeds for that #1 pick.

    i dont know, looking at organizations, i would think oakland and jacksonville would have a shot (and both have a qb that they may try to get by with next year (but could go for one in 14 if they decide they need one, and therefore not in 15)

     
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    so in light of the manziel fantasy and or 2015 draft qb lottery.

    we woudl have to trade for the pick BEFORE the team knew it had the #1 pick.

    given this what is your top 5 seeds for that #1 pick.

    i dont know, looking at organizations, i would think oakland and jacksonville would have a shot (and both have a qb that they may try to get by with next year (but could go for one in 14 if they decide they need one, and therefore not in 15)




    2015

    1. jets- stuck with sanchez, ryan can't draft or bring in FA anymore, and they are in cap hell.

    2. jags MJD is probably out,

    3. eagles, without reid and vick they are lost, plus McCoy is aging and injury prone.

    4. Cheifs- without romeo and being that cassel isn't their answer they need a QB and a coach.

    5. vikings- peterson is starting to get injured more and more, ponder will regress without peterson.  harvin can't stay healthy either

     
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    so in light of the manziel fantasy and or 2015 draft qb lottery.

    we woudl have to trade for the pick BEFORE the team knew it had the #1 pick.

    given this what is your top 5 seeds for that #1 pick.

    i dont know, looking at organizations, i would think oakland and jacksonville would have a shot (and both have a qb that they may try to get by with next year (but could go for one in 14 if they decide they need one, and therefore not in 15)




    2015

    1. jets- stuck with sanchez, ryan can't draft or bring in FA anymore, and they are in cap hell.

    2. jags MJD is probably out,

    3. eagles, without reid and vick they are lost, plus McCoy is aging and injury prone.

    4. Cheifs- without romeo and being that cassel isn't their answer they need a QB and a coach.

    5. vikings- peterson is starting to get injured more and more, ponder will regress without peterson.  harvin can't stay healthy either



    this is 2 years out. i considered jets. but they their coach is not he worst coach in the league and i think they would have no problem going for a qb in the draft this year and next.

    eagles thats an interesting thought.

    vikes too? as teh #32 team in 2 years.  not sure about that one.

    considered chiefs, but they would be out in a year if they dont improve. and they willl have the best shot for the best qb this year. they should improve in 2 years...unless they really draft the wrong qb.

     
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    so in light of the manziel fantasy and or 2015 draft qb lottery.

    we woudl have to trade for the pick BEFORE the team knew it had the #1 pick.

    given this what is your top 5 seeds for that #1 pick.

    i dont know, looking at organizations, i would think oakland and jacksonville would have a shot (and both have a qb that they may try to get by with next year (but could go for one in 14 if they decide they need one, and therefore not in 15)




    2015

    1. jets- stuck with sanchez, ryan can't draft or bring in FA anymore, and they are in cap hell.

    2. jags MJD is probably out,

    3. eagles, without reid and vick they are lost, plus McCoy is aging and injury prone.

    4. Cheifs- without romeo and being that cassel isn't their answer they need a QB and a coach.

    5. vikings- peterson is starting to get injured more and more, ponder will regress without peterson.  harvin can't stay healthy either



    this is 2 years out. i considered jets. but they their coach is not he worst coach in the league and i think they would have no problem going for a qb in the draft this year and next.

    i think the jets will give sexy rexy one more shot and they are stuck with sanchez so in 2 years they will be with a new coach and new QB when they finally realize that rex isn't a head coordinator and sanchez is a terrible QB.  plus their defense is old and they might not be able to give revis 20 million this offseason so they could be without one of their top Defensive playmakers in 2 years. 

    eagles thats an interesting thought. without reid and vick they only have McCoy to lean on plus desean jackson has a big injury history and their defense is in shambles.  Plus they are in a division with washington who is on the uprise, the giants who are always tough and the cowboys, who if they ever got rid of jerry jones could be very good.  Plus there is rumor that sean Payton might go to the cowboys.  There could easily be 6 losses right there

    vikes too? Jared Allen will be 32 and injuries will start to get to him.  plus i have a feeling that they will stick to ponder for at least another year of failure so in 2 years they could very well be at the bottom of the league with a new rookie QB leading them into a bad season. Adrian peterson will be 29 and with the amount of carries he gets and the history of injuries he could be just about out of the league then.  as teh #32 team in 2 years.  not sure about that one.

    considered chiefs, but they would be out in a year if they dont improve. and they willl have the best shot for the best qb this year. QB and coach change can take a few years to set in so i really think they could be bad for the next few years.  they should improve in 2 years...unless they really draft the wrong qb.



    who would you select?

     
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    so in light of the manziel fantasy and or 2015 draft qb lottery.

    we woudl have to trade for the pick BEFORE the team knew it had the #1 pick.

    given this what is your top 5 seeds for that #1 pick.

    i dont know, looking at organizations, i would think oakland and jacksonville would have a shot (and both have a qb that they may try to get by with next year (but could go for one in 14 if they decide they need one, and therefore not in 15)




    2015

    1. jets- stuck with sanchez, ryan can't draft or bring in FA anymore, and they are in cap hell.

    2. jags MJD is probably out,

    3. eagles, without reid and vick they are lost, plus McCoy is aging and injury prone.

    4. Cheifs- without romeo and being that cassel isn't their answer they need a QB and a coach.

    5. vikings- peterson is starting to get injured more and more, ponder will regress without peterson.  harvin can't stay healthy either



    this is 2 years out. i considered jets. but they their coach is not he worst coach in the league and i think they would have no problem going for a qb in the draft this year and next.

    i think the jets will give sexy rexy one more shot and they are stuck with sanchez so in 2 years they will be with a new coach and new QB when they finally realize that rex isn't a head coordinator and sanchez is a terrible QB.  plus their defense is old and they might not be able to give revis 20 million this offseason so they could be without one of their top Defensive playmakers in 2 years. 

    eagles thats an interesting thought. without reid and vick they only have McCoy to lean on plus desean jackson has a big injury history and their defense is in shambles.  Plus they are in a division with washington who is on the uprise, the giants who are always tough and the cowboys, who if they ever got rid of jerry jones could be very good.  Plus there is rumor that sean Payton might go to the cowboys.  There could easily be 6 losses right there

    vikes too? Jared Allen will be 32 and injuries will start to get to him.  plus i have a feeling that they will stick to ponder for at least another year of failure so in 2 years they could very well be at the bottom of the league with a new rookie QB leading them into a bad season. Adrian peterson will be 29 and with the amount of carries he gets and the history of injuries he could be just about out of the league then.  as teh #32 team in 2 years.  not sure about that one.

    considered chiefs, but they would be out in a year if they dont improve. and they willl have the best shot for the best qb this year. QB and coach change can take a few years to set in so i really think they could be bad for the next few years.  they should improve in 2 years...unless they really draft the wrong qb.



    who would you select?



    well before deliberating longer, i threw out the raiders and jax and gave reasonign for both.

    curious you didn think oakland would be one of the 5.

    more details later

     
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    Tyrann Mathiew to declare for the draft:

    http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/tyrann-mathieu-college-career-officially-coming-close-ll-174212899--ncaaf.html

     
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    hey mb, i predicted that here after his last bust. venture the rd he will go in?

     
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    hey mb, i predicted that here after his last bust. venture the rd he will go in?




    As far as NE is concerned, late round option (5-7) due to the missed time and off field issues.

     
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    Been catching up with the thread. Appreciate everyones input and the entertainment this draft talk provides. A few thoughts:

    I started out the year hoping for Barret Jones as our potential first round pick due to his versatility ( one of the rare guys that can play all 5 positions on the line at a high level) but seeing the Job that guys like Nick Macdonald, Donald Thomas, Ryan Wendell and Marcus Cannon have done it leads me to believe that this guys have merited an opportunity to keep playing next year. I havent even mentioned a guy like Matt Kopa who Dante spoke glowingly of prior to the Super Bowl but whose season has been derailed by injuries. Markus Zusevics is another guy who played well in Iowa for Ferentz opposite Riley Reiff and Im keen to see what he can do at RT. At this point, I would rather they keep working with the guys they have whether or not Vollmer is resigned.

    Regarding Safety, I have professed my love for Kenny Vaccaro in the past but I struggle to see whether he can make a difference playing deep safety early on in his career. He could definately make an impact playing close to the line of scrimmage like Chung used to but we already have that guy in Tavon Wilson. If anything, I would rather make a bid on a veteran Free Safety such as Jairus Byrd than use a high pick on a FS that will take 2 or so yrs to settle in that position. FS is an incredibly difficult position to play at a high level. There arent many perenially great FSs playing in the league.

    Presently, my ideal and realistic selections would be DT Jesse Williams in the First. DE Margus Hunt in the Second and The Best available perimeter WR in the 3rd. Kenny Tate and Tyrann Mathieu might slip to Alfonzo Dennard levels where I hope we could scoop them up. Tate due to injury and Mathieu for behavioral stuff.

    Apologies for the long post.

     
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    Been catching up with the thread. Appreciate everyones input and the entertainment this draft talk provides. A few thoughts:

    I started out the year hoping for Barret Jones as our potential first round pick due to his versatility ( one of the rare guys that can play all 5 positions on the line at a high level) but seeing the Job that guys like Nick Macdonald, Donald Thomas, Ryan Wendell and Marcus Cannon have done it leads me to believe that this guys have merited an opportunity to keep playing next year. I havent even mentioned a guy like Matt Kopa who Dante spoke glowingly of prior to the Super Bowl but whose season has been derailed by injuries. Markus Zusevics is another guy who played well in Iowa for Ferentz opposite Riley Reiff and Im keen to see what he can do at RT. At this point, I would rather they keep working with the guys they have whether or not Vollmer is resigned.

    Regarding Safety, I have professed my love for Kenny Vaccaro in the past but I struggle to see whether he can make a difference playing deep safety early on in his career. He could definately make an impact playing close to the line of scrimmage like Chung used to but we already have that guy in Tavon Wilson. If anything, I would rather make a bid on a veteran Free Safety such as Jairus Byrd than use a high pick on a FS that will take 2 or so yrs to settle in that position. FS is an incredibly difficult position to play at a high level. There arent many perenially great FSs playing in the league.

    Presently, my ideal and realistic selections would be DT Jesse Williams in the First. DE Margus Hunt in the Second and The Best available perimeter WR in the 3rd. Kenny Tate and Tyrann Mathieu might slip to Alfonzo Dennard levels where I hope we could scoop them up. Tate due to injury and Mathieu for behavioral stuff.

    Apologies for the long post.




    1st of all welcome to the board!  I like your draft and we shall see what happens closer to the draft. Hopefully hunt will still be available in the 2nd and mathieu will still be a low round pick.

     
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    hey mb, i predicted that here after his last bust. venture the rd he will go in?




    As far as NE is concerned, late round option (5-7) due to the missed time and off field issues.




    I think the highest round he would go based on his combine performance would be 4th round due to the character flaws, and potential drug issues.  I think realistically he will be taken in the 5-6th round. 

     
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    hey mb, i predicted that here after his last bust. venture the rd he will go in?




    As far as NE is concerned, late round option (5-7) due to the missed time and off field issues.




    I think the highest round he would go based on his combine performance would be 4th round due to the character flaws, and potential drug issues.  I think realistically he will be taken in the 5-6th round. 



    hey nate, a lot of people here said th esame thing about jenkins. i hoped hed make it to mid second, but thought he would be picked end of rd 1 to 2.

    mathieu i think will be picked between 2nd and 3rd rd, end of 7th (or even udfa) would be lovely :)

    why did i say that abotu jenkins and mathieu, because i think some team wont risk losing what he could be to their team (his upside). he has several unique talents.

     
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    Agree with MBs points on the Honey Badger. I might also add that other DBs have a emerged as legit day one players, Matheiu is small at 5'7 (if you line him up against Johnson Andre or Calvin who wins that battle), he has value as a return man, and the NFL is littered with castaways who were great college players.

    3rd or 4th is about the highest I'll go, but he could kill it at the combine (can he be invited?) or private workouts and improve his draft stock.  Seems to me this kid had a sub- 4.5 40. Haven't seen him lately....could be he put on 20lbs in the wrong places.

    I see him as being one of those "hes a great football player, someone will find a position for him".

     
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    hey mb, i predicted that here after his last bust. venture the rd he will go in?




    As far as NE is concerned, late round option (5-7) due to the missed time and off field issues.



    mb, what do you mean "as far as ne is concerned?" my question was when do you think he will be taken. did you answer where ne would be tempted to take him?

     
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    Been catching up with the thread. Appreciate everyones input and the entertainment this draft talk provides. A few thoughts:

    I started out the year hoping for Barret Jones as our potential first round pick due to his versatility ( one of the rare guys that can play all 5 positions on the line at a high level) but seeing the Job that guys like Nick Macdonald, Donald Thomas, Ryan Wendell and Marcus Cannon have done it leads me to believe that this guys have merited an opportunity to keep playing next year. I havent even mentioned a guy like Matt Kopa who Dante spoke glowingly of prior to the Super Bowl but whose season has been derailed by injuries. Markus Zusevics is another guy who played well in Iowa for Ferentz opposite Riley Reiff and Im keen to see what he can do at RT. At this point, I would rather they keep working with the guys they have whether or not Vollmer is resigned.

    Regarding Safety, I have professed my love for Kenny Vaccaro in the past but I struggle to see whether he can make a difference playing deep safety early on in his career. He could definately make an impact playing close to the line of scrimmage like Chung used to but we already have that guy in Tavon Wilson. If anything, I would rather make a bid on a veteran Free Safety such as Jairus Byrd than use a high pick on a FS that will take 2 or so yrs to settle in that position. FS is an incredibly difficult position to play at a high level. There arent many perenially great FSs playing in the league.

    Presently, my ideal and realistic selections would be DT Jesse Williams in the First. DE Margus Hunt in the Second and The Best available perimeter WR in the 3rd. Kenny Tate and Tyrann Mathieu might slip to Alfonzo Dennard levels where I hope we could scoop them up. Tate due to injury and Mathieu for behavioral stuff.

    Apologies for the long post.



    first rule, never apolgize for giviing us good stuff (the longer or the more, the better:)

    hunt and williams were brought up early from a few guys here. im on board if we cant get the 1a dt and 1a de. wr is also a need as in a big seperation guy. who is it here? that mentioned frederick in the 3rd as an option. i like top dt, stud pass rsuhing de, and c/g who can win in the pass and the run. wr is my 4th option (ie 7th rd or udfa).

     
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    Tyrann Mathiew to declare for the draft:

    http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/tyrann-mathieu-college-career-officially-coming-close-ll-174212899--ncaaf.html

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    hey mb, i predicted that here after his last bust. venture the rd he will go in?

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    As far as NE is concerned, late round option (5-7) due to the missed time and off field issues.

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    I think the highest round he would go based on his combine performance would be 4th round due to the character flaws, and potential drug issues.  I think realistically he will be taken in the 5-6th round. 

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    hey nate, a lot of people here said th esame thing about jenkins. i hoped hed make it to mid second, but thought he would be picked end of rd 1 to 2.

    mathieu i think will be picked between 2nd and 3rd rd, end of 7th (or even udfa) would be lovely :)

    why did i say that abotu jenkins and mathieu, because i think some team wont risk losing what he could be to their team (his upside). he has several unique talents.

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    http://nfl.si.com/2012/11/29/honey-badger-declares-for-nfl-draft-what-are-tyrann-mathieus-prospects/?sct=hp_t2_a16&eref=sihp


    "At 5-foot-9 and 175 pounds, Mathieu lacks the prototypical size of an elite cornerback. Any team that selects him also may have to adjust its defensive playbook — Mathieu thrived at LSU, in part, because the coaching staff did not hesitate to use him all over the secondary. Mathieu even slid up as a linebacker to rush the quarterback at times."

    Linebacker!!!  I think some team will grab him by the 4th.

     
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    http://nfl.si.com/2012/11/29/honey-badger-declares-for-nfl-draft-what-are-tyrann-mathieus-prospects/?sct=hp_t2_a16&eref=sihp


    "At 5-foot-9 and 175 pounds, Mathieu lacks the prototypical size of an elite cornerback. Any team that selects him also may have to adjust its defensive playbook — Mathieu thrived at LSU, in part, because the coaching staff did not hesitate to use him all over the secondary. Mathieu even slid up as a linebacker to rush the quarterback at times."

    Linebacker!!!  I think some team will grab him by the 4th.

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    how many 5'9 linebackers who weigh 175 have you heard of in the NFL?

     
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    hey mb, i predicted that here after his last bust. venture the rd he will go in?




    As far as NE is concerned, late round option (5-7) due to the missed time and off field issues.




    I think the highest round he would go based on his combine performance would be 4th round due to the character flaws, and potential drug issues.  I think realistically he will be taken in the 5-6th round. 



    hey nate, a lot of people here said th esame thing about jenkins. i hoped hed make it to mid second, but thought he would be picked end of rd 1 to 2.

    mathieu i think will be picked between 2nd and 3rd rd, end of 7th (or even udfa) would be lovely :)

    why did i say that abotu jenkins and mathieu, because i think some team wont risk losing what he could be to their team (his upside). he has several unique talents.




    Jenkins is a more talented player than Mathieu, IMO, which is the difference.  Mathieu certainly has some ability and is a scrappy/gritty type player, but I think he's relegated to more slot coverage only at the NFL level, where I think Jenkins has shut down CB ability on the outside or inside.

     
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    hey mb, i predicted that here after his last bust. venture the rd he will go in?




    As far as NE is concerned, late round option (5-7) due to the missed time and off field issues.



    mb, what do you mean "as far as ne is concerned?" my question was when do you think he will be taken. did you answer where ne would be tempted to take him?




    I answered the question, I think they'd be interested in Rds 5-7.

     
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    hey mb, i predicted that here after his last bust. venture the rd he will go in?




    As far as NE is concerned, late round option (5-7) due to the missed time and off field issues.




I think the highest round he would go based on his combine performance would be 4th round due to the character flaws, and potential drug issues.  I think realistically he will be taken in the 5-6th round. 



hey nate, a lot of people here said th esame thing about jenkins. i hoped hed make it to mid second, but thought he would be picked end of rd 1 to 2.

mathieu i think will be picked between 2nd and 3rd rd, end of 7th (or even udfa) would be lovely :)

why did i say that abotu jenkins and mathieu, because i think some team wont risk losing what he could be to their team (his upside). he has several unique talents.

http://nfl.si.com/2012/11/29/honey-badger-declares-for-nfl-draft-what-are-tyrann-mathieus-prospects/?sct=hp_t2_a16&eref=sihp


"At 5-foot-9 and 175 pounds, Mathieu lacks the prototypical size of an elite cornerback. Any team that selects him also may have to adjust its defensive playbook — Mathieu thrived at LSU, in part, because the coaching staff did not hesitate to use him all over the secondary. Mathieu even slid up as a linebacker to rush the quarterback at times."

Linebacker!!!  I think some team will grab him by the 4th.




He could prob be utilized in some sort of exotic CB blitz or creatively as a 9 tech, but an NFL team would love to see Mathieu lined up at LB so they could run right at him... or even attack him with a TE in the pass game.  Tough kid, gritty/scrappy as I posted in an earlier response, but clearly outmanned at the LB position at the NFL level.  Kid has made some pretty dumb decisions, but I do love his play on the field and is a kid that I'd love to see them bring in in the later rounds, where their risk is minimized.

 
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    hey mb, i predicted that here after his last bust. venture the rd he will go in?




    As far as NE is concerned, late round option (5-7) due to the missed time and off field issues.



    mb, what do you mean "as far as ne is concerned?" my question was when do you think he will be taken. did you answer where ne would be tempted to take him?




    I answered the question, I think they'd be interested in Rds 5-7.



    thanks for clraifying. i actually ddi not understand what you meant initially

     
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    hey mb, i predicted that here after his last bust. venture the rd he will go in?




    As far as NE is concerned, late round option (5-7) due to the missed time and off field issues.




    I think the highest round he would go based on his combine performance would be 4th round due to the character flaws, and potential drug issues.  I think realistically he will be taken in the 5-6th round. 



    hey nate, a lot of people here said th esame thing about jenkins. i hoped hed make it to mid second, but thought he would be picked end of rd 1 to 2.

    mathieu i think will be picked between 2nd and 3rd rd, end of 7th (or even udfa) would be lovely :)

    why did i say that abotu jenkins and mathieu, because i think some team wont risk losing what he could be to their team (his upside). he has several unique talents.




    Jenkins is a more talented player than Mathieu, IMO, which is the difference.  Mathieu certainly has some ability and is a scrappy/gritty type player, but I think he's relegated to more slot coverage only at the NFL level, where I think Jenkins has shut down CB ability on the outside or inside.



    nice take. my opinon is that with the cover ability he has demonstrated, the ball hawking, and the special teams play combined he is quite valuable (on th field) . would i love it if he were taller, bigger, heavier yeah. but besides covering, he is a threat to take any ball he touches to the house.

     
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    Missoure DL, Sheldon Richardson to declare for the draft:

    http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/11/30/sheldon-richardson-leaving-mizzou-after-two-years-for-nfl/

     
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    saw that. thanks for keeping us all up to date

     
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    Re: ***2013 Patriots Draft Thread V2***

    In response to natesubs' comment:

    http://nfl.si.com/2012/11/29/honey-badger-declares-for-nfl-draft-what-are-tyrann-mathieus-prospects/?sct=hp_t2_a16&eref=sihp


    "At 5-foot-9 and 175 pounds, Mathieu lacks the prototypical size of an elite cornerback. Any team that selects him also may have to adjust its defensive playbook — Mathieu thrived at LSU, in part, because the coaching staff did not hesitate to use him all over the secondary. Mathieu even slid up as a linebacker to rush the quarterback at times."

    Linebacker!!!  I think some team will grab him by the 4th.



    how many 5'9 linebackers who weigh 175 have you heard of in the NFL?




  • Hey Nate, was not highlighting his linebacker skills.  Was surprised he would even be used in that position. I just think a team will have to adapt to him.  IMO, that is an issue. Some team will grab him if that can maximize his talents. My guess again would be in the 4th or 5th rd, if he is clean.

     
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