***2013 Patriots Draft Thread V2***

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    As much as I like Phillip Thomas I am not sure about adding another rookie to the safety mix. If Chung leaves as expected I'd like to see the Pats add a wily vet. One UFA guy who intrigues me is Quintan Jammef of the Chargers. He as played CB his whole career but at this stage a move to safety might be in order. I also wonder about another ex-Longhorn - the Bill's Aaron Williams who was drafted high but hasn't found his game in Buffalo. He is another guy, fairly big, who might be better suited at safety than CB.

     

    I had forgotten about Jeff Demps, Mb. Could he be the Pats sleeper of 2013?



    Demps is def an intriguing cat... could def impact in the return game, at the very least.

     
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    MB, thoughts on LSU DT Bennie Logan?




    Adequate size, though not an ideal BB DT at 6-3 295, though he does carry the weight well (thick lower half), could prob add 5-10 pounds without much issue and appears to have long arms.

    When he plays with good leverage/pad level, he's tough to move off his spot, he also has some upfield quickness so I think he could interest both 34 and 43 teams.  He shows good awareness, getting his hands on a fair amount of footballs by putting his hands up... isn't overly quick to the flanks, but gives a good effort in pursuit... didn't see much in the way of pass rush moves.

    Overall, I think he projects as a solid, yet unspectactacular DT prospect that could play for a long time in the NFL... we'll see if he declares.

     
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    Our defense is what, the 2nd youngest in the NFL?  If we can keep Talib, I actually think we could go offense with at least 2 of our 5 picks.  What happens with Welker, Edelman, Woodhead and Vollmer in the off season could be key to what we do in the draft on the offensive side of the ball.  The Pats appear to be sitting on about $35MM in cap space heading into 2013 before any moves are made according to the below article.

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1399828-new-england-patriots-salary-cap-scenario-heading-into-2013

    Welker could certainly be tagged again.  The cost would be $11.4MM which is still a bargain for a guy with his production if a longer term deal cannot be found.  Re-signing Edelman should be doable and before he got hurt showed what a dangerous and versitale weapon he can be in two phases of the game.  Woodhood could be replaced by Vereen if he becomes too expensive or by Demps.

    To me, Vollmer is a big ???  He is often injured and we don't have a top flight OT behind him.  Therefore, I would not be at all shocked if we went with a stud Left Tackle who can back up Solder and possibly start on the right side if we lose Vollmer.  Mankins should be back to form next year and I think Wendell has acquitted himself well this year.  Connolly is back and Nick McDonald is restricted so I don't see us going interior OL. 

     

     
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    Our defense is what, the 2nd youngest in the NFL?  If we can keep Talib, I actually think we could go offense with at least 2 of our 5 picks.  What happens with Welker, Edelman, Woodhead and Vollmer in the off season could be key to what we do in the draft on the offensive side of the ball.  The Pats appear to be sitting on about $35MM in cap space heading into 2013 before any moves are made according to the below article.

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1399828-new-england-patriots-salary-cap-scenario-heading-into-2013

    Welker could certainly be tagged again.  The cost would be $11.4MM which is still a bargain for a guy with his production if a longer term deal cannot be found.  Re-signing Edelman should be doable and before he got hurt showed what a dangerous and versitale weapon he can be in two phases of the game.  Woodhood could be replaced by Vereen if he becomes too expensive or by Demps.

    To me, Vollmer is a big ???  He is often injured and we don't have a top flight OT behind him.  Therefore, I would not be at all shocked if we went with a stud Left Tackle who can back up Solder and possibly start on the right side if we lose Vollmer.  Mankins should be back to form next year and I think Wendell has acquitted himself well this year.  Connolly is back and Nick McDonald is restricted so I don't see us going interior OL. 

     



    thanks for the reference. im oppostie you with de in draft

    and agree about important decision on vollmer. has his back been same on and off issue alll year, do we expect it to continue? if so move on and get a free agent rt tackle (j. long?)

    im wiht nate, the off pick i like a c/g player more dominant than wendell.

     
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    Our defense is what, the 2nd youngest in the NFL?  If we can keep Talib, I actually think we could go offense with at least 2 of our 5 picks.  What happens with Welker, Edelman, Woodhead and Vollmer in the off season could be key to what we do in the draft on the offensive side of the ball.  The Pats appear to be sitting on about $35MM in cap space heading into 2013 before any moves are made according to the below article.

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1399828-new-england-patriots-salary-cap-scenario-heading-into-2013

    Welker could certainly be tagged again.  The cost would be $11.4MM which is still a bargain for a guy with his production if a longer term deal cannot be found.  Re-signing Edelman should be doable and before he got hurt showed what a dangerous and versitale weapon he can be in two phases of the game.  Woodhood could be replaced by Vereen if he becomes too expensive or by Demps.

    To me, Vollmer is a big ???  He is often injured and we don't have a top flight OT behind him.  Therefore, I would not be at all shocked if we went with a stud Left Tackle who can back up Solder and possibly start on the right side if we lose Vollmer.  Mankins should be back to form next year and I think Wendell has acquitted himself well this year.  Connolly is back and Nick McDonald is restricted so I don't see us going interior OL. 

     



    Good info.

    I think a lot depends on how they view Cannon moving forward, as Vollmer's backup... I do think they like Sea Bass a lot and would love to have him back, but I wouldn't rule OT out in this draft... particularly Oday Aboushi and Lane Johnson on Day 2. 

     
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    Our defense is what, the 2nd youngest in the NFL?  If we can keep Talib, I actually think we could go offense with at least 2 of our 5 picks.  What happens with Welker, Edelman, Woodhead and Vollmer in the off season could be key to what we do in the draft on the offensive side of the ball.  The Pats appear to be sitting on about $35MM in cap space heading into 2013 before any moves are made according to the below article.

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1399828-new-england-patriots-salary-cap-scenario-heading-into-2013

    Welker could certainly be tagged again.  The cost would be $11.4MM which is still a bargain for a guy with his production if a longer term deal cannot be found.  Re-signing Edelman should be doable and before he got hurt showed what a dangerous and versitale weapon he can be in two phases of the game.  Woodhood could be replaced by Vereen if he becomes too expensive or by Demps.

    To me, Vollmer is a big ???  He is often injured and we don't have a top flight OT behind him.  Therefore, I would not be at all shocked if we went with a stud Left Tackle who can back up Solder and possibly start on the right side if we lose Vollmer.  Mankins should be back to form next year and I think Wendell has acquitted himself well this year.  Connolly is back and Nick McDonald is restricted so I don't see us going interior OL. 

     



    Good info.

    I think a lot depends on how they view Cannon moving forward, as Vollmer's backup... I do think they like Sea Bass a lot and would love to have him back, but I wouldn't rule OT out in this draft... particularly Oday Aboushi and Lane Johnson on Day 2. 




    mb, no one saying we dont like him. i love him. if tehy think his back wont hinder his play or games played for his career, of course they keep him.

     
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    Appreciate the info on available salary cap space Faucet. $35 million is enough cash to seriously improve depth and even add some quality veteran starters. Im really looking at the Eagles roster as there are some really talented veterans on there who I want to see on the pats. Nnamdi Asmomugha, Cullen Jenkins and DE Phillip Hunt are 3 guys I hope the pats take a long look at. Dwight Freeney from the colts would also look great at RDE sharing time with Chandler Jones.

    If we can address S/CB, DT and DE needs prior to the draft we go in with the luxury of being able to pick strictly Best Player Available. It seems that often we see players in the draft sliding for whatever reason. If you recall last year, everyone had Chandler Jones as a top 15 pick on draft day and David Decastro going no later than Cincinatti at 17 but both fell later. I feel less and less confident that guys like Ezekiel Ansah and Margus Hunt will be available when we pick in the 1st. I have also cooled quite a bit on Jesse Williams and John Jenkins. I expect both of them to go no earlier than the second. Teams do not place a high value on guys deemed to be no more than space eaters. A this point I would rather the pats signed Alameda Taamu of the Steelers practice squad than use a high pick on any NT not named Hankins or Lotulelei.

    For What Its Worth, These are some of my favorites at the end of the 1st

    Robert Woods WR USC; Kenny Vaccaro FS/SS Texas; Tony Jefferson FS/SS Oklahoma; Ezekiel Ansah DE BYU; Margus Hunt DE/DT SMU

    In the second

    Matt Elam S Florida; Logan Ryan CB Rutgers; Leon McFadden CB San Diego State; Sean Porter OLB Texas A&M;

    I did not include any OL prospects as the only guy I have seen a good amount of is Barrett Jones. The more I see him the less thrilled I am about him as a Pats pick. He strikes me as a great technician pass blocking but underwhelms when it comes to moving his man in the run game. He will often let his man run himself out of the play and wall him off but rarely do you see him able to just square up to the DT and drive him 3 yards past the Line of scrimmage. He is very similar to what we currently have in Wendell and Connolly at Center. I was hoping for more like a Mangold, Pouncey Brothers at C. Barrett Jones is not that.

     
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    Appreciate the info on available salary cap space Faucet. $35 million is enough cash to seriously improve depth and even add some quality veteran starters. Im really looking at the Eagles roster as there are some really talented veterans on there who I want to see on the pats. Nnamdi Asmomugha, Cullen Jenkins and DE Phillip Hunt are 3 guys I hope the pats take a long look at. Dwight Freeney from the colts would also look great at RDE sharing time with Chandler Jones.

    If we can address S/CB, DT and DE needs prior to the draft we go in with the luxury of being able to pick strictly Best Player Available. It seems that often we see players in the draft sliding for whatever reason. If you recall last year, everyone had Chandler Jones as a top 15 pick on draft day and David Decastro going no later than Cincinatti at 17 but both fell later. I feel less and less confident that guys like Ezekiel Ansah and Margus Hunt will be available when we pick in the 1st. I have also cooled quite a bit on Jesse Williams and John Jenkins. I expect both of them to go no earlier than the second. Teams do not place a high value on guys deemed to be no more than space eaters. A this point I would rather the pats signed Alameda Taamu of the Steelers practice squad than use a high pick on any NT not named Hankins or Lotulelei.

    For What Its Worth, These are some of my favorites at the end of the 1st

    Robert Woods WR USC; Kenny Vaccaro FS/SS Texas; Tony Jefferson FS/SS Oklahoma; Ezekiel Ansah DE BYU; Margus Hunt DE/DT SMU

    In the second

    Matt Elam S Florida; Logan Ryan CB Rutgers; Leon McFadden CB San Diego State; Sean Porter OLB Texas A&M;

    I did not include any OL prospects as the only guy I have seen a good amount of is Barrett Jones. The more I see him the less thrilled I am about him as a Pats pick. He strikes me as a great technician pass blocking but underwhelms when it comes to moving his man in the run game. He will often let his man run himself out of the play and wall him off but rarely do you see him able to just square up to the DT and drive him 3 yards past the Line of scrimmage. He is very similar to what we currently have in Wendell and Connolly at Center. I was hoping for more like a Mangold, Pouncey Brothers at C. Barrett Jones is not that.



    I'd like to see Chance Warmack drop a bit like DeCastro, being that he's a pure OG, but even at 24 I think he'd be out of NE's range... awesome football player though.

    I think the opposite is true, players that can clog the middle generally come at a premium on draft day especially those that are successful at doing so in the SEC.  Personally, I'm higher on Williams than Jenkins... I'd also have ND NT Louis Nix III near the top of my board if he declares.

     
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    Our defense is what, the 2nd youngest in the NFL?  If we can keep Talib, I actually think we could go offense with at least 2 of our 5 picks.  What happens with Welker, Edelman, Woodhead and Vollmer in the off season could be key to what we do in the draft on the offensive side of the ball.  The Pats appear to be sitting on about $35MM in cap space heading into 2013 before any moves are made according to the below article.

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1399828-new-england-patriots-salary-cap-scenario-heading-into-2013

    Welker could certainly be tagged again.  The cost would be $11.4MM which is still a bargain for a guy with his production if a longer term deal cannot be found.  Re-signing Edelman should be doable and before he got hurt showed what a dangerous and versitale weapon he can be in two phases of the game.  Woodhood could be replaced by Vereen if he becomes too expensive or by Demps.

    To me, Vollmer is a big ???  He is often injured and we don't have a top flight OT behind him.  Therefore, I would not be at all shocked if we went with a stud Left Tackle who can back up Solder and possibly start on the right side if we lose Vollmer.  Mankins should be back to form next year and I think Wendell has acquitted himself well this year.  Connolly is back and Nick McDonald is restricted so I don't see us going interior OL. 

     



    Good info.

    I think a lot depends on how they view Cannon moving forward, as Vollmer's backup... I do think they like Sea Bass a lot and would love to have him back, but I wouldn't rule OT out in this draft... particularly Oday Aboushi and Lane Johnson on Day 2. 




    mb, no one saying we dont like him. i love him. if tehy think his back wont hinder his play or games played for his career, of course they keep him.



    I don't see where I said anything about y'all not liking him.

     
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    1st round -€“ Louis Nix*, DT, Notre Dame or Bennie Logan, DT, LSU

    2nd Round -€“ Trade down into an extra 3rd and 5th round picks
    3rd Round - Margus Hunt, DE, SMU (2-3 round)
    3rd round (from trade)- 
    Daniel McCullers*, DT, Tennessee

    4th round (compensatory pick for BJGE and anderson) - Tyrann Mathieu*, CB/S, LSU

    5th round (from trade) - Graham Pocic, C, Illinois

    7th round - Braden Hansen, G, BYU
    7th Round - Ron Powell*, OLB, Florida  or Jake stoneburner, TE, OSU

    UDFA-Zach Boren, FB, Ohio State (also plays ILB)

    Lucas Reed, TE, New Mexico

    Marcus Lattimore*, RB, South Carolina

     
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    let me know what you guys think about my mock. I think it gives us a great combo of D line help, O-line, and DB. plus BB gets the FB he has been looking for who also plays ILB

     
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    1st round -€“ Louis Nix*, DT, Notre Dame or Bennie Logan, DT, LSU

    2nd Round -€“ Trade down into an extra 3rd and 5th round picks
    3rd Round - Margus Hunt, DE, SMU (2-3 round)
    3rd round (from trade)- 
    Daniel McCullers*, DT, Tennessee

    4th round (compensatory pick for BJGE and anderson) - Tyrann Mathieu*, CB/S, LSU

    5th round (from trade) - Graham Pocic, C, Illinois

    7th round - Braden Hansen, G, BYU
    7th Round - Ron Powell*, OLB, Florida  or Jake stoneburner, TE, OSU

    UDFA-Zach Boren, FB, Ohio State (also plays ILB)

    Lucas Reed, TE, New Mexico

    Marcus Lattimore*, RB, South Carolina



    The trade makes sense and I def see them moving down atleast once in this draft... I'd love to see Nix in Foxboro... McCullers is an intriguing cat, though he'll def need to shed some weight... but I like him as a relative project in Rd 3... Hansen/Pocic could be solid finds late in the draft... I think Boren & Lattimore get drafted... I could see Boren coming off the board as an ILB in Rd 3-4 and sometime is gonna pull the trigger on Lattimore.  I could see BB having interest in Mathieu, but prob towards the end of the draft.

     
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    Our defense is what, the 2nd youngest in the NFL?  If we can keep Talib, I actually think we could go offense with at least 2 of our 5 picks.  What happens with Welker, Edelman, Woodhead and Vollmer in the off season could be key to what we do in the draft on the offensive side of the ball.  The Pats appear to be sitting on about $35MM in cap space heading into 2013 before any moves are made according to the below article.

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1399828-new-england-patriots-salary-cap-scenario-heading-into-2013

    Welker could certainly be tagged again.  The cost would be $11.4MM which is still a bargain for a guy with his production if a longer term deal cannot be found.  Re-signing Edelman should be doable and before he got hurt showed what a dangerous and versitale weapon he can be in two phases of the game.  Woodhood could be replaced by Vereen if he becomes too expensive or by Demps.

    To me, Vollmer is a big ???  He is often injured and we don't have a top flight OT behind him.  Therefore, I would not be at all shocked if we went with a stud Left Tackle who can back up Solder and possibly start on the right side if we lose Vollmer.  Mankins should be back to form next year and I think Wendell has acquitted himself well this year.  Connolly is back and Nick McDonald is restricted so I don't see us going interior OL. 

     



    Good info.

    I think a lot depends on how they view Cannon moving forward, as Vollmer's backup... I do think they like Sea Bass a lot and would love to have him back, but I wouldn't rule OT out in this draft... particularly Oday Aboushi and Lane Johnson on Day 2. 




    mb, no one saying we dont like him. i love him. if tehy think his back wont hinder his play or games played for his career, of course they keep him.



    I don't see where I said anything about y'all not liking him.



    i stand corrected then :)

     
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    1st round -€“ Louis Nix*, DT, Notre Dame or Bennie Logan, DT, LSU

    2nd Round -€“ Trade down into an extra 3rd and 5th round picks
    3rd Round - Margus Hunt, DE, SMU (2-3 round)
    3rd round (from trade)- 
    Daniel McCullers*, DT, Tennessee

    4th round (compensatory pick for BJGE and anderson) - Tyrann Mathieu*, CB/S, LSU

    5th round (from trade) - Graham Pocic, C, Illinois

    7th round - Braden Hansen, G, BYU
    7th Round - Ron Powell*, OLB, Florida  or Jake stoneburner, TE, OSU

    UDFA-Zach Boren, FB, Ohio State (also plays ILB)

    Lucas Reed, TE, New Mexico

    Marcus Lattimore*, RB, South Carolina



    The trade makes sense and I def see them moving down atleast once in this draft... I'd love to see Nix in Foxboro... McCullers is an intriguing cat, though he'll def need to shed some weight... but I like him as a relative project in Rd 3... Hanson/Pocic could be solid finds late in the draft... I think Boren & Lattimore get drafted... I could see Boren coming off the board as an ILB in Rd 3-4 and sometime is gonna pull the trigger on Lattimore.  I could see BB having interest in Mathieu, but prob towards the end of the draft.



    nate, thats a lot of a grab. main problem i see not snagging a tall outside wr who can separate.

    nix coming out, isnt that a bit optimistic?

    hunt ive seen ,mocked to us in rd 2. gamble for bottom of rd 3?

    know nothign of pocic. what can you say? ow does he do agaisnt top talent?

    i also considered lattmore after his injury. i have read soome expect him to only drop to rd 2 or 3

     
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    let me know what you guys think about my mock. I think it gives us a great combo of D line help, O-line, and DB. plus BB gets the FB he has been looking for who also plays ILB



    i like it cept for what i mentioned (wr)

    do think it's very optimistic, but likable (with the addittion of a wr).

     
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    let me know what you guys think about my mock. I think it gives us a great combo of D line help, O-line, and DB. plus BB gets the FB he has been looking for who also plays ILB



    i like it cept for what i mentioned (wr)

    do think it's very optimistic, but likable (with the addittion of a wr).




    i think BB is starting to move away from the high priced WR position, TE's are more athletic, and harder to defend.  plus if he resigns welker, endelman, we get demps/stallworth back from IR and we still have lloyd/branch/slater that makes a pretty complimentary set to go with the TE's we have in Ballard, gronk, fells, hernandez, hawamamaui?  if welker walks yes i believe we would need one.  being that we are 35 million under the cap and next season i believe we are required to spend 98% of the cap i could easily see us tag welker.  Hopefully we can bring in Byrd at Safety, let chung and vollmer walk and sign king dunlap RT eagles and Danny Amendola WR rams

     
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    ND NT Louis Nix III to return to school... can't say I'm upset about that!

    This gives ND the best 1/2 DL punch in America next year, coupling Nix with future Top 10 prospect Stephon Tuitt.

    http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8755033/top-notre-dame-irish-linemen-zack-martin-louis-nix-enter-draft

     
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    WVU WR Stedman Bailey to declare:

    http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/17/wvus-leading-wr-will-head-to-the-nfl/

     
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    let me know what you guys think about my mock. I think it gives us a great combo of D line help, O-line, and DB. plus BB gets the FB he has been looking for who also plays ILB



    i like it cept for what i mentioned (wr)

    do think it's very optimistic, but likable (with the addittion of a wr).




    i think BB is starting to move away from the high priced WR position, TE's are more athletic, and harder to defend.  plus if he resigns welker, endelman, we get demps/stallworth back from IR and we still have lloyd/branch/slater that makes a pretty complimentary set to go with the TE's we have in Ballard, gronk, fells, hernandez, hawamamaui?  if welker walks yes i believe we would need one.  being that we are 35 million under the cap and next season i believe we are required to spend 98% of the cap i could easily see us tag welker.  Hopefully we can bring in Byrd at Safety, let chung and vollmer walk and sign king dunlap RT eagles and Danny Amendola WR rams



    i like your plan above, except for a separating outside wr. stallworth does nto hav separating speed. with a meer threat the offense will be infinitely harder to defend when healthy (not theat it is easy now, but can be stopped at times ie sb's). getting a tall quick guy, with hands even to just to run down field (with hands unlike slater), will be enough. so udfa or 7th rd.

     
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    let me know what you guys think about my mock. I think it gives us a great combo of D line help, O-line, and DB. plus BB gets the FB he has been looking for who also plays ILB



    i like it cept for what i mentioned (wr)

    do think it's very optimistic, but likable (with the addittion of a wr).




    i think BB is starting to move away from the high priced WR position, TE's are more athletic, and harder to defend.  plus if he resigns welker, endelman, we get demps/stallworth back from IR and we still have lloyd/branch/slater that makes a pretty complimentary set to go with the TE's we have in Ballard, gronk, fells, hernandez, hawamamaui?  if welker walks yes i believe we would need one.  being that we are 35 million under the cap and next season i believe we are required to spend 98% of the cap i could easily see us tag welker.  Hopefully we can bring in Byrd at Safety, let chung and vollmer walk and sign king dunlap RT eagles and Danny Amendola WR rams



    by the way, after yesterday, the need for a pass rusher/ o line stud highlighted  (dt need i lower a rung below now)

    also an uptick in interest in a shot at lattimore and mathieu in middle rounds

     
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    Size or for that matter, height, doesn't appear to be at a premium with BB/NC when it comes to WR's... they generally target the skill set (good combo of speed/quicks/COD/RAC ability/hands, etc.) and fit for their offense, first.

     
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    i'm liking margus hunt in the first round more and more. if not him then one of the 1st round caliber DT's. hunt would look good across from jones though.



    On the topic of DT's, check out UNC DT Sylvester Williams... he's not a name that's discussed much, but he's a big kid with very good quicks/athleticism for his size, shows power up the field, strength at the POA, the ability to handle the double and has good overall awareness... could be another kid that sneaks into the Top 50/Rd 1, etc.  I like what I've seen from him in his 2012 tape.

    Hunt is a kid with definite Top 64 ability/upside (will prob get discussed as a Rd 1 kid after he has a chance to workout for teams), love the length and athleticism and BB/NC are sure to put value into his ability to impact on ST.  I'd be pretty excited to land him in that range.

     
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    Re: ***2013 Patriots Draft Thread V2***

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    Size or for that matter, height, doesn't appear to be at a premium with BB/NC when it comes to WR's... they generally target the skill set (good combo of speed/quicks/COD/RAC ability/hands, etc.) and fit for their offense, first.



    i agrre they dont.

    idf like to add it to the latter group.

    length is a huge advantage in any pass (and makes a player a greter threat, thus opening other options much more)....and many a pass has been just long for welker, edelman, branch, woody, etc.

     
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    Re: ***2013 Patriots Draft Thread V2***

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    In response to ricky12684's comment:

    i'm liking margus hunt in the first round more and more. if not him then one of the 1st round caliber DT's. hunt would look good across from jones though.



    On the topic of DT's, check out UNC DT Sylvester Williams... he's not a name that's discussed much, but he's a big kid with very good quicks/athleticism for his size, shows power up the field, strength at the POA, the ability to handle the double and has good overall awareness... could be another kid that sneaks into the Top 50/Rd 1, etc.  I like what I've seen from him in his 2012 tape.

    Hunt is a kid with definite Top 64 ability/upside (will prob get discussed as a Rd 1 kid after he has a chance to workout for teams), love the length and athleticism and BB/NC are sure to put value into his ability to impact on ST.  I'd be pretty excited to land him in that range.



    which range mb 64 or rd 1.

    i jsut began seeing him mocked in rd 1, to us in fact.

    as you may have seen, ive moved top c/g and pass rusher abvoe my triumpherant that did inlcvude dt. now i have dt a notch below in priority after recent games.

     
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