***2013 Patriots Draft Thread V2***

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    let me know what you guys think about my mock. I think it gives us a great combo of D line help, O-line, and DB. plus BB gets the FB he has been looking for who also plays ILB



    i like it cept for what i mentioned (wr)

    do think it's very optimistic, but likable (with the addittion of a wr).




    i think BB is starting to move away from the high priced WR position, TE's are more athletic, and harder to defend.  plus if he resigns welker, endelman, we get demps/stallworth back from IR and we still have lloyd/branch/slater that makes a pretty complimentary set to go with the TE's we have in Ballard, gronk, fells, hernandez, hawamamaui?  if welker walks yes i believe we would need one.  being that we are 35 million under the cap and next season i believe we are required to spend 98% of the cap i could easily see us tag welker.  Hopefully we can bring in Byrd at Safety, let chung and vollmer walk and sign king dunlap RT eagles and Danny Amendola WR rams



    by the way, after yesterday, the need for a pass rusher/ o line stud highlighted  (dt need i lower a rung below now)

    also an uptick in interest in a shot at lattimore and mathieu in middle rounds



    where's nate and ramekap

     
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    i'm liking margus hunt in the first round more and more. if not him then one of the 1st round caliber DT's. hunt would look good across from jones though.



    On the topic of DT's, check out UNC DT Sylvester Williams... he's not a name that's discussed much, but he's a big kid with very good quicks/athleticism for his size, shows power up the field, strength at the POA, the ability to handle the double and has good overall awareness... could be another kid that sneaks into the Top 50/Rd 1, etc.  I like what I've seen from him in his 2012 tape.

    Hunt is a kid with definite Top 64 ability/upside (will prob get discussed as a Rd 1 kid after he has a chance to workout for teams), love the length and athleticism and BB/NC are sure to put value into his ability to impact on ST.  I'd be pretty excited to land him in that range.



    which range mb 64 or rd 1.

    i jsut began seeing him mocked in rd 1, to us in fact.

    as you may have seen, ive moved top c/g and pass rusher abvoe my triumpherant that did inlcvude dt. now i have dt a notch below in priority after recent games.



    At this stage I think he's a Top 64 kid that will get some Rd 1 consideration once he's able to work out for teams.

     
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    Below is my updated Big 32 Board Stack... I'll also be adding to the OP:

     

    Rd 1

    DT- Jesse Williams

    *S- Matt Elam

    DE/OLB- Ziggy Ansah

    DE/OLB- Alex Okafor

    OG- Jonathan Cooper

    OL- Barrett Jones

     

    Rd 1-2

    CB- Jordan Poyer

    OLB/DE- Chase Thomas

    S- Kenny Vaccaro

     

    Rd 2

    DT- Sylvester Williams

    WR- Tavon Austin

    WR- Robert Woods

    DE/OLB- Margus Hunt

    OT- Lane Johnson

    LB- Shayne Skov

    OT- Oday Aboushi

     

    Rd 2-3

    *OLB/DE- Trent Murphy

    *CB- Logan Ryan

    OLB/DE- Brandon Jenkins

    S- Phillip Thomas

    S- Robert Lester

    DE/OLB- Tank Carradine

    DT- Daniel McCullers

     

    Rd 3

    WR- Ryan Swope

    S- Zeke Motta

    CB- Terry Hawthorne

    CB- Micah Hyde

    DL- Kapron Lewis-Moore

     

    Rd 7

    WR Chad Bumphis

    DL- Quinton Dial

    WR TJ Moe

    S- John Boyett

     

    * Denotes Underclassmen

     
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    Below is my updated Big 32 Board Stack... I'll also be adding to the OP:

     

    Rd 1

    DT- Jesse Williams

    *S- Matt Elam

    DE/OLB- Ziggy Ansah

    DE/OLB- Alex Okafor

    OG- Jonathan Cooper

    OL- Barrett Jones

     

    Rd 1-2

    CB- Jordan Poyer

    OLB/DE- Chase Thomas

    S- Kenny Vaccaro

     

    Rd 2

    DT- Sylvester Williams

    WR- Tavon Austin

    WR- Robert Woods

    DE/OLB- Margus Hunt

    OT- Lane Johnson

    LB- Shayne Skov

    OT- Oday Aboushi

     

    Rd 2-3

    *OLB/DE- Trent Murphy

    *CB- Logan Ryan

    OLB/DE- Brandon Jenkins

    S- Phillip Thomas

    S- Robert Lester

    DE/OLB- Tank Carradine

    DT- Daniel McCullers

     

    Rd 3

    WR- Ryan Swope

    S- Zeke Motta

    CB- Terry Hawthorne

    CB- Micah Hyde

    DL- Kapron Lewis-Moore

     

    Rd 7

    WR Chad Bumphis

    DL- Quinton Dial

    WR TJ Moe

    S- John Boyett

     

    * Denotes Underclassmen




    Like the List quite a bit. I would have Tony Jefferson FS out of Oklahoma in the group of 1st round players. IMO he is the best Cover 2 Safety of the group. Clicks and closes better than  all the others from a deep position. Kenny Vaccaro is a better overall S due to his man to man coverage ability. If you havent, check out his game vs Ryan Broyles a few years back and also against Tavon Austin this year (Austin was killing it early before they put Vaccaro on him). Cant think of any NFL safeties with the ability to play man against a slot receiver and more than hold their own.

     

    Sean Porter OLB, Texas A&M would also make a good 2nd rounder. Is comfortable in space and can cover RB and TE in man. Is also a very under rated pass rusher who would have ended up with more than 10 sacks in the SEC if they hadnt moved him from DE to 4-3 OLB. This is one of those years I wish we had a bunch of 2nd round picks. A lot of good players to be had in Day 2.

     
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    Below is my updated Big 32 Board Stack... I'll also be adding to the OP:

     

    Rd 1

    DT- Jesse Williams

    *S- Matt Elam

    DE/OLB- Ziggy Ansah

    DE/OLB- Alex Okafor

    OG- Jonathan Cooper

    OL- Barrett Jones

     

    Rd 1-2

    CB- Jordan Poyer

    OLB/DE- Chase Thomas

    S- Kenny Vaccaro

     

    Rd 2

    DT- Sylvester Williams

    WR- Tavon Austin

    WR- Robert Woods

    DE/OLB- Margus Hunt

    OT- Lane Johnson

    LB- Shayne Skov

    OT- Oday Aboushi

     

    Rd 2-3

    *OLB/DE- Trent Murphy

    *CB- Logan Ryan

    OLB/DE- Brandon Jenkins

    S- Phillip Thomas

    S- Robert Lester

    DE/OLB- Tank Carradine

    DT- Daniel McCullers

     

    Rd 3

    WR- Ryan Swope

    S- Zeke Motta

    CB- Terry Hawthorne

    CB- Micah Hyde

    DL- Kapron Lewis-Moore

     

    Rd 7

    WR Chad Bumphis

    DL- Quinton Dial

    WR TJ Moe

    S- John Boyett

     

    * Denotes Underclassmen




    Like the List quite a bit. I would have Tony Jefferson FS out of Oklahoma in the group of 1st round players. IMO he is the best Cover 2 Safety of the group. Clicks and closes better than  all the others from a deep position. Kenny Vaccaro is a better overall S due to his man to man coverage ability. If you havent, check out his game vs Ryan Broyles a few years back and also against Tavon Austin this year (Austin was killing it early before they put Vaccaro on him). Cant think of any NFL safeties with the ability to play man against a slot receiver and more than hold their own.

     

    Sean Porter OLB, Texas A&M would also make a good 2nd rounder. Is comfortable in space and can cover RB and TE in man. Is also a very under rated pass rusher who would have ended up with more than 10 sacks in the SEC if they hadnt moved him from DE to 4-3 OLB. This is one of those years I wish we had a bunch of 2nd round picks. A lot of good players to be had in Day 2.




    Thanks for the feedback, man.  I don't dislike Jefferson, just prefer Elam... kid is one of the best tackling S that I've seen on tape and has a ton of experience in slot/CB coverage duties and I think BB places a high value on hybrid types that can play zone/man as well as the deep half/third, etc. 

    Porter looks like a solid player, I just don't think he fits NE's scheme at only 230 pounds.  Def projects as a very good 43 OLB though.

     
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    pass rushers continue ot rise. nfl's future has jordan and ansah gone by pick 15.

    too many mocks have us taking austin. dont like it.

    glennnon qb nc state is rising to rd 1 in several top mockls already

    still not seeing 4-5 i want to see go in rd 1 yet (obviously its very early)

    barkley yet to rise back up.

     
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    seeing a lot of amerson safety to the pats.

    been rooting for giants to miss the playoffs. just would be fun.

    but now, i dont want them to get ansah so im hoping we play them in the super bowl and torch them (so they dont get a low enough pick to get a top pass rusher)

     
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    finally a mock, nepatsdraft has pats taking ansah at 28.

    would you make that move there?

    http://www.nepatriotsdraft.com/2012/12/2013-nfl-mock-draft-james-christensen-1218.html/2

     

    nepats has ansah and short in first 2 rounds. if that happened and frederick in the 3rd, i could not complain.

     
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    Bowling Green DT Chris Jones 6'1'' 293lbs

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4fQCKf2SxM

    Bowling Green coach Dave Clawson estimates that half of the NFL teams have been to Falcon practices so far this late summer. The other half will be by any day now.

    Scouts are intrigued by a guy who is 6-foot-1, but seems taller; who is 293 pounds, but seems lighter; who plays defensive tackle, but more like a very mobile, agile end.

    Heading into his senior year at BG, Jones has 27 tackles for loss and 15 1/2 sacks. Like we said, those are rush end numbers, maybe an outside linebacker in a blitz-heavy package.

    As a tackle, Jones is about the most disruptive force Clawson has ever seen in the middle of any line.

    He said his fastest time in the 40-yard dash is five-seconds flat.

    "I probably should have said 4.6," he said, laughing. "But there's that speed and then there's game speed. That's when the motor revs up."

    Game speed and strength are his primary assets. Jones' weight-room numbers are staggering -- squat lift, 665 pounds, school record; clean lift, 380 pounds, school record; bench press, 415 pounds; three-lift total, an almost-unheard-of 1,460 pounds, school record.

    "Weight room, practice field … his capacity to work is as good as any player I've ever been around," Clawson said. "And it's every day. There are guys who have the capacity to work but maybe not great talent, there are talented players who don't have that capacity to work, and then there are a select few players like Chris who are a combination of the two. It's what separates him."

    http://www.toledoblade.com/DaveHackenberg/2012/08/27/Disruptive-describes-BG-s-Jones.html



    "almost-unheard-of 1,460 pounds, school record."

    almost unheard of, really? that is light for a guy that big. very light.

    im sure the guy is strong but a triple lift total of 1460 for a near 300 pound guy is nothinig to brag about.

     that said, hearing the description of the  football performance, id love to see some film against a top o line

     
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    Bowling Green DT Chris Jones 6'1'' 293lbs

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4fQCKf2SxM

    Bowling Green coach Dave Clawson estimates that half of the NFL teams have been to Falcon practices so far this late summer. The other half will be by any day now.

    Scouts are intrigued by a guy who is 6-foot-1, but seems taller; who is 293 pounds, but seems lighter; who plays defensive tackle, but more like a very mobile, agile end.

    Heading into his senior year at BG, Jones has 27 tackles for loss and 15 1/2 sacks. Like we said, those are rush end numbers, maybe an outside linebacker in a blitz-heavy package.

    As a tackle, Jones is about the most disruptive force Clawson has ever seen in the middle of any line.

    He said his fastest time in the 40-yard dash is five-seconds flat.

    "I probably should have said 4.6," he said, laughing. "But there's that speed and then there's game speed. That's when the motor revs up."

    Game speed and strength are his primary assets. Jones' weight-room numbers are staggering -- squat lift, 665 pounds, school record; clean lift, 380 pounds, school record; bench press, 415 pounds; three-lift total, an almost-unheard-of 1,460 pounds, school record.

    "Weight room, practice field … his capacity to work is as good as any player I've ever been around," Clawson said. "And it's every day. There are guys who have the capacity to work but maybe not great talent, there are talented players who don't have that capacity to work, and then there are a select few players like Chris who are a combination of the two. It's what separates him."

    http://www.toledoblade.com/DaveHackenberg/2012/08/27/Disruptive-describes-BG-s-Jones.html



    This guy is too small for BB.  He doesn't take D under 6'3" and 300 lbs.  He sounds like an intriguing find though, maybe if he is available in the later rounds.

     
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    Bowling Green DT Chris Jones 6'1'' 293lbs

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4fQCKf2SxM

    Bowling Green coach Dave Clawson estimates that half of the NFL teams have been to Falcon practices so far this late summer. The other half will be by any day now.

    Scouts are intrigued by a guy who is 6-foot-1, but seems taller; who is 293 pounds, but seems lighter; who plays defensive tackle, but more like a very mobile, agile end.

    Heading into his senior year at BG, Jones has 27 tackles for loss and 15 1/2 sacks. Like we said, those are rush end numbers, maybe an outside linebacker in a blitz-heavy package.

    As a tackle, Jones is about the most disruptive force Clawson has ever seen in the middle of any line.

    He said his fastest time in the 40-yard dash is five-seconds flat.

    "I probably should have said 4.6," he said, laughing. "But there's that speed and then there's game speed. That's when the motor revs up."

    Game speed and strength are his primary assets. Jones' weight-room numbers are staggering -- squat lift, 665 pounds, school record; clean lift, 380 pounds, school record; bench press, 415 pounds; three-lift total, an almost-unheard-of 1,460 pounds, school record.

    "Weight room, practice field … his capacity to work is as good as any player I've ever been around," Clawson said. "And it's every day. There are guys who have the capacity to work but maybe not great talent, there are talented players who don't have that capacity to work, and then there are a select few players like Chris who are a combination of the two. It's what separates him."

    http://www.toledoblade.com/DaveHackenberg/2012/08/27/Disruptive-describes-BG-s-Jones.html



    Curious to see if he'll perform LB drills at the combine.  Kid doesn't project as a good fit for NE's scheme as a tackle, unless they're able to scoop him up in the late rounds as a sub-package type, but might be intriguing as a "Jumbo" OLB/Rush end... though the length certainly isn't there.

     

     
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    finally a mock, nepatsdraft has pats taking ansah at 28.

    would you make that move there?

    http://www.nepatriotsdraft.com/2012/12/2013-nfl-mock-draft-james-christensen-1218.html/2

     

    nepats has ansah and short in first 2 rounds. if that happened and frederick in the 3rd, i could not complain.



    I have a few players higher on my board, but would be happy with Ansah in Rd 1, yes.

    Would be happy with any of the following:

     

    DT- Jesse Williams

    S- Matt Elam

    DE/OLB- Ziggy Ansah

    DE/OLB- Alex Okafor

    OG- Jonathan Cooper

    OL- Barrett Jones

     
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    finally a mock, nepatsdraft has pats taking ansah at 28.

    would you make that move there?

    http://www.nepatriotsdraft.com/2012/12/2013-nfl-mock-draft-james-christensen-1218.html/2

     

    nepats has ansah and short in first 2 rounds. if that happened and frederick in the 3rd, i could not complain.



    I have a few players higher on my board, but would be happy with Ansah in Rd 1, yes.

    Would be happy with any of the following:

     

    DT- Jesse Williams

    S- Matt Elam

    DE/OLB- Ziggy Ansah

    DE/OLB- Alex Okafor

    OG- Jonathan Cooper

    OL- Barrett Jones



    why cooper, why not the greater versatility of jones.

    said youd be happy with that in 1; what about the 2 nd 3 in that mock

     
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    finally a mock, nepatsdraft has pats taking ansah at 28.

    would you make that move there?

    http://www.nepatriotsdraft.com/2012/12/2013-nfl-mock-draft-james-christensen-1218.html/2

     

    nepats has ansah and short in first 2 rounds. if that happened and frederick in the 3rd, i could not complain.



    I have a few players higher on my board, but would be happy with Ansah in Rd 1, yes.

    Would be happy with any of the following:

     

    DT- Jesse Williams

    S- Matt Elam

    DE/OLB- Ziggy Ansah

    DE/OLB- Alex Okafor

    OG- Jonathan Cooper

    OL- Barrett Jones



    why cooper, why not the greater versatility of jones.

    said youd be happy with that in 1; what about the 2 nd 3 in that mock



    Not sure what you're asking, I said I'd be happy with any of the (6) above.

    I'd take Elam over Short (too many questions about this kid's motor) on that mock board... didn't see a Rd 3.

     
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    Smith for the Vikings is quietly having a very good year. I read his stats every week, and he is always at the top in tackles, especially unassisted ones. Just what a Safety is suppose to do. Last week he had 10 tackles, 9 unassisted. You could see a good Football Player.




    Certainly is... I think many were underrating him last year and chalking it up to a "weak safety class"... I think this kid would be getting Rd 1 consideration in this class as well as he has everything you want in a safety... size/speed/movement ability/intelligence/physicality/versatility, etc...

     
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    Happy Thursday, my first day of Christmas vaca!

    Below are a 10 random 2013 Draft thoughts:

    1.  UNC OG Jonathan Cooper is the best player that no one is talking about and I'm considering moving him up to my Top 3 Rd 1 options on my next board stack.  He was one of the more enjoyable players to watch on tape (hope to see more) and that says a lot coming form an OG.  Very good size, excellent feet and balance, uses his hands/punches well, easily gets to the 2nd level to take defenders out and caves/walls/mirrors his man on almost every play… a very good finisher.  He's also excellent pulling and in space... makes the game look very easy, IMO.

    2.  Production doesn’t meet reputation… for all the talk about Barkevious Mingo being a top 10-15 pick, this kid only has 4 sacks and 5.5 TFL this season.

    3.  My biggest 180 from previous years... I actually like (2) UNC players and (1) USC kid... part of that is a new HC in Chapel Hill that really has those kids playing well.

    4.  Two players that are awesome fits for what NE likes to do offensively, but likely won’t be targeted due to projected team depth:  1. ND TE Tyler Eifert and Alabama RB Eddie Lacy.  Eifert is that big, long versatile TE that can impact flexed out or inline while Lacy is just a big, athletic banger of a tailback.

    5.  Two defensive player that don’t have ideal size, but project as very good NFL players... BYU OLB Kyle Van Noy 6-3 235 (only a junior),  Rutgers OLB Khaseem Greene 6-1 230.

    6.  Biggest fall from grace… NC St CB David Amerson.  Was projected as a potential Top 10 pick after last years monster campaign where he generated 13 INT… but this year, while still generating 5 INT’s had some rough games, particularly vs. Tenn that saw him getting beat quite often.  Now, the kid still has a good combo of size and athleticism and looks like a good kid off the field, but he’s gone from Top 10 to prob late Day 2 and there have been talks about a move to S.

    7.  Positions that project the most talent and depth in this class?  CB/S/long DE/OLB hybrids.

    8.  Positions that project the least talent/depth in this class?  C/OG, which could make landing a kid on Cooper or Barrett Jones in Rd 1 a real value.  

    9.  “Pop Player”… a player that I’d never heard of that “Popped” while watching tape on other players.  BYU CB Preston Hadley (6-0 200)… I was watching tape of Ziggy Ansah and Kyle Van Noy and this kid caught my eye… good size, moves well, very aggressive, always seems to be around the action… could be a decent late round find for some team.

    10.  Player with the coolest name… it’s prob between ND LB Manti Te’o, Utah DT Star Lotulelei, FSU DE Tank Carradine (Cornellius), Oregon LB Kiko Alonso, Iowa State QB Steele Jantz, or WVU WR Stedman Bailey.

    Bonus:

    Player with the funniest name, St Augustine WR Tyron Laughinghouse (this is his real name).

     

     

     
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    There's either a lot less interest in the draft this year, or the changes to the board features have driven a lot of the regulars away.  Either way, bummer.

     
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    finally a mock, nepatsdraft has pats taking ansah at 28.

    would you make that move there?

    http://www.nepatriotsdraft.com/2012/12/2013-nfl-mock-draft-james-christensen-1218.html/2

     

    nepats has ansah and short in first 2 rounds. if that happened and frederick in the 3rd, i could not complain.



    I have a few players higher on my board, but would be happy with Ansah in Rd 1, yes.

    Would be happy with any of the following:

     

    DT- Jesse Williams

    S- Matt Elam

    DE/OLB- Ziggy Ansah

    DE/OLB- Alex Okafor

    OG- Jonathan Cooper

    OL- Barrett Jones



    why cooper, why not the greater versatility of jones.

    said youd be happy with that in 1; what about the 2 nd 3 in that mock



    Not sure what you're asking, I said I'd be happy with any of the (6) above.

    I'd take Elam over Short (too many questions about this kid's motor) on that mock board... didn't see a Rd 3.



    i posted thier picks  in 1, 2 and 3. wondered if you thought thsoe picks were good.

    thanks for your thouughts above

     
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    finally a mock, nepatsdraft has pats taking ansah at 28.

    would you make that move there?

    http://www.nepatriotsdraft.com/2012/12/2013-nfl-mock-draft-james-christensen-1218.html/2

     

    nepats has ansah and short in first 2 rounds. if that happened and frederick in the 3rd, i could not complain.



    I have a few players higher on my board, but would be happy with Ansah in Rd 1, yes.

    Would be happy with any of the following:

     

    DT- Jesse Williams

    S- Matt Elam

    DE/OLB- Ziggy Ansah

    DE/OLB- Alex Okafor

    OG- Jonathan Cooper

    OL- Barrett Jones



    why cooper, why not the greater versatility of jones.

    said youd be happy with that in 1; what about the 2 nd 3 in that mock



    Not sure what you're asking, I said I'd be happy with any of the (6) above.

    I'd take Elam over Short (too many questions about this kid's motor) on that mock board... didn't see a Rd 3.



    i posted thier picks  in 1, 2 and 3. wondered if you thought thsoe picks were good.

    thanks for your thouughts above



    Curious to see if Travis Frederick will declare as he's currently rated by NFL Draft Scout as the #1 C for the 2014 class.  I'm not able to find any 2012 tape on him, but reports are positive... big road grader type... could be one of, if not the heaviest C in the NFL at 338 pounds.

     
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    So I've posted my board, I'm curious of everyone's Top 10 (or how ever many you have) offensive and defensive players for Day's 1 and 2 of the 2013 draft?

     
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    So I've posted my board, I'm curious of everyone's Top 10 (or how ever many you have) offensive and defensive players for Day's 1 and 2 of the 2013 draft?



    Always changing when I get more info on players but with NE picking from 26-32  in the first and 58-64 in the second, I have the following list (players I think will be still available) in those ranges irregardless of position or NE team need:

    1st Rd 26-32

          Xavier Rhodes Florida State CB Jordan Poyer Oregon State CB David Amerson North Carolina St CB Ezekiel Ansah Brigham Young DE43       Sharrif Floyd Florida DT43 Sylvester Williams North Carolina DT43 Jesse Williams Alabama DT34 Eric Reid LSU FS Arthur Brown Kansas State OLB43 Matt Barkley USC QB Tyler Wilson Arkansas QB Landry Jones Oklahoma QB Giovani Bernard North Carolina RBF D.J. Fluker Alabama ROT Jake Matthews Texas A&M ROT Alec Ogletree Georgia SILB Tyler Eifert Notre Dame TE DeAndre Hopkins Clemson WR Robert Woods USC WR Justin Hunter Tennessee WR

    2nd round 58-64

    Lane Johnson Oklahoma LOT John Simon Ohio State DE43 Cyril Richardson Baylor OG Kevin Minter LSU SILB Andre Ellington Clemson RBC Desmond Trufant Washington CB Larry Warford Kentucky OG Margus Hunt SMU DE34 Stepfan Taylor Stanford RBF Oday Aboushi Virginia ROT Aaron Dobson Marshall WRP Kawann Short Purdue DT43 Tyler Bray Tennessee QB Khaseem Greene Rutgers OLB43 Phillip Thomas Fresno State SS Robert Lester Alabama SS
     
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    Re: ***2013 Patriots Draft Thread V2***

    Mine is pretty short. Going strictly with who I consider Best Players Available without getting too much into team needs besides obvious positions such as QB and TE. I would be content with any 2 of these in Rounds 1 and 2.

    Round 1:

    Robert Woods - WR USC (Most pro ready receiver I have seen in a while)

    Ziggy Ansah - DE BYU

    Margus Hunt - DE SMU

    Jonathan Cooper - OG UNC

    Round 2:

    Jesse Williams - DT Alabama

    Leon McFadden - CB SDSU

    Blidi Wreh-Wilson   - CB Connecticut

    Logan Ryan - CB Rutgers

    Sean Porter - OLB Texas A&M. (Good 4-3 Pats OLB and rusher in Sub packages)

    Tony Jefferson - S Oklahoma

    DJ Swearinger - SS South Carolina

    Phillip Thomas - S Fresno State

    Travis Frederick - OG/OC Wisconsin

    Kyle Van Noy - LB BYU

    Tavon Austin - WR WVU

    Matt Elam - SS Florida

     

     

     
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    Re: ***2013 Patriots Draft Thread V2***

    In response to jjdbrasil's comment:

    In response to mbeaulieu07's comment:

    So I've posted my board, I'm curious of everyone's Top 10 (or how ever many you have) offensive and defensive players for Day's 1 and 2 of the 2013 draft?



    Always changing when I get more info on players but with NE picking from 26-32  in the first and 58-64 in the second, I have the following list (players I think will be still available) in those ranges irregardless of position or NE team need:

    1st Rd 26-32

          Xavier Rhodes Florida State CB Jordan Poyer Oregon State CB David Amerson North Carolina St CB Ezekiel Ansah Brigham Young DE43       Sharrif Floyd Florida DT43 Sylvester Williams North Carolina DT43 Jesse Williams Alabama DT34 Eric Reid LSU FS Arthur Brown Kansas State OLB43 Matt Barkley USC QB Tyler Wilson Arkansas QB Landry Jones Oklahoma QB Giovani Bernard North Carolina RBF D.J. Fluker Alabama ROT Jake Matthews Texas A&M ROT Alec Ogletree Georgia SILB Tyler Eifert Notre Dame TE DeAndre Hopkins Clemson WR Robert Woods USC WR Justin Hunter Tennessee WR

    2nd round 58-64

    Lane Johnson Oklahoma LOT John Simon Ohio State DE43 Cyril Richardson Baylor OG Kevin Minter LSU SILB Andre Ellington Clemson RBC Desmond Trufant Washington CB Larry Warford Kentucky OG Margus Hunt SMU DE34 Stepfan Taylor Stanford RBF Oday Aboushi Virginia ROT Aaron Dobson Marshall WRP Kawann Short Purdue DT43 Tyler Bray Tennessee QB Khaseem Greene Rutgers OLB43 Phillip Thomas Fresno State SS Robert Lester Alabama SS




    Nice, any of those kids in particular that are high on your want list?

     
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