***2013 Patriots Draft Thread V2***

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    Was watching a lot of tape today and wanted to bring a new name into the discussion that I feel would be very high on BB/NC's board if he declares.

    Ohio State CB Bradley Roby (5-11 190) is only a RS Soph, but this kid looks like a very, very good prospect already.

    What stood out to me most were his elite ball skills... whether in zone or man, he always seems to be attacking the football in the air, as evident by his 19 PD/17 PBU this season.  He puts himself in good position to make plays down the field and shows solid awareness/closing ability in zone.  Good physicality for his size (5-11 190), more than willing in run support, attacks the LOS and limits YAC well... also gives a solid effort in pursuit and has value on ST.  Overall, he looks to be a solid fit for what BB looks for in a CB prospect... good speed/quicks, good awarenes, scheme diverse and tackles well... plus the Urban/Vrabel connection would have pleny of influence.  If he declares, I could see him as a Top 50 kid with legit Rd 1 upside, who would be at or near the top of my CB/Draft Board.



    i think the league cbs need to get tall, big and strong while still being quick and fast. see sheerman/browner. give me rhodes.



    I'm not opposed to Rhodes, have him on the cusp of the Big 32 board.

     
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    BYU LB Kyle Van Noy to return for his senior season... would love to see this kid get upto 245+, awesome football player.

    http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/31/kyle-van-noy-coming-back-to-byu-for-senior-season/

     
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    Rugters CB Logan Ryan will declare for the draft... like this kid a lot, currently the #2 CB on my Big 32 board.  Get's his hands on a ton of footballs (17 PBU / 21 PD this year, 13/16 last year) and I'd expect both NE and Tampa Bay to have interest in this kid.

    http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/31/rutgers-cb-logan-ryan-answers-nfl-call/

     
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    Looks like Gator S Matt Elam is leaning towards declaring per his HS coach... best S in this draft, IMO.

    http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/30/hs-coach-elam-leaving-gators-for-nfl/

     
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    Anyone mention Margus Hunt, DE out of SMU yet?  I went back a few pages and didn't see him talked about.  He had a monster game in the Hawaii Bowl.  Red Shirt Senior from Estona, great size, 6-7, 280 with an 82 inch wing span.  He forced two fumbles and had a safety causing sack.  He might be an excellent book end with Chandler Jones.    CBS Sports named him the #1 Freak in College Football.

     

    Have to say after today's game, I think we are pretty well stocked on the D line with a lot of young talent.  Deaderick looked good, Francis was amazing.  Of course with Jones, Vince and Love, we may pass on the DL altogether. 


    I still think we are weak at SS and could perhaps use a faster MLB.  If we get Talib back I think he and Dennard could be the answer with McCourty moving to FS and hopefully Dowling being in the mix.


    Today, my priorities would be SS, MLB then something on offense, a WR perhaps.

     

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    yeah i have been all over hunt since the beginning of the season.  Dude is a beast and would look great opposite  of chandler jones.

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    nate ive been talking about him ever since. have you read my posts?

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    hey faucet, hard to find where your reply was since it was not at bottom.

    i agree with the safety need, but i say we get one of tghe top safetyies avail in fa.

    in my mind we still need pass rusher opp jones. if we have a front who can pass rush wihtout blitzing we are much better.

    agree about need for a faster lb and wr.

    so i try to get safety, pass rusher and maybe even lb in free agency

    if get pass rusher, i like a big tough cb a la seattle seahawks (rhodes).

    one of the top big wrs in 2nd

    and c/g (frederick) in 3rd.

    i move up wiht 2013 picks if need be for players we need for those roles.

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    Hi Bredbru,

    F/A is always a mystery when it comes to the Pats.  We seldom make a major splash.  The last one I recall was Thomas in '07.  We do however, find some undervalued gems from time to time. 

    Specifically speaking team needs, I agree a stud DE opposite Jones would be nice, I just think we would be amazingly lucky to find one in our draft spot.  Keep in mind, Ninko had more sacks then Jones and he played well in terms of forced fumbles etc but I don't think he's a marquis player.  But we have a lot of DE options on the roster with Jones, Ninko, Cunningham, Francis, and Scott plus our interior pressure has been solid.  Our defense as a whole is improved up from #31 to #25.  But in terms of sacks we remain pretty poor ranked #27 with 27.  This should improve with Jones having a year under his belt, etc.  Again, if we can get a pass rusher at the bottom of the 1st, great, but I wouldn't count on it.

    The weakness of our defense remains the secondary.  We still give up too many big plays.  When we were in man with Talib and Dennard, we seemed better than when in zone.  McCourty sure looks like he belongs at S and I think Chung is likely to walk.  This leaves Greggory, Wilson and the rugby player and none appear elite.  To Mb's point, if Elam comes out and is there, he would be an excellent addition.  What's the word on LSU's Eric Reid?  Is he rumored to be coming out?

    Hard to argue about going after one of the big WRs in the 2nd and going interior OL in the 3rd if we get a S in the first.  But, it would not shock me to see BB take a TE if Eifert or Ertz come out and one is on the board.  Look at how much juggling BB did at the start of the season trying to find that #3 and #4 TE. 

    We really don't have many holes and the ones we do have should get better with young players maturing.  With Gronk and Hern only being on the field 4-5 times together all season, a top notch TE isn't out of the question either given the emphasis we place on the position.

     

     
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    1st round pick should be S - Vaccaro - Texas.  Can can cover. plays in the box and hits 

    like a truck.  Unless BB spends some of the 35mil on a safety.( Tom's cap number

    Is around 20mil so a restructure could give anther 5-10mil).

    Or Margus Hunt-this guy is a player who reminds me of JPP / Watt.     Him , Francis and Jones with Vince and Love and our DL would be set. 

     

    hey looney,
    agree we need safety and pass rusher and  i prefer to try to get tehm in fa. get wr, c/g, big cb in draft

     
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    Was watching a lot of tape today and wanted to bring a new name into the discussion that I feel would be very high on BB/NC's board if he declares.

    Ohio State CB Bradley Roby (5-11 190) is only a RS Soph, but this kid looks like a very, very good prospect already.

    What stood out to me most were his elite ball skills... whether in zone or man, he always seems to be attacking the football in the air, as evident by his 19 PD/17 PBU this season.  He puts himself in good position to make plays down the field and shows solid awareness/closing ability in zone.  Good physicality for his size (5-11 190), more than willing in run support, attacks the LOS and limits YAC well... also gives a solid effort in pursuit and has value on ST.  Overall, he looks to be a solid fit for what BB looks for in a CB prospect... good speed/quicks, good awarenes, scheme diverse and tackles well... plus the Urban/Vrabel connection would have pleny of influence.  If he declares, I could see him as a Top 50 kid with legit Rd 1 upside, who would be at or near the top of my CB/Draft Board.



    i think the league cbs need to get tall, big and strong while still being quick and fast. see sheerman/browner. give me rhodes.



    I'm not opposed to Rhodes, have him on the cusp of the Big 32 board.



    hear ya

     
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    Anyone mention Margus Hunt, DE out of SMU yet?  I went back a few pages and didn't see him talked about.  He had a monster game in the Hawaii Bowl.  Red Shirt Senior from Estona, great size, 6-7, 280 with an 82 inch wing span.  He forced two fumbles and had a safety causing sack.  He might be an excellent book end with Chandler Jones.    CBS Sports named him the #1 Freak in College Football.

     

    Have to say after today's game, I think we are pretty well stocked on the D line with a lot of young talent.  Deaderick looked good, Francis was amazing.  Of course with Jones, Vince and Love, we may pass on the DL altogether. 


    I still think we are weak at SS and could perhaps use a faster MLB.  If we get Talib back I think he and Dennard could be the answer with McCourty moving to FS and hopefully Dowling being in the mix.


    Today, my priorities would be SS, MLB then something on offense, a WR perhaps.

     



    yeah i have been all over hunt since the beginning of the season.  Dude is a beast and would look great opposite  of chandler jones.



    nate ive been talking about him ever since. have you read my posts?






hey faucet, hard to find where your reply was since it was not at bottom.

i agree with the safety need, but i say we get one of tghe top safetyies avail in fa.

in my mind we still need pass rusher opp jones. if we have a front who can pass rush wihtout blitzing we are much better.

agree about need for a faster lb and wr.

so i try to get safety, pass rusher and maybe even lb in free agency

if get pass rusher, i like a big tough cb a la seattle seahawks (rhodes).

one of the top big wrs in 2nd

and c/g (frederick) in 3rd.

i move up wiht 2013 picks if need be for players we need for those roles.


Hi Bredbru,

F/A is always a mystery when it comes to the Pats.  We seldom make a major splash.  The last one I recall was Thomas in '07.  We do however, find some undervalued gems from time to time. 

Specifically speaking team needs, I agree a stud DE opposite Jones would be nice, I just think we would be amazingly lucky to find one in our draft spot.  Keep in mind, Ninko had more sacks then Jones and he played well in terms of forced fumbles etc but I don't think he's a marquis player.  But we have a lot of DE options on the roster with Jones, Ninko, Cunningham, Francis, and Scott plus our interior pressure has been solid.  Our defense as a whole is improved up from #31 to #25.  But in terms of sacks we remain pretty poor ranked #27 with 27.  This should improve with Jones having a year under his belt, etc.  Again, if we can get a pass rusher at the bottom of the 1st, great, but I wouldn't count on it.

The weakness of our defense remains the secondary.  We still give up too many big plays.  When we were in man with Talib and Dennard, we seemed better than when in zone.  McCourty sure looks like he belongs at S and I think Chung is likely to walk.  This leaves Greggory, Wilson and the rugby player and none appear elite.  To Mb's point, if Elam comes out and is there, he would be an excellent addition.  What's the word on LSU's Eric Reid?  Is he rumored to be coming out?

Hard to argue about going after one of the big WRs in the 2nd and going interior OL in the 3rd if we get a S in the first.  But, it would not shock me to see BB take a TE if Eifert or Ertz come out and one is on the board.  Look at how much juggling BB did at the start of the season trying to find that #3 and #4 TE. 

We really don't have many holes and the ones we do have should get better with young players maturing.  With Gronk and Hern only being on the field 4-5 times together all season, a top notch TE isn't out of the question either given the emphasis we place on the position.

 



hey faucet, in agreemtn on safety need and not likely ot get a pass rusher at bottom of first.

thats why i would like a safety and pass rusher in fa. 

if we didnt get that, i can see your scenario above. or maybe not doing the wr in 2nd. (safety cb, c/g or safety, de, c/g

if we do get safety and pass rusher in fa,

the big cb, big outside wr, and c/g is the focus.

 

 
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    Anybody has a read on Amerson. He's one of the taller CBs in college.

    I tried watching their bowl against Vanderbilt. I only saw the Vand QB throw to his man once. He did not preven the reception but was close enough so there was no yac. I guess I could take that lack of throws in his direction as indication he had good cover on his man so the opposing QB could not throw in his direction. 

     
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    1st round pick should be S - Vaccaro - Texas.  Can can cover. plays in the box and hits 

    like a truck.  Unless BB spends some of the 35mil on a safety.( Tom's cap number

    Is around 20mil so a restructure could give anther 5-10mil).

    Or Margus Hunt-this guy is a player who reminds me of JPP / Watt.     Him , Francis and Jones with Vince and Love and our DL would be set. 

     

    hey looney,
    agree we need safety and pass rusher and  i prefer to try to get tehm in fa. get wr, c/g, big cb in draft



    In FA I say look at Freeny  and Reed an 2 year deals. If Barwin is set free

    look at him as a big time addition. 

     
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    1st round pick should be S - Vaccaro - Texas.  Can can cover. plays in the box and hits 

    like a truck.  Unless BB spends some of the 35mil on a safety.( Tom's cap number

    Is around 20mil so a restructure could give anther 5-10mil).

    Or Margus Hunt-this guy is a player who reminds me of JPP / Watt.     Him , Francis and Jones with Vince and Love and our DL would be set. 

     

    hey looney,
    agree we need safety and pass rusher and  i prefer to try to get tehm in fa. get wr, c/g, big cb in draft



    In FA I say look at Freeny  and Reed an 2 year deals. If Barwin is set free

    look at him as a big time addition. 



    long lsit of pass rushers avail. i dont know if freeney wants to leave. they are on upswing. we'll see. reed is a bit long in the tooth i think.

     
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    Anybody has a read on Amerson. He's one of the taller CBs in college.

    I tried watching their bowl against Vanderbilt. I only saw the Vand QB throw to his man once. He did not preven the reception but was close enough so there was no yac. I guess I could take that lack of throws in his direction as indication he had good cover on his man so the opposing QB could not throw in his direction. 



    sea, i read he may have to switch to safety in nfl.

    rhodes is teh biggest of the top perfrmers i see at cb 6 2" 217

     
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    Anybody has a read on Amerson. He's one of the taller CBs in college.

    I tried watching their bowl against Vanderbilt. I only saw the Vand QB throw to his man once. He did not preven the reception but was close enough so there was no yac. I guess I could take that lack of throws in his direction as indication he had good cover on his man so the opposing QB could not throw in his direction. 



    Amerson is a kid that I'm trying to like and while he had another decent year statistically 11 PBU/ 17 PD, he got beat quite a bit this year and was completely shredded vs. Tenn.  I haven't seen a lot of good tape 2012 on him... but I do like his size and he appears to be a solid kid off the field.

     
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    USC WR Robert Woods to declare for the 2013 draft:

    http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/31/robert-woods-declares-for-the-nfl-draft/

     
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    Clemson's DeAndre Hopkins is now the top WR on my board (assuming he declares).  Started watching some film on him this week, have him added to the next version of my Big 32 Board.

    Good size (6-1 200)/speed combo, kid can seperate, hands catcher with good ball skills, sudden with good COD/RAC ability and has proven that he can be the #1 guy... really passed a big test vs. LSU last night, shredding them for 13-191-2, one of which going for a TD wit 2:47 remaining in the game... he also caught a 26 yard pass on 4th and 16 with 1:39 left on the clock to extend their game winning drive.  Kid was money.

     
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    Based on the below mock, Rob Rang is the smartest draft analyst out there ;)

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/nfldraftscout-RobRang

     
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    Clemson's DeAndre Hopkins is now the top WR on my board (assuming he declares).  Started watching some film on him this week, have him added to the next version of my Big 32 Board.

    Good size (6-1 200)/speed combo, kid can seperate, hands catcher with good ball skills, sudden with good COD/RAC ability and has proven that he can be the #1 guy... really passed a big test vs. LSU last night, shredding them for 13-191-2, one of which going for a TD wit 2:47 remaining in the game... he also caught a 26 yard pass on 4th and 16 with 1:39 left on the clock to extend their game winning drive.  Kid was money.



    yes mb, he was on my "board" you asked me to make (see above :)

     
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    Based on the below mock, Rob Rang is the smartest draft analyst out there ;)

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/nfldraftscout-RobRang



    becasue he gives you elam :)

    i like the vet fs and pass rusher (so many avail this year) and get players you cant get in fa thru draft.

    ie rhodes, hopkins, (et al), frrederick

     
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    What's up everybody?  Happy New Year to all!  I have had trouble getting into draft-mode so far this season.  Busy as hell, and the excitement of the season itself has kept me occupied.  Based on what little research I've done, this seems like an excellent year to trade back into the 2nd round.  I really like a lot of the fringe 1st/2nd round guys like Elam, Rhodes, Hopkins, Vaccaro, just to name a few.  Looks like there will be value in those mid 2nd round picks this year, much more so than last year, anyway.  Have fun watching the games today, and I'll look forward to getting more involved with this discussion soon!

     
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    Based on the below mock, Rob Rang is the smartest draft analyst out there ;)

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/nfldraftscout-RobRang



    becasue he gives you elam :)

    i like the vet fs and pass rusher (so many avail this year) and get players you cant get in fa thru draft.

    ie rhodes, hopkins, (et al), frrederick



    Yep, guy is a genius and knows good football talent when he sees it, ha. 

    I'll def be adjusting my board once we have a better idea of how BB/NC will address the roster via FA... until then, I'll just continue to identify players that I think are the best fits for the team. 

     
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    What's up everybody?  Happy New Year to all!  I have had trouble getting into draft-mode so far this season.  Busy as hell, and the excitement of the season itself has kept me occupied.  Based on what little research I've done, this seems like an excellent year to trade back into the 2nd round.  I really like a lot of the fringe 1st/2nd round guys like Elam, Rhodes, Hopkins, Vaccaro, just to name a few.  Looks like there will be value in those mid 2nd round picks this year, much more so than last year, anyway.  Have fun watching the games today, and I'll look forward to getting more involved with this discussion soon!



    Happy New Years, Wazz... hopefully this thread heats up as we get more into prime draft talk season (i.e. the end of the college/pro football seasons and the start of the college all-star games, combine, pro-days, etc). 

     

     
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    In response to mbeaulieu07's comment:

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    Based on the below mock, Rob Rang is the smartest draft analyst out there ;)

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/nfldraftscout-RobRang



    becasue he gives you elam :)

    i like the vet fs and pass rusher (so many avail this year) and get players you cant get in fa thru draft.

    ie rhodes, hopkins, (et al), frrederick



    Yep, guy is a genius and knows good football talent when he sees it, ha. 

    I'll def be adjusting my board once we have a better idea of how BB/NC will address the roster via FA... until then, I'll just continue to identify players that I think are the best fits for the team. 



    Yep, guy is a genius and knows good football talent when he sees it, ha. 

    re:

    "talent is there for sure."

     

    i guess rang finally read our thread and found out what was up! :)

     

    re:

    "I'll def be adjusting my board once we have a better idea of how BB/NC will address the roster via FA... until then, I'll just continue to identify players that I think are the best fits for the team." 

     

    i get ya.

    if bb fails to get a pass rusher or safety in fa

    id go rambo in the 3rd

    frederick in the 2nd

    in first id look and see if ansah is avail first, if not see if i want to go pass rusher here anyway

     

    or if ansah gone could go c/g first ie barret, pass rusher in 2 (any # of 3-4 guys), rambo in 3.

     

    ps, you didnt say, had you seen my board including receivers with hopkins in there

     
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    In response to bredbru's comment:

    In response to mbeaulieu07's comment:

    In response to bredbru's comment:

    In response to mbeaulieu07's comment:

    Based on the below mock, Rob Rang is the smartest draft analyst out there ;)

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/nfldraftscout-RobRang



    becasue he gives you elam :)

    i like the vet fs and pass rusher (so many avail this year) and get players you cant get in fa thru draft.

    ie rhodes, hopkins, (et al), frrederick



    Yep, guy is a genius and knows good football talent when he sees it, ha. 

    I'll def be adjusting my board once we have a better idea of how BB/NC will address the roster via FA... until then, I'll just continue to identify players that I think are the best fits for the team. 



    Yep, guy is a genius and knows good football talent when he sees it, ha. 

    re:

    "talent is there for sure."

     

    i guess rang finally read our thread and found out what was up! :)

     

    re:

    "I'll def be adjusting my board once we have a better idea of how BB/NC will address the roster via FA... until then, I'll just continue to identify players that I think are the best fits for the team." 

     

    i get ya.

    if bb fails to get a pass rusher or safety in fa

    id go rambo in the 3rd

    frederick in the 2nd

    in first id look and see if ansah is avail first, if not see if i want to go pass rusher here anyway

     

    or if ansah gone could go c/g first ie barret, pass rusher in 2 (any # of 3-4 guys), rambo in 3.

     

    ps, you didnt say, had you seen my board including receivers with hopkins in there



    RE: Drafting a pass rusher, I've been noticing Sam Montgomery neard the end of Rd 1 in a lot of mocks, not that mocks are indicative of where he'll actually be drafted, but if this kid is there at the end of Rd 1, I'd be interested.  Kid is big, strong and athletic and plays like a trained killer out on the field.  He can be a tick late off the snap, though I'd be curious if it has more to do with where he lines up (always seemts to be a 1-3 feet behind the DL next to him, so maybe he's not seeing the ball as it's snapped... because he def has some explosion to his game.

    I do remember you having Hopkins listed as a WR option yes... kid took the lead for me once I got a chance to see him play.

     
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    In response to mbeaulieu07's comment:

    In response to bredbru's comment:

    In response to mbeaulieu07's comment:

    In response to bredbru's comment:

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    Based on the below mock, Rob Rang is the smartest draft analyst out there ;)

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/nfldraftscout-RobRang



    becasue he gives you elam :)

    i like the vet fs and pass rusher (so many avail this year) and get players you cant get in fa thru draft.

    ie rhodes, hopkins, (et al), frrederick



    Yep, guy is a genius and knows good football talent when he sees it, ha. 

    I'll def be adjusting my board once we have a better idea of how BB/NC will address the roster via FA... until then, I'll just continue to identify players that I think are the best fits for the team. 



    Yep, guy is a genius and knows good football talent when he sees it, ha. 

    re:

    "talent is there for sure."

     

    i guess rang finally read our thread and found out what was up! :)

     

    re:

    "I'll def be adjusting my board once we have a better idea of how BB/NC will address the roster via FA... until then, I'll just continue to identify players that I think are the best fits for the team." 

     

    i get ya.

    if bb fails to get a pass rusher or safety in fa

    id go rambo in the 3rd

    frederick in the 2nd

    in first id look and see if ansah is avail first, if not see if i want to go pass rusher here anyway

     

    or if ansah gone could go c/g first ie barret, pass rusher in 2 (any # of 3-4 guys), rambo in 3.

     

    ps, you didnt say, had you seen my board including receivers with hopkins in there



    RE: Drafting a pass rusher, I've been noticing Sam Montgomery neard the end of Rd 1 in a lot of mocks, not that mocks are indicative of where he'll actually be drafted, but if this kid is there at the end of Rd 1, I'd be interested.  Kid is big, strong and athletic and plays like a trained killer out on the field.  He can be a tick late off the snap, though I'd be curious if it has more to do with where he lines up (always seemts to be a 1-3 feet behind the DL next to him, so maybe he's not seeing the ball as it's snapped... because he def has some explosion to his game.

    I do remember you having Hopkins listed as a WR option yes... kid took the lead for me once I got a chance to see him play.



    great stuff!

     
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    Re: ***2013 Patriots Draft Thread V2***

    Playes that I look forward to seeing in today's Rose Bowl:

    Stanford:

    1.  OLB- Chase Thomas

    2.  OLB- Trent Murphy

    3.  S- Ed Reynolds

    4.  LB- Shayne Skov

    Wisconsin:

    1.  OL- Travis Frederick

    2.  WR- Jared Abbrederis

    3.  OT- Ricky Wagner

     
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