***2013 Patriots Draft Thread V2***

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    Gotta say, I'd love to see BB spend a late rounder on KSU QB Collin Klein (I know someone had mentioned hm a ways back, but I can't remember who)... with the "Pistol" offense slowly working it's way into the league (Robert Griffin, Colin Kaepernick, Russell Wilson, etc.) he could have some upside for them down the road (does BB try to get in ahead of the curve?)... plus I love the kid's toughness and leadership.

    I know he doesn't have the ideal throwing motion, but he's complete 66% of his passes this year and believe it or not, he ranks 6th nationally in YPA (9.3)... again, consider me firmly on board with this idea.



    too early i say. 

    brady here and starts 4-5 more years

    plenty of time to get a qb. 

    id be willing to spend a 7th



    I don't think it's every too early... they're always drafting and developing QB's.



    i dotn mind developing him as a backup ( trading mallet if were going to pickup klein). my point was i tink its too early to try ot find brdys replacement (unless its a andrew luck type thing of course)

     
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    #47 Alonso for Oregon is a very dynamic ILB. I know they have Mayo, Spikes and Hightower, but he may be the speedy LB that NWE needs on passing situations. He's 247 lbs - big enough for the Pats.



    he had a good game i dindt see him cover speedy backs nor do i know his 40.

    futher wiht the 3 pciks we have i d rather get 3 top players at whatever positons we cannot fill in fa.



    i was not really talking about someone who can run down RBs? I am talking about someone who can cover underneath receivers. he demonstrated that yesterday. a receiver ran outside toward the sideline to try to draw him from an underneath receiver, he recognized it well, let go of the first guy he was covering and broke for the real receiver quickly enough to break up the reception. i don't think i've seen a pats LB do that in the last five years.

    i think he is much quicker than any of the LBs we have now.

     
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    oh... there was another play he did that demonstrated his ability to shoot 10-15 yards really quickly. If I rememeber correctly, it was a stretch play. He just shot through the crowd from 5 yards back, to make the tackle on the RB for loss. Mayo has shown he can do that, but Alonso seems to be able to shoot from pt a to pt B much faster.

     
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    Gotta say, I'd love to see BB spend a late rounder on KSU QB Collin Klein (I know someone had mentioned hm a ways back, but I can't remember who)... with the "Pistol" offense slowly working it's way into the league (Robert Griffin, Colin Kaepernick, Russell Wilson, etc.) he could have some upside for them down the road (does BB try to get in ahead of the curve?)... plus I love the kid's toughness and leadership.

    I know he doesn't have the ideal throwing motion, but he's complete 66% of his passes this year and believe it or not, he ranks 6th nationally in YPA (9.3)... again, consider me firmly on board with this idea.



    too early i say. 

    brady here and starts 4-5 more years

    plenty of time to get a qb. 

    id be willing to spend a 7th



    I don't think it's every too early... they're always drafting and developing QB's.



    i dotn mind developing him as a backup ( trading mallet if were going to pickup klein). my point was i tink its too early to try ot find brdys replacement (unless its a andrew luck type thing of course)




    With the premium/success tied to "Elite" QB's... think I heard a stat on Felger & Mazz that the last (9) Super Bowl Champs have been tied to (6) QB's (Brady, P. Manning, E. Manning, Roethlisberger, Brees & Rodgers), I don't think it's ever too early to identify, draft and develop your QB of the future, especially when your starting QB is 35.  If BB feels that Mallet is that guy, great.

     
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    #47 Alonso for Oregon is a very dynamic ILB. I know they have Mayo, Spikes and Hightower, but he may be the speedy LB that NWE needs on passing situations. He's 247 lbs - big enough for the Pats.



    he had a good game i dindt see him cover speedy backs nor do i know his 40.

    futher wiht the 3 pciks we have i d rather get 3 top players at whatever positons we cannot fill in fa.



    i was not really talking about someone who can run down RBs? I am talking about someone who can cover underneath receivers. he demonstrated that yesterday. a receiver ran outside toward the sideline to try to draw him from an underneath receiver, he recognized it well, let go of the first guy he was covering and broke for the real receiver quickly enough to break up the reception. i don't think i've seen a pats LB do that in the last five years.

    i think he is much quicker than any of the LBs we have now.




    I think this is the key point, it's more of a covering the short to intermediate area vs. strictly focusing on RB's in general.  Kid looks to have good awareness and insticts for the position.

    You know, I'm a bit surprised that a kid with his movement ability (especially for a league that's so pass happy) is generally projected as a Day 3 kid, especially considering his size, physicality and ability to stay on the field on 1st and 2nd down.  I think most sites will eventually have him in the Rd 2-3 range once the scouting process catches up with... I'm just seeing much more than a Rd 4-5 kid.

    On the negative side, he can take some bad angles in pursuit and will overpursue at times due to his motor/aggression, but generally, this kid is right around the football, looking to make a play.  Love his upside as a blitz ILB as well.

     
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    man manziel is the man!

    would love to have seen oregon and a and m play if it werent for this "bowl" b.s.

    a and m and n.d. woulda been nice too. 

    oh well in my dreams.

     
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    #47 Alonso for Oregon is a very dynamic ILB. I know they have Mayo, Spikes and Hightower, but he may be the speedy LB that NWE needs on passing situations. He's 247 lbs - big enough for the Pats.



    he had a good game i dindt see him cover speedy backs nor do i know his 40.

    futher wiht the 3 pciks we have i d rather get 3 top players at whatever positons we cannot fill in fa.



    i was not really talking about someone who can run down RBs? I am talking about someone who can cover underneath receivers. he demonstrated that yesterday. a receiver ran outside toward the sideline to try to draw him from an underneath receiver, he recognized it well, let go of the first guy he was covering and broke for the real receiver quickly enough to break up the reception. i don't think i've seen a pats LB do that in the last five years.

    i think he is much quicker than any of the LBs we have now.



    good stuff seattle didint see too much of the game.

     
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    Gotta say, I'd love to see BB spend a late rounder on KSU QB Collin Klein (I know someone had mentioned hm a ways back, but I can't remember who)... with the "Pistol" offense slowly working it's way into the league (Robert Griffin, Colin Kaepernick, Russell Wilson, etc.) he could have some upside for them down the road (does BB try to get in ahead of the curve?)... plus I love the kid's toughness and leadership.

    I know he doesn't have the ideal throwing motion, but he's complete 66% of his passes this year and believe it or not, he ranks 6th nationally in YPA (9.3)... again, consider me firmly on board with this idea.



    too early i say. 

    brady here and starts 4-5 more years

    plenty of time to get a qb. 

    id be willing to spend a 7th



    I don't think it's every too early... they're always drafting and developing QB's.



    i dotn mind developing him as a backup ( trading mallet if were going to pickup klein). my point was i tink its too early to try ot find brdys replacement (unless its a andrew luck type thing of course)




    With the premium/success tied to "Elite" QB's... think I heard a stat on Felger & Mazz that the last (9) Super Bowl Champs have been tied to (6) QB's (Brady, P. Manning, E. Manning, Roethlisberger, Brees & Rodgers), I don't think it's ever too early to identify, draft and develop your QB of the future, especially when your starting QB is 35.  If BB feels that Mallet is that guy, great.



    i hear ya mb, if brady starts 4-5 more years whoever we develop, unless they are better than brady, will be gone is my thought.

     
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    man manziel is the man!

    would love to have seen oregon and a and m play if it werent for this "bowl" b.s.

    a and m and n.d. woulda been nice too. 

    oh well in my dreams.



    Kid is def fun to watch... can't wait to see what he can do next year.

     
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    this guy may end up being the steal of the draft at the running back position

    miguel maysonet 6-1 225

    vs Syracuse http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_hBbVlPqy4

     



    While I don't think RB projects to a real need next year, as they stand to have (4) NFL caliber backs (Ridley, Woody, Vereen & Bolden),  I do have my eye on a couple big, power SEC backs that could be available on Day 3.

    1.  Christine (pronounced Christian) Michael (5-11 220) Tex A&M- BB generally likes big backs, upwards of 220 or so... this kid has good power and feet, shows good patience on stretch plays and generally hits the hole between the tackles... a north/south kid that doesn't take a lot of false steps.  He also has a decent burst in the open field.  He did suffer a broken leg in 2010 and a torn ACL in 2011 so there are some durability questions.

    2.  Spencer Ware (5-11 225) LSU-  Another big power back that runs with good balance.  LSU has a stable of these types that they used to grind down defenses.

    As for Maysonet, I'll be curious to see what his weight is, I've seen him listed at 205 and 210.  Kid flashed some athleticism, power and explosion in that tape, has the natural leverage at 5-9, but I think he could run with a little better pad level (runs a little upright, IMO)... intriguing late round kid.

     
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    Get to see Harrison Smith play today, maybe good Omen for Notre Dame. Still have sour grapes about not Drafting this kid.




    I really wanted this kid too... too many folks were underrating this kid, chalking his 1st round projection up to a "weak S class".

    Could always draft Harrison Lite in (Zeke Motta) the middle rounds, haha.

     
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    this guy may end up being the steal of the draft at the running back position

    miguel maysonet 6-1 225

    vs Syracuse http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_hBbVlPqy4

     



    While I don't think RB projects to a real need next year, as they stand to have (4) NFL caliber backs (Ridley, Woody, Vereen & Bolden),  I do have my eye on a couple big, power SEC backs that could be available on Day 3.

    1.  Christine (pronounced Christian) Michael (5-11 220) Tex A&M- BB generally likes big backs, upwards of 220 or so... this kid has good power and feet, shows good patience on stretch plays and generally hits the hole between the tackles... a north/south kid that doesn't take a lot of false steps.  He also has a decent burst in the open field.  He did suffer a broken leg in 2010 and a torn ACL in 2011 so there are some durability questions.

    2.  Spencer Ware (5-11 225) LSU-  Another big power back that runs with good balance.  LSU has a stable of these types that they used to grind down defenses.

    As for Maysonet, I'll be curious to see what his weight is, I've seen him listed at 205 and 210.  Kid flashed some athleticism, power and explosion in that tape, has the natural leverage at 5-9, but I think he could run with a little better pad level (runs a little upright, IMO)... intriguing late round kid.



    Maysonet can play, runs fast, hits the holes quick and is surprising tough, have seen him play a bunch of times at Stony brook.  ran well against division one opponents when given the chance. Simply dominated the playoff level.  He was invited to the combine and is listed on the list of extras to be called if any running backs get hurt for the senior bowl( I think).

     

     
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    Man that Ducks team is fast. If Chip Kelly is in the NFL does he try to use the same offensive philosophy in the NFL?    MB

     
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    Man that Ducks team is fast. If Chip Kelly is in the NFL does he try to use the same offensive philosophy in the NFL?    MB



    I think he'll make some adjustments, as NFL defenses are much better equippe/coached, but overall, I don't see why his offense won't work at the NFL level... heck NE incorporates some of his concepts today and it's worked out well for them

    With the Browns being my 2nd favorite NFL team, I'd love to see him end up there... interested to see if he'd then target his boy Kenjon Barner.

     
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    this guy may end up being the steal of the draft at the running back position

    miguel maysonet 6-1 225

    vs Syracuse http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_hBbVlPqy4

     



    While I don't think RB projects to a real need next year, as they stand to have (4) NFL caliber backs (Ridley, Woody, Vereen & Bolden),  I do have my eye on a couple big, power SEC backs that could be available on Day 3.

    1.  Christine (pronounced Christian) Michael (5-11 220) Tex A&M- BB generally likes big backs, upwards of 220 or so... this kid has good power and feet, shows good patience on stretch plays and generally hits the hole between the tackles... a north/south kid that doesn't take a lot of false steps.  He also has a decent burst in the open field.  He did suffer a broken leg in 2010 and a torn ACL in 2011 so there are some durability questions.

    2.  Spencer Ware (5-11 225) LSU-  Another big power back that runs with good balance.  LSU has a stable of these types that they used to grind down defenses.

    As for Maysonet, I'll be curious to see what his weight is, I've seen him listed at 205 and 210.  Kid flashed some athleticism, power and explosion in that tape, has the natural leverage at 5-9, but I think he could run with a little better pad level (runs a little upright, IMO)... intriguing late round kid.



    Maysonet can play, runs fast, hits the holes quick and is surprising tough, have seen him play a bunch of times at Stony brook.  ran well against division one opponents when given the chance. Simply dominated the playoff level.  He was invited to the combine and is listed on the list of extras to be called if any running backs get hurt for the senior bowl( I think).

     



    Thanks for the feedback, tg.

     
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    Badger OL Travis Frederick to declare for the draft:

    http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/05/starting-lineman-bolts-badgers-for-nfl/

     
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    i have someone working on highlight vids for Robert Alford, Melvin White, and Chris Harper.. coming soon!




    Nice!

     
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    One name that's quickly working it's way up my draft board is Rutgers CB Logan Ryan (6-0 190).  I'm hoping to target this kid at the back end of Rd 2, but I think he's more of a top 40 type kid that could sneak into Rd 1, so he could be a potential target there if NE is looking to go CB early.

    This kid has good size, can set the edge in the run game, plays a physical brand of football and is one of the better tackling CB's that I've seen (a def plus with BB/NC).  He shows good awareness/instincts in zone and has the size/speed/quicks/physicality to excel press/off man... he also gets his hands on a ton of footballs with 17 PBU/21 PD (including 4 INT's).

    Kid is just an awesome overall fit for what NE values at the position and again, I could see a DMC like rise for this kid from projected 2nd Rd to 1st Rounder.

     
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    Stanford OLB Trent Murphy and ILB Shayne Skov  will both return to school (I'll have to remove both from the Big 32 Board)... that's huge news for the Stanford D in 2013... both should be at least day 2 picks in 2014.

    http://www.sfgate.com/collegesports/article/3-Stanford-defenders-choose-to-return-4170687.php

     
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    i talked about Klien awhile back but I would like to see him get a shot at another position. the kid is both a great athlete and football player. Try him at TE or even at a rush DE.  And obviously have as third QB.

    and try Nebraska QB at safety. I just like smart football players and college QB's tend to be the smartest of the lot.

    and yes, if Christian Micheal is around late take him. Great kid.

    I am not as sold on Vaccaro as you guys are. He has a bit of a sourpuss rep at UT.

     
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