***2014 PATRIOTS DRAFT THREAD***

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    Alright guys now that we have an extra back of the 4th pick, who are your top 5 picks for that comp pick?

    Mine are, in no order:

    • Antone Exum S
    • Cody Hoffman WR
    • Tyler Larsen C
    • Billy Turner OT
    • Jerick McKinnon RB



    Give me:

    1a.  WR- Cody Latimer (I'd tak 1a-1c in Rd 3 as well, but they might last until Rd 4)

    1b.  DL- Brent Urban

    1c.  WR- Jared Abbrederis

    2.  DL- Ed Stinson

    3.  DB- Antone Exum

    4.  OL- Chris Watt

    5.  TE- Arthur Lynch

     

     



    Mine, no particular order:

    -Boskeo Lokombo  OLB

    -Antone Exum  DB

    -Charles Sims  RB

    -Joe Jon Duncan  TE

    -Hoffman or Latimer  WRs  (Like 'em both.)

    *WR Bruce Ellington would be my #1 hope, but I'm sure he will be gone.



    Do nto know lokumbo, read briefly that he is a great athlete though.would love us to grab a solid te though with this pick

     
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    Alright guys now that we have an extra back of the 4th pick, who are your top 5 picks for that comp pick?

    Mine are, in no order:

    • Antone Exum S
    • Cody Hoffman WR
    • Tyler Larsen C
    • Billy Turner OT
    • Jerick McKinnon RB



    Give me:

    1a.  WR- Cody Latimer (I'd tak 1a-1c in Rd 3 as well, but they might last until Rd 4)

    1b.  DL- Brent Urban

    1c.  WR- Jared Abbrederis

    2.  DL- Ed Stinson

    3.  DB- Antone Exum

    4.  OL- Chris Watt

    5.  TE- Arthur Lynch

     

     



    Mine:

    WR Kevin Norwood although I don't know he lasts that long

    DT Justin Ellis

    OG Anthony Steen

    OLB Christian Jones, another cover LB

    ILB Max Bullough

     
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    In response to WazzuWheatfarmer's comment:

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    In response to PatsEng's comment:

    Alright guys now that we have an extra back of the 4th pick, who are your top 5 picks for that comp pick?

    Mine are, in no order:

    • Antone Exum S
    • Cody Hoffman WR
    • Tyler Larsen C
    • Billy Turner OT
    • Jerick McKinnon RB



    Give me:

    1a.  WR- Cody Latimer (I'd tak 1a-1c in Rd 3 as well, but they might last until Rd 4)

    1b.  DL- Brent Urban

    1c.  WR- Jared Abbrederis

    2.  DL- Ed Stinson

    3.  DB- Antone Exum

    4.  OL- Chris Watt

    5.  TE- Arthur Lynch

     

     



    Mine, no particular order:

    -Boskeo Lokombo  OLB

    -Antone Exum  DB

    -Charles Sims  RB

    -Joe Jon Duncan  TE

    -Hoffman or Latimer  WRs  (Like 'em both.)

    *WR Bruce Ellington would be my #1 hope, but I'm sure he will be gone.



    I had thought about Ellington as well, love that kids game.

     
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    In response to mbeaulieu07's comment:

    In response to PatsEng's comment:

    Alright guys now that we have an extra back of the 4th pick, who are your top 5 picks for that comp pick?

    Mine are, in no order:

    • Antone Exum S
    • Cody Hoffman WR
    • Tyler Larsen C
    • Billy Turner OT
    • Jerick McKinnon RB



    Give me:

    1a.  WR- Cody Latimer (I'd tak 1a-1c in Rd 3 as well, but they might last until Rd 4)

    1b.  DL- Brent Urban

    1c.  WR- Jared Abbrederis

    2.  DL- Ed Stinson

    3.  DB- Antone Exum

    4.  OL- Chris Watt

    5.  TE- Arthur Lynch

     

     



    We both have Brent Urban as our one of our top kids here. Gotta love his,size. I see him as a replacement for baquette, but a bit bigger in that he can play 3-4 DE and 4-3 DT. I hope bb lands this kid, I think he could be a decent rotational player and an upgrade over both bequette and vellano.

     
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    I noticed that Craig Loston is graded as a third day pick. What happened to him? If I rememebr correctly, back at the start of tehs eason, he was exepcted to be a top 3 S.

    Is the drop justified? Or would he be an above average value in the fourth?

     

     

     

     
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    In response to mbeaulieu07's comment:

    In response to PatsEng's comment:

    Alright guys now that we have an extra back of the 4th pick, who are your top 5 picks for that comp pick?

    Mine are, in no order:

    • Antone Exum S
    • Cody Hoffman WR
    • Tyler Larsen C
    • Billy Turner OT
    • Jerick McKinnon RB



    Give me:

    1a.  WR- Cody Latimer (I'd tak 1a-1c in Rd 3 as well, but they might last until Rd 4)

    1b.  DL- Brent Urban

    1c.  WR- Jared Abbrederis

    2.  DL- Ed Stinson

    3.  DB- Antone Exum

    4.  OL- Chris Watt

    5.  TE- Arthur Lynch

     

     



    Mine, no particular order:

    -Boskeo Lokombo  OLB

    -Antone Exum  DB

    -Charles Sims  RB

    -Joe Jon Duncan  TE

    -Hoffman or Latimer  WRs  (Like 'em both.)

    *WR Bruce Ellington would be my #1 hope, but I'm sure he will be gone.



    Do nto know lokumbo, read briefly that he is a great athlete though.would love us to grab a solid te though with this pick



    You know I'm a big Joe Don Duncan fan. Think I might have been the first on the band wagon but that 4th might be a bit high for him. Then again you might not have a shot at him in the 6th so why not.

     
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    Jared Abbrederis

    Antone Exum

    Arthur Lynch

    Christian Kirksey

     
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    It's difficult for me to say who my top picks will be in teh fourth without knowing who they pick in the first three rounds. So, I will list names I would not mind if the Pats pick on the third day of the draft. I would be happy if they pick five of these.

    DT Justin Ellis (R4)

    CB Antone Exum (R4)

    C Bryan Stork (R4)

    WR Kevin Norwood (R4)

    TE Crockett Gillmore (R4; if they pass on Niklas, ASJ and CJF)

    ILB Christian Jones (R4)

    OG Anthony Steen (R4)

    RB Tyler Gaffney (R4)

    SS Ahmand Dixon (R6)

    FS Dione Bailey (R6)

    S Vinnie Sunseri (R6)

    ILB Max Bullough (R6)

    WR Brandon Coleman (R6)

    DE Brent Urban (R6; Not if Armstead is really on track to make a contribution this year)

    DT Ryan Carrethers (R6; candidate for a second dip @ DT)

    DT Deandre Coleman (R6; candidate for a second dip @ DT)

    DT Jay Bromley (R6; candidate for a second dip @ DT)

    DT Bruce Gaston (R6; candidate for a second dip @ DT)

    DE Ethan Westbrooks (R6)

    WR Brandon Wimberly (R6)

    QB Tyler Russell (R7)

    QB Keith Wenning (R7)

    QB Tom Savage (R7)

    OLB Boseko Lokombo (R7)

    ILB Anthony Hitchens (R7)

    WR Isaiah Burse (R7)

    FB Nikita Whitlock (R7; pretty good catching passes)

    OLB Spencer Shuey (R7)

    DT Beau Allen (R7)

    S CJ Barnett (R7)

    WR Colin Lockett (R7)

    WR Damian Copeland (R7)

    OLB Brandon Watts (FA)

    TE Eric Waters (FA)

    DE Elhadji Ndiaye (FA)

    S Ryan Smith (FA)

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     
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    I think he looks like a third round pick at best. I saw Kirwan's mock draft too and let me say this..anyone that puts Eric Ebron outside the top 15 is out of touch with reality. In fact the mocks with him going in the top ten are mocks I think are more realistic.

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    I agree. IMO for teams that are looking to add weapons, one of best ways to raise passing output is a good receiving option down the middle -- perhaps better than getting a WR. I like Ebron over any WR not named Watkins. I just can't see Ebron getting past DET, BUF and NYJ.




    Yeah I couldn't agree more - look at what these tightends are doing for NFL offenses - it's crazy to think what Ebron is going to add to a passing game. Is he perfect? No, but athletically he is pretty close, he moves like a receiver, but he's 6'4" 250 pounds. Pretty amazing talent...I don't think he lasts past 12. I like Jace Amaro too - he catches that football really well in tight spaces, his production is off the charts and physically he looks pretty gifted too. He's not in Ebron's league, but who is? I was surprised Amaro ran a poor 40 like he did, he looks much faster than that too me and he is athletic. I think Amaro would help this offense...Edelman, Boyce, Laffel, Gronk, a healthy Amendola, hopefully a healthy Dobson and Amaro are better than what we had last year.

     
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    I think he looks like a third round pick at best. I saw Kirwan's mock draft too and let me say this..anyone that puts Eric Ebron outside the top 15 is out of touch with reality. In fact the mocks with him going in the top ten are mocks I think are more realistic.

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    I agree. IMO for teams that are looking to add weapons, one of best ways to raise passing output is a good receiving option down the middle -- perhaps better than getting a WR. I like Ebron over any WR not named Watkins. I just can't see Ebron getting past DET, BUF and NYJ.




    Yeah I couldn't agree more - look at what these tightends are doing for NFL offenses - it's crazy to think what Ebron is going to add to a passing game. Is he perfect? No, but athletically he is pretty close, he moves like a receiver, but he's 6'4" 250 pounds. Pretty amazing talent...I don't think he lasts past 12. I like Jace Amaro too - he catches that football really well in tight spaces, his production is off the charts and physically he looks pretty gifted too. He's not in Ebron's league, but who is? I was surprised Amaro ran a poor 40 like he did, he looks much faster than that too me and he is athletic. I think Amaro would help this offense...Edelman, Boyce, Laffel, Gronk, a healthy Amendola, hopefully a healthy Dobson and Amaro are better than what we had last year.



    I think Amaro is more scheme-specific. Given he has not played inline much in college, he will be a project there. His immediate impact will be as one who lines up at the slot. IMO, if the Pats pick up a TE in teh first two days, it should be one who is a direct backfill/backup to Gronk. Amaro is not that.

    However, I have no doubt that Amaro will help greatly imrprove the O of whomever picks him up.

     
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    Alright guys now that we have an extra back of the 4th pick, who are your top 5 picks for that comp pick?

    Mine are, in no order:

    • Antone Exum S
    • Cody Hoffman WR
    • Tyler Larsen C
    • Billy Turner OT
    • Jerick McKinnon RB



    Give me:

    1a.  WR- Cody Latimer (I'd tak 1a-1c in Rd 3 as well, but they might last until Rd 4)

    1b.  DL- Brent Urban

    1c.  WR- Jared Abbrederis

    2.  DL- Ed Stinson

    3.  DB- Antone Exum

    4.  OL- Chris Watt

    5.  TE- Arthur Lynch

     

     



    Mine, no particular order:

    -Boskeo Lokombo  OLB

    -Antone Exum  DB

    -Charles Sims  RB

    -Joe Jon Duncan  TE

    -Hoffman or Latimer  WRs  (Like 'em both.)

    *WR Bruce Ellington would be my #1 hope, but I'm sure he will be gone.



    Do nto know lokumbo, read briefly that he is a great athlete though.would love us to grab a solid te though with this pick



    You know I'm a big Joe Don Duncan fan. Think I might have been the first on the band wagon but that 4th might be a bit high for him. Then again you might not have a shot at him in the 6th so why not.



    Yeah, late 4th might me a little early for Duncan, but at that point of the draft I don't worry quite as much about "value" as I would in the first 3 rounds.  Late 4th, on a comp pick, I say take the player who you love, regardless of how everyone else may view him.  I think Duncan is a guy who NE might have a lot of interest in, so if they like him that much, heck yeah they should grab him with that comp pick.  That being said, if a really good player has fallen to that point, then take the value and grab him, hoping Duncan might be there later.  Very circumstancial.

     
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    With the additional 4rth round pick the Patriots are in really good shape to get one MB's wish list top tens in each slot according to CBS sports. com player rankings. Even if they trade out of round one, because they will then have an extra pick in round two,and possibly rounds three and five. Depending on who is trying to get back in these could be exceptionally low picks per round, imagine Houston wanting to get back in to take a QBand they give you just their second and a fifth round pick and maybe a 6th BB would have ther back half of the draft in his control, also he would have back to back picks in round 4 and five, this draft is deeper than any draft we've seen in several years.

     
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    You know I'm a big Joe Don Duncan fan. Think I might have been the first on the band wagon but that 4th might be a bit high for him. Then again you might not have a shot at him in the 6th so why not.



    Yeah, late 4th might me a little early for Duncan, but at that point of the draft I don't worry quite as much about "value" as I would in the first 3 rounds.  Late 4th, on a comp pick, I say take the player who you love, regardless of how everyone else may view him.  ...



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    I'd like to see the Pats draft a DE, TE, and C in the first three rounds, LB capable of playing on early downs in round 4 and an OL, RB or LB as the 2nd fourth round pick.

    DE:
    Kony Ealy (r1)
    Scott Crichton (r2)
    Kareem Martin (r2)
    Will Clarke (r3)

    TE:
    Eric Ebron (r1, one can dream)
    Jace Amaro (r1/2)
    Austin Sefarian-Jenkins (r2)
    Troy Niklas (r2)
    CJ Fiedorowicz (r3)

    C:
    Marcus Martin (r2)
    Weston Richburg (r2/3)
    Travis Swanson (r3)

    Then it's hoping that one of Yawin Smallwood, Shayne Skov, and Christian Jones makes it to our 4th round pick.

     
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    I thought I would post a few random thoughts about this year's draft this morning...

     

    1)  Louis Nix III will not be there at 29.  I know his stock has been falling, but there is just too much talent there for him to last that long.  SD at 25 is as far as he falls.

     

    2)  Austin Seferian-Jenkins will go in the 1st round, and possibly to NE.  I know his stock seems to be down due to a sub-par 2013, but that skillset is very tantalizing, and there is so much to work with there.  I think BB could be very interested.  Don't be shocked if we take him, and he could even go before #29.

     

    3)  NE will not draft Colt Lyerla.  No explanation needed here.

     

    4)  Ryan Mallet will not get traded.  I've been saying all along that he will be a Patriot in 2014, and I'll stand by that.  I don't think any other teams have much interest, anyway.

     

    5)  Shayne Skov is the player in this draft who I think is the most likely to be drafted by NE.  Smart, instinctive LB, right up BB's alley.  Could go at #62, #96, or somewhere in between due to a trade, but I bet BB has his sights set on him.

     

    6)  Bruce Elliongton will be gone before our pick in the 3rd round.  I really want this guy, but I bet someone will fall in love with his skills and take him in the 3rd.

     

    7)  NE will draft a QB with their 4th round Comp Pick.  Hey, and 2001 Comp Pick QB worked out pretty good, right?  Why not do it again?  Could be Murry, Mettenberger, or Savage from Pitt.

     

    8)  Amaro will fall into the mid-to-late 2nd.  A lot to like with him, but those small, 9" hands may scare teams away from taking him early.

     

    9)  Jeremiah Attaochu will rocket up draft boards as the draft nears, similar to what Chandler Jones did in 2012.  I think he will ultimately be a Top 25 Pick.  In a league starving for pass-rushers, he could be a very good one.  Someone will roll the dice on him earlier than expected.

     

    10)  NE will not trade out of the 1st round this year.  They won't trade up, either.  I think they stay at 29 and make a pick.  I think teams will be pretty stingy with their mid-round picks this year since the draft is so deep, and I don't think BB will be able to find a decent deal to move back.  Also, we gained that valuable 4th round Comp Pick, so I think BB will be satisfied with the number of picks that he has this year.

     

    What do you guys think?  Am I off my rocker with these thoughts?

     
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    Man... updating my mock is tough... mind seems to change daily, though I think I'm set (for at least the next 7 minutes) on who I want to see in Rd 1... Attaochu, Shazier, Tuitt or Kelvin Benjamin are the names that I keep coming back to.  After that I still like Ford and Hageman.

    In Rd 2, I my focus is on Easley, Bucannon, Smith, Niklas, Bitonio and Moncrief... 

    In Rd 3, I'm looking at CJF, DaQuan, Richburg, Jean-Baptiste, Latimer, McCarron, Freeman and Ellington...

    ... we'll see how I feel tomorrow, haha.

     
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    Man... updating my mock is tough... mind seems to change daily, though I think I'm set (for at least the next 7 minutes) on who I want to see in Rd 1... Attaochu, Shazier, Tuitt or Kelvin Benjamin are the names that I keep coming back to.  After that I still like Ford and Hageman.

    In Rd 2, I my focus is on Easley, Bucannon, Smith, Niklas, Bitonio and Moncrief... 

    In Rd 3, I'm looking at CJF, DaQuan, Richburg, Jean-Baptiste, Latimer, McCarron, Freeman and Ellington...

    ... we'll see how I feel tomorrow, haha.




    One of the toughest drafts to predict in a while.  NE could go just about any direction.  Of your options, I would take:

    1)  Benjamin

    2)  Easely

    3)  CJF

    That would be solid.  Tough call, though.  Too much offense?

     
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    Man... updating my mock is tough... mind seems to change daily, though I think I'm set (for at least the next 7 minutes) on who I want to see in Rd 1... Attaochu, Shazier, Tuitt or Kelvin Benjamin are the names that I keep coming back to.  After that I still like Ford and Hageman.

    In Rd 2, I my focus is on Easley, Bucannon, Smith, Niklas, Bitonio and Moncrief... 

    In Rd 3, I'm looking at CJF, DaQuan, Richburg, Jean-Baptiste, Latimer, McCarron, Freeman and Ellington...

    ... we'll see how I feel tomorrow, haha.



    I'm still thinking if they like CJ they will grab him in the 2nd. Kind of like Collins where I had him projected in the back of the 3rd but they really liked him and took him in a spot they knew they would get him. I wouldn't be shocked for them to reach a round higher to get a TE they like

     
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    I thought I would post a few random thoughts about this year's draft this morning...

     

    1)  Louis Nix III will not be there at 29.  I know his stock has been falling, but there is just too much talent there for him to last that long.  SD at 25 is as far as he falls.

    I too think he'll be off the board.

     

    2)  Austin Seferian-Jenkins will go in the 1st round, and possibly to NE.  I know his stock seems to be down due to a sub-par 2013, but that skillset is very tantalizing, and there is so much to work with there.  I think BB could be very interested.  Don't be shocked if we take him, and he could even go before #29.

    In Rd 2, I'm cool... in Rd 1, I hope not. 

    3)  NE will not draft Colt Lyerla.  No explanation needed here.

    Agreed. 

    4)  Ryan Mallet will not get traded.  I've been saying all along that he will be a Patriot in 2014, and I'll stand by that.  I don't think any other teams have much interest, anyway.

    Would like to see them score a Day 2 pick for him, but as 7393 and a few others have pointed out... having him as a safety net incase of a serious injury to TB might be his best value.  Sure would hate to see them lose him for nothing though. 

    5)  Shayne Skov is the player in this draft who I think is the most likely to be drafted by NE.  Smart, instinctive LB, right up BB's alley.  Could go at #62, #96, or somewhere in between due to a trade, but I bet BB has his sights set on him.

    He sure has a lot of the attributes that they value on the field.  

     6)  Bruce Elliongton will be gone before our pick in the 3rd round.  I really want this guy, but I bet someone will fall in love with his skills and take him in the 3rd.

     I've seen him compared to Cobb and Steve Smith, so this is highly possible.

    7)  NE will draft a QB with their 4th round Comp Pick.  Hey, and 2001 Comp Pick QB worked out pretty good, right?  Why not do it again?  Could be Murry, Mettenberger, or Savage from Pitt.

     I like Murray here or in the 5th if they can add a pick in that round.

    8)  Amaro will fall into the mid-to-late 2nd.  A lot to like with him, but those small, 9" hands may scare teams away from taking him early.

    I like him more in that range.

    9)  Jeremiah Attaochu will rocket up draft boards as the draft nears, similar to what Chandler Jones did in 2012.  I think he will ultimately be a Top 25 Pick.  In a league starving for pass-rushers, he could be a very good one.  Someone will roll the dice on him earlier than expected.

     I sure as frig hope not!  I want him at 29.

    10)  NE will not trade out of the 1st round this year.  They won't trade up, either.  I think they stay at 29 and make a pick.  I think teams will be pretty stingy with their mid-round picks this year since the draft is so deep, and I don't think BB will be able to find a decent deal to move back.  Also, we gained that valuable 4th round Comp Pick, so I think BB will be satisfied with the number of picks that he has this year.

    I'll keep my fingers crossed for Jeremiah, Shazier or Tuitt!

     

    What do you guys think?  Am I off my rocker with these thoughts?




     
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    Man... updating my mock is tough... mind seems to change daily, though I think I'm set (for at least the next 7 minutes) on who I want to see in Rd 1... Attaochu, Shazier, Tuitt or Kelvin Benjamin are the names that I keep coming back to.  After that I still like Ford and Hageman.

    In Rd 2, I my focus is on Easley, Bucannon, Smith, Niklas, Bitonio and Moncrief... 

    In Rd 3, I'm looking at CJF, DaQuan, Richburg, Jean-Baptiste, Latimer, McCarron, Freeman and Ellington...

    ... we'll see how I feel tomorrow, haha.




    One of the toughest drafts to predict in a while.  NE could go just about any direction.  Of your options, I would take:

    1)  Benjamin

    2)  Easely

    3)  CJF

    That would be solid.  Tough call, though.  Too much offense?



    I woke up this AM thinking:

    1.  Jeremiah/Shazier

    2. Easley

    3.  CJF

     
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    Man... updating my mock is tough... mind seems to change daily, though I think I'm set (for at least the next 7 minutes) on who I want to see in Rd 1... Attaochu, Shazier, Tuitt or Kelvin Benjamin are the names that I keep coming back to.  After that I still like Ford and Hageman.

    In Rd 2, I my focus is on Easley, Bucannon, Smith, Niklas, Bitonio and Moncrief... 

    In Rd 3, I'm looking at CJF, DaQuan, Richburg, Jean-Baptiste, Latimer, McCarron, Freeman and Ellington...

    ... we'll see how I feel tomorrow, haha.



    I'm still thinking if they like CJ they will grab him in the 2nd. Kind of like Collins where I had him projected in the back of the 3rd but they really liked him and took him in a spot they knew they would get him. I wouldn't be shocked for them to reach a round higher to get a TE they like



    The possibility is there, I'd... I just like him more in Rd 3.

     
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    Re: ***2014 PATRIOTS DRAFT THREAD***

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    I thought I would post a few random thoughts about this year's draft this morning...

     

    1)  Louis Nix III will not be there at 29.  I know his stock has been falling, but there is just too much talent there for him to last that long.  SD at 25 is as far as he falls.

     We see this every year a top end player suddenly has all these issues that people are concerned about prior to the draft but they never drop as much as we think they would. It's all a game with teams hoping the player would drop to them leak certain concerns like Nix's knees. I agree he's gone before the Pats pick

    2)  Austin Seferian-Jenkins will go in the 1st round, and possibly to NE.  I know his stock seems to be down due to a sub-par 2013, but that skillset is very tantalizing, and there is so much to work with there.  I think BB could be very interested.  Don't be shocked if we take him, and he could even go before #29.

     Not a big ASJ fan. I like Niklas or CJ better frankly.

    3)  NE will not draft Colt Lyerla.  No explanation needed here.

     Agreed. After Kraft put his foot down on Britt (imo Kraft went public to make sure BB didn't make him an offer) I can't see them taking Lyerla

    4)  Ryan Mallet will not get traded.  I've been saying all along that he will be a Patriot in 2014, and I'll stand by that.  I don't think any other teams have much interest, anyway.

     I agree but only because of the latter is true not as much that the Pats want to keep him. The few teams I saw that could have interest (Hou, Cle, Min) all took different paths this offseason. If the Pats got a 2nd or a high 3rd I think they would have taken it and run. Mallett was an investment to cash in on later. Next year they aren't going to get anything for him when he leaves so if the chance presented itself imo they would have taken it and draft a replacement this year. Heck they still might draft a replacement this year knowing Mallett is gone next season.

    5)  Shayne Skov is the player in this draft who I think is the most likely to be drafted by NE.  Smart, instinctive LB, right up BB's alley.  Could go at #62, #96, or somewhere in between due to a trade, but I bet BB has his sights set on him.

     Very well could be it's hard for me to think they would draft a LB that early though with more pressing matters  on both lines and TE

    6)  Bruce Elliongton will be gone before our pick in the 3rd round.  I really want this guy, but I bet someone will fall in love with his skills and take him in the 3rd.

     Another very well could be. I remember Cobb being talked about as a 3rd round pick and he ended up in the 2nd

    7)  NE will draft a QB with their 4th round Comp Pick.  Hey, and 2001 Comp Pick QB worked out pretty good, right?  Why not do it again?  Could be Murry, Mettenberger, or Savage from Pitt.

     And this would be a reason to trade Mallett heck even for a 4th. If you are planning to spend a pick on a QB anyway it makes sense to get a pick prior to the point you plan on drafting a QB to have that extra player.

    8)  Amaro will fall into the mid-to-late 2nd.  A lot to like with him, but those small, 9" hands may scare teams away from taking him early.

     I can see this. Imo it's going to be either Niklas or Amaro will go early-mid 2nd and the other will go mid-late 2nd

    9)  Jeremiah Attaochu will rocket up draft boards as the draft nears, similar to what Chandler Jones did in 2012.  I think he will ultimately be a Top 25 Pick.  In a league starving for pass-rushers, he could be a very good one.  Someone will roll the dice on him earlier than expected.

     I can see him sneaking into the 1st but there are some pretty good OLB's and DE's infront of him. He's very fast and athletic but to me he's not a teir one player like Clowney, Barr, Mack and you can have a healthy debate on who's the top of the second teir of Murphy, Crichton, Ford, Ealy

    10)  NE will not trade out of the 1st round this year.  They won't trade up, either.  I think they stay at 29 and make a pick.  I think teams will be pretty stingy with their mid-round picks this year since the draft is so deep, and I don't think BB will be able to find a decent deal to move back.  Also, we gained that valuable 4th round Comp Pick, so I think BB will be satisfied with the number of picks that he has this year.

    If they get a chance to trade out I think they will. I don't think BB likes that spot to pick and listening to him talk about the draft you get the sense that unless he feels the player is a top 20 player that he might have a pool of 6 21-60 players and just as long as he gets one of those players he's happy. Hence why you see he fall back to that mid 2nd range so often. Now this year I hope is different and he stays put to target 1 or 2 players instead of a pool of 6 but knowing BB he most likely won't change that anytime soon.

    What do you guys think?  Am I off my rocker with these thoughts?




     
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    Re: ***2014 PATRIOTS DRAFT THREAD***

    This mock has the Pats nabbing Ealy...

    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfp-mock-draft-2-0-191123968--nfl.html

     
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    Re: ***2014 PATRIOTS DRAFT THREAD***

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    I think he looks like a third round pick at best. I saw Kirwan's mock draft too and let me say this..anyone that puts Eric Ebron outside the top 15 is out of touch with reality. In fact the mocks with him going in the top ten are mocks I think are more realistic.

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    I agree. IMO for teams that are looking to add weapons, one of best ways to raise passing output is a good receiving option down the middle -- perhaps better than getting a WR. I like Ebron over any WR not named Watkins. I just can't see Ebron getting past DET, BUF and NYJ.




    Yeah I couldn't agree more - look at what these tightends are doing for NFL offenses - it's crazy to think what Ebron is going to add to a passing game. Is he perfect? No, but athletically he is pretty close, he moves like a receiver, but he's 6'4" 250 pounds. Pretty amazing talent...I don't think he lasts past 12. I like Jace Amaro too - he catches that football really well in tight spaces, his production is off the charts and physically he looks pretty gifted too. He's not in Ebron's league, but who is? I was surprised Amaro ran a poor 40 like he did, he looks much faster than that too me and he is athletic. I think Amaro would help this offense...Edelman, Boyce, Laffel, Gronk, a healthy Amendola, hopefully a healthy Dobson and Amaro are better than what we had last year.



    I think Amaro is more scheme-specific. Given he has not played inline much in college, he will be a project there. His immediate impact will be as one who lines up at the slot. IMO, if the Pats pick up a TE in teh first two days, it should be one who is a direct backfill/backup to Gronk. Amaro is not that.

    However, I have no doubt that Amaro will help greatly imrprove the O of whomever picks him up.



    I think like most of these pass catching tightends blocking will be something he will need to work on, but like you said...he will help greatly improve an offense. The way I look at it is Hooman will block for you...Gronk can too...having a guy like Amaro catching passes will improve the passing game.

     
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    Re: ***2014 PATRIOTS DRAFT THREAD***

    I would draft both these guys in later rounds. They are extremely underrated.

    http://blogs.nfl.com/category/pro-days/

    Representatives from 19 NFL teams — including the general managers of the New York Jets (John Idzik) and San Diego Chargers (Tom Telesco), and a New England Patriots special teams coach — were present for Indiana’s pro day on Wednesday, when 18 players worked out indoors on FieldTurf.

    Cody Latimer, WR (6-foot-2 5/8, 215 pounds) — Due to a broken bone in his foot, Latimer was only able to run straight ahead and did not participate in any positional drills. He ran the 40-yard dash in 4.44 and 4.45 seconds. He also had a 39-inch vertical jump. Latimer was at the NFL Scouting Combine, but only competed in the bench press (in which he led his position group with 23 reps of 225 pounds). Latimer does not have a target date for another workout before the 2014 NFL Draft.

    Ted Bolser, TE (6-5 5/8, 248) — Bolser ran the 40 in 4.74 and 4.78 seconds. He had a 31-inch vertical jump and 9-foot-3 broad jump. He did the short shuttle in 4.50 seconds and the three-cone drill in 7.11 seconds. He performed 19 strength lifts. Bolser is probably a late-round draft pick or priority free-agent pickup following the draft.

     
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