***2014 PATRIOTS DRAFT THREAD***

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    Have just read the last 5-6 pages has taken me awhile to get used to the changes.  After reading about all the running backs I am thinking we might grab one in the first three rounds. Not sure what bb thinks about Ridley. I hate the draft in May has really thrown me off. Reading lindys draft guide they have Kadeem Carey from Arizona as their # 1 do not remember seeing him play this year, love all the talk on Sankey but is he too similar to vereen? 

     
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    Have just read the last 5-6 pages has taken me awhile to get used to the changes.  After reading about all the running backs I am thinking we might grab one in the first three rounds. Not sure what bb thinks about Ridley. I hate the draft in May has really thrown me off. Reading lindys draft guide they have Kadeem Carey from Arizona as their # 1 do not remember seeing him play this year, love all the talk on Sankey but is he too similar to vereen? 


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    It should be noted that both Ridley and Vereen will be free-agents in 2015 (not sure if they have 5th year options), now they could re-sign one or both, but it would probably make sense for them to target (1) back in this class.


    Yes, Sankey is more Vereen and I also like Devonte Freeman in that capacity.


    If they're looking for more of an every down back, Hyde, Hill (both of which have character questions) and Andre Williams should interest them... on Day 3, I like Gaffney, Rajion Neal, Alfred Blue, Stephen Houston and Lorenzo Taliaferro.


     

     
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    Sankey!


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    Kid is a very, very good football player... I'd love to see him in Foxboro.

     
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    Sankey over McKinnon as a rb...McKinnon over Sankey as an athlete....depends on what you need most...both are finds and will make whoever takes them happy!

     
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    Updated Mock Draft 4/29/2014:


    Round 1 - Dee Ford - DE Auburn


    Round 2 - Bruce Ellington - WR South Carolina


    Round 3 - CJ Fiedorowicz - TE Iowa


    Round 4 - will Clarke - DE WVU


    Round 4 - OL- Anthony Steen - OT Alabama


    Round 6 - Connor Shaw - QB South Carolina


    Round 7 - Tyler Gaffney - RB Stanford

     
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    What is everyone's. " nightmare scenario" for this draft?  Is there a player that you really don't want to see NE select?  I have a few:


    -Easley in the first or second.  Both knees are reconstructed.  I think he is the next Ras-I and I just hope we are not the team dumb enough to waste a pick on him. 


    -Joel Bitonio in the 1st.  Don't get me wrong, I like him, just not enough to use a 1st on him.  I'd be just fine with taking him in the 2nd.


    -Colt Lyerla at any point.  The guy is a loser.

     
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    Definitely Easley any earlier than the third round would anger/scare/dumbfound me

     
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    Looks like we know who the Bills are going to draft. They are reportedly very interested in Sammy Watkins. As we know with the Bills, when reports come out that they are extremely interested in a player they usually take them, ala Manuel, Gilmore, and the one where there was so much smoke you couldn't see 1" in front of you CJ Spiller.



    I swear by lil 10 pound bearded baby Jesus

     
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    From Twitter yesterday, Nick Caserio said the 2014 class is deep at WR, RB, and DL. Not like any of us were pushing for a RB in the 1st or 2nd round anyway. But as others have said, with WR being so strong this year, we are sure to be able to find one to compete with Boyce for a roster spot. Again, more smoke screen if it was said. 


    I'm almost wondering if Shazier, Barr, Roby or even Morgan Moses are available, we take LB, CB,  OL in the first. If a value pick isn't there, they trade down. 


    I'm not going to speculate who they will get or where - but here are some of my favorite players (I'm not showing guys that I don't think we have a chance to get)


    DL - Ealy, Nix, Jernigan, Ferguson, Jones, Clark, Urban


    OLB - Barr, Shazier, Attaochu, Tripp


    ILB - Borland (love this guy), Skov, Kirksey


    S - Pryor, Buchanon


    CB - Roby, Verett, Jean-Baptiste


    OL - Sua Filo, Richburg, Moses, Mewhort, Turner


    WR - Mathews, Moncrief, Landry 


    RB - Hill, Seastrunk


    QB - Mettenberger, McCarron (I think he gets overdrafted- reminds me of Chad Pennington with a slightly better arm and hotter GF)


    TE - Federowitz, Niklas


    A lot of guys which have been talked about. Some guys I don't want - Hageman - not a risk taker and he looks like high risk. Tuitt - not a fan and I know some of you guys are. Don't like Logan Thomas - too much work to do on that guy - in my opinion. Not a fan of Jace Amaro - seems like a system guy to me and he can't block. 


    I will admit I do not do the level of research some of you do - especially MB, but I do enjoy reading the posts and seeing a great haul for the Pats. 

     
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    Just my opinion, but I think that the "high risk" label associated with Hageman is being somewhat overblown.  "Raw" tends to concern me more with linebackers offense of lineman wide receivers and quarterbacks.  I think the size and athleticism that Hageman possesses will make him at the very worst an average defensive lineman.  However, with the right coaching and work ethic which I have heard he has, I think you will be a very special player.  


     

     
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    What is everyone's. " nightmare scenario" for this draft?  Is there a player that you really don't want to see NE select?  I have a few:


     


    -Easley in the first or second.  Both knees are reconstructed.  I think he is the next Ras-I and I just hope we are not the team dumb enough to waste a pick on him. 


     


    -Joel Bitonio in the 1st.  Don't get me wrong, I like him, just not enough to use a 1st on him.  I'd be just fine with taking him in the 2nd.


     


    -Colt Lyerla at any point.  The guy is a loser.


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    Things I really don't wanna see:


    NE selecting an OL not named Zack Martin (he should be long gone) in Rd 1, though I get it if they do.


    NE selecting Tom Savage within the Top 100.


    NE selecting Will Sutton within the Top 100.


    NE selecting Brock Vereen within the Top 100... I like him more in Rd 4 or 5.


    NE reaching to select Brandon Coleman in Rd 2.


    NE selecting or signing Colt Lyerla at any point.


    NE selecting Seantrel Henderson before Rd 6 or 7, if at all.


    NE reaching 3-5 rounds for any player.


    I'm sure there are more, ha...

     
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    From Twitter yesterday, Nick Caserio said the 2014 class is deep at WR, RB, and DL. Not like any of us were pushing for a RB in the 1st or 2nd round anyway. But as others have said, with WR being so strong this year, we are sure to be able to find one to compete with Boyce for a roster spot. Again, more smoke screen if it was said. 


     


    I'm almost wondering if Shazier, Barr, Roby or even Morgan Moses are available, we take LB, CB,  OL in the first. If a value pick isn't there, they trade down. 


     


    I'm not going to speculate who they will get or where - but here are some of my favorite players (I'm not showing guys that I don't think we have a chance to get)


     


    DL - Ealy, Nix, Jernigan, Ferguson, Jones, Clark, Urban


     


    OLB - Barr, Shazier, Attaochu, Tripp


     


    ILB - Borland (love this guy), Skov, Kirksey


     


    S - Pryor, Buchanon


     


    CB - Roby, Verett, Jean-Baptiste


     


    OL - Sua Filo, Richburg, Moses, Mewhort, Turner


     


    WR - Mathews, Moncrief, Landry 


     


    RB - Hill, Seastrunk


     


    QB - Mettenberger, McCarron (I think he gets overdrafted- reminds me of Chad Pennington with a slightly better arm and hotter GF)


     


    TE - Federowitz, Niklas


     


    A lot of guys which have been talked about. Some guys I don't want - Hageman - not a risk taker and he looks like high risk. Tuitt - not a fan and I know some of you guys are. Don't like Logan Thomas - too much work to do on that guy - in my opinion. Not a fan of Jace Amaro - seems like a system guy to me and he can't block. 


     


    I will admit I do not do the level of research some of you do - especially MB, but I do enjoy reading the posts and seeing a great haul for the Pats. 


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    Solid list of prospects.

     
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    My QB of choice if we Draft one is McCarron, if not him, I like Murray a lot. I thought McCarron sold the play action very good, but Murray is even better. Best in this class.

     
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    Dustin Keller is in Foxboro today and he's already completed his physical, which according to NFL.com went well. If they sign him what are the chances that the Patriots waste an early pick on a TE?

     
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    TE position weak this year.  Sign Keller and see how Gronk comes back


     

     
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    Dustin Keller is in Foxboro today and he's already completed his physical, which according to NFL.com went well. If they sign him what are the chances that the Patriots waste an early pick on a TE?


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    Slim, but they might draft an TE with an early pick and that wouldn't be a waste.


    First Gronk is always hurt so if we get a full season that's frosting. Second physicals don't tell you a players mental state (ie making the catch when you know you are going to take a hit or making), how the injury affected their physcial performance (ie cutting, running, jumping), or emotional state. Signing him now doesn't guarantee he'll be the same player as 3 years ago (see Ballard) so he's a major gamble if you are counting on him to be the #2 TE option. Getting a long term solution as a primary backup option and if you get something from Keller it's very far from a waste.

     
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    Even with Keller, they take a TE, but where will be the issue...with Keller, if he's healthy and still has much of what he had before, they could wait until the 5-7 rounds....

     
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    My short list of Day 3 Sleepers:


     


    Maryland CB Dexter McDougle


     


    Wisconsin S Dez Southward


     


    Indiana TE Ted Bolser


     


    Wake Forest WR Michael Campanaro


     


    Indiana RB Stephen Houston


     


    Vanderbilt OL Wesley Johnson


     


    NW WR Kain Colter


    Arizona LB Marquis Flowers


     


     

     
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    Round 1. Hageman or Nix or Tuitt


    If Bortles or one of the top QBs is still available trade down but NOT FAR. Still want one of the above three.


    Round 2. best LB, DL or interior OL (or TE if they like one enough... and hoping we sign Keller as a move TE)


    Round 3. best of the above or RB


    Round 4. Will Urban be available here? If not maybe move hi up to round 3.


     

     
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    Saw McShay talk up Jarvis Landry on SportsCenter big time today. Must feel good to have identified a player before the media machine, huh MB? Kudos to you.

     
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    That being said...hopefully he doesn't get talked up too much and can still be had in the third round. 

     
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    Saw McShay talk up Jarvis Landry on SportsCenter big time today. Must feel good to have identified a player before the media machine, huh MB? Kudos to you.


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    Haha, I mighta just lucked out and got to his tape first!


    But I'm with ya... would have no problem taking him in Rd 2, but he's an absolute steal in Rd 3.

     
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    Just my opinion, but I think that the "high risk" label associated with Hageman is being somewhat overblown.  "Raw" tends to concern me more with linebackers offense of lineman wide receivers and quarterbacks.  I think the size and athleticism that Hageman possesses will make him at the very worst an average defensive lineman.  However, with the right coaching and work ethic which I have heard he has, I think you will be a very special player.  


     


     


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    I think the thing is it's hard to predict what a player will be. Professional scouts and GMs can do that (sometimes), but it's hard for people like us (at least me). I appreciate the GMs that can see what a player will be in two years, compared to what I do...look at what they are right now. In the end it's harder - and better - to forecast these guys, but those guys usually end up being the better pros with coaching. Hageman definitely could be that guy.

     
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