***2014 PATRIOTS DRAFT THREAD***

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     Sup Guys,


    Man I have a lot of catching up to do, been going to interviews doing the job search thing.   Been looking at a lot of mocks yesterday and this morning and I still dont get some of the picks of QBs with huge ???s picked in top 10 when there are such talent like Matthews Watkins ect.  Just don't see it.  


    There are something like 18 QBs in this year's draft with a drafteble grade doesn't mean they are all 1st rounds just means they have the tools to get drafted somewhere in the draft.


    If I were a GM would I pass up a chance to take a safer bet on a LT or WR who are viewed across the board and an All Pro or QB who is not a Luck type player.  So where am I going with this, I think the QB run begins in mid 20s maybe 1 possibly 2 get taken in top 10 but to me that will be too many.  Bortles is the only one I would say he's worth that risk.  


    So with a potential QB frenzy 25 to 40 how many times can the pats trade back a bit and still get their guys?  


    I still believe the DT pick based on where I think the Pats will make their first selection is DeQuan Jones and I still believe Norwood would come in and sit Thompkins and give Dobson a run for his money as a #1 target outside. :)


     


     


     

     
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    In response to natesubs' comment:


    My final mock draft:


     


    1st - traded along with a 6th for 2nd, 3rd and 5th.  I think there will be teams wanting to trade up for a late 1st QB such as Carr


     


    2nd (trade) Tuitt, DT, Notre Dame - will fall due to injury


     


    2nd - Carlos Hyde, RB, OSU- value will fall due to RB by committe approach the league has taken


     


    3rd (trade) - deone Bucannon, SS, Washington State


     


    3rd - Troy Niklas, TE, Notre Dame or CJ Fiedorowicz, TE, Iowa


     


    4th -David Yankey, OG stanford or Travis Swanson, C, Arkansas


     


    4th (comp) - Daniel McCullers, DT, Tenn.


     


    5th (trade) - Max Bullough, ILB, Michigan State


     


    6th (from Philly) - Logan Thomas, QB, Virginia Tech


     


    6th (ours) traded----------


     


    7th - Colt Lyera, TE, Oregon - to say he has issues would be an understatement but with a TE already selected earlier I would be wiling to take a risk on him especially if we signed dustin Keller


     


    UDFA priority -
    Kenny Guiton, QB, OSU








    with enough thrust, pigs fly just fine!





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    Except for Lyera I would gladly take that. But, because of Lyera you'll have to scrap the entire draft and start over

     
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    My final mock draft:


     


    1st - traded along with a 6th for 2nd, 3rd and 5th.  I think there will be teams wanting to trade up for a late 1st QB such as Carr


     


    2nd (trade) Tuitt, DT, Notre Dame - will fall due to injury


     


    2nd - Carlos Hyde, RB, OSU- value will fall due to RB by committe approach the league has taken


     


    3rd (trade) - deone Bucannon, SS, Washington State


     


    3rd - Troy Niklas, TE, Notre Dame or CJ Fiedorowicz, TE, Iowa


     


    4th -David Yankey, OG stanford or Travis Swanson, C, Arkansas


     


    4th (comp) - Daniel McCullers, DT, Tenn.


     


    5th (trade) - Max Bullough, ILB, Michigan State


     


    6th (from Philly) - Logan Thomas, QB, Virginia Tech


     


    6th (ours) traded----------


     


    7th - Colt Lyera, TE, Oregon - to say he has issues would be an understatement but with a TE already selected earlier I would be wiling to take a risk on him especially if we signed dustin Keller


     


    UDFA priority -
    Kenny Guiton, QB, OSU








    with enough thrust, pigs fly just fine!





    I think the Rd 3/4 picks are a little optimistic, and I want nothing to do with Lyerla, value or not, but if things fall this way, I think fans will/should be very excited.

     
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    Kenny Guiton, QB, OSU








    with enough thrust, pigs fly just fine!


     





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    Except for Lyera I would gladly take that. But, because of Lyera you'll have to scrap the entire draft and start over



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     Sup Guys,


     


     


     


    Man I have a lot of catching up to do, been going to interviews doing the job search thing.   Been looking at a lot of mocks yesterday and this morning and I still dont get some of the picks of QBs with huge ???s picked in top 10 when there are such talent like Matthews Watkins ect.  Just don't see it.  


     


     


     


    There are something like 18 QBs in this year's draft with a drafteble grade doesn't mean they are all 1st rounds just means they have the tools to get drafted somewhere in the draft.


     


     


     


    If I were a GM would I pass up a chance to take a safer bet on a LT or WR who are viewed across the board and an All Pro or QB who is not a Luck type player.  So where am I going with this, I think the QB run begins in mid 20s maybe 1 possibly 2 get taken in top 10 but to me that will be too many.  Bortles is the only one I would say he's worth that risk.  


     


     


     


    So with a potential QB frenzy 25 to 40 how many times can the pats trade back a bit and still get their guys?  


     


     


     


    I still believe the DT pick based on where I think the Pats will make their first selection is DeQuan Jones and I still believe Norwood would come in and sit Thompkins and give Dobson a run for his money as a #1 target outside. :)


     



     


     



     


     


     


     


     


     





    I hear ya, just a matter of how highly the personnel folks for the teams without legit #1 QB's feel about these prospects... but you could be right on when the run starts.


     


    Your boy Norwood would be a nice addition in the middle rounds.


     


     

     
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    Sup Guys,


    Man I have a lot of catching up to do, been going to interviews doing the job search thing.   Been looking at a lot of mocks yesterday and this morning and I still dont get some of the picks of QBs with huge ???s picked in top 10 when there are such talent like Matthews Watkins ect.  Just don't see it.  


    There are something like 18 QBs in this year's draft with a drafteble grade doesn't mean they are all 1st rounds just means they have the tools to get drafted somewhere in the draft.


    If I were a GM would I pass up a chance to take a safer bet on a LT or WR who are viewed across the board and an All Pro or QB who is not a Luck type player.  So where am I going with this, I think the QB run begins in mid 20s maybe 1 possibly 2 get taken in top 10 but to me that will be too many.  Bortles is the only one I would say he's worth that risk.  


    So with a potential QB frenzy 25 to 40 how many times can the pats trade back a bit and still get their guys?  


    I still believe the DT pick based on where I think the Pats will make their first selection is DeQuan Jones and I still believe Norwood would come in and sit Thompkins and give Dobson a run for his money as a #1 target outside. :)




    I would love a haul that includes D Jones and Norwood. The thing is Jones did not have a visit with the Pats. IDK about Norwood. Does the Pats take people they did not have contact with?


    On QBs... I have heard that comment several times (that there is no legit round 1 or top 10 QB in the draft). I am really curious why people say that. I guess I wonder what people have in mind for a top 10 pick QB. An Andrew Luck? That QB comes out once every 10-13 years.


    People say Manziel is not a round 1 QB. I ask... Despite a 2 inch height difference, did RGIII really do that much more than Manziel that RGIII deserved to be graded a full round higher? I think Manziel proved he can pass the ball. I would argue that, despite the running he does, Manziel actually shows better judgment when it comes to protecting himself from getting hurt. It's not guarantee that he will not get hurt, but he seems more aware of the risk when he runs. He dives earlier.


    I understand if he's not your type of QB. He's not mine.


    Expanding more


    Bortles... was Tannehill's performance in college much better than Bortles'? Bortles can run a really good drive with less than 2 mins to go and his team behind needing a TD. He did that against Bridgewater's D.


    Was Weeden, Ponder or Locker much better in college than Bridgewater or Carr? And I do think Carr and Bridgewater are better than Dalton.


     

     
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    Hey guys!  This isn't my final mock, but rather a simulation of what I think BB is actually going to do this weekend.  Many of you won't be totally thrilled with this draft, but are we ever totally thrilled with any draft?


    29)  Dominigue Easley   DT    Florida   Yeah, there is a lot of talk about this pick, and that usually means it won't happen.  I hope it doesn't.  I hate his knee injuries and think he is way too big of a health risk.  His stock is definitely rising, though, and IF he is medically cleared he might very well be the best DT in this draft.  This is a huge gamble, I wouldn't do it, but I'm thinking that BB probably will.


    *** #62 traded to STL for #75 & #110 ***


    75) (from STL)  Trent Murphy  DE/OLB  Stanford  Who likes falling players better than BB?  I think Murphy is going to slide a little, but this is terrific value.  He would fit right in and provide Nink and/or/Chandler some much needed relief.


    93)  Aaron Lynch  OLB  USF   Wow.  Too early, I know.  But this kid has the talent to warrant this pick if BB is comfortable with his character.  Belichick worked out the USF kids personally, and he has a history of selecting Florida kids.  Maybe a reach, but it is Belichick we are talking about here.


    110)  (from STL)  Jeremy Hill  RB  LSU  We need a RB.  That is clear.  I think one of the top guys will fall due to the de-valuing of the RB position.  Again, who loves falling players more than BB?  Hill has a lot of potential to be a very good runner in the NFL.


    130)  Jon Halapio  OG  Florida    NE is almost certain to find interior OL help at some point in this draft.  Halapio is not a name we have talked much about, but he is a bit of an under-the-radar prospect with great size and plenty of upside. 


    140)  (Comp)  Craig Loston  LSU  SS    Another value pick.  Loston could come off the board much earlier, but many experts think this is his range.  He is as physical player with some coverage limitations, but I think he is the type of player our defense needs.


    198)  Tajh Boyd  QB  Clemson   I really believe BB takes a QB at some point.  Boyd has a slew of issues that will cause him to fall, namely his height, but there is something about him that makes me think he could be worth a look.  The guy certainly had some nice moments at Clemson.


    206)  AC Leonard  TE  Tennessee St.  A "Move TE" from a small school.  Leonard has plenty of athleticism, but his dedication is a question mark.  If NE can focus him and get the most out of him, he could make the 53 Man Roster and be a surprise contributer.


    244)  Jeremy Gallon  WR  Michigan   There is too much WR talent in this draft not to take one.  We all want the big, 6'3" outside WR, but I think BB has faith in Dobson/LaFell.  He loves drafting these small, quick guys, and frankly we could use a good, developmental slot WR to back Edelman up.  BB loves Michigan kids, too.  Gallon could be on his radar.


    What do you think?   Not the flashiest draft, and it would leave me feeling a little bit discouraged, but the picks here do make a lot of sense.  Some falling prospects, a couple of character questions, an injury gamble, value picks, and at LEAST one trade (likely will be more).  This is as close as I can get to guessing what BB will actually do in this class, and I'm probably not even close!  :)

     
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    I would really like to see the pats get "Dee Ford" in the First Round and also Charles Sims in the 2nd or 3rd... I think Dee Ford is going to be a Play Maker in the NFL. Love his Attitude. 

     
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    I would really like to see the pats get "Dee Ford" in the First Round and also Charles Sims in the 2nd or 3rd... I think Dee Ford is going to be a Play Maker in the NFL. Love his Attitude. 




    Kid is def explosive off the edge and can rush the passer.

     
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    Hey guys!  This isn't my final mock, but rather a simulation of what I think BB is actually going to do this weekend.  Many of you won't be totally thrilled with this draft, but are we ever totally thrilled with any draft?


     


    29)  Dominigue Easley   DT    Florida   Yeah, there is a lot of talk about this pick, and that usually means it won't happen.  I hope it doesn't.  I hate his knee injuries and think he is way too big of a health risk.  His stock is definitely rising, though, and IF he is medically cleared he might very well be the best DT in this draft.  This is a huge gamble, I wouldn't do it, but I'm thinking that BB probably will.


     


    *** #62 traded to STL for #75 & #110 ***


     


    75) (from STL)  Trent Murphy  DE/OLB  Stanford  Who likes falling players better than BB?  I think Murphy is going to slide a little, but this is terrific value.  He would fit right in and provide Nink and/or/Chandler some much needed relief.


     


    93)  Aaron Lynch  OLB  USF   Wow.  Too early, I know.  But this kid has the talent to warrant this pick if BB is comfortable with his character.  Belichick worked out the USF kids personally, and he has a history of selecting Florida kids.  Maybe a reach, but it is Belichick we are talking about here.


     


    110)  (from STL)  Jeremy Hill  RB  LSU  We need a RB.  That is clear.  I think one of the top guys will fall due to the de-valuing of the RB position.  Again, who loves falling players more than BB?  Hill has a lot of potential to be a very good runner in the NFL.


     


    130)  Jon Halapio  OG  Florida    NE is almost certain to find interior OL help at some point in this draft.  Halapio is not a name we have talked much about, but he is a bit of an under-the-radar prospect with great size and plenty of upside. 


     


    140)  (Comp)  Craig Loston  LSU  SS    Another value pick.  Loston could come off the board much earlier, but many experts think this is his range.  He is as physical player with some coverage limitations, but I think he is the type of player our defense needs.


     


    198)  Tajh Boyd  QB  Clemson   I really believe BB takes a QB at some point.  Boyd has a slew of issues that will cause him to fall, namely his height, but there is something about him that makes me think he could be worth a look.  The guy certainly had some nice moments at Clemson.


     


    206)  AC Leonard  TE  Tennessee St.  A "Move TE" from a small school.  Leonard has plenty of athleticism, but his dedication is a question mark.  If NE can focus him and get the most out of him, he could make the 53 Man Roster and be a surprise contributer.


     


    244)  Jeremy Gallon  WR  Michigan   There is too much WR talent in this draft not to take one.  We all want the big, 6'3" outside WR, but I think BB has faith in Dobson/LaFell.  He loves drafting these small, quick guys, and frankly we could use a good, developmental slot WR to back Edelman up.  BB loves Michigan kids, too.  Gallon could be on his radar.


     


    What do you think?   Not the flashiest draft, and it would leave me feeling a little bit discouraged, but the picks here do make a lot of sense.  Some falling prospects, a couple of character questions, an injury gamble, value picks, and at LEAST one trade (likely will be more).  This is as close as I can get to guessing what BB will actually do in this class, and I'm probably not even close!  :)




    I hate the Aaron Lynch pick (would rather see Hill there or even a WR) and don't see them going back to back edge players on Day 2, but the rest of the class would be very good.


    I just give you credit for mocking the one guy you don't want to NE, haha.

     
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    I would really like to see the pats get "Dee Ford" in the First Round and also Charles Sims in the 2nd or 3rd... I think Dee Ford is going to be a Play Maker in the NFL. Love his Attitude. 


     




    Kid is def explosive off the edge and can rush the passer.




    He definitely is.. if you was BB Would you take him with the 29 pick?

     
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    Hey guys!  This isn't my final mock, but rather a simulation of what I think BB is actually going to do this weekend.  Many of you won't be totally thrilled with this draft, but are we ever totally thrilled with any draft?


     


     


     


    29)  Dominigue Easley   DT    Florida   Yeah, there is a lot of talk about this pick, and that usually means it won't happen.  I hope it doesn't.  I hate his knee injuries and think he is way too big of a health risk.  His stock is definitely rising, though, and IF he is medically cleared he might very well be the best DT in this draft.  This is a huge gamble, I wouldn't do it, but I'm thinking that BB probably will.


     


     


     


    *** #62 traded to STL for #75 & #110 ***


     


     


     


    75) (from STL)  Trent Murphy  DE/OLB  Stanford  Who likes falling players better than BB?  I think Murphy is going to slide a little, but this is terrific value.  He would fit right in and provide Nink and/or/Chandler some much needed relief.


     


     


     


    93)  Aaron Lynch  OLB  USF   Wow.  Too early, I know.  But this kid has the talent to warrant this pick if BB is comfortable with his character.  Belichick worked out the USF kids personally, and he has a history of selecting Florida kids.  Maybe a reach, but it is Belichick we are talking about here.


     


     


     


    110)  (from STL)  Jeremy Hill  RB  LSU  We need a RB.  That is clear.  I think one of the top guys will fall due to the de-valuing of the RB position.  Again, who loves falling players more than BB?  Hill has a lot of potential to be a very good runner in the NFL.


     


     


     


    130)  Jon Halapio  OG  Florida    NE is almost certain to find interior OL help at some point in this draft.  Halapio is not a name we have talked much about, but he is a bit of an under-the-radar prospect with great size and plenty of upside. 


     


     


     


    140)  (Comp)  Craig Loston  LSU  SS    Another value pick.  Loston could come off the board much earlier, but many experts think this is his range.  He is as physical player with some coverage limitations, but I think he is the type of player our defense needs.


     


     


     


    198)  Tajh Boyd  QB  Clemson   I really believe BB takes a QB at some point.  Boyd has a slew of issues that will cause him to fall, namely his height, but there is something about him that makes me think he could be worth a look.  The guy certainly had some nice moments at Clemson.


     


     


     


    206)  AC Leonard  TE  Tennessee St.  A "Move TE" from a small school.  Leonard has plenty of athleticism, but his dedication is a question mark.  If NE can focus him and get the most out of him, he could make the 53 Man Roster and be a surprise contributer.


     


     


     


    244)  Jeremy Gallon  WR  Michigan   There is too much WR talent in this draft not to take one.  We all want the big, 6'3" outside WR, but I think BB has faith in Dobson/LaFell.  He loves drafting these small, quick guys, and frankly we could use a good, developmental slot WR to back Edelman up.  BB loves Michigan kids, too.  Gallon could be on his radar.


     


     


     


    What do you think?   Not the flashiest draft, and it would leave me feeling a little bit discouraged, but the picks here do make a lot of sense.  Some falling prospects, a couple of character questions, an injury gamble, value picks, and at LEAST one trade (likely will be more).  This is as close as I can get to guessing what BB will actually do in this class, and I'm probably not even close!  :)


     




    While I love Easley and think he's worth a #1 for us, his knees mean he will be available min rd.2, maybe even rd. 3. I've never seen a guy with that combination of strength, natural, playing strength, and quickness in pads ever. He's a beast if he stays healthy.


     


    Picks I like - Murphy, Hill, Halapio


     


    Picks I question - Boyd (We usually go "formula"  with QB's: height and scheme, pocket passer)


     


                              Leonard (I think we need a blocking TE who has the ability to catch a few...Leonard is more of                              a "move" TE with questionable motivation)


     


                              Gallon (Yes, I think we take a WR but not a slot guy because we have Boyce as a backup)

     
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    In response to WazzuWheatfarmer's comment:


     


    Hey guys!  This isn't my final mock, but rather a simulation of what I think BB is actually going to do this weekend.  Many of you won't be totally thrilled with this draft, but are we ever totally thrilled with any draft?


     


     


     


    29)  Dominigue Easley   DT    Florida   Yeah, there is a lot of talk about this pick, and that usually means it won't happen.  I hope it doesn't.  I hate his knee injuries and think he is way too big of a health risk.  His stock is definitely rising, though, and IF he is medically cleared he might very well be the best DT in this draft.  This is a huge gamble, I wouldn't do it, but I'm thinking that BB probably will.


     


     


     


    *** #62 traded to STL for #75 & #110 ***


     


     


     


    75) (from STL)  Trent Murphy  DE/OLB  Stanford  Who likes falling players better than BB?  I think Murphy is going to slide a little, but this is terrific value.  He would fit right in and provide Nink and/or/Chandler some much needed relief.


     


     


     


    93)  Aaron Lynch  OLB  USF   Wow.  Too early, I know.  But this kid has the talent to warrant this pick if BB is comfortable with his character.  Belichick worked out the USF kids personally, and he has a history of selecting Florida kids.  Maybe a reach, but it is Belichick we are talking about here.


     


     


     


    110)  (from STL)  Jeremy Hill  RB  LSU  We need a RB.  That is clear.  I think one of the top guys will fall due to the de-valuing of the RB position.  Again, who loves falling players more than BB?  Hill has a lot of potential to be a very good runner in the NFL.


     


     


     


    130)  Jon Halapio  OG  Florida    NE is almost certain to find interior OL help at some point in this draft.  Halapio is not a name we have talked much about, but he is a bit of an under-the-radar prospect with great size and plenty of upside. 


     


     


     


    140)  (Comp)  Craig Loston  LSU  SS    Another value pick.  Loston could come off the board much earlier, but many experts think this is his range.  He is as physical player with some coverage limitations, but I think he is the type of player our defense needs.


     


     


     


    198)  Tajh Boyd  QB  Clemson   I really believe BB takes a QB at some point.  Boyd has a slew of issues that will cause him to fall, namely his height, but there is something about him that makes me think he could be worth a look.  The guy certainly had some nice moments at Clemson.


     


     


     


    206)  AC Leonard  TE  Tennessee St.  A "Move TE" from a small school.  Leonard has plenty of athleticism, but his dedication is a question mark.  If NE can focus him and get the most out of him, he could make the 53 Man Roster and be a surprise contributer.


     


     


     


    244)  Jeremy Gallon  WR  Michigan   There is too much WR talent in this draft not to take one.  We all want the big, 6'3" outside WR, but I think BB has faith in Dobson/LaFell.  He loves drafting these small, quick guys, and frankly we could use a good, developmental slot WR to back Edelman up.  BB loves Michigan kids, too.  Gallon could be on his radar.


     


     


     


    What do you think?   Not the flashiest draft, and it would leave me feeling a little bit discouraged, but the picks here do make a lot of sense.  Some falling prospects, a couple of character questions, an injury gamble, value picks, and at LEAST one trade (likely will be more).  This is as close as I can get to guessing what BB will actually do in this class, and I'm probably not even close!  :)


     




    I hate the Aaron Lynch pick (would rather see Hill there or even a WR) and don't see them going back to back edge players on Day 2, but the rest of the class would be very good.


     


    I just give you credit for mocking the one guy you don't want to NE, haha.




    HaHa!  Yeah, Thanks Man.  I just have this nagging feeling that the rumors will come true this time.  Seems like kind of a Belichick move.

     
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    Here's the first of the smoke screen diversions, the Patriots have signed Will Smith DE from the Saints to a deal terms of the contract weren't released the source is Field Yates of Boston ESPN and can be found on Profootballrumors.com.


    I wouldn't be surprised if BB signs Keller tomorrow!


     

     
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    Here's the first of the smoke screen diversions, the Patriots have signed Will Smith DE from the Saints to a deal terms of the contract weren't released the source is Field Yates of Boston ESPN and can be found on Profootballrumors.com.


     


    I wouldn't be surprised if BB signs Keller tomorrow!


     


     





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    Not sure that's much of a smoke screen, lol. An aging rusher coming off an ACL who might only be used in sub rushing roles I don't think would prevent them from grabbing a long term solution in day 2 and I'm sure most teams would feel the same way. Not like they grab Author Jones and won't be looking at DT anymore. Same with Keller really. Pretty much only fans might look at that and say, we're all set at that position now. Though it might mean they don't need to double dip at the position unless they find some real heavy talent in the late rounds who fell.

     
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    Been seeing a lot of negativity on David Yankey.  Man, some saying undraftable. He is not perfect, but I think that is over the top.


    An anonymous NFL scout called Stanford OG David Yankey undraftable.
    "I must not know what the heck I'm doing," the scout told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. "He's one of the most disappointing guys I saw. I see that guy get pushed around, then he ran 5.5 at the combine. You've got to be kidding me. Free agent." Yankey, considered by some the top OG prospect during the season, has seen his stock deflate since it ended. He's consistent at being inconsistent," another scout said. "There's a lot of want there, but I just think he's nonathletic. He's a stiff guy. That bothers me. But you know what? There's so many in the league like that. I don't like him." A third scout was more complimentary: "A real battler. Generally a good anchor. Gets careless with head duck and will lunge. A Stanford kid will do what he needs to do to be successful." May 3 - 7:39 PM


    http://www.rotoworld.com/player/cfb/132151/david-yankey

     
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    So, I thought I had my final mock. But I keep thinking, Jax probably wont take Johnny which means Cleveland will. Changes everything. ugh


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    A guy I'd like to see us draft on the third day is Christian Jones, linebacker from Florida State. He just looks real versatile too me...he has played end, inside backer and outside backer. If he were to get a little stronger (which you'd think would happen), he may turn into a very good player. He's got the frame and quickness to develop and it looks like he loves football.

     
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    A guy I'd like to see us draft on the third day is Christian Jones, linebacker from Florida State. He just looks real versatile too me...he has played end, inside backer and outside backer. If he were to get a little stronger (which you'd think would happen), he may turn into a very good player. He's got the frame and quickness to develop and it looks like he loves football.




    I don't know a lot about him, but I do know that Belichick worked out the FSU guys personally.  He will definitely have done his homework on him.

     
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    A guy I'd like to see us draft on the third day is Christian Jones, linebacker from Florida State. He just looks real versatile too me...he has played end, inside backer and outside backer. If he were to get a little stronger (which you'd think would happen), he may turn into a very good player. He's got the frame and quickness to develop and it looks like he loves football.



    I like him in that range as well.

     
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    Been seeing a lot of negativity on David Yankey.  Man, some saying undraftable. He is not perfect, but I think that is over the top.


     


     


     


    An anonymous NFL scout called Stanford OG David Yankey undraftable.
    "I must not know what the heck I'm doing," the scout told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. "He's one of the most disappointing guys I saw. I see that guy get pushed around, then he ran 5.5 at the combine. You've got to be kidding me. Free agent." Yankey, considered by some the top OG prospect during the season, has seen his stock deflate since it ended. He's consistent at being inconsistent," another scout said. "There's a lot of want there, but I just think he's nonathletic. He's a stiff guy. That bothers me. But you know what? There's so many in the league like that. I don't like him." A third scout was more complimentary: "A real battler. Generally a good anchor. Gets careless with head duck and will lunge. A Stanford kid will do what he needs to do to be successful." May 3 - 7:39 PM


     


     


     


    http://www.rotoworld.com/player/cfb/132151/david-yankey" rel="nofollow">http://www.rotoworld.com/player/cfb/132151/david-yankey" rel="nofollow">http://www.rotoworld.com/player/cfb/132151/david-yankey


     





    That's some interesting commentary... I think you have to take anything you hear this close to the draft with a grain of salt, but it's interesting nonetheless.

     
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    The more I watch Stephon Tuitt, the more I like him...he's a tough guy to handle for an offensive lineman...just big, with a nice blend of power mixed in with decent quickness for a guy his size. I don't like the comparisons to Seymour though - Seymour was a different type when he came out - I remember him lining up next to Marcus Stroud and Seymour was the guy who could change direction and was more explosive of the two (although I really liked Stroud too). I don't really see the change of direction/explosiveness in Tuitt's game, but I do see the strength. Honestly he kind of reminds me more of Stroud. Tuitt has these long arms that I've seen him just knock people over with, he does a very good job slapping the offensive lineman's hands away and can peel off a block and drag down a runner with one arm...pretty impressive show of strength. And for a guy his size I've seen him spin off a tackle and surge to the quarterback...again impressive stuff, but I just don't see the Seymour comparison, at least when Seymour was coming out...maybe the Seymour as he aged, but not the kid coming out of Georgia.




    I read that Tuitt played last year with 15 more pounds of weight and it slowed him down a little. Playing closer to 305 or with better trainer might mean a more explosive player.


     

     
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    The more I watch Stephon Tuitt, the more I like him...he's a tough guy to handle for an offensive lineman...just big, with a nice blend of power mixed in with decent quickness for a guy his size. I don't like the comparisons to Seymour though - Seymour was a different type when he came out - I remember him lining up next to Marcus Stroud and Seymour was the guy who could change direction and was more explosive of the two (although I really liked Stroud too). I don't really see the change of direction/explosiveness in Tuitt's game, but I do see the strength. Honestly he kind of reminds me more of Stroud. Tuitt has these long arms that I've seen him just knock people over with, he does a very good job slapping the offensive lineman's hands away and can peel off a block and drag down a runner with one arm...pretty impressive show of strength. And for a guy his size I've seen him spin off a tackle and surge to the quarterback...again impressive stuff, but I just don't see the Seymour comparison, at least when Seymour was coming out...maybe the Seymour as he aged, but not the kid coming out of Georgia.


     




    I read that Tuitt played last year with 15 more pounds of weight and it slowed him down a little. Playing closer to 305 or with better trainer might mean a more explosive player.


     


     




    Try finding videos of him in 2012, when he was about 300-304 lbs. draftbreakdown might have some. He was nasty then.

     
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    A guy I'd like to see us draft on the third day is Christian Jones, linebacker from Florida State. He just looks real versatile too me...he has played end, inside backer and outside backer. If he were to get a little stronger (which you'd think would happen), he may turn into a very good player. He's got the frame and quickness to develop and it looks like he loves football.


     


     


     




    I don't know a lot about him, but I do know that Belichick worked out the FSU guys personally.  He will definitely have done his homework on him.


     




    Didn't know that, but it makes sense, their defense was nasty last year. I really could picture us taking Jones somewhere later in the draft - the kid's versatile - and we all know how much Bill loves that.

     
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    The more I watch Stephon Tuitt, the more I like him...he's a tough guy to handle for an offensive lineman...just big, with a nice blend of power mixed in with decent quickness for a guy his size. I don't like the comparisons to Seymour though - Seymour was a different type when he came out - I remember him lining up next to Marcus Stroud and Seymour was the guy who could change direction and was more explosive of the two (although I really liked Stroud too). I don't really see the change of direction/explosiveness in Tuitt's game, but I do see the strength. Honestly he kind of reminds me more of Stroud. Tuitt has these long arms that I've seen him just knock people over with, he does a very good job slapping the offensive lineman's hands away and can peel off a block and drag down a runner with one arm...pretty impressive show of strength. And for a guy his size I've seen him spin off a tackle and surge to the quarterback...again impressive stuff, but I just don't see the Seymour comparison, at least when Seymour was coming out...maybe the Seymour as he aged, but not the kid coming out of Georgia.


     


     


     




    I read that Tuitt played last year with 15 more pounds of weight and it slowed him down a little. Playing closer to 305 or with better trainer might mean a more explosive player.


     


     


     


     


     




    Try finding videos of him in 2012, when he was about 300-304 lbs. draftbreakdown might have some. He was nasty then.




    Yeah he was better then, between the foot injury and the added weight there is concerns about this kid, but I still like him.

     
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