***2014 PATRIOTS DRAFT THREAD***

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    In response to mellymel3's comment:


     


    Fleming might be tried inside as well as RT...he's a huge guy...wonder if that means they are worried about Seabass' leg? 


     





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    Or they View cannon as a guard long term... I see a solder,mankins,stork,cannon,seabass O line in the near future. With the new tackle they just picked up as a backup to solder and seabass.

     
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    Disclosure : I'm one of those BB fans that LOVES when he trades back and acquires draft capitol .


    That said this may be the most frustrating Pats Draft I 've ever witnessed .


     Who knows ? ..a couple years from now (when most of the guys BB took today are major contributors )


    We'll look back and say "Forgive me Bill ...we're not worthy " .


     


    But it's also possible that we look back and say :


    " 2014 was the draft where BB had a chance to go for gold and instead let Rome burn"


    ( tho more like rusted away)


     


    WE SHALL SEE .


     


     

     
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    Patriots only use three linebackers. 


    How many do they really need? Until Mayo's injury, they had a logjam last season. 


     Per taking a tackle: there is no reason to think he will be a tackle more than a guard. OL drafts outside in. Low ranked tackles can double as "deal" guards all the time. 


     
     
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    In response to mellymel3's comment:


    Fleming might be tried inside as well as RT...he's a huge guy...wonder if that means they are worried about Seabass' leg? 





    Yeah, big kid... long arms... def not a fit from a 3C/SS perspective... very slow times... smart kid though and a ton of experience.


     

     
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    In response to CaptFoxboro's comment:


    Disclosure : I'm one of those BB fans that LOVES when he trades back and acquires draft capitol .


     


    That said this may be the most frustrating Pats Draft I 've ever witnessed .


     


     Who knows ? ..a couple years from now (when most of the guys BB took today are major contributors )


     


    We'll look back and say "Forgive me Bill ...we're not worthy " .


     


     


     


    But it's also possible that we look back and say :


     


    " 2014 was the draft where BB had a chance to go for gold and instead let Rome burn"


     


    ( tho more like rusted away)


     


     


     


    WE SHALL SEE .


     


     


     


     





    Beautifully put..lol

     
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    I still expect bb to grab another DT and a WR. He obviously will do it later. Not sure why he hasn't grabbed a Lb? 


     


    With all our 6-7 picks and not many if any open roster spots, I would have traded them to move up in rou d 4. Maybe that's unlike bb. He likes to have picks in all rounds in case someone falls through the cracks. Urban to the ravens makes me want to throw up.





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    That I'm confused about too. We have zero depth there, and no I don't count the Rutgers guy from last year as depth. My only guess is they really like the BC kids they brought in earlier in the 6th maybe? But disappointing they didn't cover a lot of areas that we all thought could use immediate help as either a starter or primary backup (ie TE, WR, LB, DE, SS) 

     
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    Patriots only use three linebackers. 


     


     


     


    How many do they really need? Until Mayo's injury, they had a logjam last season. 


     


     


     


     Per taking a tackle: there is no reason to think he will be a tackle more than a guard. OL drafts outside in. Low ranked tackles can double as "deal" guards all the time. 


     



     




    Guess it all depends on how they view Beauharnais... would seem they could use (1) more at the position after loosing Spikes/Fletcher in FA... maybe an athletic LB/S hybrid with some versatility and coverage ability like Arizona's Marquise Flowers later today.


     


    Agree and we know BB loves that positional versatility upfront.

     
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    Patriots only use three linebackers. 


     


    How many do they really need? Until Mayo's injury, they had a logjam last season. 


     


     Per taking a tackle: there is no reason to think he will be a tackle more than a guard. OL drafts outside in. Low ranked tackles can double as "deal" guards all the time. 



     




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    enough to back up the 3 they use to spell them. Looking at the LB's there is a major major drop off between those 3 and the next ones down (who were used basically only as STers). The lose of Fletcher was a big one. Last year Fletcher, Spikes, Mayo, Hightower, Collins took over 95% of snaps at LB and you just lost 2, you need a solid #4 or you run the risk of having no one if someone gets injured or as with DE last year wearing down your starters to the point they can't do their jobs in the playoffs

     
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    http://grantland.com/features/cameron-fleming-stanford-nf-draft/

     
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    I like Drafting smart kids. Highly intelligent, is more what I meant.

     
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    In response to zbellino's comment:


     


    Patriots only use three linebackers. 


     


     


     


    How many do they really need? Until Mayo's injury, they had a logjam last season. 


     


     


     


     Per taking a tackle: there is no reason to think he will be a tackle more than a guard. OL drafts outside in. Low ranked tackles can double as "deal" guards all the time. 


     



     




    Guess it all depends on how they view Beauharnais... would seem they could use (1) more at the position for a total of (5) after loosing Spikes/Fletcher in FA... maybe an athletic LB/S hybrid with some versatility and coverage ability like Arizona's Marquise Flowers later today.


     


    Agree and we know BB loves that positional versatility upfront.




    Yes, both Stevie B and Josh Hull. Maybe they think both of these kids are better than what they can get later in the draft

     
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    couldn't they use Nink at LB if needed it seems like a lot of DL now on the roster?

     
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    This is going to be one of those drafts that if we win the SB no one will care, if we lose and players we passed on could have made a difference people will kill, and in 3-4 years it feels like one that maybe 3-4 players will be left on the team but the will contribute something and some will praise them for finding people while others will see everything they passed on and say what could have been. But I think most will agree no one feels great about this one. I have a feeling most feel meh about it. Not bad but not good either, just guys that add depth anda gamble on a guy to stay healthy. Really that's what this draft will boil down to Easley and Garop. If Garop becomes Rodgers it willbe praised and if Easley becomes Ralphe even better but if Easley becomes Emtman and Garop never sees the field BB will be killed for this one.



    I swear by lil 10 pound bearded baby Jesus

     
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    couldn't they use Nink at LB if needed it seems like a lot of DL now on the roster?





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    Could they sure, but do they wan too. Lets face it those backups haven't shown anything special and really almost everyone outside of the starters are question marks how they would do long term. I mean Jones and Vellano were so great BB traded for Soap and signed Siliga on his 4th team in 3 years? Nink to OLB would be a last ditch move really.

     
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    In response to kirby1fl's comment:


     


    couldn't they use Nink at LB if needed it seems like a lot of DL now on the roster?


     





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    Could they sure, but do they wan too. Lets face it those backups haven't shown anything special and really almost everyone outside of the starters are question marks how they would do long term. I mean Jones and Vellano were so great BB traded for Soap and signed Siliga on his 4th team in 3 years? Nink to OLB would be a last ditch move really.





     
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    Nink is so good at the DE position that it'd be disappointing to move him off the position. Right now, LB depth still needed, but you can get good ones late in a draft and there are still decent backups available in FA.

     
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    I guess that is what I meant in regards to saying they only have 3 LB , I agree they don't want to but if there was an injury could do it and Maybe Smith, Easley or Armstead on the edge. I still think they will draft or bring in a couple of LBs to camp.

     
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    After Cannon, we only had undrafted depth. Really like the Fleming pickup. Always nice to get a smart player who was projected to go earlier than when you take him.

     
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    I guess that is what I meant in regards to saying they only have 3 LB , I agree they don't want to but if there was an injury could do it and Maybe Smith, Easley or Armstead on the edge. I still think they will draft or bring in a couple of LBs to camp.




    For sure. Just hoping they find different solutions than moving Nink to LB. Could also see some 3 safety formations as well. I've always felt that Chung played his best in the box.


     
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    Re: ***2014 PATRIOTS DRAFT THREAD***

    For what it's worth:


     


    Rich Hill @PP_Rich_Hill
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    Looks like Atlanta offered 68 and 147 for New England's 62. Which is a fair trade. Patriots opted to take Garoppolo.
    2:02 AM - 10 May 2014


    http://www.patspulpit.com/2014/5/10/5702598/patriots-mulled-trade-with-atlanta-before-picking-jimmy-garoppolo

     
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    Re: ***2014 PATRIOTS DRAFT THREAD***

    In response to PatsEng's comment:


    In response to zbellino's comment:


     


    Patriots only use three linebackers. 


     


     


     


    How many do they really need? Until Mayo's injury, they had a logjam last season. 


     


     


     


     Per taking a tackle: there is no reason to think he will be a tackle more than a guard. OL drafts outside in. Low ranked tackles can double as "deal" guards all the time. 


     



     




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    enough to back up the 3 they use to spell them. Looking at the LB's there is a major major drop off between those 3 and the next ones down (who were used basically only as STers). The lose of Fletcher was a big one. Last year Fletcher, Spikes, Mayo, Hightower, Collins took over 95% of snaps at LB and you just lost 2, you need a solid #4 or you run the risk of having no one if someone gets injured or as with DE last year wearing down your starters to the point they can't do their jobs in the playoffs





    If all you need is a backup, grab one on the FA wire. 


    A mid round LBer is not going to help you out in all likelihood. Let's be real about draft and the possibility of a player contributing. 


    Just grab some UDFAs, grab a vet off the wire. Done. 


    I'm pretty happy with Collins, Mayo, and Hightower. Oh, and Nink can play linebacker too. 

     
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    we are getting a TE finally

     
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    we are getting a TE finally





    Maybe a Ted Bolser from IU.

     
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    wow another OL this is Ridiculous 

     
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    New OL coach Dave DeGuglielmo will have his hands full in camp.


    They've certainly identified a need to get bigger and nastier up front.

     
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