***2014 PATRIOTS DRAFT THREAD***

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    1. TE
    2. Big Physical WR with YAC ability
    3. DT
    4. MLB
    5. Interior OL

     

     



    They should definitely have their pick from a solid group of TE/WR/DT/OL at the back end of Rd 1.  




    What's your view on Kelvin Benjamin or Eric Ebron?  Do you think either will be there and/or would be a good fit?

     



    Ebron is a true TE that can play inline... I'd expect him to be gone by the time NE selects... Benjamin has been a fulltime WR and I think that's where he stays in the NFL... he too might be gone before they select... really unique player (not many WR's with his combo of size/speed/athleticism) that's just scratching the surface.

     
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    http://www.draftcountdown.com/features/SeniorBowl/reports/Practices/North-Monday.php

     

    http://www.draftcountdown.com/features/SeniorBowl/reports/Practices/South-Monday.php

     
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    MB is it that time where the Patriots try and find the replacements for two of the most important spots on the team? I mean DT and QB, I've been reading that Hageman is a probable fit in the first round for New England, and that would solve one spot, but not the QB. Is Mallett the guy or is he trade bait? Here's a name or two to watch in the upcoming draft at the QB position: Fales SJS, Jordan Lynch NIU, and from out of nowheres comes Dustin Vaughn WTS. Which of these three would you like to groom as TB's eventual replacement in the event they trade Ryan Mallett? I know you have the skinny on every player so give me your best eval of these three guys, thnx.



    I think DT is a definite need... there's some decent depth with the return of VW/Kelly, but there's also plenty of room to upgrade the talent up front and Hageman in Rd 1 makes a ton of sense.  I also really like PSU's Daquan Jones, South Carolina's Kelcy Quarles and LSU's Ego Ferguson at some point in Rd 2.  FSU's Timmy Jernigan is a bit undersized by general BB standards (6-2 298), but is very good vs. the run and could also be under consideration at some point within the Top 40 or so.

    As for the QB's mentioned, David Fales will cost you the most (should be a Day 2 pick), but is also the most talented of the (3).  Arm is just adequate, but he's accurate, competitive and has some mobility.  I personally don't think Jordan Lynch will be a QB in the NFL for long.

    EIU's Jimmy Garapolo is another hot name and riser and could be an option at some point on Day 2, as could Alabama's AJ McCarron.

    For other kids that I like on Day 3, I'm looking at UNC's Bryn Renner, Ball State's Keith Wenning and Ohio State's Kenny Guiton.  I also look forward to checking out some Vaughan tape.

    Here are some of the particulars on Vaughn: 6'5" 232lbs, threw for 5,401 yards as a Senior with 53 TD's, a passing pct, of 66.2 ! In his three seasons as a starter he has thrown for 13,525 yards and 123 TD's. Pretty heady stuff, someone is going to take a chance on him and if he's available in the 6th round I think he might just be a winner!


     
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    SB, good post. I think Hageman will move up above pick 29 for sure.  He is a physical freak and I know teams will overdraft.  Tuitt is a possiblity in Rd1. Jones, Quarles, Ferguson in RD 2 are excellent picks. Nix will probably go the latest to GB RD1, but he needs to be healthy and at a decent weight.

    Good QB analysis, are you thinking NE definitely moves Mallett?

     
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    Orton may be a sleeper.

     

    Patriots signed WR Greg Orton, C Braxton Cave, OT Jordan Devey, WR Reggie Dunn, OG R.J. Mattes, RB Sam McGuffie and LB Taylor Reed to reserve/future contracts.

    A fourth-year undrafted free agent, Orton made waves in the Broncos' offseason program last season, but went down on August 3 with a high-ankle sprain. He was waived/injured soon after. Already 27, 2014 figures to be Orton's last chance to crack a 53-man roster.  

    http://www.rotoworld.com/teams/nfl/ne/new-england-patriots  

     

    01/02/14  - WR Greg Orton signed with the Patriots practice squad Dec. 31. The 6-foot-3, 207-pounder originally entered the NFL as an undrafted rookie out of Purdue with the Bengals in 2009. He spent parts of both 2011 and 2012 on the Broncos practice squad. He went to camp in Denver this past summer and has also spent time in the Arena League and UFL.  

     

    http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=56958&draftyear=2009&genpos=WR

     
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    Updated Big 53 Board:

     

    Rd 1 (8)

    OT/OG- Zack Martin- ND

    DT- Ra'shede Hageman- Minnesota

    DE/OLB- Marcus Smith *Added 1/5/14*

    S- Calvin Pryor- Lousiville *Added 1/17/14*

    WR- Allen Robinson- PSU *Added 1/1/14*

    TE- Troy Niklas- ND *Added 1/12/14*

    TE- Jace Amaro- TTU *Added 1/17/14*

    DE/OLB- Trent Murphy- Stanford

     

     

    Rd 1-2 (5)

    WR/TE- Kelvin Benjamin- FSU *Added 12/11/13*

    DT- Timmy Jernigan- FSU

    CB/S- Kyle Fuller- VT

    OLB- Kyle Van Noy- BYU

    WR- Brandin Cooks- *Added 1/1/14*

     

    Rd 2 (12)

    DT- DaQuan Jones- PSU

    DT- Kelcy Quarles- South Carolina

    DT- Ego Ferguson- LSU

    ILB- Shayne Skov- Stanford

    CB/S- Lamarcus Joyner- FSU *Added 12/20/13*

    WR- Jarvis Landry- *Added 12/7/13*

    CB- Bradley Roby- OSU

    LB- Telvin Smith- *Added 12/20/13*

    DE/OLB- Trevor Reilly- *Added 12/29/13*

    LB- Adrian Hubbard- Alabama *Added 12/11/13*

    OG- Xavier Su’a-Filo- UCLA * Added 12/7/13*

    S- Deone Bucannon- WSU

     

    Rd 2-3 (3)

    QB- AJ McCarron- Alabama

    ILB- Yawin Smallwood- Uconn

    CB- EJ Gaines- Missouri

     

    Rd 3 (10)

    S- Antone Exum- VT

    TE- CJ Fiedorowicz- Iowa

    TE- Arthur Lynch- Georgia

    WR- Jared Abbrederis- Wisconsin

    ILB- Chris Borland- Wisconsin

    C/OG- Weston Richburg- Colorado State

    OG- Anthony Steen- Alabama

    DT- Ed Stinson- Alabama

    TE- Marcel Jensen- Fresno State

    C/OG- Bryan Stork- FSU *Added 12/11/13*

     

    Rd 4-7 (15)

    DT- Justin Ellis- LTU- *Added 1/18/14*

    DT- Brent Urban Virginia- *Added 12/30/13*

    ILB- Max Bullough- Michigan State

    S- Jason Hendricks- Pitt *Added 1/11/14*

    DT- Ryan Carrethers- Arkansas St *Added 12/22/13*

    QB- Bryn Renner- UNC

    WR- TJ Jones- ND- *Added 1/18/14*

    WR- Michael Campanaro- WF- *Added 1/12/14*

    RB- Tyler Gaffney- Stanford

    QB- Keith Wenning- Ball State *Added 12/29/13*

    TE- Rob Blanchflower- Umass *Added 1/1/14*

    ILB- Glenn Carson- PSU

    S- Shamiel Gary- Oklahoma State

    DT- Beau Allen- Wisconsin

     

    RB- Alfred Blue- LSU

     
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    NFP » News » Hot News and Rumors RSS NFL draft trade talk already starting at Senior Bowl

    With so many underclassmen available, teams are looking to nab second- and third-round picks

    Jason Cole

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    Although the NFL draft is still almost three months away and the NFL scouting combine isn’t for another month, several team executives said Monday and Tuesday that preliminary trade talk is al-ready being bandied about at the Senior Bowl in Mobile, Ala.

    In particular, there are several teams interested in moving back in the draft in hopes of obtaining extra picks in the second and third rounds. The reason is that because 102 underclassmen have entered the draft, this year’s draft is expected to be one of the deepest in many years.

    “You’re going to see a lot of players who would normally be second-round picks end up in the third round. Same goes for the mid- to late-first round picks ending up in the second round,” one team executive said.

    While this draft is expected to have a number of top-end stars available in the top 10, includ-ing defensive end Jadeveon Clowney of South Carolina and quarterbacks Blake Bortles, Teddy Bridgewater and Johnny Manziel, some teams may opt for depth in this draft.

    “If you’re in a rebuilding mode, I think it would be really tempting to move back to pick up a couple of extra picks,” said another executive, who pointed to Jacksonville as a team that would fit that profile. The Jaguars have the No. 3 pick and are in need of a quarterback, but also have needs at numerous other spots.

    St. Louis, which has the No. 2 overall pick from Washington via the Robert Griffin III trade in 2012, is also looking to move down. A Rams coach joked about the team taking Clowney at No. 2 and putting him on the field with fellow defensive ends Robert Quinn and Chris Long, but then admitted that might be difficult.

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    Updated Big 53 Board:

     

    Rd 1 (8)

    OT/OG- Zack Martin- ND

    DT- Ra'shede Hageman- Minnesota

    DE/OLB- Marcus Smith *Added 1/5/14*

    S- Calvin Pryor- Lousiville *Added 1/17/14*

    WR- Allen Robinson- PSU *Added 1/1/14*

    TE- Troy Niklas- ND *Added 1/12/14*

    TE- Jace Amaro- TTU *Added 1/17/14*

    DE/OLB- Trent Murphy- Stanford

     

     

    Rd 1-2 (5)

    WR/TE- Kelvin Benjamin- FSU *Added 12/11/13*

    DT- Timmy Jernigan- FSU

    CB/S- Kyle Fuller- VT

    OLB- Kyle Van Noy- BYU

    WR- Brandin Cooks- *Added 1/1/14*

     

    Rd 2 (12)

    DT- DaQuan Jones- PSU

    DT- Kelcy Quarles- South Carolina

    DT- Ego Ferguson- LSU

    ILB- Shayne Skov- Stanford

    CB/S- Lamarcus Joyner- FSU *Added 12/20/13*

    WR- Jarvis Landry- *Added 12/7/13*

    CB- Bradley Roby- OSU

    LB- Telvin Smith- *Added 12/20/13*

    DE/OLB- Trevor Reilly- *Added 12/29/13*

    LB- Adrian Hubbard- Alabama *Added 12/11/13*

    OG- Xavier Su’a-Filo- UCLA * Added 12/7/13*

    S- Deone Bucannon- WSU

     

    Rd 2-3 (3)

    QB- AJ McCarron- Alabama

    ILB- Yawin Smallwood- Uconn

    CB- EJ Gaines- Missouri

     

    Rd 3 (10)

    S- Antone Exum- VT

    TE- CJ Fiedorowicz- Iowa

    TE- Arthur Lynch- Georgia

    WR- Jared Abbrederis- Wisconsin

    ILB- Chris Borland- Wisconsin

    C/OG- Weston Richburg- Colorado State

    OG- Anthony Steen- Alabama

    DT- Ed Stinson- Alabama

    TE- Marcel Jensen- Fresno State

    C/OG- Bryan Stork- FSU *Added 12/11/13*

     

    Rd 4-7 (15)

    DT- Justin Ellis- LTU- *Added 1/18/14*

    DT- Brent Urban Virginia- *Added 12/30/13*

    ILB- Max Bullough- Michigan State

    S- Jason Hendricks- Pitt *Added 1/11/14*

    DT- Ryan Carrethers- Arkansas St *Added 12/22/13*

    QB- Bryn Renner- UNC

    WR- TJ Jones- ND- *Added 1/18/14*

    WR- Michael Campanaro- WF- *Added 1/12/14*

    RB- Tyler Gaffney- Stanford

    QB- Keith Wenning- Ball State *Added 12/29/13*

    TE- Rob Blanchflower- Umass *Added 1/1/14*

    ILB- Glenn Carson- PSU

    S- Shamiel Gary- Oklahoma State

    DT- Beau Allen- Wisconsin

     

    RB- Alfred Blue- LSU




    Really Good Big Board.   Who do you consider a sleeper, someone that is low on your board but has a chance to move up a round or two?

     
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    Updated Big 53 Board:

     

    Rd 1 (8)

    OT/OG- Zack Martin- ND

    DT- Ra'shede Hageman- Minnesota

    DE/OLB- Marcus Smith *Added 1/5/14*

    S- Calvin Pryor- Lousiville *Added 1/17/14*

    WR- Allen Robinson- PSU *Added 1/1/14*

    TE- Troy Niklas- ND *Added 1/12/14*

    TE- Jace Amaro- TTU *Added 1/17/14*

    DE/OLB- Trent Murphy- Stanford

     

     

    Rd 1-2 (5)

    WR/TE- Kelvin Benjamin- FSU *Added 12/11/13*

    DT- Timmy Jernigan- FSU

    CB/S- Kyle Fuller- VT

    OLB- Kyle Van Noy- BYU

    WR- Brandin Cooks- *Added 1/1/14*

     

    Rd 2 (12)

    DT- DaQuan Jones- PSU

    DT- Kelcy Quarles- South Carolina

    DT- Ego Ferguson- LSU

    ILB- Shayne Skov- Stanford

    CB/S- Lamarcus Joyner- FSU *Added 12/20/13*

    WR- Jarvis Landry- *Added 12/7/13*

    CB- Bradley Roby- OSU

    LB- Telvin Smith- *Added 12/20/13*

    DE/OLB- Trevor Reilly- *Added 12/29/13*

    LB- Adrian Hubbard- Alabama *Added 12/11/13*

    OG- Xavier Su’a-Filo- UCLA * Added 12/7/13*

    S- Deone Bucannon- WSU

     

    Rd 2-3 (3)

    QB- AJ McCarron- Alabama

    ILB- Yawin Smallwood- Uconn

    CB- EJ Gaines- Missouri

     

    Rd 3 (10)

    S- Antone Exum- VT

    TE- CJ Fiedorowicz- Iowa

    TE- Arthur Lynch- Georgia

    WR- Jared Abbrederis- Wisconsin

    ILB- Chris Borland- Wisconsin

    C/OG- Weston Richburg- Colorado State

    OG- Anthony Steen- Alabama

    DT- Ed Stinson- Alabama

    TE- Marcel Jensen- Fresno State

    C/OG- Bryan Stork- FSU *Added 12/11/13*

     

    Rd 4-7 (15)

    DT- Justin Ellis- LTU- *Added 1/18/14*

    DT- Brent Urban Virginia- *Added 12/30/13*

    ILB- Max Bullough- Michigan State

    S- Jason Hendricks- Pitt *Added 1/11/14*

    DT- Ryan Carrethers- Arkansas St *Added 12/22/13*

    QB- Bryn Renner- UNC

    WR- TJ Jones- ND- *Added 1/18/14*

    WR- Michael Campanaro- WF- *Added 1/12/14*

    RB- Tyler Gaffney- Stanford

    QB- Keith Wenning- Ball State *Added 12/29/13*

    TE- Rob Blanchflower- Umass *Added 1/1/14*

    ILB- Glenn Carson- PSU

    S- Shamiel Gary- Oklahoma State

    DT- Beau Allen- Wisconsin

     

    RB- Alfred Blue- LSU




    Really Good Big Board.   Who do you consider a sleeper, someone that is low on your board but has a chance to move up a round or two?



    Thanks, as far as sleepers go, Lousiville DE/OLB Marcus Smith is one of the best players that I've seen on tape this season... he's currently listed as a Rd 2/3 kid, but I see an eventual Rd 1 talent.

    As for kids that I think could move up a bit, LTU DT Jason Ellis, Pitt S Jason Hendricks and UNC QB Bryn Renner are a few of kids that are rated towards the end of Day 3, but could end up as mid round picks, IMO.  I'm also high on Oklahoma State S Shamiel Gary, see him listed as a 7th Rd/URFA type, but I think he's a mid round kid too, based on the tape that I've seen.  He wasn't getting much PT late in the year, though I haven't been able to figure out if it was injury or performance related.

     
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    SB, good post. I think Hageman will move up above pick 29 for sure.  He is a physical freak and I know teams will overdraft.  Tuitt is a possiblity in Rd1. Jones, Quarles, Ferguson in RD 2 are excellent picks. Nix will probably go the latest to GB RD1, but he needs to be healthy and at a decent weight.

    Good QB analysis, are you thinking NE definitely moves Mallett?

    Thnx for the added info on Nix,Jones and Quarles. I think the better athelete is Hageman. As for the b/u QB situation I do believe that the Patriots have to make a decision on Mallett's future whether it's here in New England or in Houston or Jax, or even Cleveland. I believe if any of those three teams would offer their 2nd round draft choice and maybe a 5th round pick this year, that BB would be hard pressed not to take the deal, I say they have to include both picks because of Mallett's training and what they used to get him was a high 3rd round pick. As for the QB's I mentioneed I did so based upon what little I've seen on film for second tier QB's, I also wouldn't be adverse to the Patriots taking McCarron in the 3rd round if he's still on the board although he seems to think he will be a top 20 draft choice, I don't see him being drafted before late 2nd or third rounds. I only saw a little of Vaughn but those stats just jump off the page for me...


     
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    Rd 1 (8)

    OT/OG- Zack Martin- ND

    DT- Ra'shede Hageman- Minnesota

    DE/OLB- Marcus Smith *Added 1/5/14*

    S- Calvin Pryor- Lousiville *Added 1/17/14*

    WR- Allen Robinson- PSU *Added 1/1/14*

    TE- Troy Niklas- ND *Added 1/12/14*

    TE- Jace Amaro- TTU *Added 1/17/14*

    DE/OLB- Trent Murphy- Stanford

     

     

    Rd 1-2 (5)

    WR/TE- Kelvin Benjamin- FSU *Added 12/11/13*

    DT- Timmy Jernigan- FSU

    CB/S- Kyle Fuller- VT

    OLB- Kyle Van Noy- BYU

    WR- Brandin Cooks- *Added 1/1/14*

     

    Rd 2 (12)

    DT- DaQuan Jones- PSU

    DT- Kelcy Quarles- South Carolina

    DT- Ego Ferguson- LSU

    ILB- Shayne Skov- Stanford

    CB/S- Lamarcus Joyner- FSU *Added 12/20/13*

    WR- Jarvis Landry- *Added 12/7/13*

    CB- Bradley Roby- OSU

    LB- Telvin Smith- *Added 12/20/13*

    DE/OLB- Trevor Reilly- *Added 12/29/13*

    LB- Adrian Hubbard- Alabama *Added 12/11/13*

    OG- Xavier Su’a-Filo- UCLA * Added 12/7/13*

    S- Deone Bucannon- WSU

     

    Rd 2-3 (3)

    QB- AJ McCarron- Alabama

    ILB- Yawin Smallwood- Uconn

    CB- EJ Gaines- Missouri

     

    Rd 3 (10)

    S- Antone Exum- VT

    TE- CJ Fiedorowicz- Iowa

    TE- Arthur Lynch- Georgia

    WR- Jared Abbrederis- Wisconsin

    ILB- Chris Borland- Wisconsin

    C/OG- Weston Richburg- Colorado State

    OG- Anthony Steen- Alabama

    DT- Ed Stinson- Alabama

    TE- Marcel Jensen- Fresno State

    C/OG- Bryan Stork- FSU *Added 12/11/13*

     

    Rd 4-7 (15)

    DT- Justin Ellis- LTU- *Added 1/18/14*

    DT- Brent Urban Virginia- *Added 12/30/13*

    ILB- Max Bullough- Michigan State

    S- Jason Hendricks- Pitt *Added 1/11/14*

    DT- Ryan Carrethers- Arkansas St *Added 12/22/13*

    QB- Bryn Renner- UNC

    WR- TJ Jones- ND- *Added 1/18/14*

    WR- Michael Campanaro- WF- *Added 1/12/14*

    RB- Tyler Gaffney- Stanford

    QB- Keith Wenning- Ball State *Added 12/29/13*

    TE- Rob Blanchflower- Umass *Added 1/1/14*

    ILB- Glenn Carson- PSU

    S- Shamiel Gary- Oklahoma State

    DT- Beau Allen- Wisconsin

     

    RB- Alfred Blue- LSU




    Really Good Big Board.   Who do you consider a sleeper, someone that is low on your board but has a chance to move up a round or two?



    Thanks, as far as sleepers go, Lousiville DE/OLB Marcus Smith is one of the best players that I've seen on tape this season... he's currently listed as a Rd 2/3 kid, but I see an eventual Rd 1 talent.

    As for kids that I think could move up a bit, LTU DT Jason Ellis, Pitt S Jason Hendricks and UNC QB Bryn Renner are a few of kids that are rated towards the end of Day 3, but could end up as mid round picks, IMO.  I'm also high on Oklahoma State S Shamiel Gary, see him listed as a 7th Rd/URFA type, but I think he's a mid round kid too, based on the tape that I've seen.  He wasn't getting much PT late in the year, though I haven't been able to figure out if it was injury or performance related.

    I would be thrilled if the Patriots came away with Hageman or Tuit in the 1rst round and could make a trade to get an early 2nd round pick so they could take Pryor, Skov or Niklas,Amaro, or Sefarin type TE. If not they can always wait until the third round and snag Coleman and make him into a larger version of Hernandez. However if they are going to improve after TE they really need defensive help whether through the draft or free agency.


     
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    http://www.statesman.com/feed/sports/football/2014-nfl-draft-what-level-of-performance-can-be/fW76D/

    2014 NFL Draft: What Level Of Performance Can Be Expected From Rookie Defensive Tackles?

    An analysis geared toward the Cowboys, but goes through what to expect when drafting a DT.

    Bottomline: Less than 50% will start their first year, but if drafted in the 1st or second rd they will make an impact.

     
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    http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2014/1/9/5288028/nfl-draft-2014-finding-playmaking-defensive-tackles-for-the-dallas-cowboys?utm_source=sbnation&utm_medium=mustreads&utm_campaign=blogs

    Another interesting article on DT Production.  2013 Class NE's Chris Jones led all DT rookies with 6 sacks; however last in run defense.  They also look at the 2014 class.

     
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    I now want the Pats to draft for the following positions...

    DT - Kelly is expected to come back. VW might not. Even if he does, he probably comes back later in the season, and may not be the same anymore. Cris Jones is not a starter. I do not think they should expect Armstead either. They need to get big, fast and nasty in the middle.

    CB - Arrington should not be left to defend outside. With so many teams having their own uptempo Os, that's almost impossible to do. Anybody who is good enough to defend only the slot is not good enough. This is a key role especially if Talib keeps disappearing due to being hurt

    OG/C - As with the DL, I want really big and really tough interior OL. Mankins has done well in the past years, but the interior getting dominated seems a pretty consistent theme on playoff losses (I still can't believe how easy it was Knighton got past Mankins for that sack on the 4th and 2).

    TE - TB needs big targets out there, especially in the playoffs. IDK if TB's accuracy is declining. All I know is that he threw balls that were not spot on. Gronk... a bonus if he comes back healthy. They need to acquire big targets for TB.

     

     

     

     

     
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    The Next Jamie Collins

       It’s still not totally clear what position Florida St. LB Christian Jones (6-3⅜, 234) is best-suited to play in the pros but he’s the type of dynamic athlete that you bring into the fold and figure out what to do with later. Jones is officially listed as an inside linebacker this week but he also saw action at both outside linebacker and defensive end during his college career. Blockers simply couldn’t handle Jones’ incredible speed and explosiveness as a pass rusher today and he also flashed a lighting quick spin move that proved to be extremely effective. Just ask Georgia TE Arthur Lynch. Each team may evaluate Jones differently based on their scheme but regardless of whether it’s an even or odd front there should be a place for a rangy playmaker with pro bloodlines such as Jones. In many ways Jones is a clone of Jamie Collins, who was a second round pick of the Patriots a year ago. Don't be surprised if other teams around the league now start searching for their very own version of Collins after the way he performed in the recent playoffs for New England.

    http://www.draftcountdown.com/features/SeniorBowl/reports/Practices/South-Tuesday.php

     
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    MB

    Mentioned David Fales, QB strongly a few weeks back if you remember. You also liked his teammate Chandler Jones WR who played well in the Shrine.

     
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    I now want the Pats to draft for the following positions...

    DT - Kelly is expected to come back. VW might not. Even if he does, he probably comes back later in the season, and may not be the same anymore. Cris Jones is not a starter. I do not think they should expect Armstead either. They need to get big, fast and nasty in the middle.

    CB - Arrington should not be left to defend outside. With so many teams having their own uptempo Os, that's almost impossible to do. Anybody who is good enough to defend only the slot is not good enough. This is a key role especially if Talib keeps disappearing due to being hurt

    OG/C - As with the DL, I want really big and really tough interior OL. Mankins has done well in the past years, but the interior getting dominated seems a pretty consistent theme on playoff losses (I still can't believe how easy it was Knighton got past Mankins for that sack on the 4th and 2).

    TE - TB needs big targets out there, especially in the playoffs. IDK if TB's accuracy is declining. All I know is that he threw balls that were not spot on. Gronk... a bonus if he comes back healthy. They need to acquire big targets for TB.

     

     

     

     



    That's the fun part, a case could be made for any of those positions, as well as S and edge rusher.  Generally speaking, I'd look to the trenches first, so DT/OL, as well as TE.  To me, the unlikely grand slam lands them Irish Chocoloate, AKA, Louis Nix III... but if they come away with Zack Martin, Tuitt, Hageman, Niklas or Amaro, then fans should be very... very... VERY happy with that outcome.

    Heck, I'd be happy if they doubled up on DT's in Rd 1/2, similar to what Carolina did in 2013 (Lotulelei/S/hort)... and not concidently, they were near the top of the league on Total, passing and rush defense this season.  It all starts up front... as we know.

    I can only imagine how different the D would look if you mixed in some combo of the below with VW/Kelly:

    Rd 1:  Nix, Tuitt, Hageman or even Jernigan.

    Rd 2:  Jones, Quarles or Ferguson.

     
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    MB

    Mentioned David Fales, QB strongly a few weeks back if you remember. You also liked his teammate Chandler Jones WR who played well in the Shrine.



    I do remember, yes.

     
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    http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2014/1/9/5288028/nfl-draft-2014-finding-playmaking-defensive-tackles-for-the-dallas-cowboys?utm_source=sbnation&utm_medium=mustreads&utm_campaign=blogs

    Another interesting article on DT Production.  2013 Class NE's Chris Jones led all DT rookies with 6 sacks; however last in run defense.  They also look at the 2014 class.



    Great article, thanks for posting!

     
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    I think Alabama S Vinnie Sunseri (6-0 210) is a player that could interest BB on Day 3.  He was a starting S for the Tide before he went down with a knee injury.  He's a smart, active S, with good read/react that at the very least could become a core ST player.

     
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    Ouch... tough break for Oklahoma CB Aaron Colvin... gotta feel bad for the kid.  Some team will get some good value as he'll prob go on Day 3 now.

    http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/01/21/report-oklahoma-cb-aaron-colvin-tears-acl-at-senior-bowl/

     
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    In response to Faucetman's comment:

    1. TE
    2. Big Physical WR with RAC ability
    3. DT
    4. MLB
    5. Interior OL

     

     



    They should definitely have their pick from a solid group of TE/WR/DT/OL at the back end of Rd 1.  



    I agree but can't see them looking WR there unless someone unbelievable in every aspect fell in their lap.

     
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    I think Alabama S Vinnie Sunseri (6-0 210) is a player that could interest BB on Day 3.  He was a starting S for the Tide before he went down with a knee injury.  He's a smart, active S, with good read/react that at the very least could become a core ST player.



    Glad you brought him up. Was going to bring him up. A little surprising he declared coming off the ACL tear, but I think he would be a really good fit on day 3 like you said (4th/5th round). I was a huge fan of his prior to his injury.

     
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    In response to mbeaulieu07's comment:

    I think Alabama S Vinnie Sunseri (6-0 210) is a player that could interest BB on Day 3.  He was a starting S for the Tide before he went down with a knee injury.  He's a smart, active S, with good read/react that at the very least could become a core ST player.



    Glad you brought him up. Was going to bring him up. A little surprising he declared coming off the ACL tear, but I think he would be a really good fit on day 3 like you said (4th/5th round). I was a huge fan of his prior to his injury.



    Yeah, I too was a bit surprised at first, but with the talent they've brought in at S, it was probably a smart pay on his part because he was a likely backup next season.

     
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    There was a good article out there today somewhere about the probable reason on so many younger guys leaving college early to go to the NFL.

    That being, starting at a younger age working toward hopefully a bigger 2nd contract if staying healthy and proving themselves a good player.

    I hadn't really thought of that originally. I think we mostly all thought they might stay in school longer since the really big money was not sitting there waiting for them once the slotting system went in place.

    Probably very good for all the teams picking at the back end of the round.

    Although I think that probably raises the probability level of more misses too. 

     
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