***2014 PATRIOTS DRAFT THREAD***

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    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/02/16/dolphins-may-open-season-with-all-new-offensive-line/

    I think we can say without question that the Dolphins will be drafting many O-Linemen.  If they plan on replacing all 5, I bet they use 3 of thier top 5 picks on O-Linemen, and snag a couple in FA.  Any team looking to draft in that position, will look to jump in front of them each round.

     



    Zack Martin makes too much sense for them in Rd 1, assuming he's still on the board.

     
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    I'm starting to track other team needs and create a 1st/2nd round mock, if anyone needs here's the order and needs (from NFL.com) as other needs get updated I update the sheet.

    1. Houston Texans Record: 2-14  Team needs: QB, OT, safety   

    2. St. Louis Rams (from Washington Redskins) Record: 3-13  Team needs: OL, WR, safety 

    3. Jacksonville Jaguars Record: 4-12  Team needs: QB, DE, OT   

    4. Cleveland Browns Record: 4-12  Team needs: QB, RB, OG   

    5. Oakland Raiders Record: 4-12  Team needs: QB, WR, OT   

    6. Atlanta Falcons Record: 4-12  Team needs: DE, OL, TE   

    7. Tampa Bay Buccaneers Record: 4-12  Needs: DE, TE, OT   

    8. Minnesota Vikings Record: 5-10-1  Team needs: QB, DE, OG   

    9. Buffalo Bills Record: 6-10  Team needs: LB, TE, RT   

    10. Detroit Lions Record: 7-9  Team needs: CB, WR, safety   

    11. Tennessee Titans Record: 7-9  Team needs: Safety, DE, QB   

    12. New York Giants Record: 7-9  Needs: LB, CB, interior OL   

    13. St. Louis Rams Record: 7-9  Team needs: OL, WR, safety   

    14. Chicago Bears Record: 8-8  Team needs: DL, Safety, Interior OL   

    15. Pittsburgh Steelers Record: 8-8  Needs: OT, safety, CB   

    16t. Baltimore Ravens (pending coin flip) Record: 8-8  Team needs: OT, C, WR   

    16t. Dallas Cowboys (pending coin flip) Record: 8-8  Needs: DE, CB, safety   

    18. New York Jets Record: 8-8  Team needs: WR, OG, CB   

    19. Miami Dolphins Record: 8-8  Needs: OT, OG, RB   

    20. Arizona Cardinals Record: 10-6  Team needs: OT, CB, OLB  Record: 11-5   

    21. Green Bay Packers Record: 8-7-1  Team needs: TE, safety, LB   

    22. Philadelphia Eagles Record: 10-6  Team needs: OLB, Safety, CB   

    23. Kansas City Chiefs Record: 11-5  Team needs: WR, DL, ILB   

    24. Cincinnati Bengals Record: 11-5  Team needs: CB, OLB, Safety  

    25. San Diego Chargers Record: 9-7  Team needs: CB, OG, OLB   

    26. Cleveland Browns (from Indianapolis Colts) Record: 11-5  Team needs: QB, RB, OG   

    27. New Orleans Saints Record: 11-5  Needs: OT, OLB, CB   

    28. Carolina Panthers Record: 12-4  Team needs: WR, CB, OL     

    29. New England Patriots Record: 12-4  Team needs:  Interior OL, DL, TE, DB   

    30. San Francisco 49ers Record: 12-4  Team needs: WR, DL, CB   

    31. Denver Broncos Record: 13-3  Team needs: OT, CB, DL   

    32. Seattle Seahawks Record: 13-3  Team needs: WR, TE, OL 

     
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    I'm starting to track other team needs and create a 1st/2nd round mock, if anyone needs here's the order and needs (from NFL.com) as other needs get updated I update the sheet.

    1. Houston Texans Record: 2-14  Team needs: QB, OT, safety   

    2. St. Louis Rams (from Washington Redskins) Record: 3-13  Team needs: OL, WR, safety 

    3. Jacksonville Jaguars Record: 4-12  Team needs: QB, DE, OT   

    4. Cleveland Browns Record: 4-12  Team needs: QB, RB, OG   

    5. Oakland Raiders Record: 4-12  Team needs: QB, WR, OT   

    6. Atlanta Falcons Record: 4-12  Team needs: DE, OL, TE   

    7. Tampa Bay Buccaneers Record: 4-12  Needs: DE, TE, OT   

    8. Minnesota Vikings Record: 5-10-1  Team needs: QB, DE, OG   

    9. Buffalo Bills Record: 6-10  Team needs: LB, TE, RT   

    10. Detroit Lions Record: 7-9  Team needs: CB, WR, safety   

    11. Tennessee Titans Record: 7-9  Team needs: Safety, DE, QB   

    12. New York Giants Record: 7-9  Needs: LB, CB, interior OL   

    13. St. Louis Rams Record: 7-9  Team needs: OL, WR, safety   

    14. Chicago Bears Record: 8-8  Team needs: DL, Safety, Interior OL   

    15. Pittsburgh Steelers Record: 8-8  Needs: OT, safety, CB   

    16t. Baltimore Ravens (pending coin flip) Record: 8-8  Team needs: OT, C, WR   

    16t. Dallas Cowboys (pending coin flip) Record: 8-8  Needs: DE, CB, safety   

    18. New York Jets Record: 8-8  Team needs: WR, OG, CB   

    19. Miami Dolphins Record: 8-8  Needs: OT, OG, RB   

    20. Arizona Cardinals Record: 10-6  Team needs: OT, CB, OLB  Record: 11-5   

    21. Green Bay Packers Record: 8-7-1  Team needs: TE, safety, LB   

    22. Philadelphia Eagles Record: 10-6  Team needs: OLB, Safety, CB   

    23. Kansas City Chiefs Record: 11-5  Team needs: WR, DL, ILB   

    24. Cincinnati Bengals Record: 11-5  Team needs: CB, OLB, Safety  

    25. San Diego Chargers Record: 9-7  Team needs: CB, OG, OLB   

    26. Cleveland Browns (from Indianapolis Colts) Record: 11-5  Team needs: QB, RB, OG   

    27. New Orleans Saints Record: 11-5  Needs: OT, OLB, CB   

    28. Carolina Panthers Record: 12-4  Team needs: WR, CB, OL     

    29. New England Patriots Record: 12-4  Team needs:  Interior OL, DL, TE, DB   

    30. San Francisco 49ers Record: 12-4  Team needs: WR, DL, CB   

    31. Denver Broncos Record: 13-3  Team needs: OT, CB, DL   

    32. Seattle Seahawks Record: 13-3  Team needs: WR, TE, OL 



    Thanks, man!

     
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    No problem, it is not pasting right though, it's jumbling everything together

     

     
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    MB I was sitting here thinking, if any other teams department of scouting was just reading the BDC.com 2014 draft thread they wouldn't have to drive anywheres to get their knowledge on players. They could all just grab a cup of coffee on the way in from their homes each morning and open their computers and read the daily thread to update their data bases! Some of the reports on potential targets have elements that even some scouting combines don't have. Including youtube vids of the guys play during games. Stats, potential positional switches, strengths and weaknesses, damn! I hope the other teams aren't paying attention we all know by our guesses that BB doesn't read any....

     
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    MB I was sitting here thinking, if any other teams department of scouting was just reading the BDC.com 2014 draft thread they wouldn't have to drive anywheres to get their knowledge on players. They could all just grab a cup of coffee on the way in from their homes each morning and open their computers and read the daily thread to update their data bases! Some of the reports on potential targets have elements that even some scouting combines don't have. Including youtube vids of the guys play during games. Stats, potential positional switches, strengths and weaknesses, damn! I hope the other teams aren't paying attention we all know by our guesses that BB doesn't any....



    Haha, you know, I've wondered in the past if BB/NC's eyes have ever grazed even a single post on this thread over the years... not that we're posting anything that they prob don't already know, but more for entertainment purposes... or to see how dialed in the fan base really is.

     
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    Small school Starr ready to shine at NFL scouting combine

    February 13, 2014 9:29 am ET 

    ...

    For the record, the population in Starr's hometown is 459. But the Missouri Valley Conference Player of the Year has put Little Rock, Iowa, on the NFL scouting map. An impressive showing last month at the East-West Shrine Game helped get the 6-foot-4¼, 250-pound linebacker a spot at next week's NFL combine in Indianapolis.

    "I like him a lot," said one NFL scout. "He's tall, long and extremely athletic and plays with a high motor. I'd heard some chatter about him this fall and went to see him, and he's way more athletic than I thought he'd be. You still wonder if he has enough power and strength at the point of attack right now to be an every-down guy, but he really has a knack for rushing the passer and he has some real third-down value."

    2014 Draft Prospect Rankings: Tyler Starr No. 23 among OLBs

    Word is, Starr should turn heads at the combine, not just for the long blonde hair that he hasn't cut since his freshman year at USD. Starr says he hass clocked a three-cone drill time of 6.29 in his training sessions in Tennessee. For comparison's sake, the fastest time in Indy last year was 6.52 by cornerback Will Davis from Utah. Oregon WR Jeff Maehl clocked a 6.42 in 2011, which the NFL considers its recent best. The fastest time by a linebacker last year was 6.71 by Mizzou's Zavier Gooden.

    "I think I can blow that drill out of the water," Starr told CBSSports.com on Tuesday night. Even if he's anywhere near that mark, his stock should continue to rise.

    ....

     



    This one's got my attention. Upon reading this, I immediately had to check my DVR if I still have the Shrine game. Looks like I will be watching football this weekend.



    Def got my attention as well... let us know what you see when watching the tape.



    Did not see much of him. I believe he was wearing #41. He played some snaps. I did not see the speed. I think this is a guy who could flash in the combine, but has not really figured out how to apply that speed in a real game. He was a bit indecisive. I think his recognition is a tad slow so by the time he decides where to go, it's too late.

    I am not saying he'd be a bad pick. I just did not see much on that video to get excited over him.

     
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    Small school Starr ready to shine at NFL scouting combine

    February 13, 2014 9:29 am ET 

    ...

    For the record, the population in Starr's hometown is 459. But the Missouri Valley Conference Player of the Year has put Little Rock, Iowa, on the NFL scouting map. An impressive showing last month at the East-West Shrine Game helped get the 6-foot-4¼, 250-pound linebacker a spot at next week's NFL combine in Indianapolis.

    "I like him a lot," said one NFL scout. "He's tall, long and extremely athletic and plays with a high motor. I'd heard some chatter about him this fall and went to see him, and he's way more athletic than I thought he'd be. You still wonder if he has enough power and strength at the point of attack right now to be an every-down guy, but he really has a knack for rushing the passer and he has some real third-down value."

    2014 Draft Prospect Rankings: Tyler Starr No. 23 among OLBs

    Word is, Starr should turn heads at the combine, not just for the long blonde hair that he hasn't cut since his freshman year at USD. Starr says he hass clocked a three-cone drill time of 6.29 in his training sessions in Tennessee. For comparison's sake, the fastest time in Indy last year was 6.52 by cornerback Will Davis from Utah. Oregon WR Jeff Maehl clocked a 6.42 in 2011, which the NFL considers its recent best. The fastest time by a linebacker last year was 6.71 by Mizzou's Zavier Gooden.

    "I think I can blow that drill out of the water," Starr told CBSSports.com on Tuesday night. Even if he's anywhere near that mark, his stock should continue to rise.

    ....

     



    This one's got my attention. Upon reading this, I immediately had to check my DVR if I still have the Shrine game. Looks like I will be watching football this weekend.



    Def got my attention as well... let us know what you see when watching the tape.



    Did not see much of him. I believe he was wearing #41. He played some snaps. I did not see the speed. I think this is a guy who could flash in the combine, but has not really figured out how to apply that speed in a real game. He was a bit indecisive. I think his recognition is a tad slow so by the time he decides where to go, it's too late.

    I am not saying he'd be a bad pick. I just did not see much on that video to get excited over him.



    Thanks for the feedback... so more athlete than football player at this point?

     
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    Interesting read.....

     

    UNDER-THE-RADAR PROSPECTS TO WATCH FOR THE 2014 DRAFT 

    by Colin Lindsay
    GBN Editor and Publisher

    For the most part, the NFL draft is the preserve of the big-time college football programs. Indeed, every year, something in the neighborhood of 85% of all players drafted are from a D1A school with the large majority of those coming from BCS conferences. Hope springs eternal though, and NFL teams - and their most loyal followers - are always looking for that diamond in the rough who just might be the difference between an also-ran and a championship team and over the course of the next couple of months we'll profile some of the more intrigued so-called sleepers for the upcoming draft.

    February 14, 2014

    Profiles of 5 unheralded prospects who have been invitedto this year's scouting combine in Indianapolis

    DT Tenny Palepoi; Utah, 6-1, 300, 5.15 …  Underrated interior defensive lineman was a junior college All-American in 2011 and then was part of a rotation backing up 2013 first rounder Star Lotulelei last fall, but had a productive year this past season when he finally got a chance to start regularly. Built a little bit like a fire hydrant with very good strength, he did a nice job clogging up the middle as the Utes’ nose tackle this past year as he finished with 53 tackles, including 4.5 sacks and 5 other tackles for loss. 


    DT Mike Pennel; Colorado State - Pueblo; 6-3, 365, 5.25 … Could be one of the biggest stories of the combine - both literally and figuratively - although he does not have much of a track record on the field and also appears to be bringing a lot of baggage. Indeed, brings new meaning to the term ‘million-dollar talent, 5-cent brain!‘ Certainly will be hard to miss at the combine as he is a genuinely massive guy at over 365 pounds who was a junior college All-American in 2011 when he had 5 sacks at Scottsdale CC in Arizona. Originally committed to Arkansas for his junior year in 2012, but ultimately ended up at Arizona State where he played in only 5 games that year after being suspended twice for not meeting team standards. Pennel then moved on to CSU-Pueblo last fall, but again spent much of the season in the coach’s proverbial doghouse. In fact, was suspended three times for a total of 6 games this past season for a variety of infractions. 
      ...


    I've mentioned Palepoi a couple of times... seems like a high motor kid with a very good burst and lateral agility... I'll have to look into the rest.



    Been scouring the internet for sleepers. One DT that I am trying to learn more about is QuayShawne Buckley - a senior from University of Idaho. He's 6-4, 305.

    The kid will probably go undrafted. He does not even appear in CBSSports' prospect list (That is a very extensive list). 

    Yet, his 6.5 sacks this season ranks 5th among DTs/NTs, behind Donald, Bromley, Quarles and Whitlock (a 250lb kid who's listed on ESPN as a NT). I can't seem to find a list for TFLs, but I know he has 15 TFLs - probably good enough for top 5 again among DTs.

    The only video I found on him was a highlight video on youtube. While it's biased to showing his good traits, IMO it's pretty clear from this video that this kid is a very athletic and high motor 6-4, 305. From this video, it is easy to understand how he generated those TFLs and sacks. He could be a late bloomer who's just blooming at the right time for a team who picks him up.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KlHaqjF6yk

     
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    OK first on the CB from Mizzou, it's not the feet you watch on a CB it's the hips and how quickly he can turn and run. As for both Ellington and Gaines it will be all about the the 3 cone drill if they run a 6.80 or lower they will be considered, if not cie est la vie! It was the only reason why BB was interested in both TJ Moe and Emmanuel Sanders they both smoked the 3 cone..



    To me what I notice about the good CB's is they always position themselves to see the QB. You can turn quickly, but once your head is turned to Reciever, your useless. I see this happening in the NFL, and College these days.



    I think there is a good debate here...

    Quick hip turn vs. Foot speed (burst and top speed).

    I am not fully decided yet but am leaning towards the latter. Over the last two years, I have been trying to figure out the key to CBs and am arriving at a similar conclusion to yours. The good CBs locate the ball early, and are willing to give up to two to three yards of separation, but has the the quickness to getting to the right spot when the ball drops. Because they are locating the ball, it minimizes the chances of getting called for PI. 

    Another way of framing this: The quick hip turner but not very fast will try to keep close to the WR but will not recover once a bit of separation is established by the WR. They cannot make a mistake and recover. I think an example of this is Arrington. The CB with very good foot speed can afford to make small mistakes and still recover. 

    I am still trying to figure this out, but that is where I am now.

     

     
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    UNDER-THE-RADAR PROSPECTS TO WATCH FOR THE 2014 DRAFT 

    by Colin Lindsay
    GBN Editor and Publisher

    For the most part, the NFL draft is the preserve of the big-time college football programs. Indeed, every year, something in the neighborhood of 85% of all players drafted are from a D1A school with the large majority of those coming from BCS conferences. Hope springs eternal though, and NFL teams - and their most loyal followers - are always looking for that diamond in the rough who just might be the difference between an also-ran and a championship team and over the course of the next couple of months we'll profile some of the more intrigued so-called sleepers for the upcoming draft.

    February 14, 2014

    Profiles of 5 unheralded prospects who have been invitedto this year's scouting combine in Indianapolis

    DT Tenny Palepoi; Utah, 6-1, 300, 5.15 …  Underrated interior defensive lineman was a junior college All-American in 2011 and then was part of a rotation backing up 2013 first rounder Star Lotulelei last fall, but had a productive year this past season when he finally got a chance to start regularly. Built a little bit like a fire hydrant with very good strength, he did a nice job clogging up the middle as the Utes’ nose tackle this past year as he finished with 53 tackles, including 4.5 sacks and 5 other tackles for loss. 


    DT Mike Pennel; Colorado State - Pueblo; 6-3, 365, 5.25 … Could be one of the biggest stories of the combine - both literally and figuratively - although he does not have much of a track record on the field and also appears to be bringing a lot of baggage. Indeed, brings new meaning to the term ‘million-dollar talent, 5-cent brain!‘ Certainly will be hard to miss at the combine as he is a genuinely massive guy at over 365 pounds who was a junior college All-American in 2011 when he had 5 sacks at Scottsdale CC in Arizona. Originally committed to Arkansas for his junior year in 2012, but ultimately ended up at Arizona State where he played in only 5 games that year after being suspended twice for not meeting team standards. Pennel then moved on to CSU-Pueblo last fall, but again spent much of the season in the coach’s proverbial doghouse. In fact, was suspended three times for a total of 6 games this past season for a variety of infractions. 
      ...


    I've mentioned Palepoi a couple of times... seems like a high motor kid with a very good burst and lateral agility... I'll have to look into the rest.



    Been scouring the internet for sleepers. One DT that I am trying to learn more about is QuayShawne Buckley - a senior from University of Idaho. He's 6-4, 305.

    The kid will probably go undrafted. He does not even appear in CBSSports' prospect list (That is a very extensive list). 

    Yet, his 6.5 sacks this season ranks 5th among DTs/NTs, behind Donald, Bromley, Quarles and Whitlock (a 250lb kid who's listed on ESPN as a NT). I can't seem to find a list for TFLs, but I know he has 15 TFLs - probably good enough for top 5 again among DTs.

    The only video I found on him was a highlight video on youtube. While it's biased to showing his good traits, IMO it's pretty clear from this video that this kid is a very athletic and high motor 6-4, 305. From this video, it is easy to understand how he generated those TFLs and sacks. He could be a late bloomer who's just blooming at the right time for a team who picks him up.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KlHaqjF6yk



    Where the heck do people come up with these names? ha... good find though, solid/squatty build... flashes a solid motor, good burst and does a good job of protecting his legs.  You're right on the 15 TFL this season... had 6 as a JR and 5 as a SOPH.

     
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    MB I was sitting here thinking, if any other teams department of scouting was just reading the BDC.com 2014 draft thread they wouldn't have to drive anywheres to get their knowledge on players. They could all just grab a cup of coffee on the way in from their homes each morning and open their computers and read the daily thread to update their data bases! Some of the reports on potential targets have elements that even some scouting combines don't have. Including youtube vids of the guys play during games. Stats, potential positional switches, strengths and weaknesses, damn! I hope the other teams aren't paying attention we all know by our guesses that BB doesn't any....

     



    Haha, you know, I've wondered in the past if BB/NC's eyes have ever grazed even a single post on this thread over the years... not that we're posting anything that they prob don't already know, but more for entertainment purposes... or to see how dialed in the fan base really is.

     

    My real strength subject is the Sox farm system and last year I compared Cecchini to a young Wade Boggs and today I read were some scout is now using the same comparison, I was peeved he didn't at least give me an honorable mention.LOL

    On your thought I'd bet you money they have someone reading this thread, it may not be BB or NC, but I would guess he has eyes on this page.Seriously there are guys here who have gone into detail on guys I've never heard of. Then i get happy when I mention a QB like Dustin Vaughn because somehow he slipped through the cracks and noone has looked at him here at BDC.com, it's a small victory for a baseball hack to spot one guy ahead of most of the guys here.

     

     
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    MB I was sitting here thinking, if any other teams department of scouting was just reading the BDC.com 2014 draft thread they wouldn't have to drive anywheres to get their knowledge on players. They could all just grab a cup of coffee on the way in from their homes each morning and open their computers and read the daily thread to update their data bases! Some of the reports on potential targets have elements that even some scouting combines don't have. Including youtube vids of the guys play during games. Stats, potential positional switches, strengths and weaknesses, damn! I hope the other teams aren't paying attention we all know by our guesses that BB doesn't any....

     

     



    Haha, you know, I've wondered in the past if BB/NC's eyes have ever grazed even a single post on this thread over the years... not that we're posting anything that they prob don't already know, but more for entertainment purposes... or to see how dialed in the fan base really is.

     

     

    My real strength subject is the Sox farm system and last year I compared Cecchini to a young Wade Boggs and today I read were some scout is now using the same comparison, I was peeved he didn't at least give me an honorable mention.LOL

    On your thought I'd bet you money they have someone reading this thread, it may not be BB or NC, but I would guess he has eyes on this page.Seriously there are guys here who have gone into detail on guys I've never heard of. Then i get happy when I mention a QB like Dustin Vaughn because somehow he slipped through the cracks and noone has looked at him here at BDC.com, it's a small victory for a baseball hack to spot one guy ahead of most of the guys here.

     



    Wow, being totally honest, I've made a mental comparison of Boggs and Cecchini... was gonna ask Keith Law that question on his ESPN chat, but didn't wanna get laughed at.  Good call!

    Good call on Vaughan too!

     
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    Small school Starr ready to shine at NFL scouting combine

    February 13, 2014 9:29 am ET 

    ...

    For the record, the population in Starr's hometown is 459. But the Missouri Valley Conference Player of the Year has put Little Rock, Iowa, on the NFL scouting map. An impressive showing last month at the East-West Shrine Game helped get the 6-foot-4¼, 250-pound linebacker a spot at next week's NFL combine in Indianapolis.

    "I like him a lot," said one NFL scout. "He's tall, long and extremely athletic and plays with a high motor. I'd heard some chatter about him this fall and went to see him, and he's way more athletic than I thought he'd be. You still wonder if he has enough power and strength at the point of attack right now to be an every-down guy, but he really has a knack for rushing the passer and he has some real third-down value."

    2014 Draft Prospect Rankings: Tyler Starr No. 23 among OLBs

    Word is, Starr should turn heads at the combine, not just for the long blonde hair that he hasn't cut since his freshman year at USD. Starr says he hass clocked a three-cone drill time of 6.29 in his training sessions in Tennessee. For comparison's sake, the fastest time in Indy last year was 6.52 by cornerback Will Davis from Utah. Oregon WR Jeff Maehl clocked a 6.42 in 2011, which the NFL considers its recent best. The fastest time by a linebacker last year was 6.71 by Mizzou's Zavier Gooden.

    "I think I can blow that drill out of the water," Starr told CBSSports.com on Tuesday night. Even if he's anywhere near that mark, his stock should continue to rise.

    ....

     



    This one's got my attention. Upon reading this, I immediately had to check my DVR if I still have the Shrine game. Looks like I will be watching football this weekend.



    Def got my attention as well... let us know what you see when watching the tape.



    Did not see much of him. I believe he was wearing #41. He played some snaps. I did not see the speed. I think this is a guy who could flash in the combine, but has not really figured out how to apply that speed in a real game. He was a bit indecisive. I think his recognition is a tad slow so by the time he decides where to go, it's too late.

    I am not saying he'd be a bad pick. I just did not see much on that video to get excited over him.



    Thanks for the feedback... so more athlete than football player at this point?



    IDK how to answer that. On the football field, during a game, he does not even look like an athlete. Maybe on a track... or a field where you ahve to run around cones, he could.

     
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    Mike Mayock's position rankings for 2014 NFL Draft
    • By Mike Mayock
    • NFL Media draft analyst
    • Published: Feb. 17, 2014 at 02:59 p.m.
    • Updated: Feb. 17, 2014 at 04:25 p.m.
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    With the NFL Scouting Combine beginning on Feb. 22, Mike Mayock unveils the first of his position-by-position rankings for the 2014 NFL Draft.

    Quarterback
    1. Teddy Bridgewater, Louisville
    2. Johnny Manziel, Texas A&M
    3. Blake Bortles, Central Florida
    4. Derek Carr, Fresno State
    5. AJ McCarron, Alabama

    NFL Scouting Combine
    » Participants | Top performers | Results tracker

    Combine coverage:
    » Mayock's position-by-position prospect rankings
    » Positional focus: QB | RB | WR | TE | OL | CB
    » Brooks: Freaks and flops of recent combines
    » Brandt: Eight with most to prove at combine
    » Under-the-radar combine storylines
    » 2014 NFL Scouting Combine: Inside the numbers
    » Notable players who didn't receive combine invites
    » College Football 24/7 Podcast: Latest draft buzz

    Photos:
    » NFL Scouting Combine through the years
    » Combine's best: The 40 | Bench press | Broad jump

    Video:
    » Mayock explains importance of combine workouts
    » Players to watch at 2014 combine

    Running back
    1. Carlos Hyde, Ohio State
    2. Jeremy Hill, LSU
    3. Bishop Sankey, Washington
    4. Andre Williams, Boston College
    5. Tre Mason, Auburn

    Wide receiver
    1. Sammy Watkins, Clemson
    2. Marqise Lee, USC
    3. Mike Evans, Texas A&M
    4. Kelvin Benjamin, Florida State
    5. Jarvis Landry, LSU

    Tight end
    1. Eric Ebron, North Carolina
    2. Austin Seferian-Jenkins, Washington
    3. Jace Amaro, Texas Tech
    4. Troy Niklas, Notre Dame
    5. C.J. Fiedorowicz, Iowa

    Center
    1. Marcus Martin, USC
    2. Weston Richburg, Colorado State
    3. Travis Swanson, Arkansas
    4. Bryan Stork, Florida State
    5. Gabe Ikard, Oklahoma

    Guard
    1. David Yankey, Stanford
    2. Xavier Su'a-Filo, UCLA
    3. Gabe Jackson, Mississippi State
    4. Chris Watt, Notre Dame
    5. Cyril Richardson, Baylor

    Offensive tackle
    1. Jake Matthews, Texas A&M
    2. Greg Robinson, Auburn
    3. Taylor Lewan, Michigan
    4. Zack Martin, Notre Dame
    5. Cyrus Kouandjio, Alabama

    Defensive tackle
    1. Louis Nix III, Notre Dame
    2. Timmy Jernigan, Florida State
    3. Aaron Donald, Pittsburgh
    4. Ra'Shede Hageman, Minnesota
    5. Dominique Easley, Florida

    Defensive end
    1. Jadeveon Clowney, South Carolina
    2. Kony Ealy, Missouri
    3. Dee Ford, Auburn
    4. Scott Crichton, Oregon State
    5. Trent Murphy, Stanford

     

     

    Linebacker
    1. Khalil Mack, Buffalo
    2. C.J. Mosley, Alabama
    3. Anthony Barr, UCLA
    4. Chris Borland, Wisconsin
    5. Ryan Shazier, Ohio State

    Cornerback
    1. Darqueze Dennard, Michigan State
    2. Justin Gilbert, Oklahoma State
    3. Kyle Fuller, Virginia Tech
    4. Jason Verrett, TCU
    5. Bradley Roby, Ohio State

    Safety
    1. Calvin Pryor, Louisville
    2. Ha Ha Clinton-Dix, Alabama
    3. Lamarcus Joyner, Florida State
    4. Jimmie Ward, Northern Illinois
    5. Deone Bucannon, Washington State

     
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    Small school Starr ready to shine at NFL scouting combine

    February 13, 2014 9:29 am ET 

    ...

    For the record, the population in Starr's hometown is 459. But the Missouri Valley Conference Player of the Year has put Little Rock, Iowa, on the NFL scouting map. An impressive showing last month at the East-West Shrine Game helped get the 6-foot-4¼, 250-pound linebacker a spot at next week's NFL combine in Indianapolis.

    "I like him a lot," said one NFL scout. "He's tall, long and extremely athletic and plays with a high motor. I'd heard some chatter about him this fall and went to see him, and he's way more athletic than I thought he'd be. You still wonder if he has enough power and strength at the point of attack right now to be an every-down guy, but he really has a knack for rushing the passer and he has some real third-down value."

    2014 Draft Prospect Rankings: Tyler Starr No. 23 among OLBs

    Word is, Starr should turn heads at the combine, not just for the long blonde hair that he hasn't cut since his freshman year at USD. Starr says he hass clocked a three-cone drill time of 6.29 in his training sessions in Tennessee. For comparison's sake, the fastest time in Indy last year was 6.52 by cornerback Will Davis from Utah. Oregon WR Jeff Maehl clocked a 6.42 in 2011, which the NFL considers its recent best. The fastest time by a linebacker last year was 6.71 by Mizzou's Zavier Gooden.

    "I think I can blow that drill out of the water," Starr told CBSSports.com on Tuesday night. Even if he's anywhere near that mark, his stock should continue to rise.

    ....

     



    This one's got my attention. Upon reading this, I immediately had to check my DVR if I still have the Shrine game. Looks like I will be watching football this weekend.



    Def got my attention as well... let us know what you see when watching the tape.



    Did not see much of him. I believe he was wearing #41. He played some snaps. I did not see the speed. I think this is a guy who could flash in the combine, but has not really figured out how to apply that speed in a real game. He was a bit indecisive. I think his recognition is a tad slow so by the time he decides where to go, it's too late.

    I am not saying he'd be a bad pick. I just did not see much on that video to get excited over him.



    Thanks for the feedback... so more athlete than football player at this point?



    IDK how to answer that. On the football field, during a game, he does not even look like an athlete. Maybe on a track... or a field where you ahve to run around cones, he could.



    Here are a couple of links with video.  I still see him as 7th-UDFA rd guy.  I can rush the passer but, I do not think he has the core strength when he gets locked up with an OT.  HE dropped in coverage, mostly zone. He seems liud but doesn't have a strong lower body.  Maybe a STs guy but didn't see it. He will be also making a massive leap in competition.


    http://draftbreakdown.com/players/?position=OLB

    http://www.bigblueview.com/2014-nfl-draft-mock-order-prospects-picks-new-york-giants/2014/2/17/5415066/2014-nfl-draft-prospect-profile-tyler-starr-lb-south-dakota-scouting-report-giants

    12/07/13 - 2013 MISSOURI VALLEY DEFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE YEAR: LB Tyler Starr, South Dakota...71 tackles (42 solo), 15 TFL (80 yds), 9.0 sacks (67 yds), 1 INT, 4 BRUP, 5 QBH, 4 FF ... Nation’s active career leader in forced fumbles (13) … also ranks second in solo tackles for loss (39) and fourth in total sacks (27.0) … earned all those achievements in just three years of play … Coyotes’ all-time leader in sacks with 27.0 (all solo).

    MVFC’s overall leader in forced fumbles (4), sacks (9.0) and tackles-for-loss (15.0) … finished fifth in the nation in forced fumbles, 14th in sacks and 23rd in tackles-for-loss … was USD’s second-leading tackler … had at least six tackles in each of his last eight games … had three games with two sacks … had a season-high eight tackles, two sacks and three tackles-for-loss in a win against Missouri State … got his first collegiate interception against Western Illinois … had seven tackles, a sack and forced a fumble against Youngstown State. Voting (Points)50 -- Tyler Starr, South Dakota ...34 -- Grant Olson, North Dakota State...31 -- Caleb Schaffitzel, Missouri State...14 -- R.C. Kilgore, South Dakota State...12 -- Colton Underwood, Illinois State. - Missouri Valley football

     

     

    OB TYLER STARR, SOUTH DAKOTA

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    6’5” – 250 lbs. – 4.85e

    STATISTICAL PROFILE:

    2009: Redshirt
    2010: DNP (Academics)
    2011: 51 – 19.0 – 14.0, 7 FF, 2 FR (DE)
    2012: 74 – 7.0 – 4.0, 4 QBH, 2 FF, 2 PD, 1 BK (OB)
    2013: 71 – 15.0 – 9.0, 4 FF, 4 PD, 1 INT

    OVERVIEW:

    Redshirted in 2009, then continued to work on the scout team in 2010 due to academic issues. Started at defensive end in 2011, leading the league in sacks en route to first-team all-conference honors. Played in all eleven games as a junior, starting ten at outside linebacker once the team transitioned to a 3-4. Was named conference Defensive Player of the Year as a senior after starting eleven of twelve games, leading the conference in sacks once again.

    POSITIVES:

    •    Started over the past three years, earning first-team all-conference recognition twice.
    •    Tall, long-limbed player who also possesses adequate bulk, additional growth potential.
    •    Has experience in both defensive fronts: played end in a 4-3 in 2011, linebacker after.
    •    Can compensate for his lack of ideal speed to some extent with his decent initial burst.
    •    Pretty powerful player, forceful on initial contact, whether versus blockers or tackling.
    •    Avoids committing to a course of action too soon, maintains backside contain vs. run.
    •    Combination of arm length, active hand use are joined by a few different rush moves.
    •    Rebounded from previous academic issues, was named to the MVFC Honor Roll in ’11.

    NEGATIVES:

    •    Will be forced to adjust to a dramatically-improved level of competition at the next level.
    •    Despite weighing 250 pounds, doesn’t anchor very well, looks much stronger downhill.
    •    Awareness needs refinement; problems with misdirection, read option, locating ball.
    •    Balance can be a problem; when trying to bend the edge, often ends up on the ground.
    •    Probably not someone who should be used in coverage very often, certainly not man.
    •    Academic issues caused him to miss the 2010 season, admitted to lacking direction.

    SUMMARY:

    Starr was a productive player over the past three seasons at South Dakota, but will be making a massive leap up in level of competition at the pro level. Fortunately, he possesses impressive height and length which are consistent with pro pass rushers, augmenting those characteristics with adequate bulk, relatively impressive explosion and power, and a high motor. Those factors probably won’t be enough to completely mask his athletic deficiencies, and any bulk added in a pro strength program may make those weaknesses more visible, but teams looking for a tall developmental rusher with the frame to carry more bulk may give him consideration as a late-round candidate or priority free agent assuming his background/character check out.

     
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    UNDER-THE-RADAR PROSPECTS TO WATCH FOR THE 2014 DRAFT 

    by Colin Lindsay
    GBN Editor and Publisher

    For the most part, the NFL draft is the preserve of the big-time college football programs. Indeed, every year, something in the neighborhood of 85% of all players drafted are from a D1A school with the large majority of those coming from BCS conferences. Hope springs eternal though, and NFL teams - and their most loyal followers - are always looking for that diamond in the rough who just might be the difference between an also-ran and a championship team and over the course of the next couple of months we'll profile some of the more intrigued so-called sleepers for the upcoming draft.

    February 14, 2014

    Profiles of 5 unheralded prospects who have been invitedto this year's scouting combine in Indianapolis

    DT Tenny Palepoi; Utah, 6-1, 300, 5.15 …  Underrated interior defensive lineman was a junior college All-American in 2011 and then was part of a rotation backing up 2013 first rounder Star Lotulelei last fall, but had a productive year this past season when he finally got a chance to start regularly. Built a little bit like a fire hydrant with very good strength, he did a nice job clogging up the middle as the Utes’ nose tackle this past year as he finished with 53 tackles, including 4.5 sacks and 5 other tackles for loss. 


    DT Mike Pennel; Colorado State - Pueblo; 6-3, 365, 5.25 … Could be one of the biggest stories of the combine - both literally and figuratively - although he does not have much of a track record on the field and also appears to be bringing a lot of baggage. Indeed, brings new meaning to the term ‘million-dollar talent, 5-cent brain!‘ Certainly will be hard to miss at the combine as he is a genuinely massive guy at over 365 pounds who was a junior college All-American in 2011 when he had 5 sacks at Scottsdale CC in Arizona. Originally committed to Arkansas for his junior year in 2012, but ultimately ended up at Arizona State where he played in only 5 games that year after being suspended twice for not meeting team standards. Pennel then moved on to CSU-Pueblo last fall, but again spent much of the season in the coach’s proverbial doghouse. In fact, was suspended three times for a total of 6 games this past season for a variety of infractions. 
      ...


    I've mentioned Palepoi a couple of times... seems like a high motor kid with a very good burst and lateral agility... I'll have to look into the rest.



    Been scouring the internet for sleepers. One DT that I am trying to learn more about is QuayShawne Buckley - a senior from University of Idaho. He's 6-4, 305.

    The kid will probably go undrafted. He does not even appear in CBSSports' prospect list (That is a very extensive list). 

    Yet, his 6.5 sacks this season ranks 5th among DTs/NTs, behind Donald, Bromley, Quarles and Whitlock (a 250lb kid who's listed on ESPN as a NT). I can't seem to find a list for TFLs, but I know he has 15 TFLs - probably good enough for top 5 again among DTs.

    The only video I found on him was a highlight video on youtube. While it's biased to showing his good traits, IMO it's pretty clear from this video that this kid is a very athletic and high motor 6-4, 305. From this video, it is easy to understand how he generated those TFLs and sacks. He could be a late bloomer who's just blooming at the right time for a team who picks him up.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KlHaqjF6yk



    http://lmtribune.com/blogs/idaho_vandals/article_135a5388-749a-11e2-a099-001a4bcf6878.html

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    QuayShawne Buckley, who started at defensive tackle for the Vandals, has been dismissed from the team following a DUI charge stemming from a car crash on February 2nd.

       

    Posted: Monday, February 11, 2013 2:26 pm | Updated: 3:53 pm, Mon Feb 11, 2013.

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    Idaho defensive tackle QuayShawne Buckley has been dismissed from the team after he was arrested for driving under the influence in the early-morning hours of Feb. 2.

     

    Buckley's dismissal was confirmed to the Tribune by Idaho officials.

    According to a police report filed by Moscow Police, Buckley crashed his car into a pair of parked cars and then failed field sobriety tests.

    No one was hurt in the crash.

     

    http://idaho.scout.com/2/1332782.html

    He also left in 2012, not a good track record.

     

    Quayshawne Buckley   Ht: 6-3 Wt: 303
    Position: DT Date of Birth: 08/25/1991 Class: Senior High School: Colony HS
    (Ontario, CA) College: Idaho

     

     

     

    Biography: CAREER STATS
    - Honorable Mention FBS All-Independent Team (2013)
    2011 - 38 tackles, 5 TFL, 1 sack
    2012 - 25 tackles, 6 TFL, 3 sacks

    2013 INSIDE SLANT
    Buckley joined the Vandals in the fall of 2011 after signing originally with Washington State in 2009. The standout defensive line prospect never enrolled at WSU, and eventually made his way to the University of Idaho campus in 2010.

    He was cleared by the NCAA and was eased into action for the Silver and Gold spring game in 2011. After seeing spot duty in the first four games, Buckley had a break out performance at Virginia (six tackles, one sack, and two tackles for loss). That game cemented his home on the Vandal defensive line (six starts while playing in all 12 games) as he finished the year with 38 tackles (12 solo), including a seven tackle performance at BYU.

    Last fall (2012) Buckley finished 25 tackles on the season (13 solo), six tackles for loss and three quarterback sacks. His signature game of the season came at home against the Wyoming Cowboys, where he finished with two quarterback sacks and five tackles (four solo).

    Buckley was removed from the team at the end of the 2012 season for a violation of team rules, but worked with the new Idaho coaching staff during the spring and summer (he was not with the team for spring camp), and was reinstated on the team shortly before the team regrouped for fall camp.

    For 2013 the 6-foot-3, 303-pound Buckley is expected to top the defensive tackle (3-technique) depth chart and is expected to anchor what could be a solid Vandal defensive front line.


    HIGH SCHOOL
    Buckley joined the Vandal football team in the fall of 2011 after a highly successful career at Colony High School (Ontario, Calif.). As a senior, he was a First-Team All-California Interscholastic Federation selection on both the offensive and defensive lines, as well as his team's MVP and a First-Team Mt. Baldy League offensive and defensive lineman. To round out his prep career, he played in the California All-State game - the Fiesta Bowl at Whittier College. An outstanding two-way high school prospecct, Buckley was ranked the No.54 offensive guard and a 3-star prospect in the nation by Scout.com. On signing day he had offers from Idaho, Washington State, Oregon State, and Colorado State, and originally signed with the Cougars.

    "He's a man among boys out there," said Anthony Rice, his high school coach. "Great motor, great instincts and he lives for football. WSU liked the fact that he had a motor and that his hands -- this kid has huge hands -- so I guess they feel he's probably going to grow even more."

    Prior to his senior season, Buckley also earned First-Team recognition by the CIT and Mt. Baldy League as a junior. His team won back-to-back CIF championships during his sophomore and junior seasons.

    As a sophomore, he earned first-team honors from the Mt. Baldy League and second-team recognition from the CIF.
     
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    Mike Mayock's position rankings for 2014 NFL Draft

    • By Mike Mayock
    • NFL Media draft analyst
    • Published: Feb. 17, 2014 at 02:59 p.m.
    • Updated: Feb. 17, 2014 at 04:25 p.m.
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    With the NFL Scouting Combine beginning on Feb. 22, Mike Mayock unveils the first of his position-by-position rankings for the 2014 NFL Draft.

    Quarterback
    1. Teddy Bridgewater, Louisville
    2. Johnny Manziel, Texas A&M
    3. Blake Bortles, Central Florida
    4. Derek Carr, Fresno State
    5. AJ McCarron, Alabama

    NFL Scouting Combine
    » Participants | Top performers | Results tracker

    Combine coverage:
    » Mayock's position-by-position prospect rankings
    » Positional focus: QB | RB | WR | TE | OL | CB
    » Brooks: Freaks and flops of recent combines
    » Brandt: Eight with most to prove at combine
    » Under-the-radar combine storylines
    » 2014 NFL Scouting Combine: Inside the numbers
    » Notable players who didn't receive combine invites
    » College Football 24/7 Podcast: Latest draft buzz

    Photos:
    » NFL Scouting Combine through the years
    » Combine's best: The 40 | Bench press | Broad jump

    Video:
    » Mayock explains importance of combine workouts
    » Players to watch at 2014 combine

    Running back
    1. Carlos Hyde, Ohio State
    2. Jeremy Hill, LSU
    3. Bishop Sankey, Washington
    4. Andre Williams, Boston College
    5. Tre Mason, Auburn

    Wide receiver
    1. Sammy Watkins, Clemson
    2. Marqise Lee, USC
    3. Mike Evans, Texas A&M
    4. Kelvin Benjamin, Florida State
    5. Jarvis Landry, LSU

    Tight end
    1. Eric Ebron, North Carolina
    2. Austin Seferian-Jenkins, Washington
    3. Jace Amaro, Texas Tech
    4. Troy Niklas, Notre Dame
    5. C.J. Fiedorowicz, Iowa

    Center
    1. Marcus Martin, USC
    2. Weston Richburg, Colorado State
    3. Travis Swanson, Arkansas
    4. Bryan Stork, Florida State
    5. Gabe Ikard, Oklahoma

    Guard
    1. David Yankey, Stanford
    2. Xavier Su'a-Filo, UCLA
    3. Gabe Jackson, Mississippi State
    4. Chris Watt, Notre Dame
    5. Cyril Richardson, Baylor

    Offensive tackle
    1. Jake Matthews, Texas A&M
    2. Greg Robinson, Auburn
    3. Taylor Lewan, Michigan
    4. Zack Martin, Notre Dame
    5. Cyrus Kouandjio, Alabama

    Defensive tackle
    1. Louis Nix III, Notre Dame
    2. Timmy Jernigan, Florida State
    3. Aaron Donald, Pittsburgh
    4. Ra'Shede Hageman, Minnesota
    5. Dominique Easley, Florida

    Defensive end
    1. Jadeveon Clowney, South Carolina
    2. Kony Ealy, Missouri
    3. Dee Ford, Auburn
    4. Scott Crichton, Oregon State
    5. Trent Murphy, Stanford

     

     

    Linebacker
    1. Khalil Mack, Buffalo
    2. C.J. Mosley, Alabama
    3. Anthony Barr, UCLA
    4. Chris Borland, Wisconsin
    5. Ryan Shazier, Ohio State

    Cornerback
    1. Darqueze Dennard, Michigan State
    2. Justin Gilbert, Oklahoma State
    3. Kyle Fuller, Virginia Tech
    4. Jason Verrett, TCU
    5. Bradley Roby, Ohio State

    Safety
    1. Calvin Pryor, Louisville
    2. Ha Ha Clinton-Dix, Alabama
    3. Lamarcus Joyner, Florida State
    4. Jimmie Ward, Northern Illinois
    5. Deone Bucannon, Washington State



    He's seen as much of Tuitt as anybody (does color for the NBC/ND broadcast), surprised that he doesn't have him listed at this point.

     
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    UNDER-THE-RADAR PROSPECTS TO WATCH FOR THE 2014 DRAFT 

    by Colin Lindsay
    GBN Editor and Publisher

    For the most part, the NFL draft is the preserve of the big-time college football programs. Indeed, every year, something in the neighborhood of 85% of all players drafted are from a D1A school with the large majority of those coming from BCS conferences. Hope springs eternal though, and NFL teams - and their most loyal followers - are always looking for that diamond in the rough who just might be the difference between an also-ran and a championship team and over the course of the next couple of months we'll profile some of the more intrigued so-called sleepers for the upcoming draft.

    February 14, 2014

    Profiles of 5 unheralded prospects who have been invitedto this year's scouting combine in Indianapolis

    DT Tenny Palepoi; Utah, 6-1, 300, 5.15 …  Underrated interior defensive lineman was a junior college All-American in 2011 and then was part of a rotation backing up 2013 first rounder Star Lotulelei last fall, but had a productive year this past season when he finally got a chance to start regularly. Built a little bit like a fire hydrant with very good strength, he did a nice job clogging up the middle as the Utes’ nose tackle this past year as he finished with 53 tackles, including 4.5 sacks and 5 other tackles for loss. 


    DT Mike Pennel; Colorado State - Pueblo; 6-3, 365, 5.25 … Could be one of the biggest stories of the combine - both literally and figuratively - although he does not have much of a track record on the field and also appears to be bringing a lot of baggage. Indeed, brings new meaning to the term ‘million-dollar talent, 5-cent brain!‘ Certainly will be hard to miss at the combine as he is a genuinely massive guy at over 365 pounds who was a junior college All-American in 2011 when he had 5 sacks at Scottsdale CC in Arizona. Originally committed to Arkansas for his junior year in 2012, but ultimately ended up at Arizona State where he played in only 5 games that year after being suspended twice for not meeting team standards. Pennel then moved on to CSU-Pueblo last fall, but again spent much of the season in the coach’s proverbial doghouse. In fact, was suspended three times for a total of 6 games this past season for a variety of infractions. 
      ...


    I've mentioned Palepoi a couple of times... seems like a high motor kid with a very good burst and lateral agility... I'll have to look into the rest.



    Been scouring the internet for sleepers. One DT that I am trying to learn more about is QuayShawne Buckley - a senior from University of Idaho. He's 6-4, 305.

    The kid will probably go undrafted. He does not even appear in CBSSports' prospect list (That is a very extensive list). 

    Yet, his 6.5 sacks this season ranks 5th among DTs/NTs, behind Donald, Bromley, Quarles and Whitlock (a 250lb kid who's listed on ESPN as a NT). I can't seem to find a list for TFLs, but I know he has 15 TFLs - probably good enough for top 5 again among DTs.

    The only video I found on him was a highlight video on youtube. While it's biased to showing his good traits, IMO it's pretty clear from this video that this kid is a very athletic and high motor 6-4, 305. From this video, it is easy to understand how he generated those TFLs and sacks. He could be a late bloomer who's just blooming at the right time for a team who picks him up.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KlHaqjF6yk



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    QuayShawne Buckley, who started at defensive tackle for the Vandals, has been dismissed from the team following a DUI charge stemming from a car crash on February 2nd.

       

    Posted: Monday, February 11, 2013 2:26 pm | Updated: 3:53 pm, Mon Feb 11, 2013.

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    Idaho defensive tackle QuayShawne Buckley has been dismissed from the team after he was arrested for driving under the influence in the early-morning hours of Feb. 2.

     

    Buckley's dismissal was confirmed to the Tribune by Idaho officials.

    According to a police report filed by Moscow Police, Buckley crashed his car into a pair of parked cars and then failed field sobriety tests.

    No one was hurt in the crash.



    Good info, jj.  Doesn't seem that kids generally get dismissed for DUI's, at least not at BCS programs, so you have to wonder if this wasn't his first off the field issue.

     
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    He's seen as much of Tuitt as anybody (does color for the NBC/ND broadcast), surprised that he doesn't have him listed at this point.



    Yes, but he has WATT rated at OG.  Watt seems to be playing under thre radar.  I think on Tuitt, you see a lot of sites list him as just a 34DE.  I think he he play 43DT also.

     
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    Interesting read.....

     

    UNDER-THE-RADAR PROSPECTS TO WATCH FOR THE 2014 DRAFT 

    by Colin Lindsay
    GBN Editor and Publisher

    For the most part, the NFL draft is the preserve of the big-time college football programs. Indeed, every year, something in the neighborhood of 85% of all players drafted are from a D1A school with the large majority of those coming from BCS conferences. Hope springs eternal though, and NFL teams - and their most loyal followers - are always looking for that diamond in the rough who just might be the difference between an also-ran and a championship team and over the course of the next couple of months we'll profile some of the more intrigued so-called sleepers for the upcoming draft.

    February 14, 2014

    Profiles of 5 unheralded prospects who have been invitedto this year's scouting combine in Indianapolis

    DT Tenny Palepoi; Utah, 6-1, 300, 5.15 …  Underrated interior defensive lineman was a junior college All-American in 2011 and then was part of a rotation backing up 2013 first rounder Star Lotulelei last fall, but had a productive year this past season when he finally got a chance to start regularly. Built a little bit like a fire hydrant with very good strength, he did a nice job clogging up the middle as the Utes’ nose tackle this past year as he finished with 53 tackles, including 4.5 sacks and 5 other tackles for loss. 


    DT Mike Pennel; Colorado State - Pueblo; 6-3, 365, 5.25 … Could be one of the biggest stories of the combine - both literally and figuratively - although he does not have much of a track record on the field and also appears to be bringing a lot of baggage. Indeed, brings new meaning to the term ‘million-dollar talent, 5-cent brain!‘ Certainly will be hard to miss at the combine as he is a genuinely massive guy at over 365 pounds who was a junior college All-American in 2011 when he had 5 sacks at Scottsdale CC in Arizona. Originally committed to Arkansas for his junior year in 2012, but ultimately ended up at Arizona State where he played in only 5 games that year after being suspended twice for not meeting team standards. Pennel then moved on to CSU-Pueblo last fall, but again spent much of the season in the coach’s proverbial doghouse. In fact, was suspended three times for a total of 6 games this past season for a variety of infractions. 
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    I've mentioned Palepoi a couple of times... seems like a high motor kid with a very good burst and lateral agility... I'll have to look into the rest.



    Been scouring the internet for sleepers. One DT that I am trying to learn more about is QuayShawne Buckley - a senior from University of Idaho. He's 6-4, 305.

    The kid will probably go undrafted. He does not even appear in CBSSports' prospect list (That is a very extensive list). 

    Yet, his 6.5 sacks this season ranks 5th among DTs/NTs, behind Donald, Bromley, Quarles and Whitlock (a 250lb kid who's listed on ESPN as a NT). I can't seem to find a list for TFLs, but I know he has 15 TFLs - probably good enough for top 5 again among DTs.

    The only video I found on him was a highlight video on youtube. While it's biased to showing his good traits, IMO it's pretty clear from this video that this kid is a very athletic and high motor 6-4, 305. From this video, it is easy to understand how he generated those TFLs and sacks. He could be a late bloomer who's just blooming at the right time for a team who picks him up.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KlHaqjF6yk



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    QuayShawne Buckley, who started at defensive tackle for the Vandals, has been dismissed from the team following a DUI charge stemming from a car crash on February 2nd.

       

    Posted: Monday, February 11, 2013 2:26 pm | Updated: 3:53 pm, Mon Feb 11, 2013.

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    Idaho defensive tackle QuayShawne Buckley has been dismissed from the team after he was arrested for driving under the influence in the early-morning hours of Feb. 2.

     

    Buckley's dismissal was confirmed to the Tribune by Idaho officials.

    According to a police report filed by Moscow Police, Buckley crashed his car into a pair of parked cars and then failed field sobriety tests.

    No one was hurt in the crash.



    Good info, jj.  Doesn't seem that kids generally get dismissed for DUI's, at least not at BCS programs, so you have to wonder if this wasn't his first off the field issue.




    Yes, I edited my post.  That was his second offense.

     
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    He's seen as much of Tuitt as anybody (does color for the NBC/ND broadcast), surprised that he doesn't have him listed at this point.



    Yes, but he has WATT rated at OG.  Watt seems to be playing under thre radar.  I think on Tuitt, you see a lot of sites list him as just a 34DE.  I think he he play 43DT also.



    I like Watt, have him in my board... prob a mid-round kid... good size, physical, nasty and cant get to the 2nd level, get out in space.  The ND OL is very well coached.

     
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    We have talked about most you these guys.  Anyone have a report on Dri Archer, Kent State?  I read that he could break 4.3 in the 40.   I like Westbrooks as a Day three pick for DE/OLB, he needs to prove himself at the combine.     NFP » Columns » College Football Report RSS 10 players to watch at the 2014 NFL Combine

    Keep an eye on these names in Indianapolis. by Dave Miller, NFP

       

     

    The eyes of the football world turn to Indianapolis starting on Saturday, as the NFL Scouting Combine commences.

    Here are 10 players that have piqued my interest as we inch closer to one of the league's marquee offseason events.

    Alabama quarterback AJ McCarron: The 6-4, 214-pounder did not participate in Senior Bowl activities, so this is the first time that NFL scouts will really get to be around the former Crimson Tide national champion for a significant amount of time. We'll see if he throws in Indy or if he rests on his career numbers in Tuscaloosa. There are differing opinions on McCarron's NFL future, but I believe he has a chance to have a similar beginning of a career to that of Cincinnati Bengals QB Andy Dalton. Although McCarron might be more accurate as a passer, especially on his deep throws.

    Auburn offensive tackle Greg Robinson: Robinson has a chance to continue to move up draft boards with a strong showing at Lucas Oil Stadium. While Texas A&M's Jake Matthews is perhaps the more known O-Line commodity nationally, Robinson has a chance to be the first offensive tackle taken if scouts believe he has the goods to be a strong pass protector. We already know he is a dominant run-blocker based off of his fantastic 2013 season at Auburn.

    Blake BortlesUS PRESSWIREHow high will Blake Bortles go in this year's NFL Draft?

    Central Florida quarterback Blake Bortles: Can Bortles be the first selection in this year's draft? It is uncertain as to whether or not he'll throw in Indy, but new Houston Texans head coach Bill O'Brien knows his quarterbacks. And he also will be able to get the inside scoop on Bortles from UCF head coach George O'Leary, who was the head coach at Georgia Tech when O'Brien was on that staff. O'Brien also witnessed UCF beat his Penn State squad last year. Bortles has deceptive athleticism and nice touch on his throws. Even if O'Brien likes him as a future franchise  signal-caller, it might be hard for Houston to not select South Carolina defensive end Jadeveon Clowney or possibly even trade the pick.

    Florida State wide receiver Kelvin Benjamin: The 6-5, 234-pounder has a size-speed combination that will make NFL scouts drool. But the knock on him has been a propensity to drop passes. However, so often in 2013 he resembled a beast at the receiver position, and I expect the drops to be corrected and not remain a major issue moving forward. He is unquestionably raw, but he could be a red-zone weapon at worst if he adapts to the NFL game.

    Ohio State running back Carlos Hyde: The 6-foot, 242-pounder almost single-handedly turned the Northwestern football season upside down with his strong second-half performance in a comeback win over the Wildcats at Ryan Field last fall. The battering ram finished with over 1,500 yards and averaged over 7.0 yards per carry in 2013, but he won't test well when it comes to his speed. However, he is deceptively athletic and could immediately help a team next year that has a featured back in place.

    Michigan State cornerback Darqueze Dennard: There are questions about Dennard's speed, especially when you compare him to Oklahoma State corner Justin Gilbert. But anyone who saw Dennard play during his time with the Spartans knows how much of a shutdown corner he has been. He is very physical, but will his 40-yard-dash time cause him to slide down draft boards? If it does, one NFL team will be very lucky to get him.

    Missouri defensive end Michael Sam: Unfortunately, Sam will be hounded by the press for non-football reasons. But as I mentioned before the Senior Bowl, the pass-rush specialist doesn't have great power and size against the run. But he led the SEC in sacks (10.5) and tackles for loss (18) in 2013. A lot of scouts believe that he will need to make the switch to outside linebacker in a 3-4 scheme. He's a bit of a tweener, so it's always interesting to gauge the stock of those types.

    Oregon tight end Colt Lyerla: The interview process should be a fascinating one for the former Duck, who has run into off-the-field issues, including cocaine possession. The Combine will be the first time he has been around the game in awhile since leaving Eugene, but his talent and athleticism cannot be argued.

    Eastern Illinois quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo: The FCS signal-caller was the talk of the Senior Bowl after his strong week in Mobile, so we'll see what Garoppolo has in store for an encore. The Tony Romo/Joe Flacco comparisons have been made, but lost in that talk is the fact that Garoppolo has a real chance to prove his worth at the same event that will also be hosting the biggest names from this past college football season. It's another spotlight moment for the former EIU QB.

    West Texas A&M defensive end Ethan Westbrooks: The Division II product has a tough road to prove that he is worthy of a pick because he is coming from a smaller school. But he has good quickness for his 6-3, 264-pound frame, and he performed very well in the East-West Shrine Game with two sacks and as a disruptor in the backfield against the run.

    Other players to monitor

    Texas A&M QB Johnny Manziel: While he won't throw in Indy, Johnny Football will be monitored wherever he goes as was the case at this past season's SEC Media Days. Cameras and tape recorders will be all around him. Perhaps a nugget or two will come out of his interviews with NFL teams as well.

    South Carolina DE Jadeveon Clowney: The former Gamecock has flirted with the idea of running a 4.4 in the 40. That sounds insane for a player his size, but he is a physical freak.

    Kent State RB Dri Archer & South Carolina WR Bruce Ellington: There have only been nine players at the NFL Combine to run the 40-yard-dash in under 4.3 seconds. Archer and Ellington have a chance to pull off the feat this year.

     

     
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    We have talked about most you these guys.  Anyone have a report on Dri Archer, Kent State?  I read that he could break 4.3 in the 40.   I like Westbrooks as a Day three pick for DE/OLB, he needs to prove himself at the combine.     NFP » Columns » College Football Report RSS10 players to watch at the 2014 NFL Combine

    Keep an eye on these names in Indianapolis. by Dave Miller, NFP

      

     

    The eyes of the football world turn to Indianapolis starting on Saturday, as the NFL Scouting Combine commences.

    Here are 10 players that have piqued my interest as we inch closer to one of the league's marquee offseason events.

    Alabama quarterback AJ McCarron: The 6-4, 214-pounder did not participate in Senior Bowl activities, so this is the first time that NFL scouts will really get to be around the former Crimson Tide national champion for a significant amount of time. We'll see if he throws in Indy or if he rests on his career numbers in Tuscaloosa. There are differing opinions on McCarron's NFL future, but I believe he has a chance to have a similar beginning of a career to that of Cincinnati Bengals QB Andy Dalton. Although McCarron might be more accurate as a passer, especially on his deep throws.

    Auburn offensive tackle Greg Robinson: Robinson has a chance to continue to move up draft boards with a strong showing at Lucas Oil Stadium. While Texas A&M's Jake Matthews is perhaps the more known O-Line commodity nationally, Robinson has a chance to be the first offensive tackle taken if scouts believe he has the goods to be a strong pass protector. We already know he is a dominant run-blocker based off of his fantastic 2013 season at Auburn.

    Blake BortlesUS PRESSWIREHow high will Blake Bortles go in this year's NFL Draft?

    Central Florida quarterback Blake Bortles: Can Bortles be the first selection in this year's draft? It is uncertain as to whether or not he'll throw in Indy, but new Houston Texans head coach Bill O'Brien knows his quarterbacks. And he also will be able to get the inside scoop on Bortles from UCF head coach George O'Leary, who was the head coach at Georgia Tech when O'Brien was on that staff. O'Brien also witnessed UCF beat his Penn State squad last year. Bortles has deceptive athleticism and nice touch on his throws. Even if O'Brien likes him as a future franchise  signal-caller, it might be hard for Houston to not select South Carolina defensive end Jadeveon Clowney or possibly even trade the pick.

    Florida State wide receiver Kelvin Benjamin: The 6-5, 234-pounder has a size-speed combination that will make NFL scouts drool. But the knock on him has been a propensity to drop passes. However, so often in 2013 he resembled a beast at the receiver position, and I expect the drops to be corrected and not remain a major issue moving forward. He is unquestionably raw, but he could be a red-zone weapon at worst if he adapts to the NFL game.

    Ohio State running back Carlos Hyde: The 6-foot, 242-pounder almost single-handedly turned the Northwestern football season upside down with his strong second-half performance in a comeback win over the Wildcats at Ryan Field last fall. The battering ram finished with over 1,500 yards and averaged over 7.0 yards per carry in 2013, but he won't test well when it comes to his speed. However, he is deceptively athletic and could immediately help a team next year that has a featured back in place.

    Michigan State cornerback Darqueze Dennard: There are questions about Dennard's speed, especially when you compare him to Oklahoma State corner Justin Gilbert. But anyone who saw Dennard play during his time with the Spartans knows how much of a shutdown corner he has been. He is very physical, but will his 40-yard-dash time cause him to slide down draft boards? If it does, one NFL team will be very lucky to get him.

    Missouri defensive end Michael Sam: Unfortunately, Sam will be hounded by the press for non-football reasons. But as I mentioned before the Senior Bowl, the pass-rush specialist doesn't have great power and size against the run. But he led the SEC in sacks (10.5) and tackles for loss (18) in 2013. A lot of scouts believe that he will need to make the switch to outside linebacker in a 3-4 scheme. He's a bit of a tweener, so it's always interesting to gauge the stock of those types.

    Oregon tight end Colt Lyerla: The interview process should be a fascinating one for the former Duck, who has run into off-the-field issues, including cocaine possession. The Combine will be the first time he has been around the game in awhile since leaving Eugene, but his talent and athleticism cannot be argued.

    Eastern Illinois quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo: The FCS signal-caller was the talk of the Senior Bowl after his strong week in Mobile, so we'll see what Garoppolo has in store for an encore. The Tony Romo/Joe Flacco comparisons have been made, but lost in that talk is the fact that Garoppolo has a real chance to prove his worth at the same event that will also be hosting the biggest names from this past college football season. It's another spotlight moment for the former EIU QB.

    West Texas A&M defensive end Ethan Westbrooks: The Division II product has a tough road to prove that he is worthy of a pick because he is coming from a smaller school. But he has good quickness for his 6-3, 264-pound frame, and he performed very well in the East-West Shrine Game with two sacks and as a disruptor in the backfield against the run.

    Other players to monitor

    Texas A&M QB Johnny Manziel: While he won't throw in Indy, Johnny Football will be monitored wherever he goes as was the case at this past season's SEC Media Days. Cameras and tape recorders will be all around him. Perhaps a nugget or two will come out of his interviews with NFL teams as well.

    South Carolina DE Jadeveon Clowney: The former Gamecock has flirted with the idea of running a 4.4 in the 40. That sounds insane for a player his size, but he is a physical freak.

    Kent State RB Dri Archer & South Carolina WR Bruce Ellington: There have only been nine players at the NFL Combine to run the 40-yard-dash in under 4.3 seconds. Archer and Ellington have a chance to pull off the feat this year.

     



    I liken Arther to a Dexter McCluster type... very undersized, but is sudden, quick-twitched with good speed and all-purpose potential.

    Really like Ellington... posted about him the other day... shorter (5-9 195), but well built in the lower half.

     

     
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    Rich Gosselin is a good sports writer. He always does well with the draft and prospects. I need to check out the two below. Chancellor is 5"8" 186lbs, not sure on his 40.

     

    Gosselin: Why the NFL should've invited SMU's Garrett Gilbert, North Texas' Brelan Chancellor to combine                       4       19       0         5 AA Brian Spurlock-USA TODAY Sports/USA TODAY Sports The most important aspects of the combine are often the ones that get the least publicity — players measuring in, going through the medical checks and the team interviews that could put many questions to rest or raise an entirely new set of concerns. So with more than 300 NFL draft hopefuls attending the second biggest off-season event on the NFL calendar — and the only that draws team owners, team executives, league officials, coaches, agents and potential future stars to the same venue— this week will be far more than just a two-man show. — Associated Press 1 of 6   Next Image  

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    Published: 16 February 2014 10:52 PM

    Updated: 16 February 2014 11:34 PM

    The top 335 draft prospects will gather in Indianapolis this week for the NFL’s annual scouting combine.

    But I find it hard to believe that any gathering of the top 335 draft-eligible prospects would not include a single player from SMU or North Texas.

    More specifically, I find it hard to believe that SMU quarterback Garrett Gilbert and North Texas wide receiver Brelan Chancellor will not be joining me in Indianapolis this week.

    Gilbert was once the most heralded schoolboy quarterback in the land, selected by Parade magazine as its national Player of the Year in 2008.

    Gilbert threw for two touchdowns off the bench in the national title game against Alabama as a true freshman at Texas, then went on to start 14 games for the Longhorns over the next two years before suffering a season-ending shoulder injury in 2011.

    Gilbert transferred to SMU in 2012 and rebuilt his career under June Jones. He passed for 2,932 yards and 15 touchdowns in his first year learning a new offense in 2012, then threw for 3,528 yards and 21 touchdowns in 2013 before a knee injury ended his season in the 10th game.

    Gilbert averaged 352.8 yards per game passing in 2013, fourth best in the nation. The only draft-eligible quarterback ahead of him was invited the combine, Derek Carr of Fresno State. Carr was among the 19 quarterbacks who will be in Indianapolis this weekend. But no Gilbert.

    And no Chancellor. The NFL deemed 48 wide receivers worthy of invitations to the combine, including players from Coastal Carolina, Saginaw Valley State and Georgia State. But one of the best dual-purpose returners in this draft must sit at home waiting for his pro day.

    In addition to catching 47 passes at North Texas, Chancellor finished fifth in the NCAA in punt returns with an average of 16.1 yards and 11th in kickoff returns with an average of 27.6 yards. With the growing premium on special teams in the NFL, it’s hard to believe the combine whiffed on Chancellor.

    Players are invited to participate by a committee of 8-12 NFL talent evaluators, including representatives from the two major scouting combines (National and Blesto) plus 8-10 NFL teams.

    But combine snubs are obstacles Gilbert and Chancellor can overcome. There were 29 non-combine players selected in the 2013 draft and 166 undrafted college free agents who played as rookies in the NFL last season.

    The NFL didn’t invite SMU wide receiver Cole Beasley or safety Chris Banjo to the 2012 combine. Neither was drafted, but both have gone on to start games in the NFL, Beasley with the Cowboys and Banjo the Packers.

    The NFL also failed to invite North Texas running back Lance Dunbar and tight end Jamize Olawale to the 2012 combine. Both went undrafted, but Dunbar now plays for the Cowboys and Olawale the Raiders.

    I like the chances of Gilbert and Chancellor joining that fraternity in 2014. And so do their coaches.

    Gilbert had a 500-yard passing game against Temple, a couple of 400-yard games against Cincinnati and Rutgers and 300-yard days against Texas A&M and Texas Tech. He also rushed for six touchdowns and has the size the NFL covets in a quarterback — 6-4, 225 pounds.

    “If an NFL teams takes Garrett’s last three games of 2012 and any games they want to grade from this year — just grade the games when the light went on in our offense — I believe Garrett Gilbert would grade out in the top three quarterbacks of this draft,” Jones said. “Maybe the very top.”

    Caliber of competition can’t be an issue for Chancellor. Not after he broke a kickoff 99 yards for a touchdown against then No. 9 Georgia in September. He also returned a punt 65 yards for a score against Rice, caught an 85-yard TD pass against Idaho and rushed for two touchdowns in the Heart of Dallas Bowl against UNLV.

    “I’d be shocked if Brelan Chancellor is not on an active roster after the final cuts are made that first day of the 2014 NFL season,” North Texas coach Dan McCarney said.

    “There’s a fire burning inside of him all the time. I’m sure he’s been sold short many times in his career. But he doesn’t flinch. He doesn’t give in to adversity. He just goes on about his business and finds a way to prove a lot of folks wrong … again.”

    If the NFL never missed on a player, Wes Welker wouldn’t have played a down on Sundays. He wasn’t invited to his combine. That was five 100-catch seasons and five Pro Bowls ago. The NFL was wrong on Welker. And I believe the league is wrong on Gilbert and Chancellor.

     
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