***2014 PATRIOTS DRAFT THREAD***

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    They need to trade up for Rashede Hageman... He is the best DT in the draft.. Draft any of those tight ends after that..Also trade mallet for another second round pick. Then with the other second you grab a safety/corner I like Dion Bailey kid can play. After that you grab a QB to replace mallet round 3.. In FA or via trade, grab a good vet WR that can catch the ball and mix in with our young guys. I also think we resign Talib. also I think we sign a DT.

     
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    They need to trade up for Rashede Hageman... He is the best DT in the draft.. Draft any of those tight ends after that..Also trade mallet for another second round pick. Then with the other second you grab a safety/corner I like Dion Bailey kid can play. After that you grab a steal of a guard.. In FA or via trade, grab a good vet WR that can catch the ball and mix in with our young guys. I also think we resign Talib. also I think we sign a DT.



    Why do you say that?

     
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    They need to trade up for Rashede Hageman... He is the best DT in the draft.. Draft any of those tight ends after that..Also trade mallet for another second round pick. Then with the other second you grab a safety/corner I like Dion Bailey kid can play. After that you grab a steal of a guard.. In FA or via trade, grab a good vet WR that can catch the ball and mix in with our young guys. I also think we resign Talib. also I think we sign a DT.



    Why do you say that?



    In watching the college games this year he has passed the eye test in my eyes..Of course besides clowney physically, I believe hageman is a physical specimen. I love his motor and tenacity.. His impact would be impeccable. 

     
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    They need to trade up for Rashede Hageman... He is the best DT in the draft.. Draft any of those tight ends after that..Also trade mallet for another second round pick. Then with the other second you grab a safety/corner I like Dion Bailey kid can play. After that you grab a steal of a guard.. In FA or via trade, grab a good vet WR that can catch the ball and mix in with our young guys. I also think we resign Talib. also I think we sign a DT.



    Why do you say that?



    In watching the college games this year he has passed the eye test in my eyes..Of course besides clowney physically, I believe hageman is physical specimen. I love his motor and tenacity.. His impact would be impeccable. 



    Thanks.

     
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    Here is a quick Mock Idea.  In this scenario, Nix falls to #20, and we trade up to grab him in front of GB...

    #20)  DT  Louis Nix III  Notre Dame  (NE gives AZ #29, 3rd, and 6th)

    #40)  TE  Austin Sefarin-Jenkins  UW  (NE gives Minn Ryan Mallett and 7th)

    #62)  DT  Ego Ferguson  LSU

    4th)  C  Marcus Martin   USC

    6th)  OLB  Boseko Lokombo  UO  (via Philly)

    6th)  QB  David Fales  San Jose St.  (Comp.)

    6th)  SS  Ty Zimmerman  KSU  (Comp.)

     

    I love the idea of double-dipping on DTs early.  Inproving that position would really solidify our defense.  I know that getting an early 2nd for Mallett might be a bit of a pipe dream, but it would allow NE to have that extra ammo if they want to move up for a blue-chipper like Nix.  Without that extra 2nd, I probably would not move up at all.  What do you all think?

     

     



    love the thought, esp if we can get Nix. I just can't see Minn trading their 2nd for Mallett and a 7th. I think Malletts value might lie with Minn or Hou but it might be for a 3rd and we might have to toss in the 7th or 6th

     



    Yeah you're probably right, a second round pick for Mallet might be a little bit optimistic, but I'm just guessing.  Honestly I don't even know if he's going to get traded.  I think he probably still has quite a bit of value to New England as a capable backup.  I just wanted to put together a scenario where we could trade up to get Nix, and I think we would need that extra 2rd to do that.  Probably wishful thinking but you never know...

    You guys are really under selling the value of Mallett, the Redskins have let it be known that it will take a 2nd round pick to acquire Cousins! Mallett may not have played a down, but he also hasn't thrown 12 picks in two years! He is learning under TB and I'd rather have a QB who learned from TB than some jag who played because he had to. Mallett's worth is probably more than Cousins, so if Washington wants a 2nd what do you think BB wants? It sure as hell won't be less than what Washington wants.




    Neither have I

    Nor I, but I haven't spent 2 years learning possibly the most complex offense behind arguably the greatest QB in the history of the Patriots franchise, and possibly of the leagues history. As for Cousins those int's were in 10 games! So if I've gotta choose between the two I'll take the guy noone other than the Patriots have seen. Personally I wouldn't trade him. I definately wouldn't trade him to Houston.


     
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    In response to sportsbozo1's comment:

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    In response to PatsEng's comment:

    In response to WazzuWheatfarmer's comment:

    Here is a quick Mock Idea.  In this scenario, Nix falls to #20, and we trade up to grab him in front of GB...

    #20)  DT  Louis Nix III  Notre Dame  (NE gives AZ #29, 3rd, and 6th)

    #40)  TE  Austin Sefarin-Jenkins  UW  (NE gives Minn Ryan Mallett and 7th)

    #62)  DT  Ego Ferguson  LSU

    4th)  C  Marcus Martin   USC

    6th)  OLB  Boseko Lokombo  UO  (via Philly)

    6th)  QB  David Fales  San Jose St.  (Comp.)

    6th)  SS  Ty Zimmerman  KSU  (Comp.)

     

    I love the idea of double-dipping on DTs early.  Inproving that position would really solidify our defense.  I know that getting an early 2nd for Mallett might be a bit of a pipe dream, but it would allow NE to have that extra ammo if they want to move up for a blue-chipper like Nix.  Without that extra 2nd, I probably would not move up at all.  What do you all think?

     

     



    love the thought, esp if we can get Nix. I just can't see Minn trading their 2nd for Mallett and a 7th. I think Malletts value might lie with Minn or Hou but it might be for a 3rd and we might have to toss in the 7th or 6th

     



    Yeah you're probably right, a second round pick for Mallet might be a little bit optimistic, but I'm just guessing.  Honestly I don't even know if he's going to get traded.  I think he probably still has quite a bit of value to New England as a capable backup.  I just wanted to put together a scenario where we could trade up to get Nix, and I think we would need that extra 2rd to do that.  Probably wishful thinking but you never know...

    You guys are really under selling the value of Mallett, the Redskins have let it be known that it will take a 2nd round pick to acquire Cousins! Mallett may not have played a down, but he also hasn't thrown 12 picks in two years! He is learning under TB and I'd rather have a QB who learned from TB than some jag who played because he had to. Mallett's worth is probably more than Cousins, so if Washington wants a 2nd what do you think BB wants? It sure as hell won't be less than what Washington wants.




    Neither have I

    Nor I, but I haven't spent 2 years learning possibly the most complex offense behind arguably the greatest QB in the history of the Patriots franchise, and possibly of the leagues history. As for Cousins those int's were in 10 games! So if I've gotta choose between the two I'll take the guy noone other than the Patriots have seen. Personally I wouldn't trade him. I definately wouldn't trade him to Houston.




    Putting a price of second round, the Pats obviously does not want him traded. At that cost, I think other teams will pass.

     
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    Below is my Big 56 Board... list is fluid and is sure to change as more tape/info becomes available

    BOARD UPDATED 2/16/14:

     

    Rd 1 (6)

    S- Calvin Pryor- Lousiville *Added 1/17/14*

    DT- Stephon Tuitt- ND *Added 2/2/14*

    DT- Aaron Donald- *Added 2/16/14*

    DT- Ra'shede Hageman- Minnesota

    TE- Troy Niklas- ND *Added 1/12/14*

    TE- Jace Amaro- TTU *Added 1/17/14*

     

    Rd 1-2 (3)

    DE/OLB- Marcus Smith *Added 1/5/14*

    WR- Brandin Cooks- *Added 1/1/14*

    OLB- Kyle Van Noy- BYU

     

    Rd 2 (14)

    DT- DaQuan Jones- PSU

    CB/S- Lamarcus Joyner- FSU *Added 12/20/13*

    CB- Bradley Roby- OSU

    DE/OLB- Trent Murphy- Stanford

    CB/S- Kyle Fuller- VT

    DT- Kelcy Quarles- South Carolina

    LB- Telvin Smith- *Added 12/20/13*

    CB- Bashaud Breeland- Clemson *2/15/14*

    CB- EJ Gaines- Missouri

    OG- Xavier Su’a-Filo- UCLA * Added 12/7/13*

    S- Deone Bucannon- WSU

    S- Ed Reynolds- Stanford *Added 2/8/14*

    ILB- Shayne Skov- Stanford

    DE/OLB- Trevor Reilly- *Added 12/29/13*

     

    Rd 2-3 (4)

    C/OG- Weston Richburg- Colorado State

    DT- Ego Ferguson- LSU

    QB- AJ McCarron- Alabama

    ILB- Yawin Smallwood- Uconn

     

     

     

    Rd 3 (10)

    S- Antone Exum- VT

    WR- Jared Abbrederis- Wisconsin

    ILB- Chris Borland- Wisconsin

    OT/OG- Joel Bitonio- Nevada *Added 1/25/14*

    CB- Stanley Jean Baptiste- Nebraska *Added back 2/1/14*

    OG- Anthony Steen- Alabama

    TE- Arthur Lynch- Georgia

    TE- CJ Fiedorowicz- Iowa

    DT- Brent Urban Virginia- *Added 12/30/13*

    LB- Adrian Hubbard- Alabama *Added 12/11/13*

     

    Rd 4-7 (19)

    DE/OLB- Will Clarke- WV- *Added 2/11/14*

    DT- Justin Ellis- LTU- *Added 1/18/14*

    WR- Cody Latimer- IU- *Add 1/30/14*

    OG- Chris Watt- Notre Dame *Added 1/25/14*

    QB- Aaron Murray- Georgia *Added back 2/7/14*

    DE/DT- Ed Stinson- Alabama *Added back 2/16/14*

    C/OG- Bryan Stork- FSU *Added 12/11/13*

    DT- Bruce Gaston- Purdue *Added Back 1/24/14*

    S- Vinnie Sunseri- Alabama *Added 1/22/14*

    QB- Bryn Renner- UNC

    WR- TJ Jones- ND- *Added 1/18/14*

    WR- Michael Campanaro- WF *Added back 2/9/14*

    CB- Dexter McDougle *Added 1/28/14*

    S- Jason Hendricks- Pitt *Added 1/11/14*

    TE- Rob Blanchflower- Umass *Added 1/1/14*

    S- Shamiel Gary- Oklahoma State

    DT- Beau Allen- Wisconsin

    TE/HB/FB- Trey Millard- Oklahoma *Added 1/26/14*

     

    TE/HB- Gator Hoskins- Marshall *1/26/14*

     

    What’s goin on, boys?

     

    Has it been (4) months already?  It feels like just yesterday, we were talking about the pros and cons of the 2013 draft, but now it’s time to get after it for the 2014 class!!!!!!!

     

    To kick things off, below is my 2014 watch list… this isn’t my draft board (that’ll take shape as the season goes on and more info/tape becomes available), but a list of players that could be of interest to BB and Co.

     

    This list will remain fluid and I’ll add/remove players as the season progresses.  I have few character question players (marked with a ?), but I’d have to guess that they’ll be extra careful in taking on any potential red flags (at least early in the draft), with what’s transpired over the summer.

     

    I’ll doing as much film research as I can and will post player reviews once available.  The fun part is identifying a player that should go (IMO) much higher than currently projected/discussed.

     

    Either way, feel free to suggest names that I may have missed… though I should note that I purposely left of a few players that I don’t see NE having a chance at (Bridgewater, Lee, etc.), though to contradict myself, I did include a couple of potential Top 10 DL (Nix/Tuitt, etc.).

     

     

    OFFENSE:

     

    QB:

     

    AJ McCarron- 6-4 210- Alabama

    Tajh Boyd- 6-1 225- Clemson

    Aaron Murray- 6-1 215- Georgia

    David Fales- 6-3 220- SJSU

    Derek Carr- 6-3 212- Fresno State

    *Teddy Bridgewater- 6-3 220- Louisville

    *Marcus Mariota- 6-4 210- Oregon

    *Devin Gardner- 6-4 203- Michigan

    *Braxton Miller- 6-1 210- OSU

    *Bo Wallace- 6-4 214- Ole Miss

     

     

     

    WR:

     

    Josh Huff- 5-11 205- Oregon

    Jared Abbrederis- 6-2 188- Wisconsin

    Alex Amidon- 5-11 186- BC

    TJ Jones- 5-11 190- ND

    Jordan Matthews- 6-3 205- Vanderbilt

    Cody Hoffman- 6-3 215- BYU

    Michael Campanaro- 5-11 190- WF

    Tevin Reese- 5-10 172- Baylor

    TJ Jones- 6-0 195- ND

    Trey Burton- 6-2 228- Florida

    Kevin Norwood- 6-1 195- Alabama

    Kenny Bell- 6-1 180- Alabama

    Dri Archer- 5-7 173- Kent State

    Jalen Saudners- 5-9 170- Oklahoma

    *Brandon Coleman- 6-5 220- Rutgers

    *Mike Evans- 6-5 220- Tex A&M

    *Allen Robinson- 6-3 204- PSU

    *Donte Moncreif- 6-2 215- Ole Miss

    *Sammy Watkins- 6-1 205- Clemson

    *Paul Richardson- 6-1 176- Colorado

    *Devante Parker- 6-2 205- Louisville

     

    RB:

     

    Alfred Blue- 6-1 220- LSU

    Tyler Gaffney- 6-1 215- Stanford

    Anthony Wilkerson- 6-0 218- Stanford

    ? Carlos Hyde- 6-0 240- OSU

    *De’Athony Thomas- 5-9 178

     

    TE:

     

    CJ Fiederowicz 6-6 265 Iowa

    Arthur Lynch 6-5 258- Georgia

    Ted Bolser- 6-5 250- Indiana

    Kaneakua Friel- 6-5 250- BYU

    Rob Blanchflower- 6-4 254- UMass

    Gabe Holmes- 6-4 258- Purdue

    Crockett Gilmore- 6-6 255- Colorado St

    Marcel Jensen- 6-5 258- Fresno St

    *? Colt Lyerla- 6-5 245- Oregon (made comments around Sandy Hook being a Gov’t Conspiracy)

    * Eric Ebron- 6-4 245- UNC

    *? Austin Seferian-Jenkins 6-6 266- Washington

     

     

    OL:

     

    OT- Ryan Groy- 6-5 318- Wisconsin

    OT- Jack Mewhort- 6-6 308- OSU

    OT- James Hurst- 605 305- UNC

    OG- Zach Martin- 6-3 305- ND

    OG- Gabe Jackson- 6-3 335- Miss St

    OG- Anthony Steen- 6-2 310- Alabama

    OC- Travis Swanton0 6-4 314- Arkansas

     

     

     

    Defense:

     

    DT:

     

    Daniel McCullers- 6-6 377- Tenn

    DeAndre Coleman- 6-5 309- Cal

    Ra’Shede Hageman- 6-5 302- Minn

    Bruce Gaston- 6-2 305- Purdue

    DaQuan Jones- 6-3 333- Penn State

    *Louis Nix III- 6-3 347- ND

    *Anthony Johnson- 6-3 305- LSU

    *Ego Ferguson- 6-3 308- LSU

    *Danny Shelton- 6-1 317- Washington

    *Brandon Ivory- 6-3 310- Alabama

     

    DE:

     

    Trent Murphy- 6-6 261- Standford

    Jackson Jeffcoat- 6-5 245- Texas

    James Gayle- 6-4 268- VT

    Kareem Martin- 6-5 260- UNC

    Will Sutton- 6-0 268- ASU

    Ben Gardner- 6-4 265- Stanford

    Ed Stinson- 6-4 2820 Alabama

    Cassius Marsh- 6-3 276- UCLA

    Walker May- 6-5 250- Vanderbilt

    Taylor Hart- 6-5 292- Oregon

    Trevor Reilly- 6-5 255- Utah

    *Stephon Tuitt- 6-6 315- ND

    *Jeoffrey Pagan- 6-4 290- Alabama

    *Scott Crichton- 6-3 263- Oregon State

    *Henry Anderson- 6-6 278- Standford

     

     

    ILB:

     

    Max Bullough- 6-2 252- Michigan State

    Lamin Barrow- 6-2 232- LSU

    Andrew Jackson- 6-1 265- Western Kentucky

    Greg Blair- 6-1 252- Cincy

    Shayne Skov- 6-3 242- Stanford

    Glenn Carson- 6-3 235- PSU

    Preston Brown- 6-2 255- Louisville

    Dan Fox- 6-3 245- ND

    Steele Divitto- 6-3 240- BC

    Mike Marry- 6-2 248- Ole Miss

    Chris Borland- 5-11 245- Wisconsin

    Spencer Shuey- 6-2 250- Clemson

    *Trey DePriest- 6-2 245- Alabama

    *A.J. Johnson- 6-2 240- Tenn

    *AJ Tarpley- 6-2 240- Stanford

    *Yawin Smallwood- 6-2 244- UConn

     

    OLB:

    Kyle Van Noy- 6-3 235- BYU

    CJ Mosely- 6-2 232- Alabama

    Anthony Barr- 6-4 248- UCLA

    Christian Jones- 6-3 232- FSU

    Prince Shembo- 6-2 258- ND

    *Adrian Hubbard- 6-5 260- Alabama

    *Ryan Shazier- 6-2 226- OSU

    *Ishaq Williams- 6-5 255 ND

    *Ronald Powell 6-3 235- Florida

     

    CB:

     

    Bennett Jackson- 6-0 185- ND

    Jaylen Watkins- 6-0 182- Florida

    Justin Gilbert- 6-0 195- Oklahoma State

    Jason Verrett- 6-0 182- TCU

    Aaron Colvin- 6-0 182- Oklahoma

    Deion Belue- 5-11 182- Alabama

    Ricardo Allen- 5-9 186- Purdue

    Antone Exum- 6-0 224- VT

    John Fulton- 6-0 187- Alabama

    EJ Gaines- 5-10 190- Mizzou

    *? Bradley Roby- 5-11 190- OSU

    *Ifo Ekpre-Olomu- 5-10 190- Oregon

    *Louchiez Purifoy- 6-0 190- Florida

    *Wayne Lyons- 6-1 187- Stanford

    *Marcus Roberson- 6-0 195- Florida

    *Tim Scott 5-11 190- UNC

     

    S:

     

    CJ Barnett- 6-0 202- OSU

    Craig Loston- 6-2 205- LSU

    Brian Blechen- 6-2 218- Utah

    Tre Boston- 6-1 190- UNC

    *Vinnie Sunseri 6-0 215- Alabama

    *Ed Reynolds- 6-2 215- Stanford

    *Ronald Martin- 61 202- LSU

    *Jordan Richards- 5-11 208- Stanford

    *Nickoe Whitley- 6-1 205- Miss State

    *Hasean “Ha Ha” Clinton-Dix- 6-1 209- Alabama

     

     

     

     

    *Denotes Underclassmen

    ? Denotes Character Questions

     




    9 Golden Domers invited to the combine! Hope and wish they all get a shot at the NFL Dream

     
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    In response to 42AND46's comment:

    In response to mbeaulieu07's comment:

    Below is my Big 56 Board... list is fluid and is sure to change as more tape/info becomes available

    BOARD UPDATED 2/16/14:

     

    Rd 1 (6)

    S- Calvin Pryor- Lousiville *Added 1/17/14*

    DT- Stephon Tuitt- ND *Added 2/2/14*

    DT- Aaron Donald- *Added 2/16/14*

    DT- Ra'shede Hageman- Minnesota

    TE- Troy Niklas- ND *Added 1/12/14*

    TE- Jace Amaro- TTU *Added 1/17/14*

     

    Rd 1-2 (3)

    DE/OLB- Marcus Smith *Added 1/5/14*

    WR- Brandin Cooks- *Added 1/1/14*

    OLB- Kyle Van Noy- BYU

     

    Rd 2 (14)

    DT- DaQuan Jones- PSU

    CB/S- Lamarcus Joyner- FSU *Added 12/20/13*

    CB- Bradley Roby- OSU

    DE/OLB- Trent Murphy- Stanford

    CB/S- Kyle Fuller- VT

    DT- Kelcy Quarles- South Carolina

    LB- Telvin Smith- *Added 12/20/13*

    CB- Bashaud Breeland- Clemson *2/15/14*

    CB- EJ Gaines- Missouri

    OG- Xavier Su’a-Filo- UCLA * Added 12/7/13*

    S- Deone Bucannon- WSU

    S- Ed Reynolds- Stanford *Added 2/8/14*

    ILB- Shayne Skov- Stanford

    DE/OLB- Trevor Reilly- *Added 12/29/13*

     

    Rd 2-3 (4)

    C/OG- Weston Richburg- Colorado State

    DT- Ego Ferguson- LSU

    QB- AJ McCarron- Alabama

    ILB- Yawin Smallwood- Uconn

     

     

     

    Rd 3 (10)

    S- Antone Exum- VT

    WR- Jared Abbrederis- Wisconsin

    ILB- Chris Borland- Wisconsin

    OT/OG- Joel Bitonio- Nevada *Added 1/25/14*

    CB- Stanley Jean Baptiste- Nebraska *Added back 2/1/14*

    OG- Anthony Steen- Alabama

    TE- Arthur Lynch- Georgia

    TE- CJ Fiedorowicz- Iowa

    DT- Brent Urban Virginia- *Added 12/30/13*

    LB- Adrian Hubbard- Alabama *Added 12/11/13*

     

    Rd 4-7 (19)

    DE/OLB- Will Clarke- WV- *Added 2/11/14*

    DT- Justin Ellis- LTU- *Added 1/18/14*

    WR- Cody Latimer- IU- *Add 1/30/14*

    OG- Chris Watt- Notre Dame *Added 1/25/14*

    QB- Aaron Murray- Georgia *Added back 2/7/14*

    DE/DT- Ed Stinson- Alabama *Added back 2/16/14*

    C/OG- Bryan Stork- FSU *Added 12/11/13*

    DT- Bruce Gaston- Purdue *Added Back 1/24/14*

    S- Vinnie Sunseri- Alabama *Added 1/22/14*

    QB- Bryn Renner- UNC

    WR- TJ Jones- ND- *Added 1/18/14*

    WR- Michael Campanaro- WF *Added back 2/9/14*

    CB- Dexter McDougle *Added 1/28/14*

    S- Jason Hendricks- Pitt *Added 1/11/14*

    TE- Rob Blanchflower- Umass *Added 1/1/14*

    S- Shamiel Gary- Oklahoma State

    DT- Beau Allen- Wisconsin

    TE/HB/FB- Trey Millard- Oklahoma *Added 1/26/14*

     

    TE/HB- Gator Hoskins- Marshall *1/26/14*

     

    What’s goin on, boys?

     

    Has it been (4) months already?  It feels like just yesterday, we were talking about the pros and cons of the 2013 draft, but now it’s time to get after it for the 2014 class!!!!!!!

     

    To kick things off, below is my 2014 watch list… this isn’t my draft board (that’ll take shape as the season goes on and more info/tape becomes available), but a list of players that could be of interest to BB and Co.

     

    This list will remain fluid and I’ll add/remove players as the season progresses.  I have few character question players (marked with a ?), but I’d have to guess that they’ll be extra careful in taking on any potential red flags (at least early in the draft), with what’s transpired over the summer.

     

    I’ll doing as much film research as I can and will post player reviews once available.  The fun part is identifying a player that should go (IMO) much higher than currently projected/discussed.

     

    Either way, feel free to suggest names that I may have missed… though I should note that I purposely left of a few players that I don’t see NE having a chance at (Bridgewater, Lee, etc.), though to contradict myself, I did include a couple of potential Top 10 DL (Nix/Tuitt, etc.).

     

     

    OFFENSE:

     

    QB:

     

    AJ McCarron- 6-4 210- Alabama

    Tajh Boyd- 6-1 225- Clemson

    Aaron Murray- 6-1 215- Georgia

    David Fales- 6-3 220- SJSU

    Derek Carr- 6-3 212- Fresno State

    *Teddy Bridgewater- 6-3 220- Louisville

    *Marcus Mariota- 6-4 210- Oregon

    *Devin Gardner- 6-4 203- Michigan

    *Braxton Miller- 6-1 210- OSU

    *Bo Wallace- 6-4 214- Ole Miss

     

     

     

    WR:

     

    Josh Huff- 5-11 205- Oregon

    Jared Abbrederis- 6-2 188- Wisconsin

    Alex Amidon- 5-11 186- BC

    TJ Jones- 5-11 190- ND

    Jordan Matthews- 6-3 205- Vanderbilt

    Cody Hoffman- 6-3 215- BYU

    Michael Campanaro- 5-11 190- WF

    Tevin Reese- 5-10 172- Baylor

    TJ Jones- 6-0 195- ND

    Trey Burton- 6-2 228- Florida

    Kevin Norwood- 6-1 195- Alabama

    Kenny Bell- 6-1 180- Alabama

    Dri Archer- 5-7 173- Kent State

    Jalen Saudners- 5-9 170- Oklahoma

    *Brandon Coleman- 6-5 220- Rutgers

    *Mike Evans- 6-5 220- Tex A&M

    *Allen Robinson- 6-3 204- PSU

    *Donte Moncreif- 6-2 215- Ole Miss

    *Sammy Watkins- 6-1 205- Clemson

    *Paul Richardson- 6-1 176- Colorado

    *Devante Parker- 6-2 205- Louisville

     

    RB:

     

    Alfred Blue- 6-1 220- LSU

    Tyler Gaffney- 6-1 215- Stanford

    Anthony Wilkerson- 6-0 218- Stanford

    ? Carlos Hyde- 6-0 240- OSU

    *De’Athony Thomas- 5-9 178

     

    TE:

     

    CJ Fiederowicz 6-6 265 Iowa

    Arthur Lynch 6-5 258- Georgia

    Ted Bolser- 6-5 250- Indiana

    Kaneakua Friel- 6-5 250- BYU

    Rob Blanchflower- 6-4 254- UMass

    Gabe Holmes- 6-4 258- Purdue

    Crockett Gilmore- 6-6 255- Colorado St

    Marcel Jensen- 6-5 258- Fresno St

    *? Colt Lyerla- 6-5 245- Oregon (made comments around Sandy Hook being a Gov’t Conspiracy)

    * Eric Ebron- 6-4 245- UNC

    *? Austin Seferian-Jenkins 6-6 266- Washington

     

     

    OL:

     

    OT- Ryan Groy- 6-5 318- Wisconsin

    OT- Jack Mewhort- 6-6 308- OSU

    OT- James Hurst- 605 305- UNC

    OG- Zach Martin- 6-3 305- ND

    OG- Gabe Jackson- 6-3 335- Miss St

    OG- Anthony Steen- 6-2 310- Alabama

    OC- Travis Swanton0 6-4 314- Arkansas

     

     

     

    Defense:

     

    DT:

     

    Daniel McCullers- 6-6 377- Tenn

    DeAndre Coleman- 6-5 309- Cal

    Ra’Shede Hageman- 6-5 302- Minn

    Bruce Gaston- 6-2 305- Purdue

    DaQuan Jones- 6-3 333- Penn State

    *Louis Nix III- 6-3 347- ND

    *Anthony Johnson- 6-3 305- LSU

    *Ego Ferguson- 6-3 308- LSU

    *Danny Shelton- 6-1 317- Washington

    *Brandon Ivory- 6-3 310- Alabama

     

    DE:

     

    Trent Murphy- 6-6 261- Standford

    Jackson Jeffcoat- 6-5 245- Texas

    James Gayle- 6-4 268- VT

    Kareem Martin- 6-5 260- UNC

    Will Sutton- 6-0 268- ASU

    Ben Gardner- 6-4 265- Stanford

    Ed Stinson- 6-4 2820 Alabama

    Cassius Marsh- 6-3 276- UCLA

    Walker May- 6-5 250- Vanderbilt

    Taylor Hart- 6-5 292- Oregon

    Trevor Reilly- 6-5 255- Utah

    *Stephon Tuitt- 6-6 315- ND

    *Jeoffrey Pagan- 6-4 290- Alabama

    *Scott Crichton- 6-3 263- Oregon State

    *Henry Anderson- 6-6 278- Standford

     

     

    ILB:

     

    Max Bullough- 6-2 252- Michigan State

    Lamin Barrow- 6-2 232- LSU

    Andrew Jackson- 6-1 265- Western Kentucky

    Greg Blair- 6-1 252- Cincy

    Shayne Skov- 6-3 242- Stanford

    Glenn Carson- 6-3 235- PSU

    Preston Brown- 6-2 255- Louisville

    Dan Fox- 6-3 245- ND

    Steele Divitto- 6-3 240- BC

    Mike Marry- 6-2 248- Ole Miss

    Chris Borland- 5-11 245- Wisconsin

    Spencer Shuey- 6-2 250- Clemson

    *Trey DePriest- 6-2 245- Alabama

    *A.J. Johnson- 6-2 240- Tenn

    *AJ Tarpley- 6-2 240- Stanford

    *Yawin Smallwood- 6-2 244- UConn

     

    OLB:

    Kyle Van Noy- 6-3 235- BYU

    CJ Mosely- 6-2 232- Alabama

    Anthony Barr- 6-4 248- UCLA

    Christian Jones- 6-3 232- FSU

    Prince Shembo- 6-2 258- ND

    *Adrian Hubbard- 6-5 260- Alabama

    *Ryan Shazier- 6-2 226- OSU

    *Ishaq Williams- 6-5 255 ND

    *Ronald Powell 6-3 235- Florida

     

    CB:

     

    Bennett Jackson- 6-0 185- ND

    Jaylen Watkins- 6-0 182- Florida

    Justin Gilbert- 6-0 195- Oklahoma State

    Jason Verrett- 6-0 182- TCU

    Aaron Colvin- 6-0 182- Oklahoma

    Deion Belue- 5-11 182- Alabama

    Ricardo Allen- 5-9 186- Purdue

    Antone Exum- 6-0 224- VT

    John Fulton- 6-0 187- Alabama

    EJ Gaines- 5-10 190- Mizzou

    *? Bradley Roby- 5-11 190- OSU

    *Ifo Ekpre-Olomu- 5-10 190- Oregon

    *Louchiez Purifoy- 6-0 190- Florida

    *Wayne Lyons- 6-1 187- Stanford

    *Marcus Roberson- 6-0 195- Florida

    *Tim Scott 5-11 190- UNC

     

    S:

     

    CJ Barnett- 6-0 202- OSU

    Craig Loston- 6-2 205- LSU

    Brian Blechen- 6-2 218- Utah

    Tre Boston- 6-1 190- UNC

    *Vinnie Sunseri 6-0 215- Alabama

    *Ed Reynolds- 6-2 215- Stanford

    *Ronald Martin- 61 202- LSU

    *Jordan Richards- 5-11 208- Stanford

    *Nickoe Whitley- 6-1 205- Miss State

    *Hasean “Ha Ha” Clinton-Dix- 6-1 209- Alabama

     

     

     

     

    *Denotes Underclassmen

    ? Denotes Character Questions

     




    9 Golden Domers invited to the combine! Hope and wish they all get a shot at the NFL Dream



    Your missing what every single so called draft expert thinks the patriots will take ( I don't ) TE Jace Amero - Texas Tech.

     
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    They need to trade up for Rashede Hageman... He is the best DT in the draft.. Draft any of those tight ends after that..Also trade mallet for another second round pick. Then with the other second you grab a safety/corner I like Dion Bailey kid can play. After that you grab a QB to replace mallet round 3.. In FA or via trade, grab a good vet WR that can catch the ball and mix in with our young guys. I also think we resign Talib. also I think we sign a DT.



    Don't think they will need to trade up. He should be a back of the 1st early 2nd pick. Tons of talent but wildly inconsistent. If it clicks he could have Watt type of upside but if it never does he could just be a Raji, showing flashes but never really tossing it together.

    Hageman is one of my favorite players in the draft for his upside and where he can be taken but I wouldn't put him ahead of Nix and even though Donald is a weird tweener size wise he is just an impressive football player. If I had to rank my top 5 I might say

    1. Nix
    2. Hageman
    3. Donald
    4. Ferguson
    5. Jones

     

     
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    Here is a quick Mock Idea.  In this scenario, Nix falls to #20, and we trade up to grab him in front of GB...

    #20)  DT  Louis Nix III  Notre Dame  (NE gives AZ #29, 3rd, and 6th)

    #40)  TE  Austin Sefarin-Jenkins  UW  (NE gives Minn Ryan Mallett and 7th)

    #62)  DT  Ego Ferguson  LSU

    4th)  C  Marcus Martin   USC

    6th)  OLB  Boseko Lokombo  UO  (via Philly)

    6th)  QB  David Fales  San Jose St.  (Comp.)

    6th)  SS  Ty Zimmerman  KSU  (Comp.)

     

    I love the idea of double-dipping on DTs early.  Inproving that position would really solidify our defense.  I know that getting an early 2nd for Mallett might be a bit of a pipe dream, but it would allow NE to have that extra ammo if they want to move up for a blue-chipper like Nix.  Without that extra 2nd, I probably would not move up at all.  What do you all think?

     

     



    love the thought, esp if we can get Nix. I just can't see Minn trading their 2nd for Mallett and a 7th. I think Malletts value might lie with Minn or Hou but it might be for a 3rd and we might have to toss in the 7th or 6th

     



    Yeah you're probably right, a second round pick for Mallet might be a little bit optimistic, but I'm just guessing.  Honestly I don't even know if he's going to get traded.  I think he probably still has quite a bit of value to New England as a capable backup.  I just wanted to put together a scenario where we could trade up to get Nix, and I think we would need that extra 2rd to do that.  Probably wishful thinking but you never know...

    You guys are really under selling the value of Mallett, the Redskins have let it be known that it will take a 2nd round pick to acquire Cousins! Mallett may not have played a down, but he also hasn't thrown 12 picks in two years! He is learning under TB and I'd rather have a QB who learned from TB than some jag who played because he had to. Mallett's worth is probably more than Cousins, so if Washington wants a 2nd what do you think BB wants? It sure as hell won't be less than what Washington wants.




    Neither have I

    Nor I, but I haven't spent 2 years learning possibly the most complex offense behind arguably the greatest QB in the history of the Patriots franchise, and possibly of the leagues history. As for Cousins those int's were in 10 games! So if I've gotta choose between the two I'll take the guy noone other than the Patriots have seen. Personally I wouldn't trade him. I definately wouldn't trade him to Houston.




    Make list of all the QB's in the draft to be gone by end of round 2 and compare to Mallett or Cousins..  Are they better or worse than what is coming into the Nfl. If better, what's wrong trading the pick for one of those and drafting a "need " player in round one?

     
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    Anyone remember Belichick talking about a group players like this?

     

    Belichick 'Volunteers' his insight February, 21, 2014 FEB 21 9:00 AM ET By Mike Reiss | ESPNBoston.com With the primary goal of the NFL combine to learn more about the prospects in the draft, let's use Bill Belichick's comments from Thursday to do just that. 

    "It was interesting to see, really, almost the entire Tennessee offensive line there," he said. "That was pretty unusual to see that many guys from one school in that group." 

    It's a group that Alabama coach Nick Saban, a Belichick confidant,  felt was probably the best his team faced in 2013

    Tennessee has had a nice little run along the offensive line, as guard  Dallas Thomas was a prospect who had interested the Patriots last year. Had Thomas not been selected by the Miami Dolphins in the third round (77th overall), he very well could have landed in New England, which had the 83rd and 91st picks in that round. 

    Once again, the Patriots will consider dipping into the Volunteers pool of o-line talent, and here's a bit more on each Volunteers offensive lineman in the draft: 

    LT Antonio "Tiny" Richardson -- Listed at 6-foot-6 and 330 pounds, he is part of the reason why the overall tackle class is considered so deep. Entering the draft after his junior season, he projects as a second-round pick. 

    LG Alex Bullard -- As noted by Belichick, Bullard (6-3, 310) was not invited to the combine but easily could have been. He transferred to Tennessee from Notre Dame in 2011. 

    James Stone -- At 6-foot-3 and 307 pounds, Stone is considered an intelligent player who has "protoypical height with below average bulk." He snaps with his left hand, which is a bit different from the norm, and is rated the No. 5 center by ESPN's Scouts Inc. 

    RG Zach Fulton -- A bigger prospect at 6-foot-4 and 324 pounds, he was a team leader at Tennessee. ESPN's Scouts Inc. rates him 14th at the position. 

    RT Ja’Wuan James -- At 6-foot-6 and 315 pounds, he started every game of his four-year college career. He enters the draft after his senior season and projects as a second-round pick.
     
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    Here are a safety and DT from the Regional Combines, need to take a closer look. (year) means he was eligible in that year to be drafted.   UDFAs probably.

    S Devon Simmons, Old Dominion (2013)

    Height/weight: 6-1, 199
    Vertical: 42 inches
    Broad jump: 10 feet, 10 inches
    40-yard dash: 4.6 seconds

    Simmons had one of the best tryouts of the day on the defensive side. While I expected Simmons to run faster than 4.6, his explosive traits were on full display with an outstanding vertical leap and broad jump. Equally impressive was Simmons' ability to transition and change direction around the field while also tracking deep balls and finishing with catches.

     

    DT Jamarkus McFarland, Oklahoma (2013)

    Height/weight: 6-1 1/2, 306
    40-yard dash: 5.29 seconds

    McFarland was a heralded recruit coming out of high school and signed with Oklahoma in 2009, but he failed to live up to the hype and landed in San Diego with the Chargersas an undrafted free agent before being cut. McFarland didn't look like he was in great football shape, and he clearly needs weight work. However, he was easily the best-looking defensive linemen in the group when it came to the drill work.

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000324896/article/regional-combine-several-pro-prospects-worthy-of-attention?campaign=Twitter_nfl_cb

     
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    They need to trade up for Rashede Hageman... He is the best DT in the draft.. Draft any of those tight ends after that..Also trade mallet for another second round pick. Then with the other second you grab a safety/corner I like Dion Bailey kid can play. After that you grab a QB to replace mallet round 3.. In FA or via trade, grab a good vet WR that can catch the ball and mix in with our young guys. I also think we resign Talib. also I think we sign a DT.



    I think Hageman has the most upside of any DT in this draft, or maybe any player in this draft for that matter, but I don't think he's the best DT in this draft... I'd give that to Irish Chocolate III or even Aaron Donald.  With that said, I've been on board with taking him in Rd 1, despite his maddening inconsistency.

     
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    Anyone remember Belichick talking about a group players like this?

     

    Belichick 'Volunteers' his insight February, 21, 2014 FEB 21 9:00 AM ET By Mike Reiss | ESPNBoston.com

    With the primary goal of the NFL combine to learn more about the prospects in the draft, let's use Bill Belichick's comments from Thursday to do just that. 

    "It was interesting to see, really, almost the entire Tennessee offensive line there," he said. "That was pretty unusual to see that many guys from one school in that group." 

    It's a group that Alabama coach Nick Saban, a Belichick confidant,  felt was probably the best his team faced in 2013

    Tennessee has had a nice little run along the offensive line, as guard  Dallas Thomas was a prospect who had interested the Patriots last year. Had Thomas not been selected by the Miami Dolphins in the third round (77th overall), he very well could have landed in New England, which had the 83rd and 91st picks in that round. 

    Once again, the Patriots will consider dipping into the Volunteers pool of o-line talent, and here's a bit more on each Volunteers offensive lineman in the draft: 

    LT Antonio "Tiny" Richardson -- Listed at 6-foot-6 and 330 pounds, he is part of the reason why the overall tackle class is considered so deep. Entering the draft after his junior season, he projects as a second-round pick. 

    LG Alex Bullard -- As noted by Belichick, Bullard (6-3, 310) was not invited to the combine but easily could have been. He transferred to Tennessee from Notre Dame in 2011. 

    James Stone -- At 6-foot-3 and 307 pounds, Stone is considered an intelligent player who has "protoypical height with below average bulk." He snaps with his left hand, which is a bit different from the norm, and is rated the No. 5 center by ESPN's Scouts Inc. 

    RG Zach Fulton -- A bigger prospect at 6-foot-4 and 324 pounds, he was a team leader at Tennessee. ESPN's Scouts Inc. rates him 14th at the position. 

    RT Ja’Wuan James -- At 6-foot-6 and 315 pounds, he started every game of his four-year college career. He enters the draft after his senior season and projects as a second-round pick.



    Yeah, we generally hear very little, so even small snippets seem like a lot of info from him, haha.

     
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    jjd - I remember him complementing Alabama's front 7 like that a couple years ago, and then he drafted Hightower. He also said something like that about Florida's front 4 prior to drafting Cunningham. So, it might be a good chance he takes one of these kids. My guess would be Fulton with one of the comp picks

     
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    jjd - I remember him complementing Alabama's front 7 like that a couple years ago, and then he drafted Hightower. He also said something like that about Florida's front 4 prior to drafting Cunningham. So, it might be a good chance he takes one of these kids. My guess would be Fulton with one of the comp picks



    Good stuff Eng. Yah, I had my eye Fulton also.  Bullard intrigues me also.  Need to look at him.

     
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    So it looks as if BB/NC/ML should be able to steal a WR on Day 3, due to the depth in this class.  Give me the (5) WR's that you'd most like to see them target in that range?

    For me, I think the below (5) will be on their radar:

    1.  Jared Abbrederis / Wisconsin-  Smart, savvy, tough and productive.  He has the skill set and route running to contribute early.

    2.  Cody Latimer / Indiana-  Very good size, solid speed, good hands and body control.  He at the very least provides a solid RZ target, but I think he's one of the more underrated WR's in this class and is a kid that will contribute outside the hashes as well, making plays down the field, moving the chains.

    3.  Michael Campanaro / WF- BB likes small, sudden slot type WR's and this kid provides exactly that skill set.  Has a solid build (5-10 190)... he's explosive off the line, shows excellent quicks and COD and would be a very good fit for what they like to do offensively.

    4.  TJ Jones / ND-  Very much in the mold of Jared Abbrederis, a smart, savvy, reliable WR that just gets open and catches the football.  He's another kid with solid field awareness and body control that catchs the football cleanly and consistently.

    5.  Bruce Ellington / South Carolina- A poor man's Randall Cobb that's more developed in the lower half (RB legs)... enough said.

    Best of the rest:  I'd have plenty of interest in Donte Moncrief (Ole Miss), Brandon Coleman (Rutgers), Philly Brown (Ohio State), Jeff Janis (Saginaw Valley) and Kevin Norwood (Alabama) in this range as well.

     
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    So it looks as if BB/NC/ML should be able to steal a WR on Day 3, due to the depth in this class?  Give me the (5) WR's that you'd most like to see them target in that range?

    For me, I think the below (5) will be on their radar:

    1.  Jared Abbrederis / Wisconsin-  Smart, savvy, tough and productive.  He has the skill set and route running to contribute early.

    2.  Cody Latimer / Indiana-  Very good size, solid speed, good hands and body control.  He at the very least provides a solid RZ target, but I think he's one of the more underrated WR's in this class and is a kid that will contribute outside the hashes as well, making plays down the field, moving the chains.

    3.  Michael Campanaro / WF- BB likes small, sudden slot type WR's and this kid provides exactly that skill set.  Has a solid build (5-10 190)... he's explosive off the line, shows excellent quicks and COD and would be a very good fit for what they like to do offensively.

    4.  TJ Jones / ND-  Very much in the mold of Jared Abbrederis, a smart, savvy, reliable WR that just gets open and catches the football.  He's another kid with solid field awareness and body control that catchs the football cleanly and consistently.

    5.  Bruce Ellington / South Carolina- A poor man's Randall Cobb that's more developed in the lower half (RB legs)... enough said.

    Best of the rest:  I'd have plenty of interest in Donte Moncrief (Ole Miss), Brandon Coleman (Rutgers), Philly Brown (Ohio State) and Kevin Norwood (Alabama) in this range as well.



    Cody Latimer - Great size and ability but still a bit raw at times. Needs some work but has tremendous upside

    Cody Hoffman - My #1 WR choice in day 3. Has early 2nd late 1st talent if not for hamstring injury.. Amazing hands and a good route runner with the size you drool about for the RZ. I'd love to see him on the team with Brady.

    Alex Neutz - another big WR who comes from a smaller school but had great games against Ohio and Baylor. He's my 2nd favorite WR on day 3.

    Will Snead - quick elusive WR who produced well in two years. If he stayed a year in school might have made it into day 2 next year. He won't blow you away in any catagory but is a pretty good all around package.

    T.J. Jones - MB knows about the kid. Quick shifty slot guy with some explosion in CoD to get open when he sees a soft spot.

     
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    IMO if they are going to pick up WRs, they should be targeting taller, more physical ones (6-2 or taller), for three reasons:

    1)  Not every year will you find a lot of WRs with a good combination of skill and size, even in the later rounds. There will be a lot of smaller equivalents in other years. This may be one year you get one in the later rounds.

    2)  In the playoffs, you'd rather have WRs who are harder to jam at the LOS or harder to manhandle downfield. You actually want WRs who will manhandle CBs.

    3)  If the time has not come yet, there will soon come that time when TB will need his WRS to bail him out a lot -- even if that means TB throwing in tight windows and relying on his WRs "out-physical" their defensive counterparts.

     

     

     
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    In response to PatsEng's comment:

    In response to mbeaulieu07's comment:

    So it looks as if BB/NC/ML should be able to steal a WR on Day 3, due to the depth in this class?  Give me the (5) WR's that you'd most like to see them target in that range?

    For me, I think the below (5) will be on their radar:

    1.  Jared Abbrederis / Wisconsin-  Smart, savvy, tough and productive.  He has the skill set and route running to contribute early.

    2.  Cody Latimer / Indiana-  Very good size, solid speed, good hands and body control.  He at the very least provides a solid RZ target, but I think he's one of the more underrated WR's in this class and is a kid that will contribute outside the hashes as well, making plays down the field, moving the chains.

    3.  Michael Campanaro / WF- BB likes small, sudden slot type WR's and this kid provides exactly that skill set.  Has a solid build (5-10 190)... he's explosive off the line, shows excellent quicks and COD and would be a very good fit for what they like to do offensively.

    4.  TJ Jones / ND-  Very much in the mold of Jared Abbrederis, a smart, savvy, reliable WR that just gets open and catches the football.  He's another kid with solid field awareness and body control that catchs the football cleanly and consistently.

    5.  Bruce Ellington / South Carolina- A poor man's Randall Cobb that's more developed in the lower half (RB legs)... enough said.

    Best of the rest:  I'd have plenty of interest in Donte Moncrief (Ole Miss), Brandon Coleman (Rutgers), Philly Brown (Ohio State) and Kevin Norwood (Alabama) in this range as well.



    Cody Latimer - Great size and ability but still a bit raw at times. Needs some work but has tremendous upside

    Cody Hoffman - My #1 WR choice in day 3. Has early 2nd late 1st talent if not for hamstring injury.. Amazing hands and a good route runner with the size you drool about for the RZ. I'd love to see him on the team with Brady.

    Alex Neutz - another big WR who comes from a smaller school but had great games against Ohio and Baylor. He's my 2nd favorite WR on day 3.

    Will Snead - quick elusive WR who produced well in two years. If he stayed a year in school might have made it into day 2 next year. He won't blow you away in any catagory but is a pretty good all around package.

    T.J. Jones - MB knows about the kid. Quick shifty slot guy with some explosion in CoD to get open when he sees a soft spot.



    If I had to pick my top three, I would go with Latimer, Hoffman, and Ellington.  Latimer and Hoffman or more your prototypical outside the numbers wide receivers, and I think both are underrated.  Ellington is just an outstanding athlete, and I think we could really find a good roll for him in our offense.  He catches the ball very well too, despite his size.  You guys are right though, there will be plenty of options at wide receiver on day three of the draft.

     
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    I think Norwood is the most underrated of the names mentioned

     
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    Here is a quick Mock Idea.  In this scenario, Nix falls to #20, and we trade up to grab him in front of GB...

    #20)  DT  Louis Nix III  Notre Dame  (NE gives AZ #29, 3rd, and 6th)

    #40)  TE  Austin Sefarin-Jenkins  UW  (NE gives Minn Ryan Mallett and 7th)

    #62)  DT  Ego Ferguson  LSU

    4th)  C  Marcus Martin   USC

    6th)  OLB  Boseko Lokombo  UO  (via Philly)

    6th)  QB  David Fales  San Jose St.  (Comp.)

    6th)  SS  Ty Zimmerman  KSU  (Comp.)

     

    I love the idea of double-dipping on DTs early.  Inproving that position would really solidify our defense.  I know that getting an early 2nd for Mallett might be a bit of a pipe dream, but it would allow NE to have that extra ammo if they want to move up for a blue-chipper like Nix.  Without that extra 2nd, I probably would not move up at all.  What do you all think?

     

     



    love the thought, esp if we can get Nix. I just can't see Minn trading their 2nd for Mallett and a 7th. I think Malletts value might lie with Minn or Hou but it might be for a 3rd and we might have to toss in the 7th or 6th

     



    Yeah you're probably right, a second round pick for Mallet might be a little bit optimistic, but I'm just guessing.  Honestly I don't even know if he's going to get traded.  I think he probably still has quite a bit of value to New England as a capable backup.  I just wanted to put together a scenario where we could trade up to get Nix, and I think we would need that extra 2rd to do that.  Probably wishful thinking but you never know...

    You guys are really under selling the value of Mallett, the Redskins have let it be known that it will take a 2nd round pick to acquire Cousins! Mallett may not have played a down, but he also hasn't thrown 12 picks in two years! He is learning under TB and I'd rather have a QB who learned from TB than some jag who played because he had to. Mallett's worth is probably more than Cousins, so if Washington wants a 2nd what do you think BB wants? It sure as hell won't be less than what Washington wants.




    Neither have I

    Nor I, but I haven't spent 2 years learning possibly the most complex offense behind arguably the greatest QB in the history of the Patriots franchise, and possibly of the leagues history. As for Cousins those int's were in 10 games! So if I've gotta choose between the two I'll take the guy noone other than the Patriots have seen. Personally I wouldn't trade him. I definately wouldn't trade him to Houston.




    Make list of all the QB's in the draft to be gone by end of round 2 and compare to Mallett or Cousins..  Are they better or worse than what is coming into the Nfl. If better, what's wrong trading the pick for one of those and drafting a "need " player in round one?

    The one thing that Mallett and Cousins have that none of the college kids have is experience in the NFL. So I would say that none of the potential draft picks would be better than either of the two guys already in the NFL. So trading for either of the 3rd year pros would make more sense!


     
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    If I were the Vikings I would Trade for Cousins.

     
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    Here is a quick Mock Idea.  In this scenario, Nix falls to #20, and we trade up to grab him in front of GB...

    #20)  DT  Louis Nix III  Notre Dame  (NE gives AZ #29, 3rd, and 6th)

    #40)  TE  Austin Sefarin-Jenkins  UW  (NE gives Minn Ryan Mallett and 7th)

    #62)  DT  Ego Ferguson  LSU

    4th)  C  Marcus Martin   USC

    6th)  OLB  Boseko Lokombo  UO  (via Philly)

    6th)  QB  David Fales  San Jose St.  (Comp.)

    6th)  SS  Ty Zimmerman  KSU  (Comp.)

     

    I love the idea of double-dipping on DTs early.  Inproving that position would really solidify our defense.  I know that getting an early 2nd for Mallett might be a bit of a pipe dream, but it would allow NE to have that extra ammo if they want to move up for a blue-chipper like Nix.  Without that extra 2nd, I probably would not move up at all.  What do you all think?

     

     



    love the thought, esp if we can get Nix. I just can't see Minn trading their 2nd for Mallett and a 7th. I think Malletts value might lie with Minn or Hou but it might be for a 3rd and we might have to toss in the 7th or 6th

     



    Yeah you're probably right, a second round pick for Mallet might be a little bit optimistic, but I'm just guessing.  Honestly I don't even know if he's going to get traded.  I think he probably still has quite a bit of value to New England as a capable backup.  I just wanted to put together a scenario where we could trade up to get Nix, and I think we would need that extra 2rd to do that.  Probably wishful thinking but you never know...

    You guys are really under selling the value of Mallett, the Redskins have let it be known that it will take a 2nd round pick to acquire Cousins! Mallett may not have played a down, but he also hasn't thrown 12 picks in two years! He is learning under TB and I'd rather have a QB who learned from TB than some jag who played because he had to. Mallett's worth is probably more than Cousins, so if Washington wants a 2nd what do you think BB wants? It sure as hell won't be less than what Washington wants.




    Neither have I

    Nor I, but I haven't spent 2 years learning possibly the most complex offense behind arguably the greatest QB in the history of the Patriots franchise, and possibly of the leagues history. As for Cousins those int's were in 10 games! So if I've gotta choose between the two I'll take the guy noone other than the Patriots have seen. Personally I wouldn't trade him. I definately wouldn't trade him to Houston.




    Make list of all the QB's in the draft to be gone by end of round 2 and compare to Mallett or Cousins..  Are they better or worse than what is coming into the Nfl. If better, what's wrong trading the pick for one of those and drafting a "need " player in round one?

    The one thing that Mallett and Cousins have that none of the college kids have is experience in the NFL. So I would say that none of the potential draft picks would be better than either of the two guys already in the NFL. So trading for either of the 3rd year pros would make more sense!




    By your logic, no team should be drafting a QB early in the draft.  That goes against how teams in the NFL find good QBs.

    With the exception of Rodgers, practically every good to excellent QB in the NFL was fed to the fire on his rookie or sophomore year and showed starter ability. Brees and Palmer, even though acquired via FA, showed that ability in their early years in the NFL. No team found a good QB from a acquiring a FA backup. If there are such teams, it is extermely rare.

    Also, the draft prospects have something that Mallett does not -- experience playing actual games that matter, over the past 2-3 years. I believe QBs develop more from those games than playing badly in preseason games.

     

     
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    I think Norwood is the most underrated of the names mentioned



    It's a good debate, but I give that title to Latimer.

     
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