***2014 PATRIOTS DRAFT THREAD***

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    What (1) player are you most intrigued by in this draft class?

    For me, it remains FSU LB Telvin Smith... 6-3 218, athletic rangy, aggressive, physical and competitive... he's the prototype hybrid defender for today's NFL and I'd love to see how BB and the defensive staff would utilize him.



    Telvin Smith and Hageman are great answers, but for me it is Bruce Ellington.  I saw him play several times this past season and came away very impressed by his sheer athleticism and his ability to make tough catches.  I would love to see him in out offense.



    I too like Ellington... very good fit for NE's offense, operating out've the slot.

     
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    A couple of unknowns with high Power/ Explosion and Movement grades, this is intriguing to me:

    (P/Ex) Power/Explosion > 65 excellent > 70 Elite

    (M) Movement , SS/CB< 17,  LB < 17.5 Excellent

    Some players did not meet the standard or complete the drills

    DBs

    Brock Vareen, SS  M=16.94  P/Ex=68.9

    Kenny Ladler, P/Ex=71

    Rashaad Reynolds, M=16.73   PEx=67.8

    Phillip Gaines M=16.54

     

    Thomas, Jemea, P/Ex =66 Gilbert, Justin, P/Ex =66 Jean-Baptiste, Stanley, P/Ex =66

    DL

    Did not calculate movement, yet

    Hageman,  P/Ex =76.8

    Donald, P/Ex =76.8

    Smith, Chris, 75.1

    Wynn, Kerry, 74.5

    Gayle, James, 73.2

    Enemkpali, I.K., 71.9

    Jones, Howard, 71.9

    Palepoi, Tenny, 70.8

    Clowney, Jadeveon, 68.9

    Martin, Kareem, 68.4

    Smith, Marcus, 68.1

    Bromely, Jay, 67.6

    Moore, Zach, 66.8

    Thornton, Khyri, 66.4

    Manumaleuna, Eathyn, 65.5

    Carrethers, Ryan,65.4

    Jernigan, Timmy,65.1

    LBs

    Some LBs did not complete all drills or reach the standard

    Pierre-Louis, Kevin, P/Ex=77.8    M= 16.99

    Murphy, Trent,                            M=17.47

    Barr, Anthony                             M=17.23

    Shazier, Ryan, 77.1

    Fortt, Khairi, 76

    Shembo, Prince, 74.7

    Mack, Khalil, 73.8      M=17.5

    George, Jeremiah, 70.8

    Bradford, Carl, 70.7

    Bullough, Max, 70.4

    Tripp, Jordan, 69.5          M=17.11

    Borland, Chris, 67.6

    Barrow, Lamin, 67.3

    Powell, Ronald, 66.1

    Brown, Preston, 65.8

    Starr, Tyler, 65.8                       M=17.42

    Williamson, Avery, 65.5              M =17.43

     

     

     
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    First attempt at a 1st round mock, I have no idea why but went with best center in the draft:

    1. Texans  QB Blake Bortles

    2. Rams  OT Jake Matthews

    3. Jaguars QB Teddy Bridgewater

    4. Browns WR Sammy Watkins

    5. Raiders OT Greg Robinson

    6. Falcons DE J. Clowney

    7. Buccaneers OT Taylor Lewan

    8. Vikings  QB Johnny Manziel

    9. Bills  LB Khalil Mack

    10. Lions  WR Mike Evans

    11. Titans S H. Clinton-Dix

    12. Giants   LB Anthony Barr

    13. Rams WR Kelvin Benjamin

    14. Bears  DT Aaron Donald

    15. Steelers  CB Darqueze Dennard

    16. Ravens  OT Cyrus Kouandjio

    17. Cowboys  DT RaShede Hageman

    18. Jets WR Marqise Lee

    19.Dolphins OT Zack Martin

    20. Cardinals CB Marcus Roberson

    21. Packers  NT Louis Nix

    22. Eagles LB Ryan Shazier

    23. Chiefs  LB C.J. Mosley

    24. Bengals  FS Calvin Pryor

    25. Chargers  TE Eric Ebron

    26. Browns QB Derek Carr

    27. Saints  DE Dee Ford

    28. Panthers  WR Odell Beckham Jr.

    29. Patriots C Travis Swanson

    30. 49ers WR Jordan Matthews

    31. Broncos DT Timmy Jernigan

    32. Seahawks OG David Yankey

     
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    First attempt at a 1st round mock:

    1. Texans needs: QB, OT, S    QB Blake Bortles

    2. Rams  needs: OL, WR, S OT Jake Matthews

    3. Jaguars needs: QB, DE, OT    QB Teddy Bridgewater

    4. Browns needs: QB, RB, OG    WR Sammy Watkins

    5. Raiders needs: QB, WR, OT    OT Greg Robinson

    6. Falcons needs: DE, OL, TE    DE J. Clowney

    7. Buccaneers  Needs: DE, TE, OT    OT Taylor Lewan

    8. Vikings needs: QB, DE, OG    QB Johnny Manziel

    9. Bills needs: LB, TE, RT    LB Khalil Mack

    10. Lions needs: CB, WR, S   WR Mike Evans

    11. Titans needs: S, DE, QB    S H. Clinton-Dix

    12. Giants Needs: LB, CB, int OL    LB Anthony Barr

    13. Rams needs: OL, WR, S   WR Kelvin Benjamin

    14. Bears needs: DL, S, Int OL    DT Aaron Donald

    15. Steelers Needs: OT, S, CB    CB Darqueze Dennard

    16. Ravens  needs: OT, C, WR    OT Cyrus Kouandjio

    17. Cowboys Needs: DE, CB, S   DT RaShede Hageman

    18. Jets needs: WR, OG, CB    WR Marqise Lee

    19.Dolphins Needs: OT, OG, RB    OT Zack Martin

    20. Cardinals needs: OT, CB, OLB   CB Marcus Roberson

    21. Packers needs: TE, S, LB    NT Louis Nix

    22. Eagles needs: OLB, S, CB    LB Ryan Shazier

    23. Chiefs needs: WR, DL, ILB    LB C.J. Mosley

    24. Bengals needs: CB, OLB, S  FS Calvin Pryor

    25. Chargers needs: CB, OG, OLB    TE Eric Ebron

    26. Browns needs: QB, RB, OG    QB Derek Carr

    27. Saints Needs: OT, OLB, CB    DE Dee Ford

    28. Panthers needs: WR, CB, OL     WR Odell Beckham Jr.

    29. Patriots needs:  OL, DL, TE, S    OC Travis Swanson

    30. 49ers needs: WR, DL, CB    WR Jordan Matthews

    31. Broncos needs: OT, CB, DL    DT Timmy Jernigan

    32. Seahawks needs: WR, TE, OL  OG David Yankey



    Good overall mock, man, but I would HATE that first rounder by the Pats.  No offense, but I think there would be many better options available there.  If they want interior O-Line there, I like the UCLA Guard much more.

     
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    Good overall mock, man, but I would HATE that first rounder by the Pats.  No offense, but I think there would be many better options available there.  If they want interior O-Line there, I like the UCLA Guard much more.

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    NO idea why I went that way lol had Amaro first then changed to Tuitt before just going with Swanson.  Just keep thinking of push up the middle last few years, Swanson will be a probowl C sooner than later.

     
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    Good overall mock, man, but I would HATE that first rounder by the Pats.  No offense, but I think there would be many better options available there.  If they want interior O-Line there, I like the UCLA Guard much more.



    NO idea why I went that way lol had Amaro first then changed to Tuitt before just going with Swanson.  Just keep thinking of push up the middle last few years, Swanson will be a probowl C sooner than later.



Yeah, I'm not saying he is a bad player, just the opposite actually.  I think he will be good, too. I think he could be had late 2nd, though.  It would be bad value at 29, IMO.  If they traded back into the second and then took him, I would be okay with that.  You can't pass up guys like Amaro or Tuitt, among others for him though.  That being said, it does seem like a BB thing to do!

 
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    Good overall mock, man, but I would HATE that first rounder by the Pats.  No offense, but I think there would be many better options available there.  If they want interior O-Line there, I like the UCLA Guard much more.

     

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    NO idea why I went that way lol had Amaro first then changed to Tuitt before just going with Swanson.  Just keep thinking of push up the middle last few years, Swanson will be a probowl C sooner than later.

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    Haha, I have to admit, if BB/NC passes on Gilbert, Ealy, Tuitt or Jernigan, etc., for Swanson, I'll be in tje market for a new big screen after smashing mine.  Nice player,  but more  day 2 for me.  In regards to Gilbert, unless he severly injures himself between now and May, I don't see him getring outve the top 15/20... kid is a stud on tape and killed the combine.

    Btw, we'll need you to kick of your annual thread/board wide mock soon!

     
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    Good overall mock, man, but I would HATE that first rounder by the Pats.  No offense, but I think there would be many better options available there.  If they want interior O-Line there, I like the UCLA Guard much more.

     



    NO idea why I went that way lol had Amaro first then changed to Tuitt before just going with Swanson.  Just keep thinking of push up the middle last few years, Swanson will be a probowl C sooner than later.



    Haha, I have to admit, if BB/NC passes on Gilbert, Ealy, Tuitt or Jernigan, etc., for Swanson, I'll be in tje market for a new big screen after smashing mine.  Nice player,  but more  day 2 for me.  In regards to Gilbert, unless he severly injures himself between now and May, I don't see him getring outve the top 15/20... kid is a stud on tape and killed the combine.

    Btw, we'll need you to kick of your annual thread/board wide mock soon!



  • Was just thinking about that thread, I had the hardest time doing my first mock.  Way too many 1st round grade talent and I went with C lol but have no clue why he came to mind on that spot.

     
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    Good overall mock, man, but I would HATE that first rounder by the Pats.  No offense, but I think there would be many better options available there.  If they want interior O-Line there, I like the UCLA Guard much more.

     



    NO idea why I went that way lol had Amaro first then changed to Tuitt before just going with Swanson.  Just keep thinking of push up the middle last few years, Swanson will be a probowl C sooner than later.



    Haha, I have to admit, if BB/NC passes on Gilbert, Ealy, Tuitt or Jernigan, etc., for Swanson, I'll be in tje market for a new big screen after smashing mine.  Nice player,  but more  day 2 for me.  In regards to Gilbert, unless he severly injures himself between now and May, I don't see him getring outve the top 15/20... kid is a stud on tape and killed the combine.

    Btw, we'll need you to kick of your annual thread/board wide mock soon!



    Was just thinking about that thread, I had the hardest time doing my first mock.  Way too many 1st round grade talent and I went with C lol but have no clue why he came to mind on that spot.



  • Agree, very good depth... also agree rhat they'll nees to upgrade the interior OL... particularly the pivot.

     
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    Agree, very good depth... also agree rhat they'll nees to upgrade the interior OL... particularly the pivot.

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    Man I just have a bad feeling though, we might now see a NE pick until hour 2 or 3 on second day.  Only way I'm good with that if they are able to get 4 or 5 solid 2nd/3rd rounders which in this draft that's a nice hawl.

     
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    mb and gents check this mock,

    http://www.nfl.com/draft/2014/mock-drafts/daniel-jeremiah/190602

    both Hageman and Nix available for Pats.  Daniel Jeremiah chooses Hageman for Pats, I'm undecided between those two.  I think Nix could be huge not just in size, I would call him mini VW but he's his twin.

     
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    mb and gents check this mock,

    http://www.nfl.com/draft/2014/mock-drafts/daniel-jeremiah/190602

    both Hageman and Nix available for Pats.  Daniel Jeremiah chooses Hageman for Pats, I'm undecided between those two.  I think Nix could be huge not just in size, I would call him mini VW but he's his twin.



    if Nix was somehow on the board at 29 and we didn't take him..... ....

    he gives me VW 2.0 feelings

     
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    First attempt at a 1st round mock, I have no idea why but went with best center in the draft:

    1. Texans  QB Blake Bortles

    2. Rams  OT Jake Matthews

    3. Jaguars QB Teddy Bridgewater

    4. Browns WR Sammy Watkins

    5. Raiders OT Greg Robinson

    6. Falcons DE J. Clowney

    7. Buccaneers OT Taylor Lewan

    8. Vikings  QB Johnny Manziel

    9. Bills  LB Khalil Mack

    10. Lions  WR Mike Evans

    11. Titans S H. Clinton-Dix

    12. Giants   LB Anthony Barr

    13. Rams WR Kelvin Benjamin

    14. Bears  DT Aaron Donald

    15. Steelers  CB Darqueze Dennard

    16. Ravens  OT Cyrus Kouandjio

    17. Cowboys  DT RaShede Hageman

    18. Jets WR Marqise Lee

    19.Dolphins OT Zack Martin

    20. Cardinals CB Marcus Roberson

    21. Packers  NT Louis Nix

    22. Eagles LB Ryan Shazier

    23. Chiefs  LB C.J. Mosley

    24. Bengals  FS Calvin Pryor

    25. Chargers  TE Eric Ebron

    26. Browns QB Derek Carr

    27. Saints  DE Dee Ford

    28. Panthers  WR Odell Beckham Jr.

    29. Patriots C Travis Swanson

    30. 49ers WR Jordan Matthews

    31. Broncos DT Timmy Jernigan

    32. Seahawks OG David Yankey




    Some really good picks and in the end no one can predict what NE would do.  I am more interested in what you would do in the 2nd and 3rd with a OC a 1st rd pick.

    Kouandijo because of knee problems will probably not go in the first. for CB, Gilbert will go top 15.

    I think in the first round there will be a QB sitting at 29 that somone will move on and NE will trade out.

     
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    Another thought from a recently departed OL coach named Scarnecchia. When asked what he thought the Patriots needed in the up coming draft he said DL and LB. MB there is where we should look in regards to BB's drafting plans for 2014. So my original pick of Hageman is in play, and I doubt CJ Mosely will be available in the latter stages of the 1rst round. There are of course the two Iowa kids and my favorite Bullough who by all accounts is a 3rd rounder at the earliest. So we grab Shazier or Skov early.

     
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    mb and gents check this mock,

    http://www.nfl.com/draft/2014/mock-drafts/daniel-jeremiah/190602

    both Hageman and Nix available for Pats.  Daniel Jeremiah chooses Hageman for Pats, I'm undecided between those two.  I think Nix could be huge not just in size, I would call him mini VW but he's his twin.



    If both are available you have to go with Nix. He really is Vince 2.0. While I love Hageman he really is a boom or bust player so I'd rather Nix

     
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    mb and gents check this mock,

    http://www.nfl.com/draft/2014/mock-drafts/daniel-jeremiah/190602

    both Hageman and Nix available for Pats.  Daniel Jeremiah chooses Hageman for Pats, I'm undecided between those two.  I think Nix could be huge not just in size, I would call him mini VW but he's his twin.



    It's a good choice to have, but IDK how you pass on Nix for Hageman.  Yeah, Irish Chocolate is as close to VW as you can prob come, haha.

     
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    Another thought from a recently departed OL coach named Scarnecchia. When asked what he thought the Patriots needed in the up coming draft he said DL and LB. MB there is where we should look in regards to BB's drafting plans for 2014. So my original pick of Hageman is in play, and I doubt CJ Mosely will be available in the latter stages of the 1rst round. There are of course the two Iowa kids and my favorite Bullough who by all accounts is a 3rd rounder at the earliest. So we grab Shazier or Skov early.



    The closer we get to the draft, the more that I think (based on who could be available) that they'll target the defensive side of the ball first.  So let me be the first to welcome Brandin Cooks to Foxoboro!

     
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    Agree, very good depth... also agree rhat they'll nees to upgrade the interior OL... particularly the pivot.



    Man I just have a bad feeling though, we might now see a NE pick until hour 2 or 3 on second day.  Only way I'm good with that if they are able to get 4 or 5 solid 2nd/3rd rounders which in this draft that's a nice hawl.



    While I'd love them to land a potential impact starter on Day 1, I'd be OK with this kinda haul as well.

     
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    Another thought from a recently departed OL coach named Scarnecchia. When asked what he thought the Patriots needed in the up coming draft he said DL and LB. MB there is where we should look in regards to BB's drafting plans for 2014. So my original pick of Hageman is in play, and I doubt CJ Mosely will be available in the latter stages of the 1rst round. There are of course the two Iowa kids and my favorite Bullough who by all accounts is a 3rd rounder at the earliest. So we grab Shazier or Skov early.



    The closer we get to the draft, the more that I think (based on who could be available) that they'll target the defensive side of the ball first.  So let me be the first to welcome Brandin Cooks to Foxoboro!



    Fastest 60yrd in the history of all records at the combine 10.72, 4.33 40.

     
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    mb and gents check this mock,

    http://www.nfl.com/draft/2014/mock-drafts/daniel-jeremiah/190602

    both Hageman and Nix available for Pats.  Daniel Jeremiah chooses Hageman for Pats, I'm undecided between those two.  I think Nix could be huge not just in size, I would call him mini VW but he's his twin.



    If both are available you have to go with Nix. He really is Vince 2.0. While I love Hageman he really is a boom or bust player so I'd rather Nix



    Totally agree.

     
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    The more tape I see of Cody Latimer, the more I want him across from Dobson.  He looked very good vs. MSU's very good CB tandem of dennard and Waynes and even beat/boxed out Dennard for a TD.  He finished with 7-58-1, but his QB missed him a couple of times and Sparty had the #3 passing D in the country.

     
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    Here's a mock with NE taking Niklas at #29:

    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfp-mock-draft-1-0-160000571--nfl.html

     
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    Too high for me, I would not take a TE in Rd 1. 

     
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    Too high for me, I would not take a TE in Rd 1. 



    I still prefer D in Rd 1... or Brandin Cooks, ha.

     
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    Too high for me, I would not take a TE in Rd 1. 



    I still prefer D in Rd 1... or Brandin Cooks, ha.




    I hear MB, Cooks would be interesting, maybe a trade back to top of rd 2. Still hoping for Pryor.

     
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