***2014 PATRIOTS DRAFT THREAD***

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    I keep forgetting about will sutton DT Arizona State, such a sleeper pick his stock has fallen. Would love to draft him in the later rounds. Also Kelcy Quarles South Carolina DT and btw, his uncle is the one and only Ben Coates :) 

     

     
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    MB

    Echoing CanPat thoughts with Fletcher and Spikes gone and Chandler Jones and Nink playing most snaps, how do you think we should move forward eg Buchanan, Collins , Beauharnais are they enough? Particularly in covering the field ie TE's.

    If not considering our current DT situation what are the best options? 

    DT that can play DE, cover LB's etc? Bit worried we haven't picked up a bit of experience in that area and Denver is sure to pick out a weakness there.

     
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    thanks for the shout mb and eng.                                                                                        any of ya'll tried the draft simulator? i went agaisnt the fans only so far. did 2 rounds only. took nix and niklas. wanted ealy in rd 1 he went 16. will go against teh pro sites another day. i we dont get a pass rusher in fa, thats what im looking for most. then the best te. dts, o line, cover lb, safety(best player alwasy an option but have to be outstanding to ignore need esp re first 2 positions).

     

    peace

     
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    Hey Bredbru, glad your back. I agree on draft BPA if needs are met in FA, would like to see NE sign Pat Sims, DT from Oakland.  Young and stout better than the young DTs we have.  Iguess they need to figure out the VW situation. I would like a coverage LB also, maybe a TE and DE/OLB.  Robert Ayers would be good on a prove it deal.  Let's see what happens.

     
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    Hey Bredbru, glad your back. I agree on draft BPA if needs are met in FA, would like to see NE sign Pat Sims, DT from Oakland.  Young and stout better than the young DTs we have.  Iguess they need to figure out the VW situation. I would like a coverage LB also, maybe a TE and DE/OLB.  Robert Ayers would be good on a prove it deal.  Let's see what happens.



    thanks jj. here a bit at moment. i like your plans/thougths. and prefer fa before the draft ie your 2 moves (freeing up the draft).

     
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    thanks for the shout mb and eng.                                                                                        any of ya'll tried the draft simulator? i went agaisnt the fans only so far. did 2 rounds only. took nix and niklas. wanted ealy in rd 1 he went 16. will go against teh pro sites another day. i we dont get a pass rusher in fa, thats what im looking for most. then the best te. dts, o line, cover lb, safety(best player alwasy an option but have to be outstanding to ignore need esp re first 2 positions).

     

    peace



    against optimum scouting i got ealy, then daqaun jones (niklas gone). had to choose between jones and swanson. if we get  a good dt in fa maybe wouldve gone swanson if the tes i wanted were gone). will try one more against walter fb when get a chance.

     
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    Wondering if Trent Murphy will be available when we pick in first round. He is not the DL stud I am wanting most but he could rotate with Nink and add depth at DE/OLB. ANd he might be able to rush inside on passing downs.

     

    On TEs - Personally I hope they get a solid all around TE who is a strong blocker. I want a guy who adds to the running game but without mortaging the passing game AND can step in as #1 TE if Gronk is out.

     

     
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    thanks for the shout mb and eng.                                                                                        any of ya'll tried the draft simulator? i went agaisnt the fans only so far. did 2 rounds only. took nix and niklas. wanted ealy in rd 1 he went 16. will go against teh pro sites another day. i we dont get a pass rusher in fa, thats what im looking for most. then the best te. dts, o line, cover lb, safety(best player alwasy an option but have to be outstanding to ignore need esp re first 2 positions).

     

    peace

     



    against optimum scouting i got ealy, then daqaun jones (niklas gone). had to choose between jones and swanson. if we get  a good dt in fa maybe wouldve gone swanson if the tes i wanted were gone). will try one more against walter fb when get a chance.

     



    Can you paste the link for this draft simulator?

     
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    Kelvin Benjamin would make an immediate impact on the Pats. Other than the straight ahead speed, he reminds me of Megatron.

     

    Would not mind at all using #29 on him.

     



    A definite matchup nightmare with a ton of upside.  If he can catch the ball more consistently, look out.

     
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    I keep forgetting about will sutton DT Arizona State, such a sleeper pick his stock has fallen. Would love to draft him in the later rounds. Also Kelcy Quarles South Carolina DT and btw, his uncle is the one and only Ben Coates :) 

     



    Just don't know where Sutton fits.  He was a better player when he played at a lighter weight... has some quickness and ability... but not somebody that I'd want on the interior of the defense.

    Quarles I like though... good size and length... has some raw power and the ability to disrupt.

     
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    MB

    Echoing CanPat thoughts with Fletcher and Spikes gone and Chandler Jones and Nink playing most snaps, how do you think we should move forward eg Buchanan, Collins , Beauharnais are they enough? Particularly in covering the field ie TE's.

    If not considering our current DT situation what are the best options? 

    DT that can play DE, cover LB's etc? Bit worried we haven't picked up a bit of experience in that area and Denver is sure to pick out a weakness there.



    They should be able to land a quality DT at some point on the first couple days of the draft and there are a few mid round kids that could contribute as well.  Good to have Kelly back and hopefully he can remain healthy.  Interesting to see how the VW scencario plays out (don't need to rush things at this point) and who's available when the camp cuts are made by other teams.

    I would like to see them add some depth to DE and LB, yes... and I do think Beauharnais will get a shot to show what he can do, now that he has a year in the system under his belt.

     
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    Wondering if Trent Murphy will be available when we pick in first round. He is not the DL stud I am wanting most but he could rotate with Nink and add depth at DE/OLB. ANd he might be able to rush inside on passing downs.

     

    On TEs - Personally I hope they get a solid all around TE who is a strong blocker. I want a guy who adds to the running game but without mortaging the passing game AND can step in as #1 TE if Gronk is out.

     



    I'd expect Murphy to be available at the end of Rd 1 if they want him there, yes.  There's also an outside shot that he could be avialable near the end of Rd 2, though I think he's prob off the board in the Top 50 or so.  Good length and triangle #'s, huge hands, was disruptive last season.  Give Lousiville's Marcus Smith and Utah's Trevor Reilly a look as well.  Smith is one of the more underrated players in this class, IMO and a realistic option for them on Day 2... Reilly is a tough, try hard type kid with good size, length and versatility and should be off the board at some point within the Top 75.

     
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    Another day down!51 more days until the draft!



    Can't f'n wait!

     
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    What's their plan for the middle of that OL, I thought they would had brought someone in.  At OC I think someone who gets the protection calls right is key, I don't know they will give that too a Rook so would have to assume Connolly back at OC where I think he's a better fit.

    If you put cannon at OG then there's not depth.  I know we are looking at DT and TE which we do but we need OG/OC play as bad as DT play.

     

     
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    What's their plan for the middle of that OL, I thought they would had brought someone in.  At OC I think someone who gets the protection calls right is key, I don't know they will give that too a Rook so would have to assume Connolly back at OC where I think he's a better fit.

    If you put cannon at OG then there's not depth.  I know we are looking at DT and TE which we do but we need OG/OC play as bad as DT play.

     



    I'd bet that they feel confident that they can beef up the interior OL in the draft, and I'd agree with them on that.

     
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    What's their plan for the middle of that OL, I thought they would had brought someone in.  At OC I think someone who gets the protection calls right is key, I don't know they will give that too a Rook so would have to assume Connolly back at OC where I think he's a better fit.

    If you put cannon at OG then there's not depth.  I know we are looking at DT and TE which we do but we need OG/OC play as bad as DT play.

     

     



    I'd bet that they feel confident that they can beef up the interior OL in the draft, and I'd agree with them on that.

     



    Only player I wanted them to offer on the OL is Alex Mac, but most likely the Browns with all their cap $$ would had been able to match or better NE's offer.

     But thought they would bring in a vet type not to be forced in the draft to take a need rather than BPA

     
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    What's their plan for the middle of that OL, I thought they would had brought someone in.  At OC I think someone who gets the protection calls right is key, I don't know they will give that too a Rook so would have to assume Connolly back at OC where I think he's a better fit.

    If you put cannon at OG then there's not depth.  I know we are looking at DT and TE which we do but we need OG/OC play as bad as DT play.

     

     

     



    I'd bet that they feel confident that they can beef up the interior OL in the draft, and I'd agree with them on that.

     

     



    Only player I wanted them to offer on the OL is Alex Mac, but most likely the Browns with all their cap $$ would had been able to match or better NE's offer.

     But thought they would bring in a vet type not to be forced in the draft to take a need rather than BPA



    Yeah, I just don't see them allocating much more $ to the interior of the OL, considering they're already paying Mankins well.  They've gotten by on mid/late round/URFA type OC's for a while and I'd expect them to stay on that route.

     
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    Hey Bredbru, been coming to this site for a few years before the draft to get myself ready and be informed before the big day.  Enjoy all the guys here so much in the know about players...I've been wondering where you were.  You're usually one of the most upbeat guys here.  Looking forward to your views on this draft. 

     
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    What's their plan for the middle of that OL, I thought they would had brought someone in.  At OC I think someone who gets the protection calls right is key, I don't know they will give that too a Rook so would have to assume Connolly back at OC where I think he's a better fit.

    If you put cannon at OG then there's not depth.  I know we are looking at DT and TE which we do but we need OG/OC play as bad as DT play.

     

     

     

     



    I'd bet that they feel confident that they can beef up the interior OL in the draft, and I'd agree with them on that.

     

     

     



    Only player I wanted them to offer on the OL is Alex Mac, but most likely the Browns with all their cap $$ would had been able to match or better NE's offer.

     But thought they would bring in a vet type not to be forced in the draft to take a need rather than BPA



    Yeah, I just don't see them allocating much more $ to the interior of the OL, considering they're already paying Mankins well.  They've gotten by on mid/late round/URFA type OC's for a while and I'd expect them to stay on that route.




    Don't forget Josh Kline and Chris Barker. They were on the 53 man roster.  Kline did well in his limited role.  Barker has decent size listed 6'3" 305 and can play OG or OC.  They kept them on the roster for a reason.

     
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    Louis Nix III not selected in Rd 1 of the latest SI Mock:

     

    NE lands Ra'Shede Hageman at #29

     

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nfl/news/20140318/2014-nfl-mock-draft-blake-bortles/

     
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    Louis Nix III not selected in Rd 1 of the latest SI Mock:

     

    NE lands Ra'Shede Hageman at #29

     

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nfl/news/20140318/2014-nfl-mock-draft-blake-bortles/



    concerns about the knee maybe and I've heard questions recently about his ability to handle dbl teams. Not sure I believe it myself by I can see the concern

     
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    ^ I keep thinking maybe Ealy will make it to NE.  Kony Ealy would be an interesting way to go in the first. TE in the 2nd and DT in the 3rd or vice-a-versa.

    The Nix rep is strange. Kid has all the intangibles.  It cannot be as bad as Jesse Williams last year.  That would be a crazy drop.  No way. San Diego only has Kwame Geathers and another NT.  I really think they would grab him, but who knows.

     
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    If any of the QBs fall and are there at 29 and there's still plenty of options for BB to trade in 33 to 36, I got a feeling we'll be screaming at the TV day one.  Just got that feeling that with all the QBs having question marks around them and the depth of top 15 talent outside of any QB specially at LT some teams might decide to wait.

     
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    If any of the QBs fall and are there at 29 and there's still plenty of options for BB to trade in 33 to 36, I got a feeling we'll be screaming at the TV day one.  Just got that feeling that with all the QBs having question marks around them and the depth of top 15 talent outside of any QB specially at LT some teams might decide to wait.



    If Minny or Jacksonville pass on a QB in Rd1, I think they are prime candidates to move back up.

     
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    ^ I keep thinking maybe Ealy will make it to NE.  Kony Ealy would be an interesting way to go in the first. TE in the 2nd and DT in the 3rd or vice-a-versa.

    The Nix rep is strange. Kid has all the intangibles.  It cannot be as bad as Jesse Williams last year.  That would be a crazy drop.  No way. San Diego only has Kwame Geathers and another NT.  I really think they would grab him, but who knows.


    jj, re
    "Kony Ealy would be an interesting way to go in the first. TE in the 2nd"

    as i have had it (ealy / niklas)

     
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