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    Aside from Dobson, I don't really like anyone they drafted. They're all "meh" guys. 

     

    Last year's guys were much better, I pray to Hay-Sus that BB is planning to sign John Abraham cause we need a pass-rusher...badly. And Vince is like 30+, he's going to start breaking down soon. Williams would've made great insurance. 

     



    Kid, how old are you? 22?  23? 

     

    Clearly, people are passing on Williams for a reason, Einstein.

     



    Duron Harmon is a joke...like Tavon Wilson. I don't care if everyone passed on him, we have a 31 year old NT who's been the lone workhorse DLman in over 5 years. You're asking for trouble if you don't get some insurance. 

     

     



    31? Ngata is what 35? BB just signed Tommy Kelly. You have no idea what his plans are.

     

    He could do DT in Rd 4 or next year.

    Stop acting like you know more when you;re some 22 year old Millenial who probably has never even left home before.

    It's like your personally insulted your mocks or others's mocks don't match BBs.

    It's the same crap every year with you little pink hats. Kid, I was watching this game long before you were born.

    Learn the game.

     



    - Duron Harmon, FIRST OFF ALL, DURON ISN'T A NAME! That's my first issue with that guy.

    - Second, we have 3 picks in the 7th. The guy would've been there!

    - Thirdly, Baltimore has Arthur Jones, a guy I love, so Ngata's health won't be the be all and end of their DL. 

     
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    Liking what we're getting, a lot!

    Dobson is a perimeter threat who can stretch the field, we got an explosive edge-rusher to go next to Jones in Jamie, and we added CB depth in a solid player in Ryan, along with a hard-hitting, fast-flying SS in Harmon. Adrian Wilson is a great addition, but the guy will be around for 3 years, max.

    At this point, I see our needs going into day 3 as follows:

    Interior DL, LB depth (preferably a cover LB), and another WR. 

    Beyond that, the only place I could see a need would be at interior OL, but that's a lesser priority compared to the aforementioned positions. 

    We solidified the defensive backfield, we have edge-rushers, and our offense is largely set outside of another WR. 

    Here's highlights of Harmon.. I really like what I see. 

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4BKf-miCtM




    Watching this video I honestly felt like I was watching a Tavon Wilson "highlight" video from last year...and that's not a good thing. At least we didn't select him in the second like we did with Wilson.

     
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    Liking what we're getting, a lot!

    Dobson is a perimeter threat who can stretch the field, we got an explosive edge-rusher to go next to Jones in Jamie, and we added CB depth in a solid player in Ryan, along with a hard-hitting, fast-flying SS in Harmon. Adrian Wilson is a great addition, but the guy will be around for 3 years, max.

    At this point, I see our needs going into day 3 as follows:

    Interior DL, LB depth (preferably a cover LB), and another WR. 

    Beyond that, the only place I could see a need would be at interior OL, but that's a lesser priority compared to the aforementioned positions. 

    We solidified the defensive backfield, we have edge-rushers, and our offense is largely set outside of another WR. 

    Here's highlights of Harmon.. I really like what I see. 

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4BKf-miCtM

     




    Watching this video I honestly felt like I was watching a Tavon Wilson "highlight" video from last year...and that's not a good thing. At least we didn't select him in the second like we did with Wilson.

     



    I'm really not sure what you're seeing in Harmon that bears much resemblance to Wilson, but to each their own. 

     
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    How is that even possible?  If he was targeted 92 times and caught only 57, would'nt he have a drop rate of around 40%?

    He does have alot of acrobatic catches, but didn't Brandon Lloyd too?

     
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    Liking what we're getting, a lot!

    Dobson is a perimeter threat who can stretch the field, we got an explosive edge-rusher to go next to Jones in Jamie, and we added CB depth in a solid player in Ryan, along with a hard-hitting, fast-flying SS in Harmon. Adrian Wilson is a great addition, but the guy will be around for 3 years, max.

    At this point, I see our needs going into day 3 as follows:

    Interior DL, LB depth (preferably a cover LB), and another WR. 

    Beyond that, the only place I could see a need would be at interior OL, but that's a lesser priority compared to the aforementioned positions. 

    We solidified the defensive backfield, we have edge-rushers, and our offense is largely set outside of another WR. 

    Here's highlights of Harmon.. I really like what I see. 

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4BKf-miCtM



    If I have to evaluate Harmon based on that video alone, then I have to say I don't like him.

    0:50 he missed a tackle, TD

    1:50 went to the air for an INT attempt. clearly misread the ball's trajectory. he got lucky the receiver did not catch it.

    Later, he bit on a cut by the receiver. He just got lucky that his fingers go to the receiver's shoelaces. Else, another TD given up.

     
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    How is that even possible?  If he was targeted 92 times and caught only 57, would'nt he have a drop rate of around 40%?

    He does have alot of acrobatic catches, but didn't Brandon Lloyd too?



    Just because you're targeted, it doesn't men the ball was catchable. A drop is when the ball hits your hand...and you drop it. Like Wes Welker in 46. 

     
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    Liking what we're getting, a lot!

    Dobson is a perimeter threat who can stretch the field, we got an explosive edge-rusher to go next to Jones in Jamie, and we added CB depth in a solid player in Ryan, along with a hard-hitting, fast-flying SS in Harmon. Adrian Wilson is a great addition, but the guy will be around for 3 years, max.

    At this point, I see our needs going into day 3 as follows:

    Interior DL, LB depth (preferably a cover LB), and another WR. 

    Beyond that, the only place I could see a need would be at interior OL, but that's a lesser priority compared to the aforementioned positions. 

    We solidified the defensive backfield, we have edge-rushers, and our offense is largely set outside of another WR. 

    Here's highlights of Harmon.. I really like what I see. 

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4BKf-miCtM

     



    We had that in T Wilson unless they are admitting he is a bust already which I hope they aren't

     

     



    I think Wilson is more a hybrid, roaming DB, who can play everywhere, but may not possess the hitting-ability to strictly play SS. I see more of a prototypical SS in Harmon.

     



    So Wilson becomes a part time player with Harmon because nether is taking a spot from McCourty at this point. If that's true they just spent a late 3rd (not bad value actually for a put time player) and a mid 2nd (horrible value for a part time player) for 3 player platoon at SS's (don't forget A. Wilson signing)? They won't be playing dime every down, they just signed Arrington to a large contract for a slot CB, they added another quality LB. Seems like somethins got to give, my guess is Gregory gone and Ebner taking Coles spot on ST.

     
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    How is that even possible?  If he was targeted 92 times and caught only 57, would'nt he have a drop rate of around 40%?

    He does have alot of acrobatic catches, but didn't Brandon Lloyd too?

     



    common sense would tell you the rest were uncatchable balls from poor throws. 

     



    Hmmm. Does he bail out on a lot of balls?

     
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    Liking what we're getting, a lot!

    Dobson is a perimeter threat who can stretch the field, we got an explosive edge-rusher to go next to Jones in Jamie, and we added CB depth in a solid player in Ryan, along with a hard-hitting, fast-flying SS in Harmon. Adrian Wilson is a great addition, but the guy will be around for 3 years, max.

    At this point, I see our needs going into day 3 as follows:

    Interior DL, LB depth (preferably a cover LB), and another WR. 

    Beyond that, the only place I could see a need would be at interior OL, but that's a lesser priority compared to the aforementioned positions. 

    We solidified the defensive backfield, we have edge-rushers, and our offense is largely set outside of another WR. 

    Here's highlights of Harmon.. I really like what I see. 

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4BKf-miCtM

     



    We had that in T Wilson unless they are admitting he is a bust already which I hope they aren't

     

     



    I think Wilson is more a hybrid, roaming DB, who can play everywhere, but may not possess the hitting-ability to strictly play SS. I see more of a prototypical SS in Harmon.

     

     



    So Wilson becomes a part time player with Harmon because nether is taking a spot from McCourty at this point. If that's true they just spent a late 3rd (not bad value actually for a put time player) and a mid 2nd (horrible value for a part time player) for 3 player platoon at SS's (don't forget A. Wilson signing)? They won't be playing dime every down, they just signed Arrington to a large contract for a slot CB, they added another quality LB. Seems like somethins got to give, my guess is Gregory gone and Ebner taking Coles spot on ST.

     



    Gregory or Cole may very well be gone, but as you said, they have Adrian Wilson. That's great, and I love what he brings, but he'll be gone in 3 years.

    Tavon Wilson fills the 'big nickel' role, who can also play CB or SS (in the base defense) in a pinch, while Harmon is your starting SS next to McCourty.

     
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    Liking what we're getting, a lot!

    Dobson is a perimeter threat who can stretch the field, we got an explosive edge-rusher to go next to Jones in Jamie, and we added CB depth in a solid player in Ryan, along with a hard-hitting, fast-flying SS in Harmon. Adrian Wilson is a great addition, but the guy will be around for 3 years, max.

    At this point, I see our needs going into day 3 as follows:

    Interior DL, LB depth (preferably a cover LB), and another WR. 

    Beyond that, the only place I could see a need would be at interior OL, but that's a lesser priority compared to the aforementioned positions. 

    We solidified the defensive backfield, we have edge-rushers, and our offense is largely set outside of another WR. 

    Here's highlights of Harmon.. I really like what I see. 

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4BKf-miCtM

     



    If I have to evaluate Harmon based on that video alone, then I have to say I don't like him.

     

    0:50 he missed a tackle, TD

    1:50 went to the air for an INT attempt. clearly misread the ball's trajectory. he got lucky the receiver did not catch it.

    Later, he bit on a cut by the receiver. He just got lucky that his fingers go to the receiver's shoelaces. Else, another TD given up.



    Wow that's a bad video. Except for one big hit he had zero impact on the game and actually gave up a couple TDs. Hope there's better video out there because that's horrible

     
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    How is that even possible?  If he was targeted 92 times and caught only 57, would'nt he have a drop rate of around 40%?

    He does have alot of acrobatic catches, but didn't Brandon Lloyd too?

     



    common sense would tell you the rest were uncatchable balls from poor throws. 

     

     



    Hmmm. Does he bail out on a lot of balls?

     



    Nothing in his scouting report says he does, his weaknesses are lacking elite speed, small hands, not a great blocker and not as fluid as most(Expected since he's a taller WR). 

     

    Is supposed to have good work ethics and motor. 

     
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    Agreed. Didn't see much in that video.

    He actually seemed to shy away from contact.

    We could have had Bailey or Williams.

    I don't get it sometimes with BB.

     

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    Liking what we're getting, a lot!

    Dobson is a perimeter threat who can stretch the field, we got an explosive edge-rusher to go next to Jones in Jamie, and we added CB depth in a solid player in Ryan, along with a hard-hitting, fast-flying SS in Harmon. Adrian Wilson is a great addition, but the guy will be around for 3 years, max.

    At this point, I see our needs going into day 3 as follows:

    Interior DL, LB depth (preferably a cover LB), and another WR. 

    Beyond that, the only place I could see a need would be at interior OL, but that's a lesser priority compared to the aforementioned positions. 

    We solidified the defensive backfield, we have edge-rushers, and our offense is largely set outside of another WR. 

    Here's highlights of Harmon.. I really like what I see. 

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4BKf-miCtM

     



    If I have to evaluate Harmon based on that video alone, then I have to say I don't like him.

     

    0:50 he missed a tackle, TD

    1:50 went to the air for an INT attempt. clearly misread the ball's trajectory. he got lucky the receiver did not catch it.

    Later, he bit on a cut by the receiver. He just got lucky that his fingers go to the receiver's shoelaces. Else, another TD given up.




     
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    Liking what we're getting, a lot!

    Dobson is a perimeter threat who can stretch the field, we got an explosive edge-rusher to go next to Jones in Jamie, and we added CB depth in a solid player in Ryan, along with a hard-hitting, fast-flying SS in Harmon. Adrian Wilson is a great addition, but the guy will be around for 3 years, max.

    At this point, I see our needs going into day 3 as follows:

    Interior DL, LB depth (preferably a cover LB), and another WR. 

    Beyond that, the only place I could see a need would be at interior OL, but that's a lesser priority compared to the aforementioned positions. 

    We solidified the defensive backfield, we have edge-rushers, and our offense is largely set outside of another WR. 

    Here's highlights of Harmon.. I really like what I see. 

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4BKf-miCtM

     



    We had that in T Wilson unless they are admitting he is a bust already which I hope they aren't

     

     



    I think Wilson is more a hybrid, roaming DB, who can play everywhere, but may not possess the hitting-ability to strictly play SS. I see more of a prototypical SS in Harmon.

     

     



    So Wilson becomes a part time player with Harmon because nether is taking a spot from McCourty at this point. If that's true they just spent a late 3rd (not bad value actually for a put time player) and a mid 2nd (horrible value for a part time player) for 3 player platoon at SS's (don't forget A. Wilson signing)? They won't be playing dime every down, they just signed Arrington to a large contract for a slot CB, they added another quality LB. Seems like somethins got to give, my guess is Gregory gone and Ebner taking Coles spot on ST.

     

     



    Gregory or Cole may very well be gone, but as you said, they have Adrian Wilson. That's great, and I love what he brings, but he'll be gone in 3 years.

     

    Tavon Wilson fills the 'big nickel' role, who can also play CB or SS (in the base defense) in a pinch, while Harmon is your starting SS next to McCourty.



    So then your mid 2nd round is a nickel player? That makes Wilson a pretty bad pick. Like I said because of where each were taken you have to question why use day 2 picks (one very early) on bot hse kids. I coud understand one or the other but having to use both is a head scratcher when you need more depth in other areas of need with more highly rated players

     
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    How is that even possible?  If he was targeted 92 times and caught only 57, would'nt he have a drop rate of around 40%?

    He does have alot of acrobatic catches, but didn't Brandon Lloyd too?

     



    common sense would tell you the rest were uncatchable balls from poor throws. 

     

     



    Hmmm. Does he bail out on a lot of balls?

     

     



    Nothing in his scouting report says he does, his weaknesses are lacking elite speed, small hands, not a great blocker and not as fluid as most(Expected since he's a taller WR). 

     

     

    Is supposed to have good work ethics and motor. 



    does make youonder. 40% of balls don't even get to his hands? That's pretty step, then agin his QB stunk and Dobson does have trouble getting separation at times so he might of had a number of balls battered away

     
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    Liking what we're getting, a lot!

    Dobson is a perimeter threat who can stretch the field, we got an explosive edge-rusher to go next to Jones in Jamie, and we added CB depth in a solid player in Ryan, along with a hard-hitting, fast-flying SS in Harmon. Adrian Wilson is a great addition, but the guy will be around for 3 years, max.

    At this point, I see our needs going into day 3 as follows:

    Interior DL, LB depth (preferably a cover LB), and another WR. 

    Beyond that, the only place I could see a need would be at interior OL, but that's a lesser priority compared to the aforementioned positions. 

    We solidified the defensive backfield, we have edge-rushers, and our offense is largely set outside of another WR. 

    Here's highlights of Harmon.. I really like what I see. 

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4BKf-miCtM

     



    If I have to evaluate Harmon based on that video alone, then I have to say I don't like him.

     

    0:50 he missed a tackle, TD

    1:50 went to the air for an INT attempt. clearly misread the ball's trajectory. he got lucky the receiver did not catch it.

    Later, he bit on a cut by the receiver. He just got lucky that his fingers go to the receiver's shoelaces. Else, another TD given up.

     



    Wow that's a bad video. Except for one big hit he had zero impact on the game and actually gave up a couple TDs. Hope there's better video out there because that's horrible

     



    I really liked what I saw. I suppose it comes down to perspective, and choosing to see what one wants to see.

     
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    Liking what we're getting, a lot!

    Dobson is a perimeter threat who can stretch the field, we got an explosive edge-rusher to go next to Jones in Jamie, and we added CB depth in a solid player in Ryan, along with a hard-hitting, fast-flying SS in Harmon. Adrian Wilson is a great addition, but the guy will be around for 3 years, max.

    At this point, I see our needs going into day 3 as follows:

    Interior DL, LB depth (preferably a cover LB), and another WR. 

    Beyond that, the only place I could see a need would be at interior OL, but that's a lesser priority compared to the aforementioned positions. 

    We solidified the defensive backfield, we have edge-rushers, and our offense is largely set outside of another WR. 

    Here's highlights of Harmon.. I really like what I see. 

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4BKf-miCtM

     



    We had that in T Wilson unless they are admitting he is a bust already which I hope they aren't

     

     



    I think Wilson is more a hybrid, roaming DB, who can play everywhere, but may not possess the hitting-ability to strictly play SS. I see more of a prototypical SS in Harmon.

     

     



    So Wilson becomes a part time player with Harmon because nether is taking a spot from McCourty at this point. If that's true they just spent a late 3rd (not bad value actually for a put time player) and a mid 2nd (horrible value for a part time player) for 3 player platoon at SS's (don't forget A. Wilson signing)? They won't be playing dime every down, they just signed Arrington to a large contract for a slot CB, they added another quality LB. Seems like somethins got to give, my guess is Gregory gone and Ebner taking Coles spot on ST.

     

     



    Gregory or Cole may very well be gone, but as you said, they have Adrian Wilson. That's great, and I love what he brings, but he'll be gone in 3 years.

     

    Tavon Wilson fills the 'big nickel' role, who can also play CB or SS (in the base defense) in a pinch, while Harmon is your starting SS next to McCourty.

     



    So then your mid 2nd round is a nickel player? That makes Wilson a pretty bad pick. Like I said because of where each were taken you have to question why use day 2 picks (one very early) on bot hse kids. I coud understand one or the other but having to use both is a head scratcher when you need more depth in other areas of need with more highly rated players

     



    I think you're entirely overvaluing the draft, and I think you're underestimating the importance of niche players in the NFL.

     
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    How is that even possible?  If he was targeted 92 times and caught only 57, would'nt he have a drop rate of around 40%?

    He does have alot of acrobatic catches, but didn't Brandon Lloyd too?

     



    common sense would tell you the rest were uncatchable balls from poor throws. 

     

     



    Hmmm. Does he bail out on a lot of balls?

     

     



    Nothing in his scouting report says he does, his weaknesses are lacking elite speed, small hands, not a great blocker and not as fluid as most(Expected since he's a taller WR). 

     

     

    Is supposed to have good work ethics and motor. 

     



    does make youonder. 40% of balls don't even get to his hands? That's pretty step, then agin his QB stunk and Dobson does have trouble getting separation at times so he might of had a number of balls battered away

     



    Bingo, the sad part is, most of his catches weren't catchable. He baiked his QB out on most. His 54 receptions were the team high...that's how bad his QB was. 

     
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    I think you're entirely overvaluing the draft, and I think you're underestimating the importance of niche players in the NFL.

     



    Considering every player (with rare exception) come through the draft how is it overvalued?

    Niche players are very important but starters to me are more important. A team full of niche players doesn't go very far without high level playmakers who are usually starters. Most considered the first 3 rounds as the best place to find starters as it becomes increasingly difficult to find starters past the 3rd. So if you are using day 1 or day 2 picks on niche players then they have to be some of the best in their niche. T. Wilson shows promise but a mid 2nd on a niche nickel S? A late 3rd for a hard hitting SS I like the value and even if he's only a sub it wouldn't be bad but he'd better give you James Sanders type of performance and just my opinion from the short video I'm not sure I can see that quite yet. Now if McCourty and T. Wilson are your main Ss and Harmon takes on a Sanders role then it makes sense but I think that is asking a lot right now given what we've seen so far

     
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    Bingo, the sad part is, most of his catches weren't catchable. He baiked his QB out on most. His 54 receptions were the team high...that's how bad his QB was. 

     



    I always side with production when it comes to WRs in the draft but I'll give Dobson a good chance. The reason I say I side with production because if it really was the QB that gives a good excuse that means we don't actually know how Dobson would perform with a real QB, also he wasn't really challanged with top level CB's too. Just don't want to see another Price type of situation. Though, I do like his leaping ability and body control. Should help him in the red zone which is an area of weakness for us but between the 20's I wish I could see him gain more separation given his abilities. Should be interesting to watch him in camp. Still hoping they bring in another WR too. Amendola, Edelman, Jones, Dobson, Bailey would have made for an exciting WR core. Oh well Wilson, Swope, and Rogers wouldn't be bad either and Kaufman would be an exciting choice in the 7th, now that would be one heck of a red zone core. Kaufman, Dobson, Gronk, Ballard, Hern/Amendola/Vereen that's a heck of a red zone spread

     
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    I always side with production when it comes to WRs in the draft but I'll give Dobson a good chance. The reason I say I side with production because if it really was the QB that gives a good excuse that means we don't actually know how Dobson would perform with a real QB, also he wasn't really challanged with top level CB's too. Just don't want to see another Price type of situation. Though, I do like his leaping ability and body control. Should help him in the red zone which is an area of weakness for us but between the 20's I wish I could see him gain more separation given his abilities. Should be interesting to watch him in camp. Still hoping they bring in another WR too. Amendola, Edelman, Jones, Dobson, Bailey would have made for an exciting WR core. Oh well Wilson, Swope, and Rogers wouldn't be bad either and Kaufman would be an exciting choice in the 7th, now that would be one heck of a red zone core. Kaufman, Dobson, Gronk, Ballard, Hern/Amendola/Vereen that's a heck of a red zone spread



    I think Dobson could be good.  Da'Rick Rogers was my favorite WR in this draft based on onfield play.  I hope we still pick him.

     
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    Re: 2ND ROUND

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    I got the Pats taking Tavon Wilson here



         Naw...they took Tavon with their 91st overall pick...Harmon.
     

     
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    Re: 2ND ROUND

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    Bingo, the sad part is, most of his catches weren't catchable. He baiked his QB out on most. His 54 receptions were the team high...that's how bad his QB was. 

     

     



    I always side with production when it comes to WRs in the draft but I'll give Dobson a good chance. The reason I say I side with production because if it really was the QB that gives a good excuse that means we don't actually know how Dobson would perform with a real QB, also he wasn't really challanged with top level CB's too. Just don't want to see another Price type of situation. Though, I do like his leaping ability and body control. Should help him in the red zone which is an area of weakness for us but between the 20's I wish I could see him gain more separation given his abilities. Should be interesting to watch him in camp. Still hoping they bring in another WR too. Amendola, Edelman, Jones, Dobson, Bailey would have made for an exciting WR core. Oh well Wilson, Swope, and Rogers wouldn't be bad either and Kaufman would be an exciting choice in the 7th, now that would be one heck of a red zone core. Kaufman, Dobson, Gronk, Ballard, Hern/Amendola/Vereen that's a heck of a red zone spread

     



    It's better than what the Pats marched out yesteryear....

     

    Welker, Lloyd, Edelman, Branch and Slater < Amendola, Dobson, Edelman, Jones and Slater.  Not every WR works with TB, you need to get him a smart, route savy, high motor WR or he won't work with him. Dobson is a good pick up, IMHO, I wouldn't be surprised if Troy Brown gave him the seal of approval. He'll do fine here. 

     
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