4th vs 7th Rd Picks During BB's Reign

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    4th vs 7th Rd Picks During BB's Reign

    There isn't a huge difference between 4th and 7th round picks under BB. Take a look below:

     

    4th Rd Picks

     

    2000     OL Greg Robinson-Randall     

    2001     OL Kenyatta Jones          

    2001  CB Brock Williams  

    2002   QB Rohan Davey        

    2002    DL Jarvis Green      

    2003  DL Dan Klecko       

    2003   CB Asante Samuel    

    2004  DB Dextex Reid      

    2005    DB James Sanders  

    2006 TE Garret Mills        

    2006 K Gostowski         

    2007 DL Kareem Brown   

    2008  CB Jonathan Whilhite  

    2009 OG Rich Ohrnberger  

    2010 TE  Hernandez      

    2011 none                       

    2012 none                       

     

    7th Rd Picks (of note)

    2000 RB Patrick Pass         

    2001 none                        

    2002 WR Daivd Givens      

    2003   DE/OLB Tulley Banta Cain  

    2004 none                          

    2005     QB Matt Cassel                          

    2006 DB Willie Andrews       

    2007 none                          

    2008 none                          

    2009 WR Eddleman            

    2010 DL Deaderick             

    2011 DB Malcolm Williams  

    2012 CB Alfonzo Dennard  

     
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    Re: 4th vs 7th Rd Picks During BB's Reign

    Not seeing a huge difference either really.

    Ghost is a kicker. A 4th round on a kicker is like spending a 1st on almost any other position so Ghost should be good.

    Hern is the 1 huge bright spot sticking out as an all-pro.

    A$ was a good CB esp for the 4th but it's not like other CB's in the league picked in the 4th aren't as viable as him without the massive paycheck

     

    Dennard I think has the potential to be as good as A$ was so that's a wash. Deadrick is a great sub player as was Green so that's a was. Edelman and TBC had provided as much as Sanders, mainly not starting caliber level but more then servicable with more then sub reps. Basically, with exception of Hern in reality there hasn't been a big difference

     
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    Re: 4th vs 7th Rd Picks During BB's Reign

    BB really likes seventh round picks.  He uses them to select guys with potential but with no present, Matt Cassel for example.  (hey, where's Cassel in this list?  He won 11 games in one season and then he scored the Pats a second rounder in the end) A seventh is like getting a leg up on the huge pool of undrafted free agents.

    The Patriots have two legs up on seventh rounders.  First, the Patriots have the NFL's strongest scouting system.  They regularly come up with overlooked small school players such as Logan Mankins. So, seventh rounders are at least silver-tinged in their hands, if not golden.

    Second, all 31 other teams hang around like vultures, waiting to scoop up any high draft choice that may fall from the Patriots' roster.  It goes with the territory of always having a winning season for 11 years straight, working on 12 years.  If the Patriots draft a guy with a fourth round pick and if he learns a bit under Professor Hoodie, the guy must have something on the ball.  If it's a seventh rounder maybe he drops to the practice squad.

     
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    Re: 4th vs 7th Rd Picks During BB's Reign

    calling Asante Samuel vs Dennard a wash is a joke! Also calling Jarvis Green vs Brandon Deadrick is another joke!!

     
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    Re: 4th vs 7th Rd Picks During BB's Reign

    Good catch, Paul. I forgot Cassel in the 7th round.

    He's not a great QB, but has lasted longer than most early round QB's.

    This comparison helps me better understand why BB made the trade.

     

    In response to Paul_K's comment:
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    BB really likes seventh round picks.  He uses them to select guys with potential but with no present, Matt Cassel for example.  (hey, where's Cassel in this list?  He won 11 games in one season and then he scored the Pats a second rounder in the end) A seventh is like getting a leg up on the huge pool of undrafted free agents.

    The Patriots have two legs up on seventh rounders.  First, the Patriots have the NFL's strongest scouting system.  They regularly come up with overlooked small school players such as Logan Mankins. So, seventh rounders are at least silver-tinged in their hands, if not golden.

    Second, all 31 other teams hang around like vultures, waiting to scoop up any high draft choice that may fall from the Patriots' roster.  It goes with the territory of always having a winning season for 11 years straight, working on 12 years.  If the Patriots draft a guy with a fourth round pick and if he learns a bit under Professor Hoodie, the guy must have something on the ball.  If it's a seventh rounder maybe he drops to the practice squad.

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    Re: 4th vs 7th Rd Picks During BB's Reign

    If you just compare rookie seasons between Dennard and Samuel, Dennard actually looks better than Samuel did. Who knows if Dennard will turn out as good, but he's off to a good start.

    In response to Quagmire3's comment:
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    calling Asante Samuel vs Dennard a wash is a joke! Also calling Jarvis Green vs Brandon Deadrick is another joke!!

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    Re: 4th vs 7th Rd Picks During BB's Reign

    Good analysis, PE.

    In response to PatsEng's comment:
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    Not seeing a huge difference either really.

    Ghost is a kicker. A 4th round on a kicker is like spending a 1st on almost any other position so Ghost should be good.

    Hern is the 1 huge bright spot sticking out as an all-pro.

    A$ was a good CB esp for the 4th but it's not like other CB's in the league picked in the 4th aren't as viable as him without the massive paycheck

     

    Dennard I think has the potential to be as good as A$ was so that's a wash. Deadrick is a great sub player as was Green so that's a was. Edelman and TBC had provided as much as Sanders, mainly not starting caliber level but more then servicable with more then sub reps. Basically, with exception of Hern in reality there hasn't been a big difference

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    Re: 4th vs 7th Rd Picks During BB's Reign

    The amount of quality picks is where riches lay, the draft is a crapshoot, you can't quantify human stupidity or acts of god.  

    A lot of "busts" were busts due to injury, wear and tear, while others of course for lack of talent in one or more areas.  

    But you take these guys late in the hopes they can learn, anyone expecting perfection from the draft is lying to themselves and people here often attribute lack of talent for poor execution or a learning curve.

    The Pats haven't been short on talent since Belichick's early years...

     
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